Jimquisition: Gamer Guys

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Jimothy Sterling:

WaitWHAT:
"Guys leading me on with their muscular buns and slick calf muscles."
"using their supple, smooth bodies and elegant nipples to sell themselves on sex appeal"

Jim....it's time for you to come out of there.

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(<3)

Implying I've ever been in there.

Oh Jim. I'm skipping over any cheap shots, cause your awesome.

Crap my brain stopped working. I've never met people who bitched about girls being there. Is this really a huge problem?
Or did you just need to get your eye candy fix?

OH well i'll keep an eye out for movie defense force.

Phasmal:

Where do I get my Official Nerd stamp/tattoo/passport?
It sure would be easier to be instantly recognisable as one of the True Gamers.

And I notice my male friends are not getting the Nerdish Inquisition, is there some sort of delay for them?
Somebody should be quizzing these guys.

You're doing the same thing as Jim. Don't be daft. If you don't know a phony or someone who is manipulating the fandom of the medium, that's a problem with your perception and nothing anyone can really help. Don't try to deny it doesn't happen.

Havoc Himself:
I understand that he is being sarcastic, but I really do hate people of both genders who think that just playing Call Of Duty and WoW makes them a hardcore gamer. I'm just like there is so much you are missing out on on!! Go play some of the hundreds of amazing games that are out there! I know you will find something you enjoy.

To be fair Wow is a special case. I'm not saying their right, their not,
but those people devote a butt load of time to that game.

Vegosiux:

Not that I agree with today. I think what he did today was a full-on strawman, but then again, this may be a geographical thing. Seeing as there's no such thing as a "geek convention" in my country ever, because it's a fucking primitive backwater, I naturally can't relate to how things generally go at those.

I can't comment about conventions or anything, but I've seen plenty of people try to 'test' girls who say they like to play video games. It's not always about the fact that they're female, sure; Some people just get so elitist that they don't want people who aren't into every little niche, obscure title to be part of the community. But there's a reason things like "Girls don't play WoW" or "GIRL: Guy In Real Life" are little memes that exist in MMOs.

Being so exclusionary never made any sense to me. Especially since, as MovieBob pointed out in a recent video, part of the foundation behind the whole "geek/nerd" thing was being excluded in the first place. We should be the people accepting everyone else, regardless of how "into" our hobbies they are. If you stop accusing them of not being "real" gamers because they only play Call of Duty or World of Warcraft or The Sims, maybe you'll help branch them off into other games that you like.

Or maybe we can all just keep raging about how things were so much better back in the good old days when gaming wasn't popular, and how becoming "mainstream" has ruined everything...

chronobreak:
You're doing the same thing as Jim. Don't be daft. If you don't know a phony or someone who is manipulating the fandom of the medium, that's a problem with your perception and nothing anyone can really help. Don't try to deny it doesn't happen.

I think I just saw my point go whizzing above your head.
I'm not being daft, many other people are being daft by placing much undue suspicion on gamers just because they are female. And it's fucking annoying.
Even the patronising `Oh I know you're a real gamer but I had to test you because you know them pesky ladies coming to steal our attentions!`.

I don't think it is NEARLY as big of a problem as the stupid nerd elitism which keeps this place hostile to newcomers.
This is a serious mishandling of priorities.

Personally I hate the "satire" videos if you have a valid point to make mocking it comes from weak standpoint.

When you put your best foot forward and explain your argument and give supporting arguments as well as counter points to common "mis-conceptions" is when your at your best.

These videos on the other hand just make you look childish with a smattering of in-jokes which only destructoid readers will get. Petty and pathetic.

I'm pretty slow..

I really thought Jim was having a go at guy gamers until he mentioned their figure in a sexual manner and suddenly I went, "Wait... is he being sarcastic about how guys feel towards girl gamers?" and I begun to laugh a lot. Haha great episode Jim, I must say it's crazy how people have to question someone so heavily on their passion just because of their gender and how some guy's feel that their culture is being invaded or something. Doesn't make sense to me or why it's a problem.

Darmani:
Gamer Girls... maybe but its really just a whole thing.

Is the intention of Gamer Girls in this sentence to inform me of some etiquette of capitalizing the term? If so, if I didn't capitalize nerds, which I am one of, I'm sure as hell not going to capitalize gamer girls or gamer boys. Gamer girls is just an easier way to say female gamers. It isn't an alliance of people as far as I know and if it was I wasn't referring to it. If you weren't intenting to correct my punctuation then... sorry for getting that wrong and responding unnecessarily.

Earlier this year an ACTUAL comic book creator tweeted a rant about females and conventions and cosplay being attention whores with no respect for their work or the medium.

A professional in his industry publically said that.

And there was the Cross games last year and other stuff.

Ok? I'm not sure how this translates into a larger problem instead of a small vocal minority who have an ax to grind. I mean, surely there are some people who are just there for that (attention and whatnot). Maybe that guy ran into a few and formed a stereotype of them? Perhaps he got turned down by a booth babe and lashed out?

It's just, I'm married to a female gamer. My life would be far more boring without sharing that interest so I'm not sure why anyone would actually be against that unless this is something more than it seems. Like the "they're a lesbian" excuse guys use when a girl says no. Only now that the girl likes nerd stuff they can't claim that they aren't liked because they're a nerd.

shrekfan246:

Or maybe we can all just keep raging about how things were so much better back in the good old days when gaming wasn't popular, and how becoming "mainstream" has ruined everything...

But I don't wanna be a hipster...I'm too piss poor to be a hipster!

But I'm really suspecting this is a geographical thing. Because, frankly...in these parts it doesn't' seem like girls are given a hard time over being gaming enthusiasts. Hell, they're not even being hit on any more than they are being hit on anywhere else. Or being subjected to any kind of "rite of passage". She's playing a priest and she can heal like crazy? Oh so she's a clicker, who cares, we need her because she's our best fucking healer.

(That was my ex by the way)

Vegosiux:

Imp Emissary:

Why does it matter?
If a person is acting like an ass (to the point were you can't tell if they are acting, or just really an ass) how does that make them much different from a real A-hole?

I apologize, but the whole "oh they're just trolls/trolling" thing just kind of sounds like it's saying we shouldn't care about the bad behavior. Kind of like the old saying "Oh, boys will be boys", ya know?

If they talk like a jerk, act like a jerk, and sound like a jerk. What's the difference really between them and a jerk?

Sorry to bug ya about it. It's just been there for a bit like a bad itch.
May you have a good day, and a better week.

Ahhh, Poe's law is in effect firmly I see.

Still, sometimes the best way to parody and make fun of something is to take the defining qualities of that something and wind them up to eleven, so over the top that it has to be obvious you're just taking a piss. Which is what Jim kind of does.

Not that I agree with today. I think what he did today was a full-on strawman, but then again, this may be a geographical thing. Seeing as there's no such thing as a "geek convention" in my country ever, because it's a fucking primitive backwater, I naturally can't relate to how things generally go at those.

Oh, it is DEFINITELY what Jim does. ;D

That said, Jim and others like him go out of there way to make it obvious(sometimes even painfully so) that they are not serious. Funny enough though, it doesn't always work.

For example, do you know of Stephen Colbert? He has a whole show where he put on an act of satire based off people who are very "right" politically. I don't really see how a regular viewer could not tell that he isn't serious, but someone in the Bush administration, in 2006 I think, though his persona was real, and they had him come over to speak at one of their conventions.
:) It was a very funny affair.

That said some of the people I've seen others call "just trolls being trolls" seem to go way out of there way to be jerks. Not just posting a dumb post but defending it, attacking the opinions of others, and sometimes going as far as to make death threats.
That doesn't seem like the actions of someone "just playing around", and if they are, well as I said, what's the difference at that point?

As for Jim's video, while he does make it obvious that he's making fun of the people who complain about fake geeks(specifically female ones), I'm a bit sad to say the people I've seen actually complain about fake geeks aren't as far off from what Jim is acting like as I'd hope.
It may indeed be a strawman, but straw may be a bit too heavy to compare the weight of the argument to.

There is just a very odd, paranoid, and toxic element to the whole group of people who talk about how bad fake geeks are. Even when they have a specific case where what they say about a girl(or I assume at least at one time, a guy) who is "faking" being a geek, I can't really take the whole thing very seriously. I mean, worse case scenario, someone is trying to get attention. And that's bad because...reasons.

Should I not hear from you, may your time be good.

Legion:
The rant was basically taking what some guys will say about girl gamers, but switched it around to be about guys in order to illustrate the point. There are actually people who genuinely believe that girls only play games to impress nerdy guys and to try and fit into the group that is considered by the majority of the world to be sad, lonely virgins.

It's a rather bizarre perspective. Although to be honest like a lot of these sorts of things I can never tell whether or not the people who originally made the comments are just stupid or trolling.

There are some I think, but only some. I mostly just think that many female gamers aren't "serious" enough about their gaming. Case in point, certain girls who squee over bishonen characters but don't care about the games themselves. Or those who only play on easy mode but claim to be a gamer. Talk about giving mixed signals. But maybe it is possible to underestimate the subjective enjoyment girls get from playing games in of itself. I just get the picture that the typical girl and guy generally want somewhat different things from games.

The one thing that still puzzles me about the whole Fake Girl Gamer thing is why people are so sure this happens. The rationale seems to be that attractive girls will pretend to enjoy things they don't, just to get male attention.

Because this is the only way for an attractive girl to get attention, obviously.

Maybe it's my lack of understanding regarding the fairer sex, but it seems to me that there are probably easier ways than faking an entire hobby, if all you're after is attention. It's quite egotistical when you think about it, that the people who rage loudest about the supposed phenomena are so sure that women want their attention, sure enough that they believe women are willing to pretend to be what they aren't just to earn their interest.

i think there was a point that was trying to be made there, but i think it got lost somewhere

it feels kindof like starting a book by reading the third to last chapter first

sure it makes sense, but there's some context missing

kreekgod:
i think there was a point that was trying to be made there, but i think it got lost somewhere

it feels kindof like starting a book by reading the third to last chapter first

sure it makes sense, but there's some context missing

Just some dickery involving controversy over dicks being dicks.

Imp Emissary:

For example, do you know of Stephen Colbert?

I love that guy!

He has a whole show where he put on an act of satire based off people who are very "right" politically. I don't really see how a regular viewer could not tell that he isn't serious, but someone in the Bush administration, in 2006 I think, though his persona was real, and they had him come over to speak at one of their conventions.
:) It was a very funny affair.

Tell me about it, facepalms galore and all that >.>

As for Jim's video, while he does make it obvious that he's making fun of the people who complain about fake geeks(specifically female ones), I'm a bit sad to say the people I've seen actually complain about fake geeks aren't as far off from what Jim is acting like as I'd hope.
It may indeed be a strawman, but straw may be a bit too heavy to compare the weight of the argument to.

There is just a very odd, paranoid, and toxic element to the whole group of people who talk about how bad fake geeks are. Even when they have a specific case where what they say about a girl(or I assume at least at one time, a guy) who is "faking" being a geek, I can't really take the whole thing very seriously. I mean, worse case scenario, someone is trying to get attention. And that's bad because...reasons.

Should I not hear from you, may your time be good.

My main problem is that I simply haven't seen anything like what he talks int he video actually happen. Giving the benefit of doubt, this is either a geographical thing and much more prevalent elsewhere, or he's just plain fucking wrong. Still, I'm totally willing to believe it's a geographical thing.

Maybe because Slovenia, or the Balkans specifically still lives in the past. You're still an outcast if you're a gamer around here. No matter what your gender is. No matter what your job is. I mean what the fuck is wrong with you, you should be out there either making mad money or fucking everything that moves (or making mad money so you can throw it around so that everything that moves will want to fuck you). That's still the mentality here.

thebakedpotato:

Just some dickery involving controversy over dicks being dicks.

well, i did get the point, it just felt like i didn't after watching it

Goliath100:

Jimothy Sterling:

Goliath100:
Oh Jim Sterling, fighting and kissing their butt, you do love your straw men. But really Jimmy, your filler is getting dumber and dumber.

How fucking DARE you talk about my filler? That's way too personal for a public forum.

Nice dodging the question Jimmy. If you need filler material do an episode on why the game industry need to make more literature adaptations (aka Metro 2033) and fewer horrible adaptations of movies.

That's an odd assumption - why would the industry need more adaptations rather than more original IP?

Phasmal:

Darmani:
It DOES kill the exclusive male only fun when you've also got to consciously be more inclusive to the ladies even if its a slight improvement.

Please don't be serious. I don't want to drag up that `Oh, you're serious, let me laugh harder` clip.
Exclusive male fun.
That's my new favourite phrase.

We like to have exclusive male fun in the showers after we all play sports together. No girls allowed - they'd want to talk about feelings and stuff afterwards.

feauxx:
Did you just use a whole lot of words to basically say girls are lying, manipulating, untrustworthy extortionists while simultaneously insulting men for being spineless weaklings who's willpower evaporates the moment they see a girl, making them vulnerable to be wrapped around any girls evil little finger?

Feauxx, meet Therumancer. Therumancer, Feauxx. You get used to it :-P

kreekgod:

thebakedpotato:

Just some dickery involving controversy over dicks being dicks.

well, i did get the point, it just felt like i didn't after watching it

That's because the whole thing is stupid.
And videos like this add a sense that it's a legitimate offshoot of our culture.

Vegosiux:

shrekfan246:

Or maybe we can all just keep raging about how things were so much better back in the good old days when gaming wasn't popular, and how becoming "mainstream" has ruined everything...

But I don't wanna be a hipster...I'm too piss poor to be a hipster!

But I'm really suspecting this is a geographical thing. Because, frankly...in these parts it doesn't' seem like girls are given a hard time over being gaming enthusiasts. Hell, they're not even being hit on any more than they are being hit on anywhere else. Or being subjected to any kind of "rite of passage". She's playing a priest and she can heal like crazy? Oh so she's a clicker, who cares, we need her because she's our best fucking healer.

(That was my ex by the way)

Then I wish America was like where you live. :/

It's been better the past few years, sure, but the vast majority of active members in my WoW guild were female, and I bet very few of them actively revealed that bit of information whenever they were in groups that weren't other guild members. Every now and then it's bad enough that girls refuse to speak on chat programs like Ventrilo just because they'd rather not deal with the harassment. And really, it's just disappointing to me.

People don't need to care that Tim Schafer is so bad at managing money he's managed to squander over $3 million when he was originally asking for a tenth of that amount; They don't need to be angry that Bayonetta 2 is going to be Wii U exclusive; They don't need to be excited that Shadowrun Returns is coming out soon or that A Hat in Time looks to be bringing back the 3D platforming-collect-a-thon genre; They don't even need to know any of that stuff. If they play games, and enjoy playing games, it should be enough for them to be called a 'gamer'. Of course, that could just be me being more tolerant than I should be again.

Imp Emissary:

Legion:

Although to be honest like a lot of these sorts of things I can never tell whether or not the people who originally made the comments are just stupid or trolling.

Question about this specifically.

Why does it matter?
If a person is acting like an ass (to the point were you can't tell if they are acting, or just really an ass) how does that make them much different from a real A-hole?

I apologize, but the whole "oh they're just trolls/trolling" thing just kind of sounds like it's saying we shouldn't care about the bad behavior. Kind of like the old saying "Oh, boys will be boys", ya know?

If they talk like a jerk, act like a jerk, and sound like a jerk. What's the difference really between them and a jerk?

Sorry to bug ya about it. It's just been there for a bit like a bad itch.
May you have a good day, and a better week.

For the sake of whether or not we should care, it makes no difference whatsoever. A person being racist/sexist etc. because they are, or simply to wind people up makes absolutely no difference to the way people should think of them. The fact is they are deliberately being an unpleasant person, so whether or not they "mean it" doesn't matter.

The difference it does make is for discussing problems and how to fix them. People on the internet are frequently unpleasant. For example at the recent Wimbledon tournament (Britain's largest Tennis tournament for those who don't know) one of the commentators said something about one of the female players not being a "looker". The response as we might expect was not a good one, the guy was criticised everywhere for the comment and rightly so. However some comments seemed to go even further than what he said. Some people said she was so unattractive that she wouldn't even be raped.

So are tennis fans sexist? Is there an underlying problem with sexist behaviour amongst the tennis community? Or were those people behaving that way due to anonymity and because they can get away with it?

The reason for why the difference between being one of those things and pretending is relevant, is that any attempt to "fix" them isn't going to work if they are not actually racist, sexist, homophobic and so on. If a person is saying nasty things because they gain enjoyment out of hurting peoples feelings rather than because they are racist (and so on), then trying to educate them about why racism is bad isn't going to do anything.

It's an example I have used before, but in work places they sometimes have courses designed to teach people about appropriate behaviour. For example years back when I applied to work in a supermarket they had a section dedicated to educating people about the correct ways of interacting with disabled people.

If a person in a work place was being nasty to a disabled person, but just because they were nasty, not because the person was disabled, then sending them on a course to educate them about the correct treatment isn't going to help in the slightest, because the problem isn't that they are bigoted against the disabled, the problem is with their treatment of other people in general.

Simply put, we shouldn't be looking at "fixing sexism in the gaming community". We should be fixing the need some people have of making others lives less pleasant. Gaming doesn't have a problem with sexist attitudes. People with anonymity have an outlet for their sadism with no repercussions and are taking full advantage of it.

If we want to fix these problems, we need to look deeper than a handful of guys making idiotic comments. We need to deal with the cause, not the symptom, and to be honest, that's never going to happen. Because the fact of the matter is that not all people are nice, they never have been and they never will be. That's not to say we shouldn't deal with it as and when we can, but people need to be realistic about this kind of thing.

I apologise in advance for any rambling and/or terrible grammar, punctuation and so on. I am enjoying a week off of work and a part of that involves going through my small collection of spirits.

Vegosiux:

My main problem is that I simply haven't seen anything like what he talks int he video actually happen. Giving the benefit of doubt, this is either a geographical thing and much more prevalent elsewhere, or he's just plain fucking wrong. Still, I'm totally willing to believe it's a geographical thing.

Maybe because Slovenia, or the Balkans specifically still lives in the past. You're still an outcast if you're a gamer around here. No matter what your gender is. No matter what your job is. I mean what the fuck is wrong with you, you should be out there either making mad money or fucking everything that moves (or making mad money so you can throw it around so that everything that moves will want to fuck you). That's still the mentality here.

You could also be describing England. Although gaming is accepted in the sense that people on television and radio will admit to doing it, there is still that "Oh, I am such a loser for admitting it" kind of attitude around it.

There are fake people on both sides, Jim. Lets not pretend that no one anywhere has ever pretended to like something to fit in with a group; gender has nothing to do with it.

That said men are the biggest offenders and I am not even making an alternate-universe parody, I really mean it. The biggest most casual crowd in gaming is, by far, the dude-bro crowd: the crowd you just mentioned fixated with CoD. It's 10x more likely any random girl would know an in depth question about gaming then one of those guys.

Lieju:
Yeah, but the thing is, I've been playing video-games for 20 years. But since I have boobs people assume I only got into the hobby recently and only play Farmville.

Aren't boobs required to be a "proper gamer"? I think your problem may not be the boobs, but your failure to grow a scraggly beard to go with them.

I mock, but only to hide the shame, for I cannot grow a beard. Woe is me.

Anybody know the game Jim used at 3:17?

FizzyIzze:
Anybody know the game Jim used at 3:17?

That would be The Last of Us. The multiplayer by the looks of the coloured parts.

xPixelatedx:
There are fake people on both sides, Jim. Lets not pretend that no one anywhere has ever pretended to like something to fit in with a group; gender has nothing to do with it.

That said men are the biggest offenders and I am not even making an alternate-universe parody, I really mean it. The biggest most casual crowd in gaming is, by far, the dude-bro crowd: the crowd you just mentioned fixated with CoD. It's 10x more likely any random girl would know an in depth question about gaming then one of those guys.

That's the thing, "posers" do exist, and in all sections of life. It has absolutely nothing to do with gender, and everything with the desire to either fit in or be cool.

The question though is "Does it really matter?" Sure it is annoying when people fake interest to be accepted, but a part of that is that they just want to be accepted and I don't see anything wrong with that. It's only when people take it too far that it really crosses the line, but to be honest outside of school age, when does that even happen?

I get it!

But you seem a little late to the party on this one, unless some more of that girl gamer stuff has happened lately. Has it? Have I missed something?

xPixelatedx:
There are fake people on both sides, Jim. Lets not pretend that no one anywhere has ever pretended to like something to fit in with a group; gender has nothing to do with it.

That said men are the biggest offenders and I am not even making an alternate-universe parody, I really mean it. The biggest most casual crowd in gaming is, by far, the dude-bro crowd: the crowd you just mentioned fixated with CoD. It's 10x more likely any random girl would know an in depth question about gaming then one of those guys.

I thought that in order to be considered a gamer you just had to... y'know... like playing video games?

Vegosiux:

Imp Emissary:

For example, do you know of Stephen Colbert?

I love that guy!

He has a whole show where he put on an act of satire based off people who are very "right" politically. I don't really see how a regular viewer could not tell that he isn't serious, but someone in the Bush administration, in 2006 I think, though his persona was real, and they had him come over to speak at one of their conventions.
:) It was a very funny affair.

Tell me about it, facepalms galore and all that >.>

As for Jim's video, while he does make it obvious that he's making fun of the people who complain about fake geeks(specifically female ones), I'm a bit sad to say the people I've seen actually complain about fake geeks aren't as far off from what Jim is acting like as I'd hope.
It may indeed be a strawman, but straw may be a bit too heavy to compare the weight of the argument to.

There is just a very odd, paranoid, and toxic element to the whole group of people who talk about how bad fake geeks are. Even when they have a specific case where what they say about a girl(or I assume at least at one time, a guy) who is "faking" being a geek, I can't really take the whole thing very seriously. I mean, worse case scenario, someone is trying to get attention. And that's bad because...reasons.

Should I not hear from you, may your time be good.

My main problem is that I simply haven't seen anything like what he talks int he video actually happen. Giving the benefit of doubt, this is either a geographical thing and much more prevalent elsewhere, or he's just plain fucking wrong. Still, I'm totally willing to believe it's a geographical thing.

Maybe because Slovenia, or the Balkans specifically still lives in the past. You're still an outcast if you're a gamer around here. No matter what your gender is. No matter what your job is. I mean what the fuck is wrong with you, you should be out there either making mad money or fucking everything that moves (or making mad money so you can throw it around so that everything that moves will want to fuck you). That's still the mentality here.

xD HA! :) It's not just you. Here in the U.S. we still sadly have a LOT of people like that. xD Hell, that one spokesman for the NRA tried to blame video games for all our gun violence.

As for people complaining about fake geek girls? Just take a look at the pages in this video's thread. You'll see at least a few. And if a feel like ya need more, you can always look up the stuff on Youtube(if you don't mind listing to a serious version of what Jim just did).

IronMit:

Windknight:

stueymon:
While I loved this video, and I fully appreciate this problems exists. I have to wonder, who has actually experienced it?

Male or female, where and how did you experience a "Fake girl gamer" insult?

I can't say I have but that said, I rarely engage in talks ingame and I don't otherwise socialise with people I'd consider ignorant

There was a hilarious case where the editor of a gaming website had a guy be a shit to her because she was wearing a Bioshock Infinite t-shirt. When he tried to tell her how she'd obviously never played the game, she responded by telling him how it ended.

ooo. link? please.

http://www.themarysue.com/rae-johnston-fake-geek-girl-gamer-tweet/

bit of a corrections though - she was a gaming editor on a techsite, so not exactly as I described her.

Therumancer:
Awesome special FX Jim. :)
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I think I can clear up a misconception you have. Sex sells to everyone fairly equally and women can be manipulated by it as much as men. Duke University put out a study recently that you can find with a quick Google search, but you could also just look at a few trends. Take a quick peek at Amazon's top 100 bestsellers on kindle for today(or any day really.) On a personal note, my grandmother, mother, my friend Tim and I all went to see Troy in theaters just because we heard Brad Pitt's luscious bum would be on screen in all it's glory. (Worth the $40.)

Gaming conventions are predominantly attended by heterosexual males. Therefore having a beautiful woman sell something works really well. But the same is true for a gorgeous guy at say, a 50 Shades con.

As for the "touring questions," I find them to be a catch 22. I shouldn't have to prove myself in the first place...but if someone wants to ask me a question, shouldn't it be because they are interested in what I have to say? I find it immensely amusing when a person accuses me of feigning interest in gaming and then tries to prove that by...feigning interest in my opinions about games.

OT: I laughed the whole way through the video. Where do they sell those belt buckles? Going to buy a few for gifts; that way I have an excuse to look down :P

Legion:

That would be The Last of Us. The multiplayer by the looks of the coloured parts. I recognise the inventory, but the red/blue thing I don't, but I did not play the multiplayer myself.

Ah, okay. "Survivors".

Thank you.

An alternative universe where an analogy is going down?

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Andy Shandy:
This video is clearly bullshit.

Are you trying to say that Jonathan "Hot Scoops" Holmes has no talent?!

Shame on you, Jim!

The issue with Jonathan Holmes, star of the hit program "Soda Baby" is that he seems to want to bring up video games at the most inappropriate times just to try to show off. It's like, you're listening to a wonderful bout of life advice or some brilliant plan for a film and he just HAS to bring up video games because he runs around playing them in a tight shirt. It's just obnoxious and offends me personally.

Watching this episode made me realise (and instantly be ashamed of) how defensive I am of my position as a "proper" gamer and nerd.

...I think I need to have a long hard think about what I've become.

Phasmal:

chronobreak:
So, satirize a legitimate concern to delegitimize the people who hold it. Typical propaganda tactic, but you'd have to be a fool not to recognize it for what it is. Don't let this inane misdirection catch you off guard, fellow real gamers. We fight the good fight. Phonies will be called out and ostracized. Deal with it.

Where do I get my Official Nerd stamp/tattoo/passport?
It sure would be easier to be instantly recognisable as one of the True Gamers.

And I notice my male friends are not getting the Nerdish Inquisition, is there some sort of delay for them?
Somebody should be quizzing these guys.

You missed the great pokekid debate? or the 3.0 wars (blood was spilled) or TSR versus White Wolf?

itsausernamewhatofit:

Andy Shandy:
This video is clearly bullshit.

Are you trying to say that Jonathan "Hot Scoops" Holmes has no talent?!

Shame on you, Jim!

The issue with Jonathan Holmes, star of the hit program "Soda Baby" is that he seems to want to bring up video games at the most inappropriate times just to try to show off. It's like, you're listening to a wonderful bout of life advice or some brilliant plan for a film and he just HAS to bring up video games because he runs around playing them in a tight shirt. It's just obnoxious and offends me personally.

Oh godamnit, Soda Baby.

No, hang on, "Zoda Bebe"

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