Zero Punctuation: Fallout 3

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Best. Beginning. EVER.
Didn't fool me though! No, no. Never.

nice way to start this episode haha good reviwe

The review was funny, I'm surprised he didn't hammer the flaws. i enjoy the game, am still playing it, but it's far from perfect. Still, yahtzee's reviews are definitely a midweek highlight...

"Fallout 3 that is"!
That was awesome. The beggining was great aswell.

I agree with the Far Cry 2 thing Yahtzee.

I got about half way through before Fallout 3 showed up at my front door. Followed by a few other games. So really its just sitting there waiting to get played.

AceDiamond:
Yet another person who couldn't let go of the fact that it wasn't Van Buren. *rolls eyes*

I'm not complaining about thinks like the first person view or the strange combat system but about things like the incredibly bad writing, unbelievable characters and missing freedom of choice (the main quest has NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER right until the last 30seconds of the game.)

All the strong points of FO1+2 are gone and all thats left is oblivion with new textures and guns.

LOL, that was awesome, one of the best yet. i liked fallout 3 , but i did notice it had some weak points, like the copy pasted train station tunnels . i was hoping Yahtzee would do fallout3.

Hurrah for the return of Branston Pickle. I wonder if the Universe would end if you spread it on Fallout 3? Would it be awesome?

BlueInkAlchemist:
First 20 seconds are worth the price of admission.

Also, if you haven't tried Branston pickle yet, what's wrong with you?

I live in a place where they don't sell it?

derpa:

AceDiamond:

MolotoK:
Has Yahtzee ever played the originals?
I guess he didn't, because then he wouldn't compare fallout 3 to Branston Pickle.

I expected much more of a bashing for FO3 by Yahtzee.
It's probably the most disappointing game in the last decade or so and definetly the worst sequel ever made but no reviewer seems to notice....

Yet another person who couldn't let go of the fact that it wasn't Van Buren. *rolls eyes*

While I disagree with Yahtzee on a few points he does have a point that a lot of it does get monotonous at times, hence why i spend a lot of time picking a direction and exploring. But V.A.T.S. still never gets old.

*eye roll* Someone made a strawman

*eye roll* Someone thought that was going to make me feel sorry for words.

Awesome! Do World of Goo next, I think you'll like it Yantzee.

Hmm, I might have to buy this game now.

I was expecting more bile actually :P

...but I must say I totally agree with Yahtzee.

Fallout 3 was to obvious of a target given all the pre/post-release from No Mutants Allowed, so I'm suprised this review isn't all bile.

As for a comparison with Oblivion, Fallout 3 is better... granted the flaws are still there but the game world is alot more interesting.

MolotoK:

I'm not complaining about thinks like the first person view

You can go into third person view.

or the strange combat system

You can play it just like the original Fallout games.

but about things like the incredibly bad writing, unbelievable characters

No better or worse than the original Fallout games.

and missing freedom of choice (the main quest has NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER right until the last 30seconds of the game.)

It has markedly more freedom in the main quest than the original games did, and a feck-ton more in the secondary quests. I don't ever recall a moment in Fallout 1/2 where I could nuke a quest hub.

"There's a good reason why no one has ever tried to mix real time and turn-based combat." Actually, Parasite Eve 1 mixed those two elements and as a combat system (apparently giant mutant centipedes will kill you while exercising the utmost patience) it kind of sucked in comparison to its sequel that threw out the turn-based elements altogether. The game itself was pretty good, though.

Volucer:
I agree with the review, only part I didn't like was the subpar ending.

Indeed, the ending was a huge let down and didn't even make sense given who I had with me at the time...

EDIT:
The rest of the game I enjoyed, even with what Yahtzee pointed out, heh.

MolotoK:

AceDiamond:
Yet another person who couldn't let go of the fact that it wasn't Van Buren. *rolls eyes*

I'm not complaining about thinks like the first person view or the strange combat system but about things like the incredibly bad writing, unbelievable characters and missing freedom of choice (the main quest has NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER right until the last 30seconds of the game.)

All the strong points of FO1+2 are gone and all thats left is oblivion with new textures and guns.

You say you aren't complaining about the first-person and then use the "hurr Oblivion with guns" comment to sum it up. Can't have it both ways. And since you are complaining about the writing, characterization, and freedom of choice (oh I'm sorry was choosing to blow up an entire town or not choosy enough for you?), then ultimately your complaint is that it isn't Van Buren.

And since your initial comments of "worst sequel ever made" and "most disappointing game of the last 10 years" were just thrown out there without any sufficient evidence (even for opinion both those claims are pretty steep, I'm pretty sure Starfox Command is the worst sequel ever made since Nintendo has denounced it as non-canon) you can see how one ends up in a situation like this.

Lastly, like Yahtzee once said, he isn't a "sweary ninja for hire", so while one could expect or hope for him to assassinate a game just because one personally didn't like it, it isn't always going to happen. It's not like I'm broken up because he didn't tout it as 2008's game of the year, after all (hell I don't even think it is GOTY worthy)

imbaczek:
if you really haven't played fallout 2, then i kinda forgive for this review. now go play it, coz now is the time and you're several years behind.

If I've sussed Yahtzee's playing preferences right, he probably would've gotten frustrated with Fallout 1 and 2's slow-paced combat and the way your followers tended to keep shooting you to death all the time and gave up before he could see those games' many good points. (Not that follower AI is great in FO3, but at least my best friends aren't constantly "accidentally" emptying an SMG into my rear end.)

Great review, surprised he liked it as much as he did (hey, I love FO3 but I generally expect him to be cynical as possible; "It was all right," from him is high praise). I agree with him on most of his points (though am slightly more forgiving of the subway tunnels ;) ).

Doug:

Volucer:
I agree with the review, only part I didn't like was the subpar ending.

Indeed, the ending was a huge let down and didn't even make sense given who I had with me at the time...

I know. That really urked me.

i disagree wth the similarities of oblivion. surprisingly, as bland as a post apocalyptic place can be, i didnt find it NEARLY as bland and boring as the landscape in oblivion. also, all the character interactions were done so insanely better. it honestly felt like a completely different game than oblivion, at least to me, despite the similarities that might be there.

basically, what i'm trying to say is, this is the first time i disagree with a review here. only in some small points, but i still dont know how to react with this newfound emotional trainwreck i have just walked into. i know he liked it, but i still have an issue with the comparisons to oblivion. i guess it's to be expected though.

I agree with the stealing things part, it really has been ingrained into me that being the hero means everything in the game world is yours to own or smash to get the health/rupees inside.

It's probably why I enjoyed being a thief in Oblivion.

Loving the review Yahtzee :D

On another note...How long do you think it will take for this thread to be filled with "Fallout 3 has no right even existing near Fallout 1/2" people?

"You eyes fall out.. Fall out 3, that is!"

I think that made this review for me! XD
Seriously though, very good, albeit a little on the short side. I'm really tempted to get this game and the only thing putting me off atm is, surprisingly, that Bethesda are behind it. I loved Oblivion, but found it's characters and sceanery very monotonous and very un-immersive. Clearly this is meant to gretly improve on that, but it's still a worry.

Either way, great ZP!

Liked the pickle sandwich part. And nice, another game he likes. Actually I did see the part of the E3 review making a comeback but never thought that Yahtzee would actually retrieve it. Good for him.

i was hoping for allot more, but I guess he is to busy playing Wraith of the lich king.

Ye it does get a bit monotonous. Then you sell a child to the slave traders and you instantly forgive the game for it. As always a review worth of applause. And while the quick-travel system isn't exactly immersive, it does help when you have to go to the other end of the world.

For a ZP review, this is positively glowing. ;)

Three thoughts: one, I suspect he never got to the infamous ending. Two, it can get a little monotonous and silly, which is one reason I'm taking a short break from it now that I've finished it (the first time). And three, I suspect that the reason that the big name actors aren't given more lines and screen time is that they're bloody expensive.

Fallout 3, that is!

Heh heh heh! Well done, sir.

needausername:
Haha, that first part was really good, (I mean the beginning 20 seconds) And I do agree with the Fallout 3, Oblivion thing, and I steal most stuff not stuck down too, except I don't pickpocket, as I suck at it...

I'm the exact opposite. I only steal if the owner of the house has been a real bastard to me. Fortunately, Oblivion had enough a-holes in it to let me finish the entire Thieves' Guild quest line. Anyone remember that annoying nobleman in Skingrad?

Still no Far Cry 2? Ah well... still made me laugh.

No-where else on the internet makes me crave cheese and pickle sarnies with such clockwork regularity than this little hole.

I think that merits some sort of certificate, surely.

I agrea with this review alot. Lol they did a better job on it but at the same time the change did go out the window very fast. It is good I will say that. More or less you just try to stumble accross stuff. I do agrea the ending was bad. I mean it was not a fall out ending at all. 1 and 2 we super this was good. My biggest problem with it was the lack of them massive play back. I mean this one has non of the oh you make you character wrong so you will loose half the story type play. I do say it still fun even though about 3 runs through the game will be most likly the end of the play back abilty this one has.

what??
Yea there where some bad parts in the game (ended with me having 9000+ caps and 4000+ bullets for my Chinese assault rifle and about the same for my assault shotgun) but the worst part was the ending and how badly the level cap was made, i really hope that this will receive a video later on where he ads a few bitch-slaps!
When you reach lvl 20 and realize that the 4points you spent on exp gaining perks and the Right-here-right-now perk you get really fucking ticked. Also Bobble heads wtf!? you have most likley min/maxed you char to perfection by the time you find them so they are worthless.

Oh and if u can bash Fable 2 for not letting you kill children then you should double that here for the little lantern area, usually i don't have a very strong desire to kill children but i hate to make empty threats.

AceDiamond:

derpa:

AceDiamond:

MolotoK:
Has Yahtzee ever played the originals?
I guess he didn't, because then he wouldn't compare fallout 3 to Branston Pickle.

I expected much more of a bashing for FO3 by Yahtzee.
It's probably the most disappointing game in the last decade or so and definetly the worst sequel ever made but no reviewer seems to notice....

Yet another person who couldn't let go of the fact that it wasn't Van Buren. *rolls eyes*

While I disagree with Yahtzee on a few points he does have a point that a lot of it does get monotonous at times, hence why i spend a lot of time picking a direction and exploring. But V.A.T.S. still never gets old.

*eye roll* Someone made a strawman

*eye roll* Someone thought that was going to make me feel sorry for words.

A strawman followed by an assumption, you're on a roll.

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