Zero Punctuation: Halo 3

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the halo franchise is just acouple of average games that practicly have the record of the most overrated game ever.

and is ridiculous try to compare halo 3 with half life 2, halo 3 barely have single player, it relies on the multiplayer for survive, like unreal tournament or quake, meanwhile half life 2 is all about singleplayer with a inmersive storyline.

also in the storyline of half life 2, you control a normal man that survives all those situations thanks to his suit, trying to get back a consumed earth where the humans are slowly exterminaded like in concentration camps.

the halo storyline is about a clichestic hero in literaly a shiny armor that practicly has no real name, trying to save the world from shiny aliens that looks like pulled out from a toy store, and other aliens that are practicly a zerg rip-off, like some kind of drugged US comic-esque hero or something.

if you think on it we can say that master chief have stuff that gordon freeman lacks and viceversa, like a face and a name in the case of MC and a voice in the case of Gordon

Okay, first of all, great review yahtzee.
Secondly, agreed with pretty much all of it, and i have played all Halo's, which to this day i still see as mediocre. And i would like to point out one thing, games are made of two parts, single and multiplayer. If the most important half is how yahtzee and i see it, single player of course, then the game does not deserve even a 9/10. Both parts must shine before it can be considered the best thing ever.

halo 1= 7/10

halo 2= 6/10

halo 3= 7.5/10.

9NineBreaker9:
Here's an even better idea for everything in the world...

Is it possible, that, perhaps, if Jesus was a pigmy and Moses was a turtle...that not everyone...likes...everything...?

GASP! SHOCK! THUNAGA!

Doods! It's a game! Not everyone will like it! That is why we have GENRES! The fact that he had a problem with something and that you like his problems means nothing more that what it says. I'll say it once, and I'll say it only once.

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Yahtzee did not like Halo 3 because he did not like it. He did not find the things that he likes, so he does not like it. If you found something you like, good for you. Just don't belittle the opinions of those who think differently than the mainstream.
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I applaud you, Mr. Yahtzee, for defying the mainstream and saying your opinion. We need more people like this >,<

no we dont need more pple defying the mainstream, take a look around and you will realise that actually more pple hate halo than like it.

I like just got halo 1 (i.e. the REALLY ancient original) and I hve to agree the series just keeps keeps on being inconsistent!

brenikai22:
I like just got halo 1 (i.e. the REALLY ancient original) and I hve to agree the series just keeps keeps on being inconsistent!

How is the series inconsistent?

The review lost all merit for me within the 1st 30 seconds "Part of the problem is i've never actually played a Halo game up until this one, maybe you need all the backstory to get the experience all the other reviewers were apparently having"... yes.. yes you do. The thing that separates this game from many other fps game sequels is the fact it has a proper continuing story that's carried from game to game. All the way through the review Yahtzee consistently tells us he just doesn't understand what's happening.. why it's horror head munchers at one point, then fighting aliens the next.. why he's asked to do certain things with no explanation. Had he actually played the previous games, known the story and got to grips with what was actually happening.. then he'd completely understand everything that was happening. I think he was completely thrown by the proper sequel-esqueness of the game. Playing only Halo 3 and trying to understand everything is like watching only LOTR: Return Of The King and wondering why you have no idea what's going on or why people are doing what they're doing.

One of the big attractions to Halo is the story... and I don't mean just what you get from the games.. it goes far beyond that. There's the 4 books and also the comic, and they're all tied together... the game, the books and the comics build the overall picture. The engrossing story is what makes people look past the gameplay and visual flaws and still enjoy what's happening. It's my thoughts that if you don't know the whole story (and I mean the books and comics included... hell even the 10 year viral marketing that's been going on as well), then you can't make a fair comment on whether it's good or bad.

Top notch reviews, this is the only one I've disagreed with.

DarkangelUK:
The review lost all merit for me within the 1st 30 seconds "Part of the problem is i've never actually played a Halo game up until this one, maybe you need all the backstory to get the experience all the other reviewers were apparently having"... yes.. yes you do. The thing that separates this game from many other fps game sequels is the fact it has a proper continuing story that's carried from game to game. All the way through the review Yahtzee consistently tells us he just doesn't understand what's happening.. why it's horror head munchers at one point, then fighting aliens the next.. why he's asked to do certain things with no explanation. Had he actually played the previous games, known the story and got to grips with what was actually happening.. then he'd completely understand everything that was happening. I think he was completely thrown by the proper sequel-esqueness of the game. Playing only Halo 3 and trying to understand everything is like watching only LOTR: Return Of The King and wondering why you have no idea what's going on or why people are doing what they're doing.

One of the big attractions to Halo is the story... and I don't mean just what you get from the games.. it goes far beyond that. There's the 4 books and also the comic, and they're all tied together... the game, the books and the comics build the overall picture. The engrossing story is what makes people look past the gameplay and visual flaws and still enjoy what's happening. It's my thoughts that if you don't know the whole story (and I mean the books and comics included... hell even the 10 year viral marketing that's been going on as well), then you can't make a fair comment on whether it's good or bad.

Top notch reviews, this is the only one I've disagreed with.

A sequel game, just like a movie or book, should at least give a basic explanation of the plot from the previous one. I've played Halo 3, and it is tempting to describe the beginning as akin to being dumped, naked, in the middle of the woods. And even if you have played the other games, the pace is so disjointed and frenetic that you barely understand what is happening. I also highly doubt all the reviewers who gave Halo 3 such a high score played the previous games. In fact, the second-lowest score reviewer has played all of them.
And Halo's story is probably one of its worst factors, being the generic, uninteresting Sci-Fi dross about aliens and armageddon, attempting to look smart by throwing religious words all over the place. Why so many people praise it and call it "epic" is beyond me.

figure09:
no we dont need more pple defying the mainstream, take a look around and you will realise that actually more pple hate halo than like it.

I'm no Halo fan, but even I must admit that Halo is the most popular - not to mention overrated - thing since Jesus Christ.
A Metacritic score of 94, legions of rabid fanboys and most of my school aren't defying the mainstream.

Also, am I the only one whose annoyed at how many times Halo 3's rather mediocre multiplayer is used as an excuse for its bad singleplayer, including;
"Still, judging a game like Halo 3 on the single-player campaign is like taking a movie to task for its opening credits. Halo 3's multiplayer is its reason for existence." - The Onion

J-Val:

A sequel game, just like a movie or book, should at least give a basic explanation of the plot from the previous one. I've played Halo 3, and it is tempting to describe the beginning as akin to being dumped, naked, in the middle of the woods. And even if you have played the other games, the pace is so disjointed and frenetic that you barely understand what is happening. I also highly doubt all the reviewers who gave Halo 3 such a high score played the previous games. In fact, the second-lowest score reviewer has played all of them.
And Halo's story is probably one of its worst factors, being the generic, uninteresting Sci-Fi dross about aliens and armageddon, attempting to look smart by throwing religious words all over the place. Why so many people praise it and call it "epic" is beyond me.

I'm trying to find an example of a movie or game that does actually explain the previous instalments to the viewer/player, and tbh I'm struggling. A perfect example is Half Life 2.. wake up on a train and away you go, made worse by a mute player who is told everything by the fellow characters in a manner that assumes you know everything that's happened already. The comic explains explains exactly why you're dumped in a forest at the very beginning, can't say there's many other games give an alternate medium to explain a story and give you something to tide you over until the game's released.

The praise of the story is probably beyond you because you don't know it.

HI my name is Daniel, and i saw the yathzee review of halo 3, and after that i saw this huge comments and i thought they maybe gonna be fans from the series(game) criticizing him... and that was i got.... hell and with ridicusly long replys, so i must comment to speak my word...

Im a fan from the halo series ... i am HUGE fan and i thought that halo is an awesome game, great graphics nice gameplay and good controls. but since life is not like i imagined it, there are people who doesnt think the way i do about games, music, and life... but thatīs ok i should ,i must, and i do respect others opinion, yathzee only did a review of a game, you dont have to get angry or get serious about the review because the guy mented to do it hilariously funny and thats what you got, i personally like the review because overall is GAME not LIFE a GAME !!!!!!!!.

on the other side i dont get why you hate halo 3 or any halo series ... i get it if you dont like it or its not gameplay tipe you like , or the story, whatever, but dont come to a computer to call halo 3 a shit just because you didnt like it (games are suppose to be fun .... not to make you angry)... other thing what the hell with the pc V.S console wars for FPS theme, again a game suppose to be enjoyable not became a console war

conclusion : i like yathzee review it was hilaiously awesome, he got an opinion i got mine so i dont get angry for what he said, i learn from it ... overrall its just a game its your choice if you want to enjoy it or not ... yathzee if you evere come to pass this reply and read it... i would like you to tell that you are doing a great job keep ot going. even do you didn like halo 3 i respect your opinion

HI my name is Daniel, and i saw the yathzee review of halo 3, and after that i saw this huge comments and i thought they maybe gonna be fans from the series(game) criticizing him... and that was i got.... hell and with ridicusly long replys, so i must comment to speak my word...

Im a fan from the halo series ... i am HUGE fan and i thought that halo is an awesome game, great graphics nice gameplay and good controls. but since life is not like i imagined it, there are people who doesnt think the way i do about games, music, and life... but thatīs ok i should ,i must, and i do respect others opinion, yathzee only did a review of a game, you dont have to get angry or get serious about the review because the guy mented to do it hilariously funny and thats what you got, i personally like the review because overall is GAME not LIFE a GAME !!!!!!!!.

on the other side i dont get why you hate halo 3 or any halo series ... i get it if you dont like it or its not gameplay tipe you like , or the story, whatever, but dont come to a computer to call halo 3 a shit just because you didnt like it (games are suppose to be fun .... not to make you angry)... other thing what the hell with the pc V.S console wars for FPS theme, again a game suppose to be enjoyable not became a console war

conclusion : i like yathzee review it was hilaiously awesome, he got an opinion i got mine so i dont get angry for what he said, i learn from it ... overrall its just a game its your choice if you want to enjoy it or not ... yathzee if you evere come to pass this reply and read it... i would like you to tell that you are doing a great job keep ot going. even do you didn like halo 3 i respect your opinion

HI my name is Daniel, and i saw the yathzee review of halo 3, and after that i saw this huge comments and i thought they maybe gonna be fans from the series(game) criticizing him... and that was i got.... hell and with ridicusly long replys, so i must comment to speak my word...

Im a fan from the halo series ... i am HUGE fan and i thought that halo is an awesome game, great graphics nice gameplay and good controls. but since life is not like i imagined it, there are people who doesnt think the way i do about games, music, and life... but thatīs ok i should ,i must, and i do respect others opinion, yathzee only did a review of a game, you dont have to get angry or get serious about the review because the guy mented to do it hilariously funny and thats what you got, i personally like the review because overall is GAME not LIFE a GAME !!!!!!!!.

on the other side i dont get why you hate halo 3 or any halo series ... i get it if you dont like it or its not gameplay tipe you like , or the story, whatever, but dont come to a computer to call halo 3 a shit just because you didnt like it (games are suppose to be fun .... not to make you angry)... other thing what the hell with the pc V.S console wars for FPS theme, again a game suppose to be enjoyable not became a console war

conclusion : i like yathzee review it was hilaiously awesome, he got an opinion i got mine so i dont get angry for what he said, i learn from it ... overrall its just a game its your choice if you want to enjoy it or not ... yathzee if you evere come to pass this reply and read it... i would like you to tell that you are doing a great job keep ot going. even do you didn like halo 3 i respect your opinion

Halo 3 is a decent FPS in a sea of Great FPS games, its not great and its not bad just decent. To me its just a rental for the fact that I only play it for SP not the MP component. For MP I prefer my PC, but if all you have for MP is the 360 then it fills that role in a pretty good way.

PettingZOOPONY:
Halo 3 is a decent FPS in a sea of Great FPS games, its not great and its not bad just decent. To me its just a rental for the fact that I only play it for SP not the MP component. For MP I prefer my PC, but if all you have for MP is the 360 then it fills that role in a pretty good way.

List ten of these quote "Great FPS games"!

First of all I'd like to say that personally I love the Halo series. I think it is fun and exciting and when playing the flood parts in the dark, it is a bit scary.

But that is not to say it is perfect. No game is perfect and no one should expect it to be.
To get the full experience of Halo 3 you need to know the storyline of the previouse games because Halo 3 is just tying up the loose ends. I do think it is the weakest of the games (not being that interested in online multiplayer myself) but it is not bad. It is, and Yatzee said, average. It probably is confusing if you just get dropped in at Halo 3 but then so are games like Half life 2. I played half life 2 before the original and I was completely lost. Halo 3 is not best on its own as it was not designed to be on its own.

For me I thought it was awesome. It was fun and funny and brilliant. But that is probably just my biase towards it because it is part of my most favourite games ever, the Halo Fanchise. I only started playing Halo because of watching red vs blue, so in a way I was not effected by the hype of the first two games, I loved them because I could understand them and play around with them. And the same is applible for Halo 3.

Halo 3 is not as good as its hype. That is a fact. But so what. That doesnt make it bad. A game does not need to be marked down for not meeting the media's bloated hype-machine. I didnt expect it to be and it wasnt. Also it is a console game. Dont judge it by PC standards because consoles have less options with controls and there fore cannot be judged the same. They are very different. Halo 3 is simple to use and that just makes it better. Even Ametures like me can pick it up and get to the end, and high skill people can have a challenge on legendary. Its for everyone.

You just need to judge it on its own merits. It may not be up to your standards and thats ok. You dont need to go round bashing people who like it. Halo 3 is fun, and that is all it needs to be. Its a game people, and as much as I love it, you dont need to take it so seriously.

Oh and Great review Yatzee, even if I did disagree with some points.

beddo:
List ten of these quote "Great FPS games"!

Off the top of my head...

Deus Ex
Bioshock
Halflife
The Orange Box
Call of Duty 4
Metroid Prime 3
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
Crysis
Battlefield 2
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter

God damn I fuckin love you Yahtzee(not in a gay way you cock mongler!)...
your reviews bring joy into my mean spirited-stone cold,spiritually void life :),
but I do have to point out something that(if you bother your hole to read this) may have you cursing my handsome hide...
EDIT!bloody hell! I should say I WAS going to make such a comment,a really astute,clever,witty,shitheaded comment,along the lines of this

"your line "Its hard to take things seriously when all the guns look like they were made by mattel" ignores the basic fact that Mattel actually manufactured the M16 rifle"

BUT...while doing my research on something that I had accepted most of my life as fact(and I am a confirmed gun nut who should know better) I discovered that this cherished fact of mine is in fact just a bloody urban fucking leg-end and in fact Mattel had FUCK ALL to do with the M-16,there goes my smarmy arsed know it all comment.!
Fuckin Snopes! http://www.snopes.com/military/m16.asp bastards!...
oh well,sorry Yahtzee, keep up the good work and feel free to kick me in the bollocks if we ever meet! :)
Schiz0phren1c(the original one...or two)

gozaimas:
jackolantern: right but Zero Punctuation has been, to my mind, about pointing out truths through perspicacious use of The Funny. There was still The Funny here but as it was less concerned with pointing out truth than as with bear-baiting it's all the less perspicacious for it.

That wouldn't be a problem but for the fact that the piece starts with Yahtzee calling all other game reviewers in the world 'cock eaters' (is that actually funny?), implying that he is the great, single rational mind in a critical community otherwise drunk on hype. Exaggeration to make a point is fine but it needs to be mostly true to properly work.

I thought it was funny and it did not give me the impression he was saying "I am the best", simply he was commenting on how so many reviewers have given perfect scores at a game which does not deserve them

Well often most reviewers are idiots. There are a LOT of games that get 'good' or 'great' reviews and then you buy the game and then it 'sucks bullocks' (citing Yahtzee here :P)

I must say I often wonder how much do game companies bribe reviewers to make them say that their game is great.

JamBob:

beddo:
List ten of these quote "Great FPS games"!

Off the top of my head...

Deus Ex
Bioshock
Halflife
The Orange Box
Call of Duty 4
Metroid Prime 3
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
Crysis
Battlefield 2
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter

LOL - I meant in the current climate, not in the history of games! Most of the ones you have mentioned would be barely mediocre by today's standards.

Deus Ex - An RPG/FPS hybrid; not truly in the same genre and far too old to be considered by today's standards.

Bioshock - Agreed, Fascinating, exciting, engaging and original. Better than Halo 3

Halflife - A great game but not so much by today's standards

The Orange Box - Half Life 2 to is not better than Halo 3 (see my comments from earlier post). Episode 1 was boring, couldn't be bothered to play more than an hour. Episode 2 was good but far from great, relate it back to my HL2 comments. Portal was great, but short. TF2, not a great deal of content, I found it do be rather dull.

Call of Duty 4 - Entertaining fps, great but difficult to compare; graphically weaker, on par with atmosphere but the plot was a touch cliché. Play it on hardened or veteran, spawning enemies show the weakness of enemy implementation and breaks the reality and tension. I mean seriously, how many people were in the TV studio!?! Play it on veteran, I'm surprised the US army get anywhere given how well armed the 'terrorists' were! Can't go two seconds without three grenades simultaneously appearing at you feet! Sniper bit was awesome.

Metroid Prime 3 - Not played it

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl - B.O.R.I.N.G the so called sprawling maps didn't manage to deceive the linearity. How can we put boundaries in, I know, radiation! Poor AI, especially from the NPC's. Graphically speaking it looked awful.

Crysis - Dream on, it's just far cry again. Found it boring, only played the demo though.

Battlefield 2 - Class based combat - meh, riddled with cheaters, uninspired levels, and poor vehicle implementation.

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter - I hope you're joking; not strictly an fps and so boring, bad combat, slow, just plain nause.

beddo:

CMadness:

Blind fanboyism for the win. Halo:CE was not innovative in the slightest. If you actually played games like Rise of the Triad, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Team Fortress Classic, and many others you will find out that everything in Halo had already been done. Saying Halo 3 is better in Half-Life 2 is just laughable and completely reeks of "Teh Halo Love".

Well I guess it's easy to label someone as a 'fanboy' because they challenge your ideas of thinking, it gives you an ill conceived reason to ignore them. Your response is stereotypical of l33t PC gamers who dismiss decent games through a bizarre form of gaming elitism.

Actually I did play, over my earlier years, the aforementioned games apart from Team Fortress Classic. They didn't really innovate anything, mostly just tried to improve on Wolfenstein and Doom, apart from a leap into true 3d I can't think of anything particularly memorable about them, save perhaps dual wielding and the somewhat peculiar and rather ineffective melee kick in Duke Nukem 3d. Perhaps you're tragic enough to believe that paying strippers in a game can be equated to 'innovation'.

I quote you as such;

"Halo:CE was not innovative in the slightest"

How then do you explain self-regenerating shields in some form or another in almost every FPS and in many action games since its inception in Halo?

Moreover, are you suggesting that the inclusion of Vehicles in Half-Life 2 has nothing to do with a knock on affect from Halo?

Well firstly, you need to know how to express yourself as what you wrote; "Halo 3 is better 'IN' Half-Life 2" clearly isn't what you meant. I quite clearly said in my opinion Halo 3 is better than Half-Life 2, I can re-iterate if you like; in my opinion Halo 3 is better than Half-Life 2; especially concerning online multi-player. If you wish to contradict me you could give an argument rather than try to destroy my spirit with your savage use of 'Teh Halo Love', lolzor; w00t, I can g33k speak too, Beddo ftw!

Still reeking of Halo fanboyism I see, regenerating health was done before, in fact TFC had passive regen on medics, vehicles? Tribes, Operation Flashpoint, Red Faction, the list goes on. Hell you say that Rise of the Triad wasn't innovative even though it was the first game to introduce weapon limits, same with some of the other games, yet you praise Halo for being innovative for the same reasons mentioned that you say the other games didn't innovate in. Yes I will contradict your opinion when you try to praise Halo for being something that it is not. Halo 3 is nothing more than an average shooter.

CMadness:

beddo:

CMadness:

Blind fanboyism for the win. Halo:CE was not innovative in the slightest. If you actually played games like Rise of the Triad, Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Team Fortress Classic, and many others you will find out that everything in Halo had already been done. Saying Halo 3 is better in Half-Life 2 is just laughable and completely reeks of "Teh Halo Love".

Well I guess it's easy to label someone as a 'fanboy' because they challenge your ideas of thinking, it gives you an ill conceived reason to ignore them. Your response is stereotypical of l33t PC gamers who dismiss decent games through a bizarre form of gaming elitism.

Actually I did play, over my earlier years, the aforementioned games apart from Team Fortress Classic. They didn't really innovate anything, mostly just tried to improve on Wolfenstein and Doom, apart from a leap into true 3d I can't think of anything particularly memorable about them, save perhaps dual wielding and the somewhat peculiar and rather ineffective melee kick in Duke Nukem 3d. Perhaps you're tragic enough to believe that paying strippers in a game can be equated to 'innovation'.

I quote you as such;

"Halo:CE was not innovative in the slightest"

How then do you explain self-regenerating shields in some form or another in almost every FPS and in many action games since its inception in Halo?

Moreover, are you suggesting that the inclusion of Vehicles in Half-Life 2 has nothing to do with a knock on affect from Halo?

Well firstly, you need to know how to express yourself as what you wrote; "Halo 3 is better 'IN' Half-Life 2" clearly isn't what you meant. I quite clearly said in my opinion Halo 3 is better than Half-Life 2, I can re-iterate if you like; in my opinion Halo 3 is better than Half-Life 2; especially concerning online multi-player. If you wish to contradict me you could give an argument rather than try to destroy my spirit with your savage use of 'Teh Halo Love', lolzor; w00t, I can g33k speak too, Beddo ftw!

Still reeking of Halo fanboyism I see, regenerating health was done before, in fact TFC had passive regen on medics, vehicles? Tribes, Operation Flashpoint, Red Faction, the list goes on. Hell you say that Rise of the Triad wasn't innovative even though it was the first game to introduce weapon limits, same with some of the other games, yet you praise Halo for being innovative for the same reasons mentioned that you say the other games didn't innovate in. Yes I will contradict your opinion when you try to praise Halo for being something that it is not. Halo 3 is nothing more than an average shooter.

Wolverine: Adamantium Rage had regenerating health back in 94, five years before Team Fortress. It's not necessarily an original feature that makes innovation; it's the effect of its integration on gameplay.

The weapon limits in Halo are so different to ROTT. In Halo you don't have a 'levelling up' of weapons where you get better ones as you progress. In Halo almost all weapons are available from the word go, almost effective in their own way, you choose which ones to use based on the scenario you're in, that's innovation.

I still quote you; "Halo:CE was not innovative in the slightest". Halo had innovative features; Seamless FPS Co-op play, shield regeneration, limited ability to carry weapons, no boss characters in an action FPS, effective melee hit, hot-keyed grenades. Some of the features may not be exclusive but their subtle implementation and effect when used together formed Halo's innovation.

Gamerankings; 93%, Metacritic; Halo 3 94 Critical Acclaim. Go look up the definition of average.

You may try to label me a fanboy but at least you're taking what I say seriously. In your reply you may choose to rely on the strength of what you say rather than falling back on pathetic stereotypes and insults to dismiss my argument. Although this is essentially pointless as neither one of us is going to agree with the other.

Yathzee definitely needs to play more multiplayer. This seems kind of unfair. If it starts to take up unreasonable amounts of time as I think it will as a multiplayer disinclined, just keep on doing the vlog. It's not worth it. :)))

beddo:
LOL - I meant in the current climate, not in the history of games! Most of the ones you have mentioned would be barely mediocre by today's standards.

8 out of the 10 games I mentioned are 'current gen'. The other two are so exceptional that they are still remarkable to this day.

Half-life's pacing and story telling has very rarely been matched since and certainly not by Halo 3. Deus Ex's non-linearity might never be matched again - the developer has stated that the attention to detail needed to produce the game nearly drove him to a nervous breakdown.

You really should give TF2 another try. In a clan game situation, the depth of the tactics involved really elevates it above its peers. It's easily the best team-based deathmatch game around at the moment.

A note concerning the "multiplayer is the reason for Halo 3's existence and Yahtzee is stupid for not a) recognizing this and b) caring about multiplayer in the first place" argument. Halo 3's marketing campaign focused solely on its wrapping up the Halo "saga," such as it is. The posters, TV spots and Gamestop ads didn't say "Go online and capture the flag." They said "Finish the fight." That being, one assumes, the fight against the Covenant, not other players on Xbox Live. There was something else about Master Chief being remembered in generations to come for...something heroic, I don't recall. Regardless, nowhere in Microsoft's marketing campaign did I see Halo 3 sold on anything but its plot. The problem is...there isn't much of one, even taking the previous games into account. Marathon's storyline was much better, not to mention considerably more esoteric. I have to agree with Yahtzee on this one. Halo 3 is a competent shooter, nothing more or less. If you want a better FPS, play Bioshock. If you want a better story, play Mass Effect. If you want better multiplayer, play Call of Duty 4. Halo 3 has its merits, it deserves some praise, just...not as much as it's getting. It's unusual to me that the series has carved out such a niche for itself that any criticism of its flaws is automatically considered pretentious and confrontational.

halo 3 is crap face it,
just milking a llready dry cow.

fanboy only. im ashamed i got the game. :(

thank god i got pacman and minesweeper.

as much as it was really funny and you did pick on a lot of true factors to halo 3, yes it should have had better lighting and maybe less bright colors but you really need back story on it to have fun i know way too many people who don't care for the game only cause they never played the first one or read the books. that always helps too the books are about more than the games they give you the backround story of the spartan programs and let you know that he's not the only one in mjolnir armor.

and Vaupelle its not being milked you idiot its being finished if you didn't notice by the comercials or by the end of the game that is if you finished it.

there's books :O

dear, god. alright, i admit the first one was good, but it just got stupidly more complicated and tedious from there. that was the only one where master chief didnt seem so arrogant, and maybe cos i didnt go on live at the time, i sortof avoided hating anyone who played as him, and they are kinda milking it, you'know, the same way nintendo does, with toys an stuff, CMON, ive seen action figures, plasma rifles(life size) and even a glowing saber... tragic... but its expected of a large company like microsoft; aside from nintendo, they are the masters of milk, milking it until every last fanboy is sick to death of it, and then bringing out something so ridiculously slowly that most fanboys will pre-order just under the weak promise of great improvements.

honestly, this video happened quite a while ago now, stop, and sepchill, learn how to edit posts, not double post.

beddo:

JamBob:

beddo:
List ten of these quote "Great FPS games"!

Off the top of my head...

Deus Ex
Bioshock
Halflife
The Orange Box
Call of Duty 4
Metroid Prime 3
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
Crysis
Battlefield 2
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter

LOL - I meant in the current climate, not in the history of games! Most of the ones you have mentioned would be barely mediocre by today's standards.

Call of Duty 4 - Entertaining fps, great but difficult to compare; graphically weaker,

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! what age are you 4?? Call of duty 4's graphics are incredible, halo 3's are as yahtzee said just a spew of colour. In fact if you woke up timred one morning and turned on halo 3 you could be forgiven for opening your xbox/pc disk tray and maker sure someone hasn't swapped in halo 2

I am so sorry about the next hundred posts, my PC has gone crazy! Please Ignor them and pretend it was one.

Why? Why must my Pc be so crap and how the hell did it manage this?

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Sorry, Pc is mad.

Why are you people still compairing Halo to Half-Life? They both have a H in there name, thats as far as it can go.

They are completley different games, but if I were to indeed go onto your terms then I would say one is good one is okay. Halo being the average game that it IS While half life claims the victory and does a jig as celebration.

Halo is not bad, but definatley not amazing.

Why are you people still compairing Halo to Half-Life? They both have a H in there name, thats as far as it can go.

They are completley different games, but if I were to indeed go onto your terms then I would say one is good one is okay. Halo being the average game that it IS While half life claims the victory and does a jig as celebration.

Halo is not bad, but definatley not amazing.

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