I knew from the start that Yahtzee was going to rip this game apart, so I didn't despise him for the things he said. In fact, I was just surprised he had even gotten a copy of the game, since it was only released in Japan and America at that point. Anyway, my take on it:

Professionals vs. button mashing? Don't care, I just play the game for what it is.

I could see the characters just fine, except on bigger stages like New Pork City or 75m.

I DO enjoy the spectacle of it, just seeing all my favorite Nintendo characters in one place is satisfying for me, especially King Dedede, Wario, Sonic, and Diddy Kong.

Unlockable characters... It's never really bothered me... Until Mario Kart Wii, that is. :|

It IS weird how Snake and Sonic are supposed to be "secret" characters, yet they're advertised on the back of the box.

I liked the Subspace Emissary, for the most part, though there were several things that didn't add up for me... But hey, this is the first game in the series to actually HAVE a story to it, so it's a start.

Also, which Billy Murray does Yahtzee mean? The American actor or British actor?

This review made me realize that I might be "thay guy", though when people DO come over and play with me, I'm not that competitive.

Actually, that DOES happen with Smash Bros. Brawl (see www.smashboards.com)

I like obscurity, actually. BTW, Marth is the main character of the first and third games in the Fire Emblem series. There's a new game released for the DS in Japan that stars Marth, too, though whether or not it will be released overseas remains to be seen.

Nice Mother 3 comment, BTW! The fan translation is almost done, I've heard.

Also, about the Mario Kart thing, notice that he says "in the next generation". I know what he means by this. How many people are buying Super Mario Kart or Mario Kart 64 these days?

I didn't defend the name Nintendo Wii. In fact, I outright flamed it! But I still loved this game.

Yahtzee has made several good points. I wish I could sympathize with him on this one (as I do in most of his reviews), but I have to say that it is the borderline childishness that makes it GOOD. I'm personally tired of bad fighting games involving a obsessive compulsive strategic requirement just to pick the right character. The casual play makes it easy to get into, but it also allows the game to be undeterminable up until the last second. Unless of course you are THAT GUY...

Which I am.

Mind you, I love Smash, and I'm pretty good at it too. I also loved this review too, inspite of what he said, becasue it was genuinely funny.
My I did have a problem or two with Yahtzees review.
I've rarely lost to button mashing, so either Yahtzee and his friends were just that bad or he was exaggerating.
My only problem with is was that he didn't have any frame of reference of the other Smash games.
I would have liked a comparison between Melee and Brawl.
Brawl had improved on Melee in many areas and in some area Melee is still better.
Also to me Brawl feels like it was rushed.
Many of the KO moves are quite random now. I've KOed my roommate several times with moves that shouldn't have. And than again, I've survived hits that should have wiped me out. It seems quite unbalanced in that area. And that's just one example.
Yahtzee doesn't know any of this, since he never played Melee; he can't compare what's good, what's bad, what's been improved, and what they screwed up.
That's my two cents is all.
Still a funny review.

i think brawl sucked melee was a beeter game wich i did love and hes right a bout button mashing my cosins have this game and played it for weeks b4 i even seen it and i won every time dont think its becuse i play wii alot i dont own one i just randomly flaled about pressing things and won i think it was stupid and pointless and nintendo are beeting a dead horse with a baseball bat you know what kind of game id play on wii one where you play a mississippi redneck that beets his wife and has sex with his mom that is a entertaining game

glory_scars:
i think brawl sucked melee was a beeter game wich i did love and hes right a bout button mashing my cosins have this game and played it for weeks b4 i even seen it and i won every time dont think its becuse i play wii alot i dont own one i just randomly flaled about pressing things and won i think it was stupid and pointless and nintendo are beeting a dead horse with a baseball bat you know what kind of game id play on wii one where you play a mississippi redneck that beets his wife and has sex with his mom that is a entertaining game

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All grammar corrections aside, this review was perfect. Not one thing which was said was untrue, it was an incredible review with blatantly hilarious humor. Great job!

thank you i know im not a strong speller but this is the internet and im not going to let something like not knowing something stop me .... look at bush not knowing how to run a country didnt stop him from doing it

glory_scars:
i think brawl sucked melee was a beeter game wich i did love and hes right a bout button mashing my cosins have this game and played it for weeks b4 i even seen it and i won every time dont think its becuse i play wii alot i dont own one i just randomly flaled about pressing things and won i think it was stupid and pointless and nintendo are beeting a dead horse with a baseball bat you know what kind of game id play on wii one where you play a mississippi redneck that beets his wife and has sex with his mom that is a entertaining game

How did the thought of a "." or a "," slip your mind? There's neither in that entire wall of text.

I really don't consider myself a grammar nazi, but that is unreasonable. There's not even an attempt being made!

Rekon that paying 30... maybe 40 quid was a bad choice for Brawl. I won't get that money back, and I honestly haven't played this game for more than 10 hours... probably way less than that. Too similar to Melee, and not worth having when all my mates are off at different uni's.

he does have a point the game is bad with out people to play aginst and i dont think people have ever winned in this by random button mashing and marth has his own game and i never played earth bound or any of those suckey old game like robs that dosent mean i hate them

demonjazz:
He does have a point, the game is bad without people to play against. I don't think people have ever won in this kind of game by random button mashing. Marth has his own game, I have never played Earth Bound or any of those suckey old game like Robs; that doesn't mean I hate them

Fixed it for you...thats some pretty poor grammar, please fix it ASAP.

fish food carl:
Can't somebody please respond to my grammar rant?

I could do, but you pretty much summed up what everyone was thinking about that post. Hey, at least I can understand it now.

fish food carl:
Can't somebody please respond to my grammar rant?

Ok, you have way too much free time.

i womt fix mine

The Thread That Wouldn't Die, an Uwe Boll film.

Sylocat:
The Thread That Wouldn't Die, an Uwe Boll film.

Indeed! Attack of the living dead threads

lol i am that guy and a fan boy twat, but I enjoy you reveiws cause unlike most people that say things are "bad" you do you homework and say what and why things are "bad".

( o yeah never try the online mode It lags horibly )

your humor is awsome and you should get laid with tons of wii girls.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't hit the bucket! (and I'm giving it life ironically!) Let's settle this once and for all!

YAHTZEE DOESN'T LIKE FIGHTING GAMES!!![/endofargument]

Thank you for your time.

Spot on review. I said the same thing about Marth with the addition of "is that a dude or a chic? :S" This game is terrible.

I actually don't see how this review is very negative.

why the fuck are people still discussing this is was months ago

Madaxeman101:
why the fuck are people still discussing this is was months ago

Yahtzee fanboys never miss an opportunity to mindlessly parrot every one of his views.

well done yahtzee, personally i was a big fan of ssbm, they ruined a few characters i like "Falco" and put a damn spam attack on him -.-;.. but i dont own a wii and i've only played the game like 5 times, so.. No Harm :D

I find this game to be horribly unbalanced as well. I mean come on how am I supposed to beat ROB if it instantly gets the power-up ball and SPAMS me every friggin time?!

Not going to make many people happy but well done Yahtzee for tell us how things truly are once again!

Marth... I think he's from Fire Emblem...or something...

Yay for cat ears! Very good review Yahtzee, many a LULZs happened.

there are actually reasons to have sonic and snake in the game, but they are really shitty ones.
snake= the first game in the metal gear series is metal gear. it was from another system that i didnt know shit about that was to the nes. later on, they stopped trusting nintendo and made a game called metal gear on the ps1. (wait, if they didnt trust them anymore, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY PUT HIM ON BRAWL?!?)
sonic= sonic started as a mascot for sega, they were in a "war" with nintendo. later, sega lost and they started making games for nintendo's systems.
so, im feeling that brawl STOLE snake. i dunno about sonic though... stupid nintendo shit! >:( the wii sucks!!!

sanyu95:
there are actually reasons to have sonic and snake in the game, but they are really shitty ones.
snake= the first game in the metal gear series is metal gear. it was from another system that i didnt know shit about that was to the nes. later on, they stopped trusting nintendo and made a game called metal gear on the ps1. (wait, if they didnt trust them anymore, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY PUT HIM ON BRAWL?!?)
sonic= sonic started as a mascot for sega, they were in a "war" with nintendo. later, sega lost and they started making games for nintendo's systems.
so, im feeling that brawl STOLE snake. i dunno about sonic though... stupid nintendo shit! >:( the wii sucks!!!

The first MG game for PS was Metal Gear Solid, not just Metal Gear. Nitpicky, but I'm kind of that way. Not exactly that they didn't *trust* Nintendo, it's just that Sony's system was riding the wave of the future with CDs while Nintendo was trumpeting the advantages of cartridge-based games. Seeing as PlayStation basically won the last two console generations, I'd say their choice was apt.

And anyway, I vaguely remember hearing that the MGS developers (including Kojima) were literally begging for Snake to be included. And if Snake really was "stolen", I imagine Konami would be suing Nintendo silly for copyright infringement and intellectual property theft.

I got the game just recently, I think it's awesome, and I play it frequently. However, I don't disagree with Yahtzee or anyone else on the forums. The adventure mode is way too damn long and repetitive, half of the game needs to be unlocked, and some characters can easily win a game by mashing random buttons.

I think it's perfectly OK to use characters like Snake and Sonic in Nintendo games. However, I do see two big problems with this.

One, as a big fan of Nintendo, I really hoped that the first big game with Sonic and Mario together would've been a platformer that would be the best in the existence of the world. But no, the only games so far with the two of them together are Mario + Sonic at the Olympic Games, which more or less was a crappy Mario Party ripoff, and Brawl, which, instead of them working together in a dream team for the ages, has Mario and Sonic beating eachother's skull in with Beam Swords. COME ON NINTENDO AND SEGA, WORK WITH US!

Two, I'm deeply afraid that because two non-Nintendo characters got into a Nintendo game, the floodgates have been opened wide. Who's next to join Nintendo? Mortal Kombat? Final Fantasy? Batman?

Alright here it goes....I love Super Smash Brothers Brawl for the Nintendo Wii. There I said it, it's out in the open so here is my take on Yahtzee's review. He is correct about single player sucking. When you play the single player from beginning to end all that is going through your mind is, "So this is what Sakurai (creator of Brawl) decided to do instead of putting more characters and stages in the game." I do have a problem with Yahtzee saying that even a button masher can beat as he called it "that guy". Maybe this is just in my experience with the game but when someone with no knowledge of the game tries to play, they are awful. No amount of button mashing in the world can make you good against a player who can dodge the moves like nobody's business and who knows all the ins and outs of the game or their character of choice. Yahtzee also mentioned the time it takes for you to unlock Snake and Sonic. This comment is very late so you probably know this by now, but all you have to do to unlock Snake is play 15 matches on Shadow Moses. 15 matches can be played in one night of playing with friends. Now Sonic might take you as long as Yahtzee mentioned, but who cares because you have Snake and he is the best in the game or the cheapest, but hey what is a couple of Snake Final Smashes to the face.

Oh yeah and I am not a Smash Bros. Brawl fanboy..................oh wait, yes I am :(