No Right Answer: Best Revenge-fueled Badass Ever

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Mahoshonen:
Like the stinger at the end, but let's be frank: The Count of Monte Cristo beats everyone else in the "revenge-seeking badass" category.

Agreed. Only The Count fucks over everyone through politics AND violence.

Although if we enter the genre of video games only, Kratos ranks nowhere near Asura. This guy gets beat down repeatedly and keeps coming back. And he has only one emotion called ANGER!!!!!! Its just one epic ragefest.

FoolKiller:

Mahoshonen:
Like the stinger at the end, but let's be frank: The Count of Monte Cristo beats everyone else in the "revenge-seeking badass" category.

Agreed. Only The Count fucks over everyone through politics AND violence.

Although if we enter the genre of video games only, Kratos ranks nowhere near Asura. This guy gets beat down repeatedly and keeps coming back. And he has only one emotion called ANGER!!!!!! Its just one epic ragefest.

Those who have not read the Count of Monte Cristo are still trying to come up with more characters and clever reasons for them.

Those that have are nodding in solemn agreement.

Negatempest:

Mr_Terrific:

Negatempest:
Close, so close, but you missed one key moment at the beginning of God of War 2. Kratos starts destroying Athena's City because, reasons? Only after his rampage of the city does Zeus come to take his power away. Than Kratos goes on his blood rage because of the betrayal of Zeus of taking Kratos powers away.

From which the only reason Kratos lost his powers was because he was destroying Athena's main city, the same Athena who apologized for Kratos' suffering that she could not fix by helping him achieve god hood. Which is why fans of the GoW games know that GoW1 is the far superior game to the rest of the games. Because GoW2 made him into a thoughtless revenge seeking monster for actions he himself caused....again.

You are kidding right? The reasons is HE'S THE GOD OF WAR!(<<<----exclamation in case the caps don't do it) He replaced the previous one who was stomping on Athena's temples in the first game.

And the Gods betray Kratos because they feared him. He killed one of theirs. They even said it in the game. That's not something I made up.

And since you clearly paid little attention to any of the GoW titles, I won't ruin the ending of 2, the middle and end of 3, any of the handheld titles, or the end of GoWA which all prove you wrong.

He's not out randomly killing people. There's reasons and the game tells you those reasons during the cutscenes. It's your own fault if you choose to ignore them.

So your explanation for the way Kratos acted in GoW2, is by his actions in the games that came after GoW2. That makes no sense at all whatsoever. It's the Kingdom Hearts franchise problem again. Playing different games on different platforms to justify the actions in the previous games. There was GoW1 and GoW2 before the other games, there is no explanation between those games on the justifiable reason Kratos goes on a rampage in Rhodes. Yes he was angry at the Gods for not removing the nightmares, but that was all pent up guilt of his own making that he did not want to let go. He was blindly hating the world until his Dad had to step in, than did Kratos start focusing on killing the Gods in general. It weakens him as a great character that was built in GoW1.

I still don't understand your confusion. You find out why Kratos is rampaging as soon as you boot the game. You don't need to play GoW3 to know that Kratos is the God of War. He makes wars. That's his role early in the second game. My reference to GoW1 was simply a reminder that the God of War makes wars, which is why War is stomping around Athena's temples and killing her followers. Whos knows why the gods do what they do? Once Kratos becomes the God of War after 2, it's now his job to make with the wars. Nearly every depiction of War/Ares has him waging some sort of war. Why should Kratos be any different.

Shortly after Zeus strips him of his power, Athena explains why it happened. If you played the game and payed attention, we probably wouldnt' be having this conversation...lol. Again, they fear Kratos because he did something no one has ever done. He killed a God, which put the fear in Zeus.

Also, the games are all connected telling one long story. There is your justification. It would be stupid for Kratos to start a new story without a resolution to his previous story. The notion that stories must conclude with each new platform is ridiculous.

Revenge-fueled rampages? This looks like a job for Eren Jaeger

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Look at that. The face says it all and he rarely breaks that expression. The guy went on a roaring rampage of revenge for the parents of a girl he didn't even know at the time!

Okay, you saved it with that final word. XD

Jenvas1306:
Stelio!
Stelio Kontos!
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he is so badass that he became popular even he appears only so rarely as a side character...

Wait he was in more than one American Dad? Why has no one told me!!

He's not driven by revenge though.

Also he wouldn't have that following if it weren't for his song (which is really good).

I have an idea for a sequel

The Bride (from Kill Bill) vs. Django

Best Revenge Fueled Badass from a Tarantino movie.

Ergh, two characters that both sum up "childishly serious". Wolverine's character is fifty layers of "let's make him more gritty and realistic" in decades of comic book writing, while Kratos should've just became god-Nemesis in the second one and got it over with. I vote Asura, whose revenge-fuelled rage is literally his power source in a battle against almost every mythical being in his universe. He does this without saying "bub", even once, and without mashing an incapacitated soldier into pulp for a key in his freaking POCKET.

RatherDashing89:

Seracen:

I agree with the above posts, however. I would love to see Gutz/Gatsu and Inigo Montoya enter the debate. The only reason I would omit Batman is b/c Batman wins at everything, even "losing." Therefore, using him in an argument is unfair.

Also, I'd argue Batman isn't so much out for revenge--his parent's death just put crime into perspective for him and gave him impetus to move forward. Also, Batman stories put way too much focus on the death of his parents given how little it actually has to do with him. Other superheroes endured far worse tragedy, and their tragedies are much more connected to their calling. Superman being the last of his kind and Peter Parker being directly involved in his uncle's death being the two foremost examples. There's no reason the Wayne family should be anything more than a footnote in his origin story.

Or Kyle Ranier, for that matter. He finds his girlfriend chopped up in his fridge, and he DOESN'T go insane with the GL ring?! That is some monumental self-control there.

Blade too, plenty of jacked up crap in his life; although it's tough to recall what's canon with him anymore, haha...

That was some pretty manly shoulder hair right there

Where's Batman?
The Punisher?
Adam Jensen?
MAX PAYNE?

I registered just for this, cause that debate was ridiculously lacking.

Frank Castle, The Punisher is the ultimate revenge driven badass.

He's essentially Batman with testicles. He has no super powers, no incredible bank account, no genius level intellect... just insane levels of righteous vengeance. That's his power - his devotion to killing evil people for being evil. He is Chaotic Good personified.

Hell, the villain for this film is just as valid a candidate and I'd say even more so.

DVS BSTrD:
Fuck me but how did I forget Indigo Montoya?

Wolverine never stood a chance against Kratos in that regard.

I think Alex Mercer from Prototype could be a contestant though. I mean, at first he just wants to know wtf is going on; but once he does realize it, he goes berserk. Of course, his preferred method of learing stuff is literally beating people to a pulp and eating them.

Wait, so the best revenge fueled badass ever has to be loveable? I call shenanigans regarding the setup.

Also, I'm not sure which is creepier, a man with claw gloves wearing a kirby shirt or a man with no shirt making my videos no longer work appropriate... haha.

Crazie_Guy:

RogueportJack:
Oh please, take your Batmans and Kratos's and Wolverine's. The true best revenge seeking badass is none other than Edmond Dantes.

The Count wins by so many miles the rest might as well have not even stepped off the starting line. No contest to see here, everyone move along.

Bonus points if it's this version:
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This. +1 for referencing Gankutsou-one of the most badass adaptations of the Count. Only a pleb would rank somebody like Wolverine or Kratos as "great" revenge fueled characters. True, genuine, vengeance (like the Count brilliantly demonstrates) is a slow, painful, humiliating and ironic process. It's about destroying your enemy in ever sense of the word: physically, mentally, philosophically and most importantly....slowly.

Wolverine and Kratos? Please.

Mahoshonen:
Like the stinger at the end, but let's be frank: The Count of Monte Cristo beats everyone else in the "revenge-seeking badass" category.

Forgetting Asura from Asura's are you? The one who BEAT UP BUDDHIST GOD just because he made his daughter cry. Although, that should probably under "Best Vengenance Seeking Father"

Darth_Payn:

Aptspire:

RogueportJack:
Oh please, take your Batmans and Kratos's and Wolverine's. The true best revenge seeking badass is none other than Edmond Dantes.

Probably one of the earliest revenge seekers :)
Also, manboobs?
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How does the picture of Adam Jensen fit in to the debate? Is it because he was itching for vengeance on the mercs who messed up Sarif Industries in HR's prologue?

OT: Between the two choices of this episode, Kratos stopped being about revenge when his first game ended, then from the 2nd game on, he was a violent psychopath who'd kill everything in existence for a Klondike Bar. Wolverine has his vengeful moments, but he stands for a lot more than that now that he's also an Avenger and getting the X-Men back to their "school for the gifted" roots. Shame that Cyclops' character got shafted in the process.

It is generally accepted as a way of saying "I never asked for this."

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds. No superpowers to help him. He starts off being extremely petty about his revenge by skirting the Alliance's laws and stealing from Alliance targets as much as possible. Then he ups it to hiding a massively wanted pair of fugitives from the Alliance and spitting in their eye about it any chance he gets. Finally he tops it off by destroying an entire Alliance fleet by leading the results of their evil mind control experiments into the middle of said fleet, kicks the shit out of their best wet-work specialist, and exposes their monstrosity to humanity.

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