Zero Punctuation: Grand Theft Auto IV

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And I thought the Sixaxis was damn useful for some things i.e. Reloading, Helicopters and Vehicular aftertouching.

Alot of banned people.....wow

Good review.....GTA is just so old and overused.....

Im kinda bored with it.....Ill give this one a go just for grins

Great video.

So, what's next for GTA?

Hopefully it'll be out of the US this time with the gameplay and graphics (improved of course)of GTA IV and another fantastic story.

Here's Hoping.

On another note, so many people in this thread have been banned...

Takhisis:
Alot of banned people.....wow

Good review.....GTA is just so old and overused.....

Im kinda bored with it.....Ill give this one a go just for grins

Thats cos they just post lots of silly uneeded things, like F1R$T P0ST YAYA!!?!

I guess the next spot for GTA is Vice City as usual _

Plays2:
Since I only have a PS3 I will just get this game for that version, but at the cost of sore hands.

P.S: Good thing I play Rock Band, with that game I will never get to mess up with the Sixaxis ever again.

The sixaxis controls in GTA4 are optional and turned off by default. Yahtzee's remark on them was totally stupid and irrelevant. I guess he tried too hard with that one.

Well at least THIS TIME you can understand what Yathzee was saying.

Good review. 7/10 for sure.

Next up for GTA series? Simple! GTA 2142! :D :P

@ myopticalzeal.

Thank you very much for the transcript. This time, I don't know why, I really needed it. Is it just my imagination or is he getting faster and faster?

This really becomes a habit. I enjoyed this review again very much without knowing the game (except from interestingly boring ads)

Yes the ads need to GO.

Heh, I agree with this review, the mindless repetitive "Make your friends happy missions" made me feel like I was playing another MMORPG.

mspencer82:

OurGloriousLeader:
Also: A point he missed out was the complete lack of use for money.

Money has a lot of uses in Grand Theft Auto IV! You can buy clothes....and hotdogs...and more clothes...and hey, somebody has to pay for bowling.

Seriously though, you're right. Once you make your first 10 grand you're pretty much set for life in the GTA universe.

That's what I mean, it's more or less irrelevant when you become jacob's friend, because the discount on guns doesn't matter due to the ridiculous amount of cash. It's also silly because Niko main reasons for all the violence and immorality is his desire for cash - after the half million point you think he could stop and spend that finding his enemy!

I have one question left: Why is Jacob Bronowski mentioned? I am sorry, if that's a stupid question. I don't know his works.

Wow, I just noticed that this thread and every other one on Page 1 has an average of 200 posts, while the two on Super Smash Brothers have over thousand. If that doesn't illustrate fanboyism, nothing does.

PS: Please include transcripts with every review if it's not too much hassle. English is my second language and while I'm fluent at it the reviews go pretty dang fast and there's always a line or two in every review I can't make out.

i agree for the most part with yahtzee on this only difference is these problems he mentioned were dealbreakers for me. i tossed gta4 back to the store after my first weekend playing it. it just felt like the sims with crime and a couple sleezballs. i still can't understand how everyone aknowledges these problems but still gives the game a perfect review, even yahtzee says he still likes it and will keep playing it. i don't get it.

nightmare_gorilla:
i agree for the most part with yahtzee on this only difference is these problems he mentioned were dealbreakers for me. i tossed gta4 back to the store after my first weekend playing it. it just felt like the sims with crime and a couple sleezballs. i still can't understand how everyone aknowledges these problems but still gives the game a perfect review, even yahtzee says he still likes it and will keep playing it. i don't get it.

Obviously it isn't a game for everyone, to be honest I had no idea what the TV advertisement was trying to make it look like.

I'll probably be giving this game a miss. I've just never warmed up to the series

Gotta disagree with the comments about the PS3 triggers. They did the job just fine for me.

Gahars:
Great video.

So, what's next for GTA?

Hopefully it'll be out of the US this time with the gameplay and graphics (improved of course)of GTA IV and another fantastic story.

Here's Hoping.

A few people speculate a GTA set in Australia, which would be totally fucking sweet.

NezumiiroKitsune:
Oh yeah there all within 2 minutes. That explains it. I thought the admins had just found the old ban shotgun, and had some fun taking shots at passers by. Bravo, very astute mods/admins etc.

Arguably, that would be quite in keeping with the whole GTA theme.

Don't hate the mods, they're just trying to complete the quest!

I actually liked how GTAIV swayed towards realism but the problem is that they made the story line inconsistent with the way the game is played. For instance the games starts you off as a former Bosnian, Serbian, with a troubled past trying to mend his ways. The fact that people just starting the game won't be able to drive without losing Roman's car's hood, at least, or the fact that they'll steal his car or worse yet other peoples cars without too much of a consequence. Yeah it's a GTA game but I'd like a game were the police would hound you for every crime until your high proirity then you'd have to lay low for a while or be jailed. It might be hard to do that in a fun way and probably isn't appropriate for a GTA game but they should work on something like that for a new game series.

Yay, back to the fun reviews! ^_^
Good one too!

Gisgo Elim:
Yeah it's a GTA game but I'd like a game were the police would hound you for every crime until your high proirity then you'd have to lay low for a while or be jailed. It might be hard to do that in a fun way and probably isn't appropriate for a GTA game but they should work on something like that for a new game series.

I see where you're coming from but I think I'd find that to be considerably less fun to play. not exactly too difficult, it would just make for a less entertaining gaming experience. I worked in Hitman: Blood Money but if you applied that same mechanic to an open-world like GTA4, it'd really overcomplicate things.
On the other hand, Niko leaves a paper trail through the story missions that Louis Braille could follow in his sleep: signing up for a dating website and murdering a gay dude he meets on there; interviewing for a job at a law firm under his real name then killing his interviewer, and so on.

Woot, ect.

Good work if a little short.

Indigo_Dingo:
A few people speculate a GTA set in Australia, which would be totally fucking sweet.

Why would anyone want to use that wasteland that was barely good enough for a penal colony as the backdrop for a game about. . .oh. .. I see, that might work.

He DID it!
Great review!
Now hoping for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue or the latest DDR
;-D

I wonder if you'll review "The World Ends With You". Besides the BELTAN' and ZIPPARS style, it's bloody good game

Even though with some nitpicking and living with all of the games for several years, GTA 4 is still a recommendable game to anyone who enjoyed the series or ones that are just starting to play the series.

The GTA series to date have not been good crime simulators by any stretch of the imagination.

There goes the player, murdering their way through bystanders, raping* their way through the sex worker population without protection (and coming out of it in better health). Here comes the police. What is the absolute worst that can happen to the player? A ten second timeout, a bit of inventory stripping and teleportation to the front of the nearest police station or hospital?

No bail, no jail, no parole, no curfew, no injury, no illness.

Rockstar could have built on the ideas in Bully, making a virtual university of crime (or to use layman's terms, prison) populated with factions, corrupt guards, possible escape routes etc for players who fall foul of a virtual criminal justice system (which in turn presents the opportunity for some Phoenix Wright-style courtroom drama and tempering with evidence, witnesses and judicial officials).

Additionally, if the player is going to be caught in a hail of bullets then perhaps it might be a thought to implement a concept utterly unknown to the PlayStation generation of spoilt brats who need daddy (by which I mean gamefaqs) to play games for them - GAME OVER. A Police sniper hits you between the eyes, your vehicle explodes and the burning coffin lands in a deep body of water - player death, save file terminated.

Is this supposed to be a crime simulator for a mature audience, or a sandbox full of dolls that bleed and scream when children cut their fingers off?

Hopefully GTA will continue its trend of developing beyond interactive snuff and before long offer a genuinely intelligent and engaging experience.

*Forcing a prostitute to return her pay makes the intercourse a form of rape.

Been waiting for this one for a while :D

I didn't find the first few missions as onerous as described, but for the life of me I CANNOT use the handbrake at all.

Anyway, keep 'em coming.

Thank you very much Yahtzee for this reveiw! I was playing the game for a good solid... 3 hours and found the tutorials, um how can I put it long and annoying. Thank you for telling me that the IS infact a bright light at the end of the tunnel i'll guess i'll soldier on >.<

There goes the player, murdering their way through bystanders, raping* their way through the sex worker population without protection (and coming out of it in better health). Here comes the police. What is the absolute worst that can happen to the player? A ten second timeout, a bit of inventory stripping and teleportation to the front of the nearest police station or hospital?

He must have Denny Crane as his lawyer?

Aww, I have played both PS3 and 360 version, and I prefured the PS3. Mainly because the 360 version fucked me over on several occasions and the PS3 did not. It's very odd to explain.

Either way, nice review Yahtzee, enjoyable indeed.

I own a ps3, and the shoulder buttons are the bane of responsiveness. They still work tho.

Good review, although GTA never seemed fun to me. I gues its because I hate Burnout and GTA is like Burnout with guns, in my opinion.

lindsay40k:
The GTA series to date have not been good crime simulators by any stretch of the imagination.

There goes the player, murdering their way through bystanders, raping* their way through the sex worker population without protection (and coming out of it in better health). Here comes the police. What is the absolute worst that can happen to the player? A ten second timeout, a bit of inventory stripping and teleportation to the front of the nearest police station or hospital?

No bail, no jail, no parole, no curfew, no injury, no illness.

Rockstar could have built on the ideas in Bully, making a virtual university of crime (or to use layman's terms, prison) populated with factions, corrupt guards, possible escape routes etc for players who fall foul of a virtual criminal justice system (which in turn presents the opportunity for some Phoenix Wright-style courtroom drama and tempering with evidence, witnesses and judicial officials).

Additionally, if the player is going to be caught in a hail of bullets then perhaps it might be a thought to implement a concept utterly unknown to the PlayStation generation of spoilt brats who need daddy (by which I mean gamefaqs) to play games for them - GAME OVER. A Police sniper hits you between the eyes, your vehicle explodes and the burning coffin lands in a deep body of water - player death, save file terminated.

Is this supposed to be a crime simulator for a mature audience, or a sandbox full of dolls that bleed and scream when children cut their fingers off?

Hopefully GTA will continue its trend of developing beyond interactive snuff and before long offer a genuinely intelligent and engaging experience.

*Forcing a prostitute to return her pay makes the intercourse a form of rape.

I disagree. The theft afterwards has no bearing on the consensual nature of the sex act previous to the theft. It's still consensual as the two acts are separate, though stealing the money afterwards makes you an arsehole at the very least.

The Serbian National Anthem by "I don't bloody know" - even that had me howling :D

Cracking :D Crikey Bollocks Pip Pip!

Stop me, I can't stop quoting random things...

For starters: love your show. A friend pointed me out to some of your reviews and I found them greatly entertaining, even the ones for games I haven't (and won't ever) played were great.

It's good to see someone review this game without plastering "OMG perfect 10" all over it and not actually critiquing it. The game has flaws and no one seems to have the balls to say so. I still find that Saint's Row was a bit more fun (mostly because the gunplay was handled a lot better), personally.

Keep up the great work, and thanks for pissing off the fanboys. >D

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