Zero Punctuation: Fable 2

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i am not a fanboy, i love fable 2, thank you for pointing out all the stuff my mind tried to block while i played it. Very good review.

I don't know about you, but while playing I found that the enemies tended to simply stand and let you shoot them. The game has very little challenge once you max the Dexterous Styles and get a Master Flintlock Pistol, with any decent speed you can shoot as fast as a Clockwork Pistol.

Ok. Ban stickas coming down. Last word. Extreme violence has never given a game an AO, because there has never been a game released that's had an AO for violence. Even those edited to M are clearly still "ultra-violent." Each generation has considered its generation's graphics next gen, and each generation's parents have been shocked by the "realism" of the violent video games their kids play. Games on console, such as Mortal Kombat, and games on computer, such as Doom, have created controversy alike. The difference is, in the past, this controversy resulted in actual substantive oversight, such as the creation of the ESRB, while now Jack Thompson is laughed out of court over and over before finally being disbarred. The climate is freer now then it was then. Artists could, and would, take advantage of this freedom, but for one little issue. Games cost too much to make now.

"Ultra-violence" is a risk, just like any other risk a developer might take in production. Sometimes it's disgusting. Sometimes it adds something amazing. If Bethesda had wanted to make a sequel that held true to what was amazing about Fallout they could have. And if Lionhead had wanted to include child killing in Fable (god knows why they'd want to) they could have.

And that's the substance.

2. Relationship micromanagment. This was tried in GTA 4, and it was universally hated. When we are playing a game we are doing so to have fun. Sometimes this is done by the gameplay, in others it comes from advancing the story forward. When, in a game, you are stopped from gameplay, and stopped from advancing the story, because your god-damn wife is threatening a divorce and wants you to go and burp in her face for 10 minutes it makes me wonder what the hell I am playing this game for. Before you say "ohh but you don't have to do that in this game!" Peter M trumpetted all this kind of crap as the next great thing in gaming and said that most of the game consisted of material outside the main quest... I.E. this stuff. So if even if you agree that this kind of crap is indeed crap, 90% of the game is crap.

Oh so agreed, and it's not that it is micro-management, it is that you get a divorce if you ignore it.

He's just presuming that I can't possibly support the 1st amendment because he supports it and I disagree with him on this single issue, it's a horrible and counter-productive way to think. I'm happy to continue to respond to his points until time ends frankly.

I can barely tell what you guys are argueing about,but if you're talking about child killing in videogames and games being banned for it, than yes you can not possibly support the first ammendment and think a game should be banned for child murdering.

You know, I said I wouldn't post here again, but I think I need to point something out.

Yahtzee's review of Fable 2 wasn't entirely true. Some of the things he said just didn't happen in the game. For example, when he said his dog had been searching for treasure while he was fighting, that wasn't true. The dog's role is to search for treasure and enemies. When an enemy appears, he growls, stops sniffing for gold, and helps you fight. There have been no reported bugs stating otherwise, so I can tell that Yahtzee stretched this little bit of his review. That alone makes me think that Yahtzee was looking to tear into this game fom the start, whether it was good or bad. That, might I add, is not how a critic or reviewer should handle things.

Of course, from what I can see, no one is actualy talking about the review anymore, so I might as well blow this out my nose. Still, I felt it needed to be said that Yahtzee shouldn't have been so eager to tear this game apart, simply because he didn't want to admit he could have been wrong in the slightest. That isn't to say that he completely lied and that he probably loved the game, because we all know that isn't true. I just want him to handle what he does in a proffesional manner, even if he's pressured to make us laugh.

BrainGamer:
You know, I said I wouldn't post here again, but I think I need to point something out.

Yahtzee's review of Fable 2 wasn't entirely true. Some of the things he said just didn't happen in the game. For example, when he said his dog had been searching for treasure while he was fighting, that wasn't true. The dog's role is to search for treasure and enemies. When an enemy appears, he growls, stops sniffing for gold, and helps you fight. There have been no reported bugs stating otherwise, so I can tell that Yahtzee stretched this little bit of his review. That alone makes me think that Yahtzee was looking to tear into this game fom the start, whether it was good or bad. That, might I add, is not how a critic or reviewer should handle things.

So you are saying Yahtzee is a liar?

This also happened to me. Rookridge area to be precise - a certain dig spot. Dog yapping on about a dig spot while I was getting my ass handed too me. Am I also lying now?

One of the bugs that has been reported is being unable to dig for treasure after you get attacked while in the process of digging. How are you supposed to dig if your dog doesn't point out where to dig? And how are you supposed to get hit without enemies about? You can't and you can't. This means that it is entirely possible in the game engine for your dumb dog to be treasure hunting while you are in a fight.

Interrupted When Digging

I've seen a few posts about this, people being hit whilst digging. When this happens the dog won't lead you back to the the dig spot, but you can dig manually without the help of your dog - just stand where you want to dig go into the items menu and select the spade.

Note: Doesn't appear to work on the Treasure Island of Doom quest but does work for a certain diary. The best course of action is to ensure all enemies are dead before starting to dig.

That is from a lionhead developer. So are they lying also?

Is it fun?

when r u reviewing Fallout 3?

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cuddly_tomato:

So you are saying Yahtzee is a liar?

This also happened to me. Rookridge area to be precise - a certain dig spot. Dog yapping on about a dig spot while I was getting my ass handed too me. Am I also lying now?

One of the bugs that has been reported is being unable to dig for treasure after you get attacked while in the process of digging. How are you supposed to dig if your dog doesn't point out where to dig? And how are you supposed to get hit without enemies about? You can't and you can't. This means that it is entirely possible in the game engine for your dumb dog to be treasure hunting while you are in a fight.

Interrupted When Digging

I've seen a few posts about this, people being hit whilst digging. When this happens the dog won't lead you back to the the dig spot, but you can dig manually without the help of your dog - just stand where you want to dig go into the items menu and select the spade.

Note: Doesn't appear to work on the Treasure Island of Doom quest but does work for a certain diary. The best course of action is to ensure all enemies are dead before starting to dig.

That is from a lionhead developer. So are they lying also?

No, I'm not calling Yahtzee a liar. You're listing a specific glitch, and also a glitch about the inability to hunt treasure. He was talking about your dog hunting treasure while you fought in general. You're becoming overly defensive over something completely different from what I'm talking about. Seriously, nowhere did Yahtzee say anything about glitches, he did not specifically point out anything to do with dig spots, and neither did I. Also, not once did I use the word "liar," nor did I spaz out. Calm down, we can talk about this like adults, can we not? (I'm using "adults," loosely, as not everyone here is an actual adult.)

I was thinking of buying this game but now I am unsure
Ah well it was still funny as hell

BrainGamer:
No, I'm not calling Yahtzee a liar. You're listing a specific glitch, and also a glitch about the inability to hunt treasure. He was talking about your dog hunting treasure while you fought in general. You're becoming overly defensive over something completely different from what I'm talking about. Seriously, nowhere did Yahtzee say anything about glitches, he did not specifically point out anything to do with dig spots, and neither did I. Also, not once did I use the word "liar," nor did I spaz out. Calm down, we can talk about this like adults, can we not? (I'm using "adults," loosely, as not everyone here is an actual adult.)

You didn't use the word 'liar' but you did say "Yahtzee's review of Fable 2 wasn't entirely true. Some of the things he said just didn't happen in the game." You also said "There have been no reported bugs stating otherwise, so I can tell that Yahtzee stretched this little bit of his review. That alone makes me think that Yahtzee was looking to tear into this game fom the start, whether it was good or bad. That, might I add, is not how a critic or reviewer should handle things."

You owe someone an apology.

I never "spazed out" in defense of Yahtzee. I "spazed out" at your defense of what is the most broken game EVER in the brief history of the Xbox360. This is EXACTLY what happened to me (contains spoilers)...

This game is simply not fit for use and should be recalled. Using the fact that most people have internet connections to push games out of the door before finished is a low tactic, and should really be against the law.

great review.. BUT about the whole "you get a scar from dying" thing, i don't think it was meant to scare people from dying.. i think it's a neat little feature. it was pretty cool in Fable 1 when you were fully grown and you could see all the scars on your hero.

I wanted him to say something about the male hookers. :(

Great Review, the only thing I wish he had mentioned that he didn't was the new Save set up. I hated how the Auto Save used the same slot as the Normal one. It was lovely that I was ask each time I saved if I was sure I wanted to overwrite my data. But when it came time for an auto save it didn't really matter if I cared or not. It just overwrote it.

cuddly_tomato:
You didn't use the word 'liar' but you did say "Yahtzee's review of Fable 2 wasn't entirely true. Some of the things he said just didn't happen in the game." You also said "There have been no reported bugs stating otherwise, so I can tell that Yahtzee stretched this little bit of his review. That alone makes me think that Yahtzee was looking to tear into this game fom the start, whether it was good or bad. That, might I add, is not how a critic or reviewer should handle things."

You owe someone an apology.

I never "spazed out" in defense of Yahtzee. I "spazed out" at your defense of what is the most broken game EVER in the brief history of the Xbox360. This is EXACTLY what happened to me (contains spoilers)...

This game is simply not fit for use and should be recalled. Using the fact that most people have internet connections to push games out of the door before finished is a low tactic, and should really be against the law.

While I feel bad for you and your horrible gaming experience, once again, Yahtzee listed none of those problems. Not to mention, I owe no one an apology, as I still never called Yahtzee, you, or Lionhead Studios a liar. Just because I criticized Yahtzee (funny, no?) does not mean I'm immediately a villain or a liar. You, dare I say, are slipping into a fanboyish state. When I played the game, I only experienced one glitch each time I played through it, and even then, they weren't very bad glitches. You were just unlucky. I'm guessing Yahtzee experienced very few glitches, as he didn't bother to mention it at all.

My main point, though, is that the game's very manual says "Your dog will not find treasure while enemies are around." Those aren't the exact words, but it still states that pretty boldly. That's why I criticized Yahtzee. I'm pointing out that he attacked this game more so than usual, which could be because people expected him to rip it apart.

I would also like to disagree with your "recall" statement, as you've officially pointed out that you are a Yahtzee fanboy (poor Yahtzee). Your hatred for this game has carried over to your love of Yahtzee, which has lead you to attack me for critizing him. Besides, a recall? Over something as small as technical issues? Unless this game caused massive damage to every Xbox 360 console it was played on, a recall would not be made. Get a hold of yourself, you're a gamer aren't you? Start acting like one.

(PS: I'm not defending this game, I'm defending the balance that game reviewers should keep when reviewing a game.)

BrainGamer:

While I feel bad for you and your horrible gaming experience, once again, Yahtzee listed none of those problems. Not to mention, I owe no one an apology, as I still never called Yahtzee, you, or Lionhead Studios a liar. Just because I criticized Yahtzee (funny, no?) does not mean I'm immediately a villain or a liar. You, dare I say, are slipping into a fanboyish state. When I played the game, I only experienced one glitch each time I played through it, and even then, they weren't very bad glitches. You were just unlucky. I'm guessing Yahtzee experienced very few glitches, as he didn't bother to mention it at all.

My main point, though, is that the game's very manual says "Your dog will not find treasure while enemies are around." Those aren't the exact words, but it still states that pretty boldly. That's why I criticized Yahtzee. I'm pointing out that he attacked this game more so than usual, which could be because people expected him to rip it apart.

I would also like to disagree with your "recall" statement, as you've officially pointed out that you are a Yahtzee fanboy (poor Yahtzee). Your hatred for this game has carried over to your love of Yahtzee, which has lead you to attack me for critizing him. Besides, a recall? Over something as small as technical issues? Unless this game caused massive damage to every Xbox 360 console it was played on, a recall would not be made. Get a hold of yourself, you're a gamer aren't you? Start acting like one.

(PS: I'm not defending this game, I'm defending the balance that game reviewers should keep when reviewing a game.)

First off, I am perfectly a hold of myself. Any hostility you see here is purely your own projection of it. I played this damn game, and found it stupidly bugged. I clearly was not alone. Look around...

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170894

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/10/24/fable-ii-players-report-game-breaking-glitch/

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/24/fable-ii-players-report-game-breaking-bug/

http://kotaku.com/5068806/fable-ii-abbot-glitch-now-a-matter-of-priority

http://forums.xbox.com/23960225/ShowPost.aspx

http://forums.xbox.com/24215871/ShowPost.aspx

http://forums.xbox.com/24209246/ShowPost.aspx

http://forums.xbox.com/24201625/ShowPost.aspx

http://forums.xbox.com/24202863/ShowPost.aspx

http://forums.xbox.com/23980761/ShowPost.aspx

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55554

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26647874

http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2008/102808a.html

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=33050

http://www.agglom.com/agglom/40675/Game_Breaking_Fable_2_Bugs

Now before you assert that an event in the game Yahtzee played "just didn't happen" I want you to go to all those sites and all those forum threads and start pointing out that you only had one glitch, and they are all stretching things a bit. See the kind of responses you get.

I never "offically pointed out" I am a Yahtzee fanboy. So cut that crap out right away. The game should be recalled because it just doesn't work as it should. Every single product on earth should be finished and in complete working order BEFORE money is exchanged. Why game developers feel exempt from this would be beyond me if it wasn't for idiots defending this practice on internet forums.

You are not a villan for criticising Yahtzee, but for calling someone a liar. It is that simple. And that is exactly what you did:-

BrainGamer:
Yahtzee's review of Fable 2 wasn't entirely true. Some of the things he said just didn't happen in the game. For example, when he said his dog had been searching for treasure while he was fighting, that wasn't true. The dog's role is to search for treasure and enemies. When an enemy appears, he growls, stops sniffing for gold, and helps you fight. There have been no reported bugs stating otherwise, so I can tell that Yahtzee stretched this little bit of his review. That alone makes me think that Yahtzee was looking to tear into this game fom the start, whether it was good or bad. That, might I add, is not how a critic or reviewer should handle things.

When you accuse someone of saying something "Not entirely true", then state that it is not an error but that they "stretched it", you are calling them a liar. It might be polite and civily said, but you are still saying they are a dishonest person. When you say they are "looking to tear into" something, and "this is not how they should handle things", you are attacking their integrity. You simply do not behave like this on internet forums, or anywhere else. Get some proof, or cut don't do it. We get it, you like the game. That doesn't mean that everyone who spots a glitch (whether they realize it's a glitch or not) or flaw is "stretching" it.

I welcome criticism of Yahtzee in this thread, as he didn't ream this game nearly enough. It was truly one of the worst games of the year... maybe even including Too Human.

Yahtzee mentioned attempts at realism in his review... I could see none in the game.

Hero: "Hey honey, I need to go off and save the world!"

Wife: "That's fine dear, but if you don't come back half-way through that and fart in my face for 10 minutes I will divorce you."

........

Hero (who is now king): "I am king, can I have my kid back now please?"

Child protective services: "Sorry king, your wife left you because you didn't slap her face enough so you can't ever see her again."

.......

Evil Hero (who has just butchered half of the town): Raaar raarr *walks around menacingly with massive hammer and blunderbuss on back*

Random man with pointy hat thinks: "I have a great idea! I shall now walk up behind that gentlemans dog and kick it up the arse!"

......

Hero: *Tries to hit kid with sword*

Kid: "Haha! I am immune to swords!"

The RPG elements were not "a bit of a mess" as Yahtzee said, they were a complete shambles. In Fable 1 I could really pick, magic, stealth, or melee. Whichever I picked I could go down that route in the game and be happy with it, not really needing to branch out into the other disciplines, thus making it a true RPG in that sense. In Fable 2 you cannot do such a thing.

Concentrate on Melee? Then you get enemies you can't fight - trolls, 3 of which are essential for the story part of the game. And the final shard. Impossible to beat with a melee weapon as it hovers out over the sea. You don't get to shoot the gargoyles, which means that entire area of loot is closed off for no better reason than your character somehow can't shoot at what he can see.

Concentrate on magic? Oh well you can't beat trolls either then. As it takes so long to build up a spell capable of even harming a troll, and they throw stuff and knock you over if you try that. Ohh and forget about even building up enough power to hurt beetles, as they jump on your head and distrupt your magic... come to think of it beetles in this game are harder than bandits. Or spire guards. Or shadows. Or balverines... I suppose the creature designers had a falling out with the combat designers and they weren't talking to each other during development.

You can get away with concentrating purely on ranged combat, unless you are of a high level when you get to the spire and get given an arbitrary pop gun with which to beat the commandant and 299 spire guards in such a wonderfully awful part of the game were I found myself wondering why the hell I bothered building up to such a high level when all that was going to happen was it was all going to be taken away again.

And what happened to armor in this game? Fable 1 had armor. What reason is there for an RPG... or any game where swinging swords is part and parcel of the gameplay, to not have different armor? What we have instead is clothes. None of which make any difference other than making NPCs offer a few different lines occassionally.

The story... oh my god the story... Fable 2 has the worst story of any RPG in the history of gaming. And I include games such as Gauntlet and Heroquest on the Spectrum. The story, for those who want it spoiled, is this...

That is lame. Very very very lame. Particularly that kind of ending. I fondly recall pitched battles around the focus sites in Fable 1, along with a vicious show-down with Jack-of-Blades. What happened to Lionhead in that time?

In summary, yeah I think Yahtzees review was funny, but not really hitting the nail on the proverbial head of this game concerning its quality. He really should have taken it and crucified it, before cutting out it's eyeballs and feeding them to it.

Ragdrazi:
Ok. Ban stickas coming down. Last word. Extreme violence has never given a game an AO, because there has never been a game released that's had an AO for violence.

No, pre-censored Manhunt 2 would have gotten AO. You're flailing here by claiming that "Extreme violence has never given a game an AO, because there has never been a game released that's had an AO for violence." when you damn well know any game the ESRB says will get an AO for certain content will be retooled, since the AO is a kiss of death. You could try to point out some Playboy games or a few niche games that are aiming for AO but that too would be complete bullshit.

I mean you started this post with a restatement of a totally disingenuous sentiment. I see no reason to engage you on the rest of the post until you begin to argue honestly.

cuddly_tomato: The reason Yahtzee's style is good because he creates the illusion of being a foaming at the mouth maniac for comedic effect. It doesn't work when you really foam at the mouth.

cuddly_tomato:
First off, I am perfectly a hold of myself. Any hostility you see here is purely your own projection of it. I played this damn game, and found it stupidly bugged. I clearly was not alone. Look around...

I cut that quote up a good bit, seeing as I didn't want to stretch the page, but rest assured I read all of that. This will be my last reply, so look at these words and think very hard about what they mean, alright?

I did not call Yahtzee a liar, so I am not a villain. Unless I used the word "liar," you can't hold this against me. You merely took it that way. You're being rude and obnoxious, and it is very hard to hold a conversation when you continue to go on about me calling Yahtzee a liar, when I clearly did not. We aren't in Grade School, where kids go on and on about "he said this," and "he said that," I would hope.

However, the many words that you shortened to a single four letter word were not false. Yahtzee's first reviews on Youtube included his review of Fable: The Lost Chapters. He gave that game a balanced and fair review, and seeing as Fable 1 wasn't all that great, the "tearing up" that he gave it was pretty much deserved. However, between being contacted by Peter Molyneux and the pressure of having so many fans, Yahtzee was expected to tear this game apart. At first I wouldn't have thought he would do so, but I'll be shot dead before I take back what I said. In the game manual, it says your dog won't hunt for treasure while enemies are around. Yahtzee said otherwise. While the game is pretty bugged, he said something that went against the game's programming. Therefore, I said he "stretched" his review. I did not say "OMG Yahtzee is liar ass-douche LOLZ."

So DO NOT call me a liar, DO NOT accuse me of calling anyone a liar, and DO NOT hold such hostility when you aren't even talking about the same thing that I'm talking about. You're listing glitch after glitch, trying to distract me from my main point, as you cannot prove me wrong. It says so in the game manual, the dog won't hunt while enemies are present. Even if there was a glitch where he did, that would be a "glitch," something Yahtzee didn't bother to mention. He did not say anything about glitches, so each time you speak of bugs and glitches, you fail to stay on topic. I'm talking about the game's very programming (flawed as it may be). Are we clear now? I called him out on something that was set in stone for the game, glitches be damned.

Moving on to your vast amount of links, I would just like to say that you do not have enough of them to change my opinion. Unless you can show me over 1,000 websites about Fable 2's glitch issues, each having over 100,000 hits, I will not agree with you that Fable 2 is so "glitched" that it should be recalled. Why, you may ask? Millions of people bought this game, and ten or so sites complaining about them will not cover all of those consumers. The game is bugged, I agree. The game is glitchy up the ass, I agree. However my gaming experience has been fine, and I don't even use Xbox live.

On a last note, now you're going on about the game's very quality? The story even? What's next, the cover art? You've strayed so damn far from the topic I picked up that you shouldn't wonder why I won't be responding to you anymore. So you didn't like the game, oh well, I guess you aren't the Fable type. Don't go yelling "recall" just because you, one person, hated it. Even if tens of thousands of people hated this game, that's still only a fraction of the amount of people who bought it. I liked this game because Fable 2's gameplay was fun and easy, the game was never once frustrating, and the childish humour that such an adult game makes is just hilarious. How many games have blood splatters and sex, yet very rarely use profanity? Very few. I loved Fable 1, I love Fable 2, and the likes of you or Yahtzee can't change my opinion. Without people like me, the game industry would collapse. People like you complain and complain, telling people not to buy games, which has a heavy impact. As Gamers, we need to buy these games and try them, even if they are good or not, because everyone's opinions are different. Someone who would have liked the game might not have bought it, simply because people like you complained that it was a waste of time. Anyone who enjoys playing video games is a Gamer, and we all have a responsiblity to buy these games and at least give them a chance. If the money stops, how will the video game companies produce that one amazing game?

As you might have noticed, I'm not some uneducated 10-year-old with a computer. I know what I'm talking about. Sadly, as this is my official final response, any last opinions you want to get in will all be ignored. Unless, of course, they are actually good opinions, in which case, I may actually respond.

(EDIT: I feel this needs to be said. You went on about how the game forces you to branch out your abilities as a hero. I agree, however, I loved this fact. Why? Because the game's story said you were the nexus which brought the three hero abilities together. Going down one path is fine, but the game tries to make it hard for you if you do. The game is pretty easy to beat anyway, wouldn't that extra challenge be a good thing?)

............fable is too easily broken :(

somehow i can imagine yahtzee foaming at the mouth.... i wonder y? :P

Although I loved Fable, Fable 2 seems more like the sims I agree with you Yahtzee you have to get a job to support your family as you have to set a household budget and unlike Fable 1 bandits don't seem to drop any gold. I don't want to play games that imitate life, go to school, get a job, get married and then end up suffocating my self with a plastic bag.

Has Peter Molenuex replied yet?

Awesome review! Especially the ending.

MURPHYCHACHO:
Ah,

Kross:

MURPHYCHACHO:
I keep getting a 404 error as well. Is there something wrong with the website?

Sorry, we ran into some caching issues for a bit. But I leveraged the power of the megaramz to make everything faster then ever and at almost a third of the load.

Ah, I see. Works fine now. Thanks!

And Yahtzee, because of you, I will now be naming my dog Chips when I get this game.

Lol. This game was pretty shallow at best.

This is the review I agree the most with. Seriously all other site reviews gave it such high scores but it was so disappointing to see how much of it was copy/pasted from the 1st game. Oh well what can I say other than it's okay but to me the original is still among my fav games of all time...and I hate copy/paste :P

Anyone who thinks this review was bad seriously is only trying to rationalize why they bought a game that when the price is divided over the game's storyline length it equates to 5$/hour, yes, you spent 5$/hour, USA minimal wage to an employee, to play a video game that was a ball of hype. Your job you do for hours to make cash is the same as playing the field goal of Tecmo Bowl for the standard NES over and over again, and you can buy pointless property just to own it because all the money you make does next to nothing for gameplay.

We were ripped off, and until everyone can let down their defenses long enough to tell peter that he did in fact rip us off, he will do the same thing for Fable 3 which has been planned. People will not fix a problem unless the fans voice that there is one. Even before release everyone was like "Fable 1 was short, I hope number 2 isn't!"

Ahh a Red Dwarf joke, that's why I love Yahtzee.. he's a British Crumpet.

Edit: Now that I think about it, that floating Molenyeux head strangley resembles Holly.

Damn.... I thought Fable 2 looked good.

I thought this game was great except the whole clothes system I want armour and more stats and stuff and more flashing colours that help hold my attention.

DayDay8421:
Ben, you never cease to cause my face to contort every time I see one of your reviews. I remembr stumbling onto your Darkness and Fable reviews a good while ago and used to pray that one day we would see your reviews take off.

Awesome work Mr Croshaw, I almost peed me panties!

Oh god I hope you're a girl...cause if not...YOU WEAR PANTIES?????

Aidoc:
I love most of Yahtzee's reviews, but I didn't find this one funny at all. Fable 2 is a great game, and I expected Yahtzee to be intelligent enough to enjoy it instead of dismissing it like most ADD gamers. Just sounded like Yahtzee had a bad day and picked a target to me.

Oh, I understand. Basically you want Yahtzee to be "intelligent" enough to have the same opinion as you do?

Give me a break.

Don't you people understand by now that this is what Yahtzee does? He picks apart all the bad things because it's more entertaining that way! He's an entertainer as much as he is a critic! He just found a way to put them together in a winning formula.

What if he did it the other way- what if he praised everthing instead?

"Oh this game is good, I liked the dog because it is a good companion to look at while days are going badly BLAHBLAHMINDLESSCRAP THE END".

yeah i would have to agree. When i married some peasant beezy, there were like 20 on the street outside the house. I immediately killed some so they all cowered to me so i pretended that i was their cult leader.

GodBeastX:
Anyone who thinks this review was bad seriously is only trying to rationalize why they bought a game that when the price is divided over the game's storyline length it equates to 5$/hour, yes, you spent 5$/hour, USA minimal wage to an employee, to play a video game that was a ball of hype. Your job you do for hours to make cash is the same as playing the field goal of Tecmo Bowl for the standard NES over and over again, and you can buy pointless property just to own it because all the money you make does next to nothing for gameplay.

We were ripped off, and until everyone can let down their defenses long enough to tell peter that he did in fact rip us off, he will do the same thing for Fable 3 which has been planned. People will not fix a problem unless the fans voice that there is one. Even before release everyone was like "Fable 1 was short, I hope number 2 isn't!"

I would also add to this - the bits of the game which were actually 'game' parts weren't even that good. And for a chunk of it you actually had to do game work that was as tedious as real life work.

Peter Molyneux - if you read this, for the love of god stop making games, you are crap at it. Become a painter and decorator or get a job modelling wigs or something.

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