Zero Punctuation: Super Paper Mario

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korosora:
... I don't understand.
Why JRPG's? Could you please explain yourself?

I'm actually somewhat outraged by your rather senseless bashing of a genre which provokes more thought than any other.

I think I speak for a lot in of western audiences with western taste that JRPG are horrible.(based on playing ff12). First of all JRPG are notoriously linear. Especially the FF series where you feel like you are only fighting to get to the next cut scene to advance the story. It seems in that such blockbuster cutscenes are expensive and time consuming to produce, so having several cutscenes for several path choices would be commercially prohibitive. This adds game breaking bad linear story telling and repetitive game play.

What you do via combat or dialogue has no semblance on story, so japanese JRPG fail narrative wise regulating you to spectator status rather than player. It like you are watching a Japanese anime series rather than playing......Playing a game, requires playing....

Spectator status wouldn't be so bad if the stories were masterpieces. Well from my experience (FF12) they aren't. Any objective literary judging would say that the stories are really badly written written for the lowest common denominator meaning geeky anime fanboys or dumb teens. Its like shit..

So JRPG are like watching Japanese anime, fiddling with a remote control to get the next cut scene, then eating shit by watching the story unfold.

Other than Xenosaga, which actually had a good enough story to justify it, I really can't think of a recent RPG that overtly felt like it was filler game play to advance story. Also, I assume Yahtzee (and a majority of posters on here) are unfamiliar with the "action RPG" sub-genre. A number of non-turn based RPGs:

The Valkyrie Profile series

The Tales of... series

the Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma trilogy

Odin Sphere

Otogi and Otogi 2

Dragon Force

Guardian Heroes

To say nothing of the myriad of isometric-perspective S/T RPGs

Also I hate how everyone says that the games look like anime as a pejorative. That's the type of artwork the country, as a whole, produces, so why does it come as a shock when it's in video games? Japan's animated movies look like it, their comic books look like it, so it stands to reason their video games would also look like it. It seems that cheeseburger inhaling yanks and tea sucking limeys share common ground when it comes to ignorance of JRPGs.

Am i the only one who noticed this? At 3:13, where he looks up the word "game" on the internet, you can see his other tab: Super Huge Tits - List of the best fr(ee websites?).

I lol'd biggie time

I never could see the appeal in this series. Too much story, uninteresting characters themed after the Mario baddies, which I could never understand, etc. Super Paper Mario annoyed me the most when I got to the guy who wanted me to literally spell out "please" over and over again just to tell me how to make some pipe come out. That and the moron who kept sending me off to find each member of his crew because one of them had something I was looking for and none of them had it. I stopped after finding the first one because the game pretty much kept dicking around with me.

Seeing you trash this crap was a nice change of pace from all of the others who praise it for how great it is, though I'm not sure why they would think this could hold a hat to anything in the traditional Mario series.

Yahtzee, your geography is spot-on. Oh, and cowboys rock. I don't care how late I am.

He mentioned Earthbound and Paper Mario as the only acceptions, but didn't mention Disgaea: Hour of Darkness ; ;

All other RPGs can suck roost cock though :)

Terramax:
He mentioned Earthbound and Paper Mario as the only acceptions, but didn't mention Disgaea: Hour of Darkness ; ;

Disgaea never came out for Nintendo, so that may be the reason. Either that or he doesn't like it, either.

Reaon:
Am i the only one who noticed this? At 3:13, where he looks up the word "game" on the internet, you can see his other tab: Super Huge Tits - List of the best fr(ee websites?).

I lol'd biggie time

OMG WTF HAHA

SUPER HUGE TITS LIST OF THE BEST FREE WEBSITES

OMG I AM CRYING WTIH LSUGHTER

I wonder, as the pictures he shows at the beggining of the review are from FFXII and Suikoden V, two of the least cliche'd JRPG's there are, I wonder if he even bothered playing them before slapping the pictures on the review.

i miss the good old reviews, now yahtzee pick nits and isn't as funny anymore

Super Paper Mario is teh fails compared to Paper Mario 1 and 2.

lmao about the guiness joke XD
i almost caught the gay once, but it went to my friend instead :P
i saw paper mario when my friend played it, it looked ok but not my kinda thing ^-^

I was originally surprised when I saw Yahtzee had reviewed this, and I didn't know what to expect. I'm glad he liked it, and I was even more glad to see he also like EarthBound and the Paper Mario series as a whole, which all of them happen to be my favorites, too!

Also, some people say that you didn't HAVE to run in a giant wheel for a quarter of an hour, that you could simply get the 1,000,000 Rubees at any time through the safe, but the thing is, how the fuck was Yahtzee supposed to know to do all that the first time going through? Not all of us rely on Game Guides and GameFAQs to get through games!

...I do, though.

Quest for Glory 1 had a similar "weigh down the button!" portion that went something like putting a small paper weight on the enter key while standing in front of a tree to build your climbing ability.

LeFuze:

korosora:
... I don't understand.
Why JRPG's? Could you please explain yourself?

I'm actually somewhat outraged by your rather senseless bashing of a genre which provokes more thought than any other.

I think I speak for a lot in of western audiences with western taste that JRPG are horrible.(based on playing ff12). First of all JRPG are notoriously linear. Especially the FF series where you feel like you are only fighting to get to the next cut scene to advance the story. It seems in that such blockbuster cutscenes are expensive and time consuming to produce, so having several cutscenes for several path choices would be commercially prohibitive. This adds game breaking bad linear story telling and repetitive game play.

What you do via combat or dialogue has no semblance on story, so japanese JRPG fail narrative wise regulating you to spectator status rather than player. It like you are watching a Japanese anime series rather than playing......Playing a game, requires playing....

Spectator status wouldn't be so bad if the stories were masterpieces. Well from my experience (FF12) they aren't. Any objective literary judging would say that the stories are really badly written written for the lowest common denominator meaning geeky anime fanboys or dumb teens. Its like shit..

So JRPG are like watching Japanese anime, fiddling with a remote control to get the next cut scene, then eating shit by watching the story unfold.

I agree with you for the most part.
but , as far as I know (only reading the wiki page of the FF games, and playing FFX) FFXII's story sucks in comparison to the other ones to the point where you might as well say girls are ugly when the only one you've ever saw was rosie-O donnell..

. I don't understand.
Why JRPG's? Could you please explain yourself?

I'm actually somewhat outraged by your rather senseless bashing of a genre which provokes more thought than any other.

Assuming by JRPGs you and yahtzee both mean games like Final Fantasy, Super paper mario and.......*looks through pile of games ok I can't find another one but ones that are basically Elder scrolls but from Japan and not Devil May Cry. Jrpg's in general are anime done wrong(and FFXII is a JRPG done wrong :) ). The stories (and by story I mean character development to. Not just the basic plot.) are nowhere near on par with anime and the fights have so little interactivity and look boring enough where watching an anime fight will be better. Plus animes are free if you're willing to see them in low quality on your CPU
And no, JRPGs do not provoke more thought than any other game type. RTS's provoke more thought, and normally don't make you pay attention to the mindless grinding you have to do to get strong. You send your civilians to the woods to get wood and you progressively get wood until there's no more trees left, your civilians die, or you move them. In a jrpg you have to manually walk around, wait for monsters to appear, and fight them in an extremely boring manner.

OH MY GOD I LIVE NEAR PERTH AMBOY!

what does he mean about princess peach taking her clothes off.........

haha, "thank you deviant art" loved that

where can i get girlish swordsman hiroshi from?

A game that causes you to find amusement while you play it, hehehe, that was funny.

A special thanks to Yahtzee for mentioning us canadians so thank you for including us in your insults to america

Has anyone else noticed that this video is busted at and after the 3:44 mark? Or is it just me?

I notice that

Saudi Arabia was JRPG
North Africa(Egypt in this case) was RTS plains
Turkey was Adventure game Valley
Aegean sea was the sea of fetch quest
and Iraq was Platformtopia

i really like Yahtzee's reviews but this one was meh. It's a shame that he wasn't super smart enough to find the password so that you didn't have to do all of that hamster wheel junk. I thought the game was very witty and charming and not so much in a retarded kiddy way; the jokes we're actually pretty funny especially when you get asked to save the world and you say no a few times lol. then again this was the first out of the paper mario series that i played so maybe the other ones are better.

I know that some people have said this (But since typically i never listen) theres a safe with all the rupees u need. though time wise it did take the same time as sitting holding right

Your geography is wrong. It's new zealand with all the sheep. In Awstraya it's more like desert- desert- kangaroo- Aboriginals- white people.

Since I'm over two years late for this review.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess some one told Yahtzee that you dont have to run around in the Hampster wheel....
Also, I agree this is the weakest of the series, and I cant wait until intelligent games makes a bloody sequel!

AH! YZ, i agree! when i first saw someone playing this i thought it was a demo or something, the graphics (the new ones) are effing retarded!

Yahtzee you supid Son of a bitch!You too!I thought you were supposed to be the smart one!Almost all of you have got it wrong!You were supposed to steal the 1,000,000 rupees from a safe you idiots!Gah!You have to pay some guys money to get clues as to how to get to said safe!YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE THE FUCKING HAMSTER WHEEL EXCEPT TO GET THE MONEY TO PAY THEM!...I don't know why I'm getting so upset right now, I should be used to people being mind numbingly stupid...Oh well, I suppose we all fuck up jack royal sometimes.But still this is major league dumbass behavior that I certainly wouldn't expect from you Yahtzee.Although to be honest I'm not sure why I'm writing this as I'm almost positive you've already had your tower melted because of the number of E-mails you must've received telling you about this.But still on the off chance that you haven't you've fucked up, check youtube for a walkthrough of this part of the game and you'll know why.

P.S.hmmm, this is quite a rant isn't it?Well I've already gone to the offort of typing it all so I don't care if I sound like an obnoxious asshole I'm posting it anyway.It's the wierdest thing though, it made me so mad that you fucked that part up that I made an account just to yell at you.Oh well.

P.P.S.As it stand the video itself has yet to have been edited so you should probably change it, or at least add anotations or something.

Reaon:
Am i the only one who noticed this? At 3:13, where he looks up the word "game" on the internet, you can see his other tab: Super Huge Tits - List of the best fr(ee websites?).

I lol'd biggie time

Just saw that. Epic win. ahahaha

I'd say it was very obvious after 40 seconds that you weren't meant to work for the gems. Ole Ben Croshaw missed the point on that one.

I still fail to see why people (mostly Sony and Microsoft junkies who think clicking a mouse to shoot someone is an accomplishment- I think it's about as boring as they'd think turn based style is...only fifty times more frustratings) seem to have some sort of bizarro phobia for anything with a well written plot just because the main characters hair is spiky, the main female is a healer with AWESOME TITS (or is just kind of average whatever), and everyone's eyes are three times bigger than normal.

I would say that most gamers that dislike JRPGs are just being general, but I know and hear so many people constantly bitching about "anime gay mo turn based hurr durr" that they seem to think there aren't even SINGLE diamonds in the rough they might enjoy.

Then again I am uncoordinated fuckwit with the primary console of a DS who only has the ability to play turn based RPGs/Strategy games (and vaguely casual games I guess) like Shin Megami Tensai and Super Robot Wars or else I will never beat a game ever (and I have tried to play others, I cannot do it, don't tell me to expand). But even so that doesn't change my point that if you actually bother to look at a genre more closely and see what can be offered you can find something even your nitpicky ass can like.

Then again Yahtzee is a smart man, he probably already all knows this. However I get the feeling the whole "Watch anime, pause DVD every five seconds" joke was just pandering to the people that actually do think JRPG is most craptastic genre ever and nothing good can come out of it. And those people all suck.

Also thank you the guy who's only experience was Final Fantasy TWELVE (which, like most post 9 Final Fantasy games, is a load of ass) for proving my point. Also you are a POOR POOR UNFORTUNATE SOUL. I suggest getting acquainted with Final Fantasy 6 and 4.

oh yahtzee, your so funny, I wasn't thick and litterally walked in on someone talking about there being a horde of rupees somewhere. Then went through a huge tedious amount of gathering items for about = time to just holding right on the Dpad and getting the rupees like that. Either way is tedious and stupid.

Did anyone notice the second tab he has open at 3:11? XD

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