Winter is Coming

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Winter is Coming

MovieBob scopes out the fall and winter movie season, you know, when all the good movies come out.

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I got to admit I thought this was going to be about Bob telling us he started watching games of thrones.

How does "The World's End" not make the list?

After seeing all the hype about the Ender's Game trailer, I read the book and wasn't that impressed. The only stand out thing from it is how the kids deal with each other. Which isn't that surprising really. Being told that you are training to save the world is more than a little bit of pressure.

MovieBob:
Winter is Coming

It's still played out unless you're talking about a porno staring Jack Frost.

Gotta say I'm more look forward to Cumber Smaug then Orlando Bloom.

JackBauer47:
How does "The World's End" not make the list?

That is the most summery of summer movies. This piece is focusing on things in the fall/winter.

OT: I hadn't heard of The Monuments Men before, but now it's a must-see; I'm just hoping they don't succumb to the temptation to make it into Indiana Jones.

Thunderous Cacophony:

JackBauer47:
How does "The World's End" not make the list?

That is the most summery of summer movies. This piece is focusing on things in the fall/winter.

Not "This is the End", "The World's End" from Pegg/Frost/Wright. Its release date is August 23rd, which is covered by this list.

An impressive line-up but I'm surprised "The World's End" wasn't mentioned (Thanks, JackBauer47) but, hopefully, Bob will cover it in a future review.

Surprised there wasn't a parody of Hunger Games prior to this. I have to say though, I am going to avoid the hell out of Oldboy.

On the one hand, the hallway fight was badass enough that it's been ripped off in all sorts of other movies. Having seen the original, however, I really don't want to go through the last third of that jacked up movie again.

I'm glad I'm not the only one a little disturbed by the lack of Applegate's character in the Anchorman 2 trailers. There was an opportunity in the original to make her character yet another fun-hating prudish quasi-mom surrogate trying to bring order to a "boys club"- but instead, she was every bit as nuts as all the other characters in the movie, and it was awesome.

I have to say, Elysium sounds awesome. On another note the trailer for The World's End just doesn't look that funny (apart from the fence gag, although it being in the trailer isn't a good sign), I'm a bit worried. I'd be really disappointed if it wasn't close to Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz in quality, but I think asking it to be as good might be a bit much to ask.

Machete Kills is gonna be senseless awesomeness! Looking forward to this!

Really worried about the Oldboy remake. The original was such a perfect film, there's nothing I can see a remake adding to it. I know Spike Lee is a great director when he's on form, but even so, Oldboy as it is already is just sublime. The hallway fight, the octopus scene, the plot twists, the pitch-perfect casting and acting... everything is just spot on.

Also thinking I should just give up on The Hobbit at this point. The first film left me underwhelmed, and the trailer for the second looks to be going even more off the rails. I actually disagree with Bob on this: for me, I think the issue with the films is that they try and introduce too much portentousness and 'epic lore of epicness' into a story that was only ever supposed to be a light-hearted adventure romp with some sly winks and subversions of heroic myth thrown in. In short, they've tried to make the films too much like Lord Of The Rings, and I think it's really hurt the end product.

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My other issue with the Oldboy remake is that they're essentially remaking the middle chapter of a trilogy. Oldboy forms the second part of the Vengeance trilogy, the other parts being Sympathy For Mr Vengeance, and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. While they're not connected narratively, they have the same thematic ideas running through, to the point that they really do feel like three chapters of a larger narrative. Oldboy on its own is sublime, but Oldboy as part of a three-act study on revenge is just incredible.

Without that context, I don't think the remake will have anywhere near the same power or emotion.

JackBauer47:

Thunderous Cacophony:

JackBauer47:
How does "The World's End" not make the list?

That is the most summery of summer movies. This piece is focusing on things in the fall/winter.

Not "This is the End", "The World's End" from Pegg/Frost/Wright. Its release date is August 23rd, which is covered by this list.

My bad. "The World's End" comes out July 19th in the UK. I don't know why he passed that one by.

An intriguing list. The Monuments Men has gained particular attention on my part. I wonder if they will adress blunders such as the Monte Cassino bombing or conveniently step around issues that would portray the Allies as anything but flawless.

Apart from that, I suppose I can look forward to Thor 2, despite that they will probably have weird set locations for it (Heck, the prolouge to Captain America was more source-linked than the whole first movie).

NO! How does the Seltzerberger team keep getting MONEY?

The Gravity trailer reminds me of KSP so much. Hang in there Jebediah.
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Thunderous Cacophony:

OT: I hadn't heard of The Monuments Men before, but now it's a must-see; I'm just hoping they don't succumb to the temptation to make it into Indiana Jones.

Agreed. Only movie in that list that interested me and I'd never heard a peep about it. I hope it gets released here in Europe and doesn't go all action movie.

I must be getting jaded in my old age because none of those movies sound interesting except for Saving Mr Banks. I don't know what it is about this kind of behind the scenes of creative endeavors that intrigue me, but they do. But since I'm aware of this bias, I am eyeing that one more suspiciously, unsure if my interest is genuine or indicative of potential enjoyment or not.

Tom Hanks...playing WALT FREAKIN DISNEY...telling the behind the scenes of one of the more beloved Disney films "Mary Poppins", i.e. Hollywood gets it chance to pat itself on the back for how awesomely awesome they are...

GEE, I WONDER WHO'S GOING TO WIN BEST PICTURE AT NEXT YEAR'S OSCARS. THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCH A CLOSE RACE.

Meh...even if it's good, even if it's GREAT, I'm already grumpy against Saving Mr. Banks...it just seems too telegraphed to me. And when everyone gets swept up in the hype once Disney starts cranking that nostalgia machine (and it's been a while since Tom Hanks won his last Oscar, so even MORE sympathy support), I'm already like "what's the point, just give it the bloody Oscar now and not even bother entertaining the idea of anyone else standing a chance."

Gravity, The Monument Men, and Saving Mr. Banks. Can't wait.

I think I've officially become completely, thoroughly, terminally burned out on empty, fake-depth spectacles.

It probably happened when a movie came out that somehow managed to suck the joy out of Superman, and snap the neck of my inner child in the process.

The Dubya:
Tom Hanks...playing WALT FREAKIN DISNEY...telling the behind the scenes of one of the more beloved Disney films "Mary Poppins", i.e. Hollywood gets it chance to pat itself on the back for how awesomely awesome they are...

GEE, I WONDER WHO'S GOING TO WIN BEST PICTURE AT NEXT YEAR'S OSCARS. THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCH A CLOSE RACE.

Actually, that it really CAN'T entirely be that story is why it's an interesting (prospective) film. There are a metric-ton of "Walt: The Great Man" stories to tell if you want to deify Disney, but the production of "Mary Poppins" is rather notoriously NOT one of them, even if the final film is (rightly) regarded as a genuine classic. Even with a light touch, anything other than a complete fabrication of the events will yield a story that is (at least in part) about two exceptionally driven, headstrong, nigh-egomaniacal artists - who both maintained paradoxically classy/whimsical public personas - trying to out-game one another over a movie project.

P.L. Travers was a hell of a character: Classic "childhood trauma/iron-willed adulthood" British author background, "brainy scrapper" reputation as a younger scholar/author (she didn't just want to out-write her mostly-male fellows in the British literary/poetry scene, she could out-drink them, out-party them, paid her earliest bills writing "erotic verse" and was no slouch with the ladies either) and also kind of a basket-case as an adult: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128544/Mary-Poppins-New-film-set-reveal-truth-creator.html

Disney, on the other hand, was basically Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder version) sans the last-minute "just kidding!" Meticulously cultivated his "magical grandad" routine in public, utterly ruthless and cunning as a businessman and filmmaker. He and Travers were both utterly unimpressed with one another, which drove both of their egos mad. I'm honestly perplexed at how the actual movie can be anything other than either a one-sided account (i.e. making one of them, probably Travers, the "good guy") or a dark-ish comedy about the absurdity of two adults going at it like wolverines over a fanciful children's film.

what did i take away from this? Good god George Clooney has been busy lately. He's in what? 4 of those?

Damn, they're still churning out those stupid cameos? My curiosity had to be sated and I looked at that Starving Games trailer and it just...just

Woah, blacked out there for a moment. Must have been the sheer awful of that trailer in-hey where'd all this blood come from?

I concur Bob, more Forrest Whittaker is always a good thing. I can't see the role being as deep as Idi Amin though.

Im sorry but if you watched his short movies, then you would know District 9 would be awesome.
Insidous 2 could be good (first one was a mess) if they decide if they want to be a comedy or horror. Not both.
Oldboy will be good if they have the balls to follow the originals plot 100%.

TheRightToArmBears:
I have to say, Elysium sounds awesome. On another note the trailer for The World's End just doesn't look that funny (apart from the fence gag, although it being in the trailer isn't a good sign), I'm a bit worried. I'd be really disappointed if it wasn't close to Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz in quality, but I think asking it to be as good might be a bit much to ask.

The fence gags in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are both included in their respective trailers.

JackBauer47:

TheRightToArmBears:
I have to say, Elysium sounds awesome. On another note the trailer for The World's End just doesn't look that funny (apart from the fence gag, although it being in the trailer isn't a good sign), I'm a bit worried. I'd be really disappointed if it wasn't close to Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz in quality, but I think asking it to be as good might be a bit much to ask.

The fence gags in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are both included in their respective trailers.

Ah, well then, that's ok. I'm sure I can be forgiven for not remembering what was in each films' trailer.

Still, I can't help but feel like it just doesn't look too funny, but I'm prepared to be surprised.

Part of me really wants Monuments Men to be WWII meets Ocean's Eleven

So, what you're basically saying is nothing interesting is coming out in the near future?

Is it bad that the movie I'm most excited for is MACHETE KILLS?

There was nothing unnecessarily gruesome about Man of Steel though....

Wow, I had no idea they were doing a remake of Oldboy. That's going to be...interesting, to say the least. I wonder if they're going to keep the twist ending with the big reveals? I can't tell how well those would go over with here in the US.

Also, definitely looking forward to Elysium and Thor 2. Hoping those are as good as they seem!

Samuel L. Jackson is playing the 'prison' manager guy I believe which should be great. Django Unchained reminded me that he can play more than just the stereotypical badass black dude.

j-e-f-f-e-r-s:
My other issue with the Oldboy remake is that they're essentially remaking the middle chapter of a trilogy. Oldboy forms the second part of the Vengeance trilogy, the other parts being Sympathy For Mr Vengeance, and Sympathy For Lady Vengeance. While they're not connected narratively, they have the same thematic ideas running through, to the point that they really do feel like three chapters of a larger narrative. Oldboy on its own is sublime, but Oldboy as part of a three-act study on revenge is just incredible.

Without that context, I don't think the remake will have anywhere near the same power or emotion.

Eh I think that's going to be less of an issue. While yeah it'd be much grander if they tackled all three films, arguably Mr. Vengeance has more going for it as to why it shouldn't be remade, but as you said it's sublime in its own right and especially considering this film is more or less a more mainstream Oldboy to appeal to a broader audience, it should work well as a stand-alone. Having said that, I'm looking forward to this film only because it's more Oldboy. I'm not holding my breath but at the very least I hope it gives the original more attention.

Why is George Clooney in practically all of those? And why did they make a new Oldboy, when the other Oldboy is still one of the most awesome movies ever? That would be like remaking Fight Club for no goddam reason with different actors. Why is Bob still banging on The Hunger Games, when it wasn't that bad of a movie, admittedly mediocre, but not exactly terrible? Why is there a specific reference to an actor who does practically nothing but look pretty and say the line "We must fight!" or some variant of it in every movie I've seen him in? When will Bob stop being a giant grumpipuss that Man of Steel was not about Superman being a boring, flaccid, two dimensional pastiche of 50's American values? Why did we go from the amazeballs Sharlto Copley to the kind of uninteresting Matt Damon for Blomkamp's much anticipated sci-fi funfest?

Will any of these questions be answered? Find out next time!

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