Zero Punctuation: Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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Super Smash Bros is actually a pretty good game, but it's not something you want to play hours on end. It's one of those games you pick up, play, and put down after an hour. It's not something you should put your time into to unlock about damn near EVERYTHING. Yes, I've been a FANBOY of the whole series. But this fanboy actually has balls to say "Just cause I'm a fan of the series, doesn't mean I won't point out the things that suck ass." The fact you unlock all your characters hours into the damn game is tedious. And if your going to put in characters people want to recognize, then quit putting in crap like Wolf or Rob. (Rob actually turns out to be an ok fighter, while Wolf is cheap.)The fact that you play with a Wii remote would only make you cringe, but thank the lord you can use a gamecube controller.It just didn't appeal to you Yahtzee. But that doesn't mean you are wrong either. Games are something that very with user all the time. What might suck for one person, can be great for another. Like you said, you don't enjoy memorizing all those damn combos just to figure out how to kill someone, than just have your ass handed to you by some 4 year old pressing buttons randomly. Though with SS series, I thought they got rid of that problem. But still, good review, and good points.

yahtzee is as ever rigt in what he sez in this review; i especially like the bit where he sez about "nintendo doing too much whacking off of old franchises"
whats next? Super mario knitting?
give me a PROPER game like MGS4 nay day of the week

THANK YOU finally a reviewer that is not kissing this games ass more than halo3's. SSBB sucked balls. it was terible, and fuck all the fan boys that like it!

well thats the thing about unlocking its a way for ppl who have a lot time on their hands to waste it unlocking things once they get a fanboy-ism spark-which happened with the first SSB-they will want to play more and go buy more nintendo games But if your something like a zelda(still is nintendo) fan then your actually smart if u get the good ones like TLoZ OoT mainly because this means you can control for fan boy-ism to being a slash apart bad guy solve a puzzle repeat then 3rd time face a boss(sounds familiar right) and thats it its like a fighting game just mash repeat hard boss then again repeat but at least zelda has a few new mechanics and bosses each time and u have an entire world to explore so on a basic its like this
Zelda=sometimes same but still fun(also good storyline)
SSB=good at points but does get old playing alone and stuff(no storyline)
Well thats my wall of text and really its about SSB but i needed to compare it to Zelda

Remember, kids, anyone who likes anything you don't like is a fanboy!

I've decided to post a handy little guide for anyone who intends to watch/read a review.

BEHOLD! COPTER400'S REVIEW BROWSING FOR PROS!

So a much loved game of yours has been badly reviewed by someone on that raving psychopath, the Internet. Remember:

1. There is no need to argue.
2. This is a game. It's not like the reviewer stabbed your mother or anything.
3. The reviewer has most likely wrote the review after playing the game long enough to get a good feel for its content. Saying that he hadn't done something or other properly or thoroughly enough is just stupid.
4. Unless he has completely missed the point of the game (like, "SSBB is the worst FPS ever") or made a comment on something that did not appear/should not have been an issue in the game, do not say he is wrong.
5. This is an opinion. If people let the opinions of others get to them all the time, those poor Insane Clown Posse lads wouldn't have any business. And that would be terrible.

So there it is, folks! Read the guide over and over until your eyes dry out and fall out of your skull like a pair of wooden marbles. Stay safe.

Protip: Stupidity is stupid.

I've yet to see an intelligent argument criticizing Yahtzee's excellent review. My advice to those who wish to whine about Yahtzee's review - don't.

In other news, I found the review to be hilarious, and very true. I played SSBB at a friends house the other day - we had more fun with two nerf guns that were lying about then actually playing the game. That's kinda sad, if you think about it.

y8c616:
yahtzee is as ever rigt in what he sez in this review; i especially like the bit where he sez about "nintendo doing too much whacking off of old franchises"
whats next? Super mario knitting?
give me a PROPER game like MGS4 nay day of the week

Am I the only one who notices the hypocrisy of this statement?

hi all, newbie / newfag reporting to his first post!
i think what most of the guys in here forget (over 1100 posts, jesus tabdancing christ!) is that this is more comedy than actual professional game review (no offense, and no i dont think that sites like gametrailers or gamespot are doing a better job either since thats honestly asskissing) so whats so amusing about the zero punctuation series, in my opinion, is that it works like the darker, pissed off brother of gamespot who invites us into his basement to a mountain dew, and a newsflash how the world of gaming sucks. which is perfect entertainment! but not better gamereviewing than asskissing games.

so that thing aside, what the hell is the definition of a fanboy? from urban dictionary i can qoute the closest to what Yahtzee is referring to: "A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not." so, yes in his eyes people who like ssbb are fanboys/girls. because he thinks that the game sucks. but if i would say: 'i think portal sucks major balls!' that would make mr Croshaw a fanboy, since he cant accept that the game sucks, even if i defined in bad in my opinion. you may now go 'Yea okay, but only you think the game sucks! that doesn't make him a fanboy!' - BINGO, its a subjective matter wherever a game sucks or not. which makes the 'he is a fanboy!' only exist in your narrow human skulls. and furthermore it... why the hell do i argue with you?...

Boredom13:

y8c616:
yahtzee is as ever rigt in what he sez in this review; i especially like the bit where he sez about "nintendo doing too much whacking off of old franchises"
whats next? Super mario knitting?
give me a PROPER game like MGS4 nay day of the week

Am I the only one who notices the hypocrisy of this statement?

I keep thinking he must have wrote that whole post for giggles... certainly made me laugh.

pewbes:
hi all, newbie / newfag reporting to his first post!
i think what most of the guys in here forget (over 1100 posts, jesus tabdancing christ!) is that this is more comedy than actual professional game review (no offense, and no i dont think that sites like gametrailers or gamespot are doing a better job either since thats honestly asskissing) so whats so amusing about the zero punctuation series, in my opinion, is that it works like the darker, pissed off brother of gamespot who invites us into his basement to a mountain dew, and a newsflash how the world of gaming sucks. which is perfect entertainment! but not better gamereviewing than asskissing games.

so that thing aside, what the hell is the definition of a fanboy? from urban dictionary i can qoute the closest to what Yahtzee is referring to: "A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not." so, yes in his eyes people who like ssbb are fanboys/girls. because he thinks that the game sucks. but if i would say: 'i think portal sucks major balls!' that would make mr Croshaw a fanboy, since he cant accept that the game sucks, even if i defined in bad in my opinion. you may now go 'Yea okay, but only you think the game sucks! that doesn't make him a fanboy!' - BINGO, its a subjective matter wherever a game sucks or not. which makes the 'he is a fanboy!' only exist in your narrow human skulls. and furthermore it... why the hell do i argue with you?...

After a few minutes understanding what you're saying (sorry, but it's true), I'd have to say that I agree with you for the most part.

However, your definition of a fanboy is a bit off. Urban Dictionary, you said, defined a fanboy as "A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not." This, however, doesn't mean that fanboys only exist for games people think are bad. Rather, they exist for all games, bad or good. Every game has fanboys (with the exception of games based off reality TV. Maybe).

Thus, your argument that, if you hate Portal, people who don't are fanboys, is rendered obsolete. Fanboyism isn't subjective in the least. What IS subjective, yes, is the quality of a game, and a person's opinion of said game.

I watch ZP knowing that it's one man's opinion. Occasionally, I agree with him about things. Occasionally, I don't. It's not a review as such: it's an opinion piece.

While writing this post, I had a slight epiphany: all reviews are opinion pieces. The difference is that, for the most part, professional reviews (ie those in videogame magazines and the like) are done by people who enjoy the genre closest to that of the game they're reviewing, whereas Yahtzee (third time to type it correctly!) has to review games from all genres. Thus, his reviews may, on occasion, be negative, because he's reviewing a game-type he's none-too-fond of.

What all this boils down to is this: fanboyism isn't subjective, quality of game is; all reviews are opinion pieces; this thread has gone on too fscking long.

I love Brawl. And I think this review is funny s hell. So it's all good.

Soraen:
Protip: Stupidity is stupid.

I've yet to see an intelligent argument criticizing Yahtzee's excellent review. My advice to those who wish to whine about Yahtzee's review - don't.

In other news, I found the review to be hilarious, and very true. I played SSBB at a friends house the other day - we had more fun with two nerf guns that were lying about then actually playing the game. That's kinda sad, if you think about it.

That is kinda sad considering Brawl's a fun game. Maybe not as good as Melee was, but still good.
But I have no idea why so many people are bitching about this review. Just laugh it up and leave it alone.

A spot on review, despite what brawl fanboys might think. Other than over half the content being locked away in a cage on the dark of the moon at the end of adventure mode or endless hours of gameplay, my biggest problem with Brawl is that once you've mixed up the maps, characters and items enough, you basically just rehashing the same fight with different backgrounds and attacks that look different but rarely have a different effect.

Balmung7:
A spot on review, despite what brawl fanboys might think. Other than over half the content being locked away in a cage on the dark of the moon at the end of adventure mode or endless hours of gameplay, my biggest problem with Brawl is that once you've mixed up the maps, characters and items enough, you basically just rehashing the same fight with different backgrounds and attacks that look different but rarely have a different effect.

So that's like....every fighting game. What's your point?
Every fighting game has different maps, different characters, and I'm sure others have items too.
What is the point that you're trying to get across here?

I freakin hate fighting games because everyone i know hits random buttons and then they freakin own me.

I cracked up at "that guy" part. I must admit SSBB is very fun to play if you enjoy Nintendo games, but not enough for me to buy it =P.

just because you stink at the game doesn't mean it is bad

we all know that you sucked at fighting games and your bigger brother probably schooled you every time you played giving you an unwarranted hate of fighting games

we all know that you sucked at fighting games and your bigger brother probably schooled you every time you played giving you an unwarranted hate of fighting games

what is wrong with you people unlocking characters is fucking normal since when did it become a chore to unlock people in a game you practically get everybody unlocked in supspace emissary anyway unlocking snake is easy as shit you just play on his level 15 times which ifyou put it on one minute is fifteen minutes not an hour by one irthday party I only had three people to unlock and they were no big deal.

*Visits Gametraders Robina*

y8c616:
yahtzee is as ever rigt in what he sez in this review; i especially like the bit where he sez about "nintendo doing too much whacking off of old franchises"
whats next? Super mario knitting?
give me a PROPER game like MGS4 nay day of the week

Great Irony in this post with the MGS4 vid.

There we go, finally came along and registered ^^

Nice review, gonna buy the game tomorrow when it releases in Europe :D What i don't get however is why Yahtzee keeps ranting about "that guys" who play the game on their own and beat everyone else only to state that this doesn't apply to SSBB since it's a random button masher :-/

Right i looked at this and saw alot of people complain about the game, so i went out and bought it, wait i lied a rented it for 1.50 and as soon as i got to play it i turned it off cursed at my self for wasting a double cone ice cream (which is 1.50) and i will proberly be slagged off so go ahead, and while you do so please don't take offence if i don't care

here is another thing, when did they decide in the gaming industry for you to unlock stuff, i bought (rented) the game so i could be able to have access to every character, not to flaff about trying to unlock some one. but yet again that is now with all fighting games like DOA so on so forth

The one point I disagree with is when he claims the game is a button masher. While this is true of most fighting games, it is not of Super Smash Bros. Simply because the combos are to simple and the arenas are large.

When combos are large button sequences strung together it's possible to smash buttons and randomly pull out a big combo. In Super Smash Bros. each combo consists of one to two buttons and a single move.

In a normal fighting game there is very little space to fight, so every move is nearly a guaranteed hit. In Super Smash Bros. however there is enough space to easily avoid attacks. So if someone is button mashing, they are simply standing on one side of the screen using random attacks.

Littaly:
What i don't get however is why Yahtzee keeps ranting about "that guys" who play the game on their own and beat everyone else only to state that this doesn't apply to SSBB since it's a random button masher :-/

Don't worry, there's this little thing called humour. Perhaps you two should be introduced sometime?

I only come to the comments to see the hate letters that ensue any one of yahtzee's videos.
But this time, i looked at all the brawl praisers. IT IS NOT YOUR GOD. (that i know of)

The 4 month release delay had me optomistic. Maybe their doing major improvments and after seeing endless trailers, I looked forward to playing as solid snake.

May 6th 2008;
I played brawl
As stated in yahtzees review the two most overhyped characters in EVER are unlockables.
And i still think nintendo went wrong with Motion sensitive controls.
After this and the crap the monkeys at nintendo are letting in, its a surprise that they will let absolutley NO m rated game on the 'wii'.

- Written with Hatred. >=)

stratta one:
After this and the crap the monkeys at nintendo are letting in, its a surprise that they will let absolutley NO m rated game on the 'wii'.

And No More Heroes is rated what, exactly?

Brawl is, in my opinion, the best game I've ever played.

I will continue to obsess over it. I will play it for years and years on end, like I have Melee. Everything about it is simply tops. Yes, I am a fanboy. But for some reason, fanboys are put in a negative light in this review...

The only issue I had with this review is that it commented that anyone could easily win by mashing buttons, when in fact, Brawl is one of the only fighting games where this does not apply. If someone could beat you that way, you truly suck at this game. ^_^

Then again, the game was made for fanboys...so if you suck, you're probably "normal"...

Ugg how old is this thread. If I were Yahtzee I would shove a sword up you buns and throw you into a pool of sharks.

Great video as always!

Alright I'll start off by saying I may be a bit of a fan boy but not to the extreme that I think anything nintendo craps out is an instant gem, in all fairness some of the recent games are horrible which is why I bought a PS2. Anyway the point I bothered making an account here is this: In your review you refered to SSBB as a fighting game and while it revolves around fighting it is actually more of a party game for having fun and should not really be taken seriously. If you look at the combat it isn't like most fighting games where you punch each other until one dies or time runs out. SSBB differs in this in that you have to throw or hit people off the screen to kill them. The game is defiantly a party game and you can tell if you just look at the weapons and random items. You cant have a serious game where a tactic is to have your opponent trip on a banana peel. Even the animations are childish and not very serious. This is one of the few games that actually lived up to the hipe and more and if you don't feel that way its because you never bothered to explore the game. The story mode is not single player and can be played with a friend as well as most of the "single" player modes. The characters aren't obscure to gamers who have a phobia to jrpgs as you seem to have or have played previous installments. The most obscure character would have to be Pit and he appeared in 2 games and was forgotten until SSBM. You immediately started hating the game because you ran straight into the multiplayer which can be very pathetic if you never learned the basics of how to play. If you try button mashing you'll get mixed results and against most players you will lose quickly. I'm not saying the game is perfect with such flaws that nintendo never fixes like a lack of voice actors and a voomed out camera. The cpu difficulty it very good to the point where on the highest difficulty in a 2 vs 2 match the opponents can eliminate both of you in under 10 seconds. The game is almost endless and with online play you can always have a challenge. This is one of those games that only people with no lives at all and more luck then the whole of Ireland can ever do everything. Well maybe as I do feel the challenges have been dumbed down having for example 5 target tests where there used to be 25 each unigue to the character. Also some of the characters are just cheap knock off of others examples include fox/falco/wolf, ganondorf/captain falcon, mario/luigi and this annoys me to know end especially when the attacks have no originality ie wolfs final smash tank is red instead of blue. In short the game is fun and while it suffers from the grotesque lack of originality plaguing all games today, there is so much to do and unlock you can spend days locked in your room coming out only to eat and bandage your bleeding thumbs. I personally think this is a great game and with the prospect of downloadable content, insane difficulty settings, and endless multiplayer options it will have a place on peoples shelves for years to come. If you feel otherwise and want to whine go jump of the nearest skyscraper as this is my opinion and not fact.

stratta one:
I only come to the comments to see the hate letters that ensue any one of yahtzee's videos.
But this time, i looked at all the brawl praisers. IT IS NOT YOUR GOD. (that i know of)

The 4 month release delay had me optomistic. Maybe their doing major improvments and after seeing endless trailers, I looked forward to playing as solid snake.

May 6th 2008;
I played brawl
As stated in yahtzees review the two most overhyped characters in EVER are unlockables.
And i still think nintendo went wrong with Motion sensitive controls.
After this and the crap the monkeys at nintendo are letting in, its a surprise that they will let absolutley NO m rated game on the 'wii'.

- Written with Hatred. >=)

This is another problem I have. You are wrong totally in that last paragraph. The motion sensitive controls are an OPTION if you hate them then plug in a gcn controller like I do personally hating the wiimote felling it is not suited for a game like this, or use any one of the 4 controller options. Also there are m rated games on the wii ie No More Heros. While it is significantly less then other consoles don't say that there isn't when there is.

Shippiddge:
Brawl is, in my opinion, the best game I've ever played.

Play more games? ^_^

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