Review: Fallout 3

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why was this game released on the first day of the VCE year 12 Exams? i pre-ordered the collecters edition and the BOBBLE HEAD IS STARRING AT MEEEEEE! but i cant play for 2 weeks!

I've got it. Unfortunately, because I'm working today, I have to wait until tomorrow morning to play it. I suppose I'll have to console myself with my little Power Armoured figurine.

avykins:
Im still just pouting that they screwed up the levelling up system. Was one of the major things I liked about Oblivion.
Also I hope the landscape changes later on because I am sick and tired of everything looking exactly the same.
However since it appears to be soo similar to Oblivion hopefully mods will be out for it very soon.

They didn't "change" anything. Oblivion is from the Elder Scrolls series which promoted that type of leveling up. Fallout always had an xp system where a level up granted you x amount of skill points based on your int and a perk every 3 levels. (you get a perk every level in Fallout 3)

I sorta just pretended that I only got a perk every 3 levels and the other levels I just took the intense training one to boost my stats. I thought that I would anyways, but level 14 came and perks left and right I started to want. By the time I got the ones that popped up from 14, I was 16 and then new ones came! I got mysterious stranger for kicks because it was funny to have some random guy show up (especially once you get power armor and he's still in his slick suit and hat with his six-shooter)

back on topic of the quote: so yea.. Even though there are some recycled stuff, they didn't recycle the leveling/fighting mechanics. (well i guess they sorta did for melee [hold for power attack :D])

on the review: I know this is my fault, but I beat the game in 20 hours because I only did like 6 or 7 side quests and through speech, skipped a lot of main/side quests (by that I mean quests you do to earn trust of someone which in turn helps to complete an objective of main quest [thank goodness I had speech because I always thought those quests were sort of meaningless especially for a handsome and smooth talker such as myself])

So I sorta had to reload the last save I had and pretended I didn't finish what would be the "ending" and proceeded to venture off into the unknown wastelands in my sexy Tesla Armor and Plasma Rifle. :hopes there are better power armors out there: I surely find it! If not, I'll cheat and read a guide and say I found it on my own!

avykins:
Im still just pouting that they screwed up the levelling up system. Was one of the major things I liked about Oblivion.

The leveling system in the Elder Scrolls series is terrible, and utterly atrocious in Oblivion due to its use of level-scaling. You could create the ultimate character by refusing to level up. You could simply raise your abilities, ignore the whole concept of increasing your level and become a god because everything would remain pathetically weak.

To get the best stat bonuses and make a decent character, you were forced to use minor skills, which destroyed the whole point of the major ones. I resorted to making the skills I actually wanted to use the minor ones and putting the stuff I didn't want to focus on as major ones. You have to raise two different minor skills connected to two different attributes at least ten times before raising a major one connected to yet another attribute ten times to get the best bonuses. Therefore, you'll spend more time increasing minor skills and minor skills will have a greater impact on your character's development than major ones, since they'll give you two sets of +5 stat bonuses, while the major you use to level gives you only one set of +5. What kind of backwards logic is that? Switching to an XP system was probably the best decision they made in terms of game design, and shows they at least made an attempt to learn from Oblivion's mistakes.

Slycne:
Note the now highlighted word. The videos are not meant to replace the reviews. The intended purpose is for you to both read and view.

I understand that, but he could have at least put a bit more effort into it. Susan Arendt did an excellent job with her video for Fable II. Despite being an extra, it still managed to be very informative. Russ' seemed to be hastily done, like it was put together last minute. Why even have the supplement if it adds nothing to the review? It was way too short and simply featured footage of Russ being slaughtered by random explosions and radcrabs. It honestly made the game look horrible, which didn't fit the praise it was being given.

avykins:
Im still just pouting that they screwed up the levelling up system. Was one of the major things I liked about Oblivion.
Also I hope the landscape changes later on because I am sick and tired of everything looking exactly the same.
However since it appears to be soo similar to Oblivion hopefully mods will be out for it very soon.

If you read the Fallout quotes you would know it is billed as an "Epic RPG without all the swords and spells crap" ala the back of the Fallout boxes.

Fallout is a game that isn't meant to be cart blanch for the player. The game is meant to drag you through with a sense of isolation, desperation and a strange churn of fun. It leaves the player to figure "it" out and really feel like they're working for survival. Of course, if you want to edit it into Barie's Horse Adventure, by all means.

Hmm...Im still not sure about this game, mostly because it looks a hell of alot like Oblivion. I really didn't like Oblivion

1.Do the NPCs talk and animate realisticly?
2.I get the worlds big, but is it full and varied? Are there times when your spending 10 minites just getting from one place to the other?
3.Does the game need to load alot like oblivion, or is it seemless?

Basically, I had the same problem Yahtzee had. Is it emersive? I suppose it at least looks like a more interesting and origanal world than Oblvions. But if its between this and Fable 2, theres no way im getting this.

I have to say after having owned the original games i was worried about how this game was going to turn out. Would they keep the whole feel of the game or just butcher it. and so far i have to say im loving the game, but only time will tell if this game will stand up to its predecessors

Moochkin:
I have to say after having owned the original games i was worried about how this game was going to turn out. Would they keep the whole feel of the game or just butcher it. and so far i have to say im loving the game, but only time will tell if this game will stand up to its predecessors

I was worried about that too. I feel they changed the atmosphere a bit too much, i like the slums feel of the shitty towns in fallout 2, and the bigger towns that are better off, and all the gangs and prostitutes (for the general feel of the city of course). This game seems like its just a bunch of people who are doing really well in small crappy towns. Theres no crime, just random spawned raiders... But oh well. They did good in keeping a lot of the fallout feel and certainly surprised me but they also lost a lot. My opinion anywho.

SomeBritishDude:
Hmm...Im still not sure about this game, mostly because it looks a hell of alot like Oblivion. I really didn't like Oblivion

1.Do the NPCs talk and animate realisticly?
2.I get the worlds big, but is it full and varied? Are there times when your spending 10 minites just getting from one place to the other?
3.Does the game need to load alot like oblivion, or is it seemless?

Basically, I had the same problem Yahtzee had. Is it emersive? I suppose it at least looks like a more interesting and origanal world than Oblvions. But if its between this and Fable 2, theres no way im getting this.

It's a game set in a post apocolyptic wasteland. Of course it's big and empty thats part of the ambiance.

SomeBritishDude:
Hmm...Im still not sure about this game, mostly because it looks a hell of alot like Oblivion. I really didn't like Oblivion

1.Do the NPCs talk and animate realisticly?
2.I get the worlds big, but is it full and varied? Are there times when your spending 10 minites just getting from one place to the other?
3.Does the game need to load alot like oblivion, or is it seemless?

Basically, I had the same problem Yahtzee had. Is it emersive? I suppose it at least looks like a more interesting and origanal world than Oblvions. But if its between this and Fable 2, theres no way im getting this.

1:NO! Not in the slightest. Mass Effect has 5-star movie acting in comparison (And I wasn't too fond of the acting in Mass Effect...). On top of that, everyone looks like a zombie. The birthday party you have during character creation creeped me the hell out. All those glazed-over eyes staring expressionlessly at you...

2:Yeah, sure. Those are the best times to be honest. The world is large and far more interesting to explore than oblivion's world was. Having tactical fights against raiders, mutants and the like, using every trick you can think of to take them out is what is making the game enjoyable for me so far. VATS is fun to use, although I don't see why I can't target specific body parts in close combat... I miss that from F1 and 2.

3: No, but I have a pretty okay computer, so perhaps it takes longer for some people. Loading has not been a concern for me so far.

As long as you stay away from people who want to talk to you the game is pretty immersive. Other than that it's like trying to take a bath in a tea cup.

Why would you want to play a game where combat is done turn-based? Oh wait... I guess this is for people who are totally clumsy and can't play a shooter on Easy.

Heddon:
Why would you want to play a game where combat is done turn-based? Oh wait... I guess this is for people who are totally clumsy and can't play a shooter on Easy.

And the award for "Missing the point completely" for 2008 goes to... this guy.

Have you ever wondered why Fallout 3 has a "3" next to it? Yeah, that's right - it's the third canonical title in a series dating back to 1997 and originally based on a tabletop RPG system called GURPS.

Now, I don't care how fast your FPS reflexes are - you're not going to be able to play a tabletop game in real-time, and suggesting that removal of turn-based from the Fallout series would be a good thing is the sort of thing that would have an NMA (or worse, DAC) mob outside your house, complete with pitchforks and lit torches.

Oh God. Will developers stop bringing out so many essential games in one month

Hearing Ron Perlman's opening lines was the best part of the intro for me; the review supplement did good to include that. ;)

The dialogue itself doesn't bug me as much as the varying volume levels that you run into, even if you're standing in the same place. Something about Liam Neeson yelling in your ear when he's standing right next to you...I love the guy, but did someone fail to do post-processing or is that an engine issue?

i freaking love the sound track.

oblivion was a somewhat good game, i think its better

althought V.A.T.S. made it too...easy

Where was the review element in that review? You didnt say how you liked it, what could have been better etc. You just stated what you can do and how to do it.

1. The NPCs aren't fantastic, but they have enough animation, and some genuinely funny or well-done voices and lines make up for it, I think.
2. It's varied and it's not. Please allow me to explain. The environment, well, it's post apocalyptic wasteland-esque, there's not much color. The wasteland and Washington D.C. style wasteland are about it. In the big term. But every building and area has so many unique details, and the wasteland is sprinkled with just enough places/towers etc. that it's not overcrowded, but enough to make you see several things in the distance you haven't before and fight an urge to immediately go explore and loot all three. Despite the fact you've been trying to get to the same location forever and have fallen victim to this impulse about 20 times in as many hours.
3. Well, for the Xbox, it generally wasn't too bad, I can't speak for the other versions. The experience is somewhat alleviated by the anticipation that 5 heavily armed Super Mutants await you behind each door. And the loading screens have some genuinely interesting images, at least for the first few times.

All in all, a game with so many details, it will keep you hooked for hours, looking for that extra Bobblehead or Easter Egg.

this game is awesome little gory compared 2 the last bethesda game or any game iv ever played but it kiks @$$

but some of the brotherhood of steel stuff could've taken less time though

I've just gotta say thanks to the reviewer for addressing the issue of it not being like Fallout 2.

If they released something looking like Fallout 1 or 2 this year, it'd maybe sell 12 copies to Fallout fanboys, who'd still find something to bitch about.

I'm no graphics whore, but at the same time, sometimes you need to update things to have a sensible chance at decent sales nowadays.

I've heard other criticism of changes from the earlier games which are valid, but really, complaining because they've made the game 3D is like bitching that Vice City sucked compared with GTA 1.

Damn I'm still enjoying this on my second playthru tho, and actually finding it hard to play as evil, I'm feeling genuinely bad about some of the things I'm having to do!

This game is a work of art in itself,and those who are annoyed that the gameplay has changed from the original Fallout games...you have to move on,everything has to evolve sometime,just to survive.
Also,who thinks this is better than oblivion?
Because I think it kicks Oblivion's arse in just about everything....
The story is good,good characterisation,good combat,brilliant gameworld,good npc's(that aren't boring like they were in oblivion),great customisation,great atmosphere,there is a dark humour to it....oh,and there are freakin' GUNS!!!!!
I think fallout 3 has a lot more potential in terms of DLC's and mods than oblivion(I think so anyway)
So....*cough*...anyway,now that my rant is over.....who agrees with me that it is better than oblivion?

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