Zero Punctuation: The World Ends With You

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Happy Birthday you charismatic envy of all gaming nerds!!

May your lady make you smile tonight!

SimpleReally:
As for the "you are stupid, let us help" factor, i think its more likely due to the fact that its a DS game intended for younger audiences.

Oh, no no NO. It is suited to a JAPANESE younger audience. The game is rated 12+ in Europe for language and violence. The language, I agree with. The violence... not so much. Though there are some rather adult situations.

Only castrated japanophiles get attracted by garbage games like this.

So, just to add another meaningless log to the ever burning internet fire. It's an alright game, the review covered the issues I had with it, and I was happy to have an RPG that didn't have people on potion duty. I really liked the combat system, it makes the touch screen a core element rather then a party trick.

I want to say something like, "I hope some of the issues get addressed in the next game of this type." However, the bitter thing inside me that use to be my soul knows better. I can think of two reasons they won't be. First, this game is one of the best games for the DS, and for some reason being on the top of Mt. Shitty makes developers think they don't need to improve things. Second, "hardcore" jrpg fans (like my roomies) hate the improvements, and I'm guessing this experiment will be a one-of.

I signed up just to make this defense post, although I'll try to keep the fanboyism down to a minimum.

First, a bit of background. I hate JRPGs. I would go so far as to say I dislike RPGs in general. I'm the type of person that believes they stopped making Final Fantasy games after VI, with the rest of that series existing only as an illusionary byproduct of a bad hangover. I balk at MMOs, which I like to think of as RPGs without a plot (or anything but grinding for that matter). So when I say I've put 60 hours into this game, I want you to understand it isn't out of blind devotion to a genre or fanatical loyalty to a company.

The story is interesting, if presented like you are reading a book. I personally didn't mind it, Yahtzee did. Different strokes, as the saying goes. There are decent plot twists involved, so it isn't like you know the ending before it happens. I found the characters to be likable; without giving too much away some scenes between your antisocial, disdainful protagonist and his know-it-all, asshat of a partner were worth some laughs. The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

I had no real problems with the combat, either. Are some pins useless? Yes, I'd say more then half. But there ARE 200+ of them, so you have a good variety to work with. The touch recognition is wonky at times, but I would switch out the pins I couldn't get the hang of using. (There is something to be said about making excuses for a game, but there you are.)

Once again, the difference between Yahtzee and myself is clear, as I adopted to the dual screen controls very quickly. The secret lies in the realization of your partner's abilities, i.e., they only do one damn thing no matter what you press. With this in mind, you are free to mash buttons (normally left or right on the d-pad, depending on direction) and focus your attention solely on the bottom, where actual concentration is required. That's one of my largest complaints: the top screen doesn't have ENOUGH action, although with the level of difficulty people seem to be having perhaps I'm just some kind of mutant who can focus each eye independently or something.

The soundtrack is killer. I mean seriously, I can't remember the last time I went and bought a game soundtrack. Mostly because I've NEVER done that. They overuse one or two songs, especially during cutscenes, but for the most part it's perfect. Easily the best sounding game on the DS.

All and all, it's the best I've played on the DS in a long time. It gets a shiny, gilded pedestal in my heart along side Mario Kart DS, where the two can have an eternal struggle for my love. Give it a try before you decide, as this is a game you need to play before you can pass judgment.

Spongeman25:

A Username Not In Use:
Yahtzee I'm disappointed, I guessed you would use REM but than dismissed it when I remembered you had used it before. Poor, very poor.

What the hell is REM? That's a stage in sleep if I remember. REM sleep...

Yes well, moving on

I really wonder what he would think about Persona 3 FES.

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The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

Dibs on rainbow.

Ambition:

TheDarkPrince:

Ambition:

I say "Meh".

Unless Escapist is handing him these games to review, he needs to just stop reviewing them and do something he's not already going to dislike in it's entirety - which leads to, in my opinion, a less than stellar job (go watch SimCities review to get what I mean.)

What we know about Yahtzee:

1.) He hates JRPGS
2.) He hates People.
3.) He hates JRPGS.

It's called a genre for a reason, and I haven't seen anything change in it since Chronotrigger (the last good one).

Yahtzee, next week, just pre-review every JRPG to come out in the next ten years and tell us it's really going to suck - you won't be telling us anything new, and ten years from now you can say 'I told you so'.

It's not called a genre though, the genre in this case would be RPG.

Saying it's a genre would be like saying "Action Movies By Steven Speilberg" is a genre (or quake maps for that matter if you're going to complain that there are enough JRPGs for it to be a legitimate genre, I guarantee there are more Quake maps than JRPGs out there).

I always love reading people telling Yahtzee what to do. He has pulled in however many million viewers and single handedly popularised this site, but he clearly needs advice from someone as knowledgeable and important as you.

He puts out a consumer product, I'm a consumer saying the product sucks - there is no more important feedback, fanboy.

So even though your feedback cannot be complied with unless yahtzee were to contradict many, many others feedback who are just as whiny and angry as you, you still believe it to be that important? You must be delusional to the point of insanity. Why I'd bet that if anyone disagrees with your one true opinion then you angrily paint them as some sort of raving fanboy. Your feedback is as meaningless (or meaningful) as anyone else who desperately begs him to review something or not review something, but yours was so pompous and self important that my supernatural mental prowess allowed me to deduce that you are, in fact, a cunt.

But then, you probably already knew that I had hidden my criticism deep within a suggestion - cause your supernatural mental prowess clearly would miss nothing like that.

Why thank you! I DO have supernatural mental prowess!

Also, to characterize Oblivion and World of Warcraft as the same type of game would be folly.

I really think you should stay away from examples, you haven't quite got the hang of them yet.
Why would it be folly exactly to class WoW and Oblivion in the same category? They have an awful lot in common. Come now, with all your wit and importance, you don't even take the time to spell out your point for a poor witless fanboy like me? I feel hurt.

Just as you wouldn't put Billy Madison in the same area of the movie store as a Patton Oswalt stand-up.

See what I mean about examples? Stick with slagging people off, you're not very good at that either but it's harder to fuck up. I think you're trying to reinforce the idea that my statement is ridiculous by making an exaggeration. But one of these is a movie and one is a stand up routine so it's hyperbole at the very least. Since they're both shit, they would both go in the bargain bin. Then they'd be in the same part of the store!!!!

Each of those are a different genre. The word genre is as small or large as a person wants to make it - Yahtzee clearly makes a distinction between western and JRPGS, which is precisely what I'm commenting on.

And I'm saying that the field of JRPGs is too narrow to really be called a genre like in my original post. It was more of an open discussion point, and whether Yahtzee or anyone else calls it that, I still disagree.

Now please, go find some other internet fad to defend witlessly.

Man, if calling you a retard is defending an internet fad, a lot of people must defend internet fads every day!

And by that I mean that you get called a retard a lot.

Because you are one.

You're so much of a retard that I had to explain it so that you could understand.

i thought it was brilliant.....i see his point though!!

YoungZer0:
I really wonder what he would think about Persona 3 FES.

Yahtzee might like some of the SMT games, but he would not like Persona 3 FES, too much grind, turn based battles and it is VERY japanese. He might like Nocturne or DDS, but probably not Persona 3.

Have a fair (belated) Birthday, Yahtzee!

Also, I sympathize, as JPRG games are uneventful rail games, but it can't be helped during the drought.

Hey folks. I've been lurking for weeks, and this is my first post! I love all of Yahtzees vids and watch them again and again. Even when I don't agree with him (which is not often).

Anyway, hilarious review as always. I shall give JRPGs a wide berth. Unless I can find a free demo.

Anyway, is Haze out in Australia (not that it stops Yahtzee) Because I have it on good authority that it needs a sound thrashing ZP style.

PS Happy Birthday Dude.

I love Yatzee he seem's like the only critic that has any Balls these day I didn't even mind when he Bashed SSBB

otterbeans:

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The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

Dibs on rainbow.

Exactly what I mean.

"No, no, no, I call pink." "(Great, now they are fighting over colors!)"
"His blue strikes me more of a...black and blue." "What do I look like, a bruise?"
"You're like a bruise on the tomato of my heart."

wtf?

PedroSteckecilo:

YoungZer0:
I really wonder what he would think about Persona 3 FES.

Yahtzee might like some of the SMT games, but he would not like Persona 3 FES, too much grind, turn based battles and it is VERY japanese. He might like Nocturne or DDS, but probably not Persona 3.

I think Persona 3 FES has many of the points that are missing in "The world ends with you" (Stupid name). Turn based combat is okay as long as it goes fast. As far as i know every SMT Game had turn based combat and DDS/Nocturne are damn hard. You played Persona 3 FES? Just curious.

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otterbeans:

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The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

Dibs on rainbow.

Exactly what I mean.

"No, no, no, I call pink." "(Great, now they are fighting over colors!)"
"His blue strikes me more of a...black and blue." "What do I look like, a bruise?"
"You're like a bruise on the tomato of my heart."

"Shut up and walk dear."

I've never really been that into JRPGs, it's the the gameplay allways seems a little boring to me. I also don't have much of a taste for the story in JRPGs and i prefer games like games like Kotor or Mass Effect for their robust storytelling.

I wish they would release Persona 3 for PC so i can see why that is so great(i don't wanna buy a PS2).

twilight_dweller:

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otterbeans:

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The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

Dibs on rainbow.

Exactly what I mean.

"No, no, no, I call pink." "(Great, now they are fighting over colors!)"
"His blue strikes me more of a...black and blue." "What do I look like, a bruise?"
"You're like a bruise on the tomato of my heart."

"Shut up and walk dear."

"Must supress... Emo Urges..."

twilight_dweller:

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otterbeans:

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The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.

Dibs on rainbow.

Exactly what I mean.

"No, no, no, I call pink." "(Great, now they are fighting over colors!)"
"His blue strikes me more of a...black and blue." "What do I look like, a bruise?"
"You're like a bruise on the tomato of my heart."

"Shut up and walk dear."

"Who the hell approved that costume? Dude's got a ram on his crotch!"

For anyone who has NO idea what we are talking about, these are all lines from the game.

"Is it true steroids shrink your... Nevermind"

miller483:
I find these topics funny. Had Yahtzee said, "I think TWEWY is a solid RPG. Everyone with a DS should pick it up." or something to that extent, everyone would agree.

Gotta love Yahtzee fanboys.

Personally, I've lost interest for RPGs in general shortly after completing Tales of Symphonia. (Which I found really enjoyable.) And yes, FPS' are getting pretty stale nowadays, but you could say that for almost every genre.

OH HOLY CRAP Forgot about that one too 0_E.... But it's for the gamecube, and was released quite some time ago. Still, good JRPG.

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"Who the hell approved that costume? Dude's got a ram on his crotch!"

For anyone who has NO idea what we are talking about, these are all lines from the game.

"Is it true steroids shrink your... Nevermind"

"F this ramen! F for Fabulous!"

Hey, awesome! I bought this game a week ago!

I really love it, but then again I'm an equal-opportunity gamer who doesn't shun entire genres and/or companies just because people on the Internet I'll never meet think they're gay.

I agree with what Yahtzee said about finding one set of pins that work and forgetting all the rest; I keep trying to find new ones I like, but I always end up going back to horizontal-slash, vertical-slash, Hadoken-fireball-thing, and giant ice pillar.

You don't really have to pay any mind to the fashion aspect of the game, but it's nice for someone who actually enjoys micro-managing hundreds of items like I do.

Doesn't matter though--if you hate JRPGs, a great JRPG isn't going to change your mind.

Is it really Yahtzee's birthday?

twilight_dweller:

Parsec:

"Who the hell approved that costume? Dude's got a ram on his crotch!"

For anyone who has NO idea what we are talking about, these are all lines from the game.

"Is it true steroids shrink your... Nevermind"

"F this ramen! F for Fabulous!"

"This is subtracting from my arts and crafts time."
"The proof is in the pudding. The pudding...of their doom."
"Some Old Horses Can Always Hear Their Owners Approach"

twilight_dweller:

Parsec:

"Who the hell approved that costume? Dude's got a ram on his crotch!"

For anyone who has NO idea what we are talking about, these are all lines from the game.

"Is it true steroids shrink your... Nevermind"

"F this ramen! F for Fabulous!"

Sho is pretty much a gigantic quote on his own, but "Tasteless Tetrahedron" still gets me.

I suppose if you want reviews of JRPG's by people who appreciate the sub-genre, Penny Arcade tends to lean in favor of them.

Yahtzee is definately one of the better for recommending shooters or action games though.

YoungZer0:

PedroSteckecilo:

YoungZer0:
I really wonder what he would think about Persona 3 FES.

Yahtzee might like some of the SMT games, but he would not like Persona 3 FES, too much grind, turn based battles and it is VERY japanese. He might like Nocturne or DDS, but probably not Persona 3.

I think Persona 3 FES has many of the points that are missing in "The world ends with you" (Stupid name). Turn based combat is okay as long as it goes fast. As far as i know every SMT Game had turn based combat and DDS/Nocturne are damn hard. You played Persona 3 FES? Just curious.

Well, there is actually little grind considering as long as you know how to play. The only difficulty I found was figuring out Bufu meant Ice, and Agi meant Fire, and so on. Seriously, it's not that hard to say Fire, so then why do they have to make it these weird names? Other than that, this game I would have to give (and yes, I have taken the time to beat it... despite how long it was) a recommendation to RPG fans. It's even got interesting story to each NPC if you take the time to talk to them, and increasing the social links I have to say was one of the most enjoyable parts of the game. Comparing this to "The World Ends With You" is utter bull crap. Persona 3 Fes isn't portable, but it's one of those games that don't have to be, because the story will keep you right where you are. That's the sad thing though, not many portable games can give amusement. Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time would be a great example of a good portable game though.

Happy Birthday Yahtzee! *Hands jar of marshmallow fluff with a bow on top* Enjoy yourself. ;)

Amusing review, though I think the whole 'why are JRPG's even selling?' was answered when you started to get into why china and the such like to read their games and not really play them.

^_^

nice...although for puzzles i'd much rather play the whole myst serie all over again..CX
so...How about Gran Turismo 5?

YoungZer0:
I think Persona 3 FES has many of the points that are missing in "The world ends with you" (Stupid name). Turn based combat is okay as long as it goes fast. As far as i know every SMT Game had turn based combat and DDS/Nocturne are damn hard. You played Persona 3 FES? Just curious.

Played it, loved it. Just, judging by Yahtzees opinions and tastes, he wouldn't like its focus on Teenage Life in Japan or playing the hero with the most Emo hair ever.

Ha. I totally saw the closing song coming as soon I saw what game it was. I love that song.

Hey Yahtzee how old are you getting ? Me and the boys want to know how many pints to drink tonigh :D

Congratulations, Yahtzee! Another great reveiew!

Oh, and happy birthday.

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