Zero Punctuation: Fallout 3

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I shot a Mole Rat in the neck and it's head flew off and rolled into a hole which turned out to be a tunnel full of goodies :)

"flawed masterpiece"

Poptart Fairy

You can go into third person view.

Which is flawed.

You can play it just like the original Fallout games.

No you can't.

No better or worse than the original Fallout games.

It has markedly more freedom in the main quest than the original games did, and a feck-ton more in the secondary quests. I don't ever recall a moment in Fallout 1/2 where I could nuke a quest hub.

*Facepalm.

The begining had my in stiches, funniest thing ever I swear!

AUGH!

My heart, my heart! *thud, falls over, dead*

*scrittering sounds as rats come in to chew on the body*

. . yeah, on second thought, I wouldn't bother to review Farcry 2. It's so monotonous and sadly pathetic that it'd be like kicking your dead dog around the room.

DeusFps:
Review far cry 2 next?

Read the credits of this review. Your answer is there.

I'd just like to say that mixing turn-based and real-time combat doesn't always turn out horribly, just look at Valkyria Chronicles. Then again, those are two very different games. I'll shut up, now.

AceDiamond:

MolotoK:
Has Yahtzee ever played the originals?
I guess he didn't, because then he wouldn't compare fallout 3 to Branston Pickle.

I expected much more of a bashing for FO3 by Yahtzee.
It's probably the most disappointing game in the last decade or so and definetly the worst sequel ever made but no reviewer seems to notice....

Yet another person who couldn't let go of the fact that it wasn't Van Buren. *rolls eyes*

While I disagree with Yahtzee on a few points he does have a point that a lot of it does get monotonous at times, hence why i spend a lot of time picking a direction and exploring. But V.A.T.S. still never gets old. Plus I liken it more to having spontaneously generated the ability to transform into Cleric John Preston and go all gun-kata on people (ok so I stole that from one of the designers who described it that way on the Making of DVD but whatever).

Really hope Bethesda figures out their uncanny valley problem because he's very right about that.

I have no problem about this game not being Van Buren, I do have problems however with this game completly raping the Fallout franchise, having the most awfull combat ever and having completly atrocious dialogue, this game is not a FPS/RPG, it more like some strange mix that uses only 2/5 FPS, 1/5 RPG and 2/5 suckiness.

derpa:

Poptart Fairy

You can go into third person view.

Which is flawed.

You can play it just like the original Fallout games.

No you can't.

No better or worse than the original Fallout games.

It has markedly more freedom in the main quest than the original games did, and a feck-ton more in the secondary quests. I don't ever recall a moment in Fallout 1/2 where I could nuke a quest hub.

*Facepalm.

So are you saying 1 and 2 are better than 3 or not. I haven't played any but I would like to start with the original, lately I have appreciated the classics more because gaming is not what it used to be.

We decided to be more positive Yahtzee? Finally a game that doesn't sound so messed up! I research either way, I'm a Yahtzee fan but I don't follow 'yay' or 'nay'.

I thought that was quite a bad review, it didn't seem to cover very much.

Hooray for the support of the Fallout series! Excellent description of the game and criticism of the odd unreal qualities Bethesda seems so fond of. I was wondering if he'd like this game and the fact that he does so cheers me up - and not just because I consider his words gospel.

And huge points to self-reference in flying off on Branston Pickle circa "No More Heroes," the Captain Picard notice circa "Oblivion" and another mention of "Mankind is Yet to Recognize My Genius" circa "Saints Row 2."

Agree with the VATS "problem" altough it pretty fun to watch ppl blow to little bits :p it does make the game super easy, a super mutant might be mildly scary if you couldnt stop it in its tracks and take a nice aim or two ^^

I dont get why they made a fps view then not have you doing the shooting i may have worked better in oblivion acctually were i always thought the fighting was about pressing attack enought. O well good games anyways :)

As for the issue of playing the other fallout, they are so far back in time and technology that a player should enjoy it without knowing about the others.

Yay! A review, this was most tittilating.

Dammit, Yahtzee,

When are you reviewing Mirror's Edge?

Was I the only one who thought the opening of this review was kinda blah? I mean, the joke is ancient. It's been around as long as there have been reviews. Or movies. Or radio programs. Or basically anything that has an intro and an outro.

No big deal, though, I was just surprised at how many people are praising it here. Overall the review was very good and funny, as ZP reviews usually are.

I don't see the VATS system as a problem, btw, since you need action points to use it and you can only get a couple of shots off before they run out.

Intro
Yeah, it's pretty good
Outro lol
it's okay though, you can still be king in F2 ;)

Etni:

I don't see the VATS system as a problem, btw, since you need action points to use it and you can only get a couple of shots off before they run out.

Granted but after a couple of lvls you get a head shot in everytime and nothing can really survive long enough for you get into serious trouble(especially when ur hidding and get the critical), obviously their are exeptions but still makes the hole thing a tad easy.

Lobster... accountants?

Nazulu:

So are you saying 1 and 2 are better than 3 or not. I haven't played any but I would like to start with the original, lately I have appreciated the classics more because gaming is not what it used to be.

We decided to be more positive Yahtzee? Finally a game that doesn't sound so messed up! I research either way, I'm a Yahtzee fan but I don't follow 'yay' or 'nay'.

Fallout 1 and 2 are better RPGs, while 3 is a better FPS.

kharn-ivor:
Granted but after a couple of lvls you get a head shot in everytime and nothing can really survive long enough for you get into serious trouble(especially when ur hidding and get the critical), obviously their are exeptions but still makes the hole thing a tad easy.

Hmm, that does sound like a problem. Guess I just haven't gotten enough skill points in weapons yet. :)

The opening was pure gold. Gold.

Wow, I guess Yahtzee didn't finish the story mode. I was expecting about ten minutes of screaming, followed by a credit roll.

Not that it makes Fallout 3 a bad game, but I have noticed people's opinion of the experience go from "GOLD!" to "SHIT!" if they finish the storyline. Man that was a lousy ending...

the "it's okay" thing was funniest

A great review as always Yahtzee, liked the start. The VATS system is good, but I still wish they would have put some form of slight autolock on the shooting (like in COD4), as when you are not using VATS the shooting can be annoying at times.

I always bothers me how Yhatzee insists on playing games on the easiest setting and then complains on the being too easy. I basically play the way he did a good karma character with thieving skills and I find hard and very hard setting still quite challenging at times. Theft in the original Fallouts didn't make you lose karma at all so I still think this is a step forward.

I haven't finished the storyline yet so maybe thats why i like the game so much while still being a fan of the original games.

I have to say that the analogy with Branston pickle is very appropriate indeed. Although Branston pickle says "Pickle" on the jar, the taste, consistency and look of it have nothing to do with actual pickles. Rather than being tasty solid pieces of vegetable it's a brownish goo with some bits that may or may not have been part of the cucumber that supposedly went into the recipe. At the end of the day, if you ever decide to live in England and want to buy a sandwich for lunch, steer clear of sandwiches that say Pickle in the ingredients. You may try one to get the experience, but if you are not English, you won't have this "acquired" taste.

MolotoK:
Has Yahtzee ever played the originals?
I guess he didn't, because then he wouldn't compare fallout 3 to Branston Pickle.

I expected much more of a bashing for FO3 by Yahtzee.
It's probably the most disappointing game in the last decade or so and definetly the worst sequel ever made but no reviewer seems to notice....

Because to many reviewers where having so much fun with it :p . I have to remind myself that fallout has the largest broken fanbase ever. No matter what they did with fallout, none of those fans would have liked it.

MJ12 Commando:
I always bothers me how Yhatzee insists on playing games on the easiest setting and then complains on the being too easy. I basically play the way he did a good karma character with thieving skills and I find hard and very hard setting still quite challenging at times. Theft in the original Fallouts didn't make you lose karma at all so I still think this is a step forward.

I haven't finished the storyline yet so maybe thats why i like the game so much while still being a fan of the original games.

it was not a step forward....

lockgar:

Because to many reviewers where having so much fun with it :p . I have to remind myself that fallout has the largest broken fanbase ever. No matter what they did with fallout, none of those fans would have liked it.

Yea none of the fans have liked it *eye roll*

A very nice review... as usual. I thought he was going to review Left 4 Dead, but Fallout 3 its ok too.

derpa:

it was not a step forward....

Says you. Don't forget that your opinion isn't the only one in the world. I know, I know.. it's hard.

derpa:

Yea none of the fans would have liked it *eye roll*

No, really. He had a point. No matter what you do with Fallout 3, you will have pissed off fanboys. You'll please some and you'll displease the rest. There really is no "magical formula" that would have taken the franchise into the current generation and pleased every single Fallout fan.

even though i really thought the begining hilarious and agreed with almost every point he made i didn't laugh at all which is wierd cause i always laugh (!atleast!) twice but atleast he reviewed it and it wasn't boring

hilarious beginning! great review as always Yahtzee!

derpa:

Yea none of the fans would have liked it *eye roll*

I raise your *eye roll* with my own *eye roll*. About the only thing *eye roll* the "broken fanbase" would have enjoyed, is if they made another fallout game that looked like it was made in 1999, complete with low resolution sprites and talking heads *eye roll*. Then they would have complained that it wasn't different enough *eye roll*.

Like Yahtzee said "Fans are clingy complaining dipshits who will never be grateful for any concession you make. The moment you shut out their shrill tremulous voices the happier you'll be for it."

derpa:

Yea none of the fans would have liked it *eye roll*

Stop moaning. Why don't you back up your claims with some actual reasoning. Your opinion is not the law, you may be entitled to it, but that also means people are allowed to disagree with you.

The opening took me off guard. Pretty funny. All in all I guess thats all Fallout 3 is, a re-skinned and improved upon Oblivion.

Still enjoying the game though!

I need to play this game and yes it was funny

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