Zero Punctuation: Halo 3

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Easykill:
I dont own Bioshock. I played the demo and I played for like 15 minutes at a friend's house but it didnt really strike me as gods gift to gaming either. The story was cool but the fighting was kinda repetitive, it seems its impossible to die, and if Yahtzee's review of it is accurate then it isn't really original either because it rips System Shock off. It had faults, and in my opinion it was over-hyped. Halo 3 has some faults but its still a great game, just like Bioshock. So don't say Bioshock is a better game, just that you like it better.

I dunno Halo is more fun than BS but to short for the price and lacks depth compared to BS,BS however lacks depth of its "class" so I am much more disspointed with BS being a wankered down FPS RPG than I am of Halo missing 2-6 hours of gamepaly on the SP side.

One could say they both are so "bad" neither is "better" just "different" 0-o

Yahtzee says Bioshock is better. :p And to be fair,he's basically said he'll forgive gameplay issues for a good story,so it's not really hard to see why he'd think that.

november17th:
I'm one of the few americans who hasn't bought this poor excuse for a game.

Thank you for the laugh.

I didn't buy it because it wasn't the great thing for me, everyone has opinions and is free to express it, I spoke mine :)

symphonycometh:

Mursam:
I find that there are Halo fans, people who find it okay and people who have no idea what the big deal is about. I hink that to truly like Halo 3, you need to be in the first category an that really only comes with having played the first two games.
Halo 1's story was actually good and interesting, while Halo 2 and 3s were okay- however the Halo 3 storyline is not uncomprehensible if you had played the 1st two games as Yahtzee hadn't. Furthermore Halo 3, while probably not perfect, is certainly a lot more than run of the mill for the simple reason that sometimes i have noticed 1 000 000 people playing it at one time.
Halo 3 was overhyped but it's still a great game
I respect the opinions of those who don't like Halo 3, but i fail to respect it when they pass judgement on a storyline that required the previous two installments to understand (take the 3rd LOTR movie, who here thought they could've understood it if they hadn't seen the previous two movies?), and they completly dismiss the opinions of up to a million people who play it.

This works until a game with a better story/multi-player gets a lower score...because it's not Halo.

Sorry, but Shadows of the Colossus deserved at least a 9.6 . It was being 100% original, GREAT music, touching storyline (Without much talking.), and the gameplay was literally epic....

You're probably right, but that doesn't make Halo 3 any worse of a game.
In any case they're too completly separate games, you can't copare them.

symphonycometh:

And here comes the 8.5 solely because it wasn't Halo hyped. Sorry. Unsold.

It probably deserved more yes but that doesn't denigrate Halo

symphonycometh:

Reviewers got scared of backlash, obviously, and only Yahtzee has guts, apparently.

So of all the reviewers in the world that gave Halo 3 an average of 94.2, only Yahtzee was right about the game. Ultimately it comes down to opinion and whether you are a Halo fan, Yahtzee was not and i respect that, but don't completly dismiss the reviews of all those other reviewers- plenty who are arguably more qualified than Yahtzee just because they *might* have beenn affected by Halo hype

symphonycometh:

@Yahtzee:

Screw the narrow minded that attack you. I laughed when you were doing the Heavenly Sword demo (Which I have the actual game) with no offense, I don't see why the overhype has to blind so many people.

Maybe because it's a good game?

Mursam:
So of all the reviewers in the world that gave Halo 3 an average of 94.2, only Yahtzee was right about the game. Ultimately it comes down to opinion and whether you are a Halo fan, Yahtzee was not and i respect that, but don't completly dismiss the reviews of all those other reviewers- plenty who are arguably more qualified than Yahtzee just because they *might* have beenn affected by Halo hype

Giving a game 10/10 because a reviewer is a fanboy or afraid of backlash is a really poor excuse. Ofcourse reviews are subjective but a 10/10 signifies the best game available at the moment in all aspects regarding the genre and Halo 3 simply isnt that.

Antikristuseke:

Mursam:
So of all the reviewers in the world that gave Halo 3 an average of 94.2, only Yahtzee was right about the game. Ultimately it comes down to opinion and whether you are a Halo fan, Yahtzee was not and i respect that, but don't completly dismiss the reviews of all those other reviewers- plenty who are arguably more qualified than Yahtzee just because they *might* have beenn affected by Halo hype

Giving a game 10/10 because a reviewer is a fanboy or afraid of backlash is a really poor excuse. Ofcourse reviews are subjective but a 10/10 signifies the best game available at the moment in all aspects regarding the genre and Halo 3 simply isnt that.

Of course but Halo at the same time is more than run of the mill. The fact that Halo 3 has received an average of 93-94 shows that most people consider it a great game but not an excellent one. You can't completly ignore an entire community and average of reviews simply because of the possibility that teh reviewers might be biased. Some might but not all- reflected by the less than 100% average.

If you only look at the 360 then Halo 3 isnt run of the mill. If you look at all platforms it is nothing more than average at best.

Umm... I liked the Halo 3 campaign, but it was most enjoyable with a friend to play it with. Like on the second level of the game, we ended up killing all the human troops for fun. We jumped around levels yelling out "Inuyasha" and many more things. I guess I'm trying to say that Halo is most enjoyable all around with people to play with.

AI is still a bit on the stupid side still. I saw a soldier throw a frag grenade inside of the bubble shield and blow himself along with my friend to kingdom come. That was some funny stuff.

Antikristuseke:
If you only look at the 360 then Halo 3 isnt run of the mill. If you look at all platforms it is nothing more than average at best.

If you look at single player exclusively without any of it's multiplayer, co-op, map editor, film editor and replay value. It's multiplayer is arguably one of the best in any game on any console- shown by the simple fact that over 1 000 000 people have been known to play it in a single hour- you can't blame that sort of popularity on hype.

The multiplayer is nothing special and the map editor is simplistic at best. Now Co-op is a great feature and i have no idea why there hasnt been coop for a pc shooter after System Shock 2, at least that im aware of. The film editor can allso be a great thing to mess arround with, agreed. But where is the replay value?
While the multiplayer may be the best consoles have to offer its not the best multiplayer shooter experience whne compared to stuff on offer for the PC. Being popular like that only shows that Halo is after the lowest common denominator and doing well at that.

Antikristuseke:
The multiplayer is nothing special

Yeah if you ignore the millions of people who play it.
It doens't have any grand original features but it is extremly well polished and fun to play. Gametypes, weapons, gameplay style, equipment, maps and many others make the multiplayer a blast to play- and isn't that what we're after: fun?

Antikristuseke:
and the map editor is simplistic at best.

True but when has simple become bad. The simplicity of it means that anyone can pick it up and use it and have fun, and the more experienced can creat awesome new gametypes such as rocket race, pirates, pirate sharks, rocket baseball and that was all in the 1st week!

Antikristuseke:
Now Co-op is a great feature and i have no idea why there hasnt been coop for a pc shooter after System Shock 2, at least that im aware of. The film editor can allso be a great thing to mess arround with, agreed. But where is the replay value?

There isn't any if you ignore everything you just said.

Antikristuseke:

While the multiplayer may be the best consoles have to offer its not the best multiplayer shooter experience whne compared to stuff on offer for the PC.

Examples? In any case, what is *best* is arguable and a matter of opinion.

Antikristuseke:
Being popular like that only shows that Halo is after the lowest common denominator and doing well at that.

And the fact that it appeals to so many people shows us that those people like it well enough to play it over other games.

Mursam:

symphonycometh:

Mursam:
I find that there are Halo fans, people who find it okay and people who have no idea what the big deal is about. I hink that to truly like Halo 3, you need to be in the first category an that really only comes with having played the first two games.
Halo 1's story was actually good and interesting, while Halo 2 and 3s were okay- however the Halo 3 storyline is not uncomprehensible if you had played the 1st two games as Yahtzee hadn't. Furthermore Halo 3, while probably not perfect, is certainly a lot more than run of the mill for the simple reason that sometimes i have noticed 1 000 000 people playing it at one time.
Halo 3 was overhyped but it's still a great game
I respect the opinions of those who don't like Halo 3, but i fail to respect it when they pass judgement on a storyline that required the previous two installments to understand (take the 3rd LOTR movie, who here thought they could've understood it if they hadn't seen the previous two movies?), and they completly dismiss the opinions of up to a million people who play it.

This works until a game with a better story/multi-player gets a lower score...because it's not Halo.

Sorry, but Shadows of the Colossus deserved at least a 9.6 . It was being 100% original, GREAT music, touching storyline (Without much talking.), and the gameplay was literally epic....

You're probably right, but that doesn't make Halo 3 any worse of a game.
In any case they're too completly separate games, you can't copare them.

symphonycometh:

And here comes the 8.5 solely because it wasn't Halo hyped. Sorry. Unsold.

It probably deserved more yes but that doesn't denigrate Halo

symphonycometh:

Reviewers got scared of backlash, obviously, and only Yahtzee has guts, apparently.

So of all the reviewers in the world that gave Halo 3 an average of 94.2, only Yahtzee was right about the game. Ultimately it comes down to opinion and whether you are a Halo fan, Yahtzee was not and i respect that, but don't completly dismiss the reviews of all those other reviewers- plenty who are arguably more qualified than Yahtzee just because they *might* have beenn affected by Halo hype

symphonycometh:

@Yahtzee:

Screw the narrow minded that attack you. I laughed when you were doing the Heavenly Sword demo (Which I have the actual game) with no offense, I don't see why the overhype has to blind so many people.

Maybe because it's a good game?

Reviewers should not start off with someone liking the previous games for THAT game. In fact, several OTHER games that reviews like got crappy sequel scores for not doing anything new or some other annoying has bit. Funny that Halo 3 is an exception. Must I list the games?

symphonycometh:

Mursam:

symphonycometh:

Mursam:
I find that there are Halo fans, people who find it okay and people who have no idea what the big deal is about. I hink that to truly like Halo 3, you need to be in the first category an that really only comes with having played the first two games.
Halo 1's story was actually good and interesting, while Halo 2 and 3s were okay- however the Halo 3 storyline is not uncomprehensible if you had played the 1st two games as Yahtzee hadn't. Furthermore Halo 3, while probably not perfect, is certainly a lot more than run of the mill for the simple reason that sometimes i have noticed 1 000 000 people playing it at one time.
Halo 3 was overhyped but it's still a great game
I respect the opinions of those who don't like Halo 3, but i fail to respect it when they pass judgement on a storyline that required the previous two installments to understand (take the 3rd LOTR movie, who here thought they could've understood it if they hadn't seen the previous two movies?), and they completly dismiss the opinions of up to a million people who play it.

This works until a game with a better story/multi-player gets a lower score...because it's not Halo.

Sorry, but Shadows of the Colossus deserved at least a 9.6 . It was being 100% original, GREAT music, touching storyline (Without much talking.), and the gameplay was literally epic....

You're probably right, but that doesn't make Halo 3 any worse of a game.
In any case they're too completly separate games, you can't copare them.

symphonycometh:

And here comes the 8.5 solely because it wasn't Halo hyped. Sorry. Unsold.

It probably deserved more yes but that doesn't denigrate Halo

symphonycometh:

Reviewers got scared of backlash, obviously, and only Yahtzee has guts, apparently.

So of all the reviewers in the world that gave Halo 3 an average of 94.2, only Yahtzee was right about the game. Ultimately it comes down to opinion and whether you are a Halo fan, Yahtzee was not and i respect that, but don't completly dismiss the reviews of all those other reviewers- plenty who are arguably more qualified than Yahtzee just because they *might* have beenn affected by Halo hype

symphonycometh:

@Yahtzee:

Screw the narrow minded that attack you. I laughed when you were doing the Heavenly Sword demo (Which I have the actual game) with no offense, I don't see why the overhype has to blind so many people.

Maybe because it's a good game?

Reviewers should not start off with someone liking the previous games for THAT game.

Of course not, but at the same time they shouldn't mark a game down for a bad story when they hadn't played the previous games.

symphonycometh:
In fact, several OTHER games that reviews like got crappy sequel scores for not doing anything new or some other annoying has bit. Funny that Halo 3 is an exception.

Maybe because it adds new weapons, ehicles, gametypes, maps, forge, saved replays and a whole host of other new things?

Dear Yahtzee,

I love you. Don't get too excited, I am a dude. It is a man-crush.

Yours in gratitude,
Me.

I'm not sure why this argument is continuing.

Halo 3 fans: Haloez is teh bestzors there evarz was.
Pc fps fans: Umm no. It's not even new.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.
Halo 3 fans: Yes Huh.
Pc fps fans: Nu uh.

I think you get the picture. Now can we stop this mentally disturbed cycle of imbecility and just enjoy an entertaining pseudo review?

All the Serious Sam games have coop mode. And it's a lot of fun to play. :)

Mursam:
Yeah if you ignore the millions of people who play it.
It doens't have any grand original features but it is extremly well polished and fun to play. Gametypes, weapons, gameplay style, equipment, maps and many others make the multiplayer a blast to play- and isn't that what we're after: fun?

Being popular doesnt mean its the best experience out there for me.True but when has simple become bad. The simplicity of it means that anyone can pick it up and use it and have fun, and the more experienced can creat awesome new gametypes such as rocket race, pirates, pirate sharks, rocket baseball and that was all in the 1st week![/quote]I didnt say it was bad, but it isnt anything to drool over either, sure fun can be had but its simplicity limits its potential greatly

There isn't any if you ignore everything you just said.

Playing the not so great campaing over and over again with different people doesnt add replay value in my eyes. As for the video editor, not my bag of chips tbh.

Examples? In any case, what is *best* is arguable and a matter of opinion.

Exactly, it is all very subjective, as for examples i enjoyed Battlefield 2 a hell of a lot more.

And the fact that it appeals to so many people shows us that those people like it well enough to play it over other games.

As I said, Halo goes for the lowest common denominator and does well at that.

Merlynn:
All the Serious Sam games have coop mode. And it's a lot of fun to play. :)

Had no idea that Serious Sam games had coop, thanks for enlightening me.

Mursam:
Maybe because it adds new weapons, ehicles, gametypes, maps, forge, saved replays and a whole host of other new things?

Yeah, and DBZ games added more characters, attacks, game types, music and other crappy things that just covered the old with new frosting.

And DBZ deserves their scores! (Okay at best) Halo 3 doesn't. (One of the best shooters ever?)

And NO. I'm not a PC guy SaraPh. I just like to view games the way they should be viewed:

Not blind.

symphonycometh:

Mursam:
Maybe because it adds new weapons, ehicles, gametypes, maps, forge, saved replays and a whole host of other new things?

Yeah, and DBZ games added more characters, attacks, game types, music and other crappy things that just covered the old with new frosting.

And DBZ deserves their scores! (Okay at best) Halo 3 doesn't. (One of the best shooters ever?)

And NO. I'm not a PC guy SaraPh. I just like to view games the way they should be viewed:

Not blind.

I don't buy it. You're making a sweeping generalization using the evidence that you are 'not blind' as your argument. Yeah, that doesn't win a case in my book. In fact, I'd say that makes your statement somewhat ironic.

There's almost 300 posts! It's madness!

Merlynn:
There's almost 300 posts! It's madness!

No, no, it's Sparta...*COUGH* I mean The Escapist.

niktu:
Seems like this Yahtzee guy is one of those "it's cool to be contrarian" types. It's like he's walked into the last third of a movie and then blasts the plot and storyline. Yeah, that's a fair and balanced review.

And I had no idea there was actually a FPS console vs. PC war. That's hilarious! You people need to get out more.

First second or last part of Waynes World 2 you could tell the movie was nothing more than ass in a can. It's the same here. UT and Battlefield kicks the crap outa the red-headed stepchild Halo. Why MS even bothers porting this console crap to PC years after release with the above games doing the multiplay soooo much better is beyond me.

You're right, there is no war when PC shooters kick consoles in the ass everytime with the franchises mentioned above...

http://orangewins.ytmnd.com/
Thought I might post this.
There is a resistance to Halo's unnovation.

First off I feel completely bored by the single player of Halo 3, there is no story and the gameplay leaves alot to be desired:The control options were designed by morons:

Let's take a look at the the southpaw layout: Why in god's name is jump still on the A button do they seriously think people are going to be able to move and jump comfortably with jump located there?

The same goes with all of the other functionality bound to the right face buttons since its basically impossible to move and use any of those buttons and move at the same time without taking your left hand off the the controller and using it to manipulate the stick or the buttons.....which is just retarded.

The other layouts suffer from the same basic problem, though legacy seems to fair a bit better with the given control options it but using legacy southpaw gets weird again no matter what layout you pick.

The story so far (I just got passed the first bit of driving in the game.) is nonexistant I just know I have to kill everything that moves that is not the Arbiter or the other useless cannon fodder. I do not have any sense of epicness or dread, or anything at all for that matter so far and I can't even say that the gameplay is all that great for reasons I mentioned above. The fact that NPC's talk about "kill stealing" etc just breaks the atmosphere by being so goddamn corny.

I was able to play some of the Halo 3 beta and I was thoroughly unimpressed and doubt that things will have changed in the final build of the game.

You don't even need to bring up PC shooters when you want to talk about games that were and are infinetly superior to the Halo games, games like Resistance,The Darkness, and Black are simply more fun to play than this game is and none have super omgwtf stories although I will say that The Darkness did a pretty good job in terms of story. Goldeneye did more for console shooters than all three Halo games combined but of course these dumbass Halonoobs don't know what a good shooter actually is for a console. Oh and I'll let you in on a little secret:

The only real advantage pc shooters have is the control customization and the use of a mouse for aiming other than that they actually suck just as much as their console counterparts. Also the keyboard is truly worthless as a control interface PC devs just seem to feel the need to spam a bunch of functions onto the keyboard just because they can. (Ever wonder why you never see fighting games for PC barring a few obscure ports?) This is why I do enjoy Id's games they dispense with key spam bull.

All of that said at the very least Halo can actually call itself a game unlike the abortion that is Gears of War whose devs were even more idiotic than the Halo team since they completely gimped anyone who uses southpaw stick layout because of the way they abuse the A button. At least in Halo you can get by (barely) without cursing the controls unlike Gears of War. I wish people would stop spreading the lie that Halo did a great deal for console shooters when it just is not the case.

The 7.7 sounds about right to me.

Wright Brothers argument

I have to agree about the keyboard. While it allows for "so many more buttons, OMG!" it ends up only making the game more complicated. Crysis is a prime example: I'm in the MP beta, and you can see how utterly strained the game is to use all the keyspace: T is melee. T!!!! Ideally, you should be able to play a game just using WASD, E, maybe F, spacebar, CTRL, and the mouse. The lack of sensitivity and game-oriented ergonomics (how it feels when playing games) makes it kind of inferior. The mouse is always superior though.

I found the Yahtzee review pretty funny actually.
Well I've played the first Halo and it had MEDIOCRE written all over it. If you compare it to any other FPS you'll find that Halo is the most unnispiring one.

Alex Karls:

symphonycometh:

Mursam:
Maybe because it adds new weapons, ehicles, gametypes, maps, forge, saved replays and a whole host of other new things?

Yeah, and DBZ games added more characters, attacks, game types, music and other crappy things that just covered the old with new frosting.

And DBZ deserves their scores! (Okay at best) Halo 3 doesn't. (One of the best shooters ever?)

And NO. I'm not a PC guy SaraPh. I just like to view games the way they should be viewed:

Not blind.

I don't buy it. You're making a sweeping generalization using the evidence that you are 'not blind' as your argument. Yeah, that doesn't win a case in my book. In fact, I'd say that makes your statement somewhat ironic.

Am I allowed not to like "okay" games? I don't treat Halo any differently than I treat other games. I want something DIFFERENT. That's why my library is so small for games. Thousands of rehashes, only too few original titles. Halo isn't one of them. Are we trying to say I'm blind for that? DBZ, Killzone 2 (So far), Wii's party games, and the lots of them can go elsewhere. Tell me the key factorS that makes Halo 3 that much better than Bioshock and the rest of the shooters.

STALKER is the new benchmark - the bugs so patch the dam thing.

fact Killzone was one of the best FPS out there too, even muliplayer wasnt half assed and we had a good game or two on there :)

Thats right america, come get me.

Dry Ice:
STALKER is the new benchmark - the bugs so patch the dam thing.

fact Killzone was one of the best FPS out there too, even muliplayer wasnt half assed and we had a good game or two on there :)

Thats right america, come get me.

You.Just.Wrote.Your.Own.Death.Note.
*Waves you off.

Having finally had a chance to play Halo 3, I can definitively say that this review is spot on.

symphonycometh:

Dry Ice:
STALKER is the new benchmark - the bugs so patch the dam thing.

fact Killzone was one of the best FPS out there too, even muliplayer wasnt half assed and we had a good game or two on there :)

Thats right america, come get me.

You.Just.Wrote.Your.Own.Death.Note.
*Waves you off.

Ohh im sure i'll be qivering, but STALKER (if you minus the gremin bugs) is so fully of depth and the character AI is fantastic, and isnt a skitzo in switching between horror or action because they have placed the two so neatly togeather.

And killzone is sooo cool i love that game, you should play it some time, sure its not the best FPS ever (cough* Half Life 2 *cough) butit surely excels if pressed up against halo 2 and probably 3 :)

I am a HUGE fan of halo.
been playing it right from the start.
and i thoroughly enjoyed halo 3.
jumped up and down with joy when i got the disc in my hand just like your little animated characters.
joined up for this site specifically to comment on this piece.
to tell you (if you ever read this) that you are brilliant.
a genius.
a legend.
funniest guy out.
because as much as i love the game, which i still do, i can relate to every point you raise.
and i just wanted to say congrats for making one onf the funniest reviews i have ever seen.

These arguments amuse me greatly, people trying to argue each other down about what is considered a good game.

Let me break to down for you: Do you enjoy playing a game? If yes, it's a good game. Use reviews and other peoples thoughts to aid you in what games you try, but make up your own mind and accept that other people might not agree with you.

That said, I am a Halo fan, enjoyed this game greatly (and still am with friends in multiplayer) and overall think it's a great game. I also really enjoyed this review, it was highly amusing, even on points I don't agree with.

Sparcrypt:
These arguments amuse me greatly, people trying to argue each other down about what is considered a good game.

Let me break to down for you: Do you enjoy playing a game? If yes, it's a good game. Use reviews and other peoples thoughts to aid you in what games you try, but make up your own mind and accept that other people might not agree with you.

That said, I am a Halo fan, enjoyed this game greatly (and still am with friends in multiplayer) and overall think it's a great game. I also really enjoyed this review, it was highly amusing, even on points I don't agree with.

Exactly and its totally fucking stupid how reviewers keep bumming this game untill Master cheif (or gimp?) has had enough, apartently this is the last in the trilogy, so what crap can MS and Bungie hype the fuck out of now in an attempt to dominate the world?

I sure hope in development of what ever they have instore next they keep the CEO's and Bill 'OH I BUM MASTER CHEF' Gates keep their fucking pie holes shut. Any one remember the TIME interview (i wouldnt read such dross but a sectance is required from it) with Big boy Bill? "When the PS3 is released it will walk straight into Halo 3" one it was a year later then the PS3 was released (well aproximately) and also Halo 3 actually wasnt that bigger hit than halo 1 or 2 no matter how much the media bum this sort of crap to get more people tuned into their dross fest of retardedness.

Fuck this im off to buy Family Guy Season 6 and having fun while waiting for Croshaw to finish his under dog review, or on that line...

this is a hello from the old country Ben!

Just before i rebuke this entire post, let me say that when it comes to games there is a little thing called OPINION and that cannpt be disproved or argued against. Sometime you just like something.
Secondly i would like to say that i donnot think Halo 3 is the ebst game ever, nor lived up to the hype (but what could?)- however it is a great game if only becaus eof the multiplayer

shadow skill:
First off I feel completely bored by the single player of Halo 3, there is no story

Because being extracted, having the extraction blown, finding a downed pelican, rescuing the crew, defending a base entrance, evacuating survivors, arming a bomb and escaping the base in the 1st 2 levels is no story.

shadow skill:
and the gameplay leaves alot to be desired:The control options were designed by morons:

Let's take a look at the the southpaw layout: Why in god's name is jump still on the A button do they seriously think people are going to be able to move and jump comfortably with jump located there?

The same goes with all of the other functionality bound to the right face buttons since its basically impossible to move and use any of those buttons and move at the same time without taking your left hand off the the controller and using it to manipulate the stick or the buttons.....which is just retarded.

Or you are, because has it ever occured to you to instead of taking your thumb off the left analog stick to touch the buttons on the right side of teh controller, to instead move your thumb off the RIGHT analog stick (which controls direction facing not movement) so that it's able to touch the buttons on the RIGHT side?

shadow skill:

The other layouts suffer from the same basic problem, though legacy seems to fair a bit better with the given control options it but using legacy southpaw gets weird again no matter what layout you pick.

The story so far (I just got passed the first bit of driving in the game.)

Which is the 3rd level.

shadow skill:
is nonexistant I just know I have to kill everything that moves that is not the Arbiter or the other useless cannon fodder.

I suppose you just ignore the little voice in your head saying "Chief, find the Pelican, Chief get to Voi, Chief re arm the bomb

shadow skill:
I do not have any sense of epicness or dread, or anything at all for that matter so far

Not surprising since you jsut passed the 3RD level. Have you fought the scarab yet? What about the 2 scarabs? Climbed into the massive citadel yet? What about the pic airfight over the islands? What about teh descent into a flood hive? That's right you haven't played those levels yet-
New crazy idea- how about you FINISH a game before you pass judgement on it

shadow skill:
and I can't even say that the gameplay is all that great for reasons I mentioned above. The fact that NPC's talk about "kill stealing" etc just breaks the atmosphere by being so goddamn corny.

It dpeends on your personality really. If your the sort of person who likes to pick up a game and wants to have fun, then it actuallly becomes quite funny, especially when grunts start singing we are teh champions once you're dead. However if you're the person who prefers to analyse games on mood and atmosphere then you wont like it

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