177: Be Still My Beating Heart

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anti_strunt:
Some of which possess stylised sexual characteristics; some of which do not, and are explicitly stated as being of a young age. Both cathegories are involved in pseudosexual petting activities.

Seriously. Are you a diehard relativist, or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?

I'm just replying to your posts.

My initial argument didn't even have anything to do with the game per se, just that people have narrow minded responses to such things.

Mystery00:

anti_strunt:
Some of which possess stylised sexual characteristics; some of which do not, and are explicitly stated as being of a young age. Both cathegories are involved in pseudosexual petting activities.

Seriously. Are you a diehard relativist, or are you just being contrarian for the sake of it?

I'm just replying to your posts.

My initial argument didn't even have anything to do with the game per se, just that people have narrow minded responses to such things.

To continue on from your works about what works best for society...

Would you say that pedophilistic pornography of the cartoon kind (involving no actual children) provides a valuable service to society by providing the same catharisis a violent action game might? The argument is often raised that such material would "keep them off the streets" as it were.

anti_strunt:
Would you say that pedophilistic pornography of the cartoon kind (involving no actual children) provides a valuable service to society by providing the same catharisis a violent action game might? The argument is often raised that such material would "keep them off the streets".

Violent video games have been found to help with anger management, and porn most certainly helps with sexual frustration.

The problem is that these work on people that are not "far gone" so to speak, the predators that we want to be "kept off the streets" are like rapists, murderers, thieves. They're not sane and they're a minority.

I'd say most paedophiles are more or less harmless, they're not about to go stalking kids just like you and I aren't going to go around shooting people, even though I bet everyone has thought about it.

Violent games don't make you and I murderers, and these games aren't going to churn out child predators like factories, but they do provide some sort of relief.

And just to go completely off track, in the future we'll probably be able to stick people into tubes and they can act out all the fantasies they want in the safety of their very own virtual reality. I'd say that might eventually be a "final solution" for people with "strange" tendencies. =P

Mystery00:

anti_strunt:
Would you say that pedophilistic pornography of the cartoon kind (involving no actual children) provides a valuable service to society by providing the same catharisis a violent action game might? The argument is often raised that such material would "keep them off the streets".

Violent video games have been found to help with anger management, and porn most certainly helps with sexual frustration.

The problem is that these work on people that are not "far gone" so to speak, the predators that we want to be "kept off the streets" are like rapists, murderers, thieves. They're not sane and they're a minority.

I'd say most paedophiles are more or less harmless, they're not about to go stalking kids just like you and I aren't going to go around shooting people, even though I bet everyone has thought about it.

Violent games don't make you and I murderers, and these games aren't going to churn out child predators like factories, but they do provide some sort of relief.

And just to go completely off track, in the future we'll probably be able to stick people into tubes and they can act out all the fantasies they want in the safety of their very own virtual reality. I'd say that might eventually be a "final solution" for people with "strange" tendencies. =P

So, to cut to the chase somewhat: if this game was somehow objectively "proven" to be paedophilic and pornographic in nature, you wouldn't necessarily deny it the right to exist?

anti_strunt:
So, to cut to the chase somewhat: if this game was somehow objectively "proven" to be paedophilic and pornographic in nature, you wouldn't necessarily deny it the right to exist?

Not outright, no. If there was unmistakeable proof that it was somehow detrimental to society, I might be against it, but nothing seems to actually indicate that.

Would you?

Mystery00:

anti_strunt:
So, to cut to the chase somewhat: if this game was somehow objectively "proven" to be paedophilic and pornographic in nature, you wouldn't necessarily deny it the right to exist?

Not outright, no. If there was unmistakeable proof that it was somehow detrimental to society, I might be against it, but nothing seems to actually indicate that.

Would you?

My point was rather, if you wouldn't necessarily consider the possiblly paedophilic nature of the game problematic, then why the heck did we just waltz through a largely fruitless debate on the perceived sexual maturity of the characters therein?

anti_strunt:
My point was rather, if you wouldn't necessarily consider the possiblly paedophilic nature of the game problematic, then why the heck did we just waltz through a largely fruitless debate on the perceived sexual maturity of the characters therein?

Because people are silly. It's also a fairly spicy topic, so it's not surprising that you might misconstrue an argument or two.

anti_strunt:
My point was rather, if you wouldn't necessarily consider the possiblly paedophilic nature of the game problematic, then why the heck did we just waltz through a largely fruitless debate on the perceived sexual maturity of the characters therein?

You brought that up, I was just answering your posts.

Mystery00:

anti_strunt:
My point was rather, if you wouldn't necessarily consider the possiblly paedophilic nature of the game problematic, then why the heck did we just waltz through a largely fruitless debate on the perceived sexual maturity of the characters therein?

You brought that up, I was just answering your posts.

You'll excuse me if I feel just the slightest bit led along.

I'm sad it's not in America )c:

when I saw the picture on the main page, at first I thought it was Nia from gurren lagann.

goddammit, why have they not imported this into english??
or even just put an english setting in the options menu

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