Escapist Podcast: 103: Activision Blizzard & Phil Fish

103: Activision Blizzard & Phil Fish

This week, we discuss Activision Blizzard purchasing themselves back from Vivendi. We also talk about CGI vs practical effects in films and the Phil Fish fallout.

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Yay Janelle is back!

Only a few minutes in, but just wanted to express how good it is to hear Janelle on the podcast again. I hope she can stick around!

I completely agree with Janelle about Twitter. I don't know what it is about it that brings out such bile, but professionals who abuse it just need to grow the fuck up. I have no respect for people who blow up like that in a public forum.

While some things Janelle said were correct, I feel that she's only going on about what happened on twitter and not the underlying cause of the situation. Beer essentially said that indie game makers are slaves to the "gaming journalism" companies and that if journalists want an interview or quote, the indie scene damn right most obey the journalists commands or their games get absolutely no coverage. And on Fish's side, you have a man that gets hate from everything. And we're not talking about 'You suck, you made a shitty game' type of hate, we're talking down right atrocious behavior. I may get flames, but we're talking about threats like 'You're an asshole, you should die in a fire' or 'Go choke on a bullet, you disgusting cretin' to horrible, horrible stuff such as 'You have a pretty child, how would you like it if I raped your child in front of you as you're tied down with two broken knees' or 'I know where you live, I can easily kill your family right now'.

There is a difference between hate-criticism and down right illegal action taken upon you and your family. The incident on twitter was absolutely stupid, but looking at the causes is what needs to be done. Beer's "entitlement complex" was downright stupid of him, and Fish's reaction to it was not smart, but the causes for them is all in the gaming industry at a whole. They're a symptom of a nasty institution, which goes deeper than just 'stop sending death threats'. How do you stop it? Sending the usernames of the threateners to the police?

yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

shiajun:
yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

That keeps happening to me as well, but I use Opera, so I thought it was just me.

Also, who is this Janelle person? I'm new-ish to the podcast and her energy is... It certainly is.

shiajun:
PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

I reported this problem to the IT team last week, and they've been working to try and track down the problem with this glitch and why it seems to happen for some people and not others. If you could, please hit up our bug report form with info on what browser you're using, whether if you're watching the podcast in high quality, etc., so they have more info on who's having the problem.

Great PodCat.
Also, about the Geese thing.


0_0 Geese are evil.

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It's cuddly! It's intelligent! It can kill you anywhere! It's Octobear!

shirkbot:

shiajun:
yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

That keeps happening to me as well, but I use Opera, so I thought it was just me.

Also, who is this Janelle person? I'm new-ish to the podcast and her energy is... It certainly is.

She is the Content Partnerships Manager. Also, if I remember correctly from her other times on the podcat, she is also one of the escapist's first stops for legal advice.

She is also know as the office "Genki girl"(hyper happy lady).

& is back!

As a professional musician let me assure you, Williams' score will always be big themes; that's what John Williams does. (And that's all he does, but he does it really well.) Fear not, one thing about SWVII is guaranteed to be good.

Imp Emissary:

shirkbot:

shiajun:
yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

That keeps happening to me as well, but I use Opera, so I thought it was just me.

Also, who is this Janelle person? I'm new-ish to the podcast and her energy is... It certainly is.

She is the Content Partnerships Manager. Also, if I remember correctly from her other times on the podcat, she is also one of the escapist's first stops for legal advice.

She is also know as the office "Genki girl"(hyper happy lady).

You remember correctly. She is a lawyer.

Another great episode.
But the change of host is causing the podcast to morph into a more controlled beast.
I mean, apart from the Bear/Shark diversion you guys stayed on topic. This will not do.

Good to have Janelle back, always appreciate her energy. As always good podcat.
captcha: never gonna give you up.

Janelle is back! You can just feel energy flowing!
Awesome podcat as usual guys.

If you want some historical accuracy, ninjas wore royal blue to blend in with the sky as they hopped over rooftops

there is no record of them wearing black, only stage productions did this to hide them against a black backdrop.

My first big game crush was probably also in Final Fantasy 4 (released as Final Fantasy 2 in North America). When Rydia came back after her time with the summoned monsters, she was just hot. Well, as hot as an early 16 bit girl could be.

LordOfInsanity:
While some things Janelle said were correct, I feel that she's only going on about what happened on twitter and not the underlying cause of the situation. Beer essentially said that indie game makers are slaves to the "gaming journalism" companies and that if journalists want an interview or quote, the indie scene damn right most obey the journalists commands or their games get absolutely no coverage.

I agree with this. Like Fish or not, Beer was just as much of a jackass in this sitiation. In fact, Beer went out of his way to start things and, quite likely targeted Fish not just because Fish is a known indie developer but also because he knew how Fish would possibly react. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe there's any excuse for Fish's comments about Beer killing himself, but to throw everything at Fish's feet is ignoring a large part of the equation.

shirkbot:

shiajun:
yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

That keeps happening to me as well, but I use Opera, so I thought it was just me.

Also, who is this Janelle person? I'm new-ish to the podcast and her energy is... It certainly is.

Happens to as well on chrome.
Please fix this, it's quite annoying since my pc and mouse aren't always within reach and I have to skip around 10 seconds to make it work again.

WMDogma:

shiajun:
PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

I reported this problem to the IT team last week, and they've been working to try and track down the problem with this glitch and why it seems to happen for some people and not others. If you could, please hit up our bug report form with info on what browser you're using, whether if you're watching the podcast in high quality, etc., so they have more info on who's having the problem.

Done! :) Let's hope it gets resolved. It's not a big thing, and a simple click at 10:55 does the trick, but it is kind of odd thing.

I over adjust brightness in games.

I hate missing items on the ground, switches or entirely corridors because it was 'barely visible'. The fact that the game is made easier is a necessary consequence of my actions. If I could somehow brighten the environment but still keep the enemies and traps as hidden as the difficulty intended...I'd be all for that.

Beer did have valid criticism to Phil Fish: Asking for promotions from the press for your game, and when the press wants your opinion, you have some obligation to give it. It is not a one-way street.

bdcjacko:
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shiajun:
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IllumInaTIma:
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Yay! I am so happy to finally be back! Four+ months away for health issues and surgery was four months way to long. Thanks a billion for all the well wishes back. You guys are the best <3'

Eppy (Bored):
& is back!

That's me! And here I was, all worried that my REAL name would be forgotten ;) Thanks to you, crisis averted!

Fuloqwam:
...I hope she can stick around!

I have no intention of going anywhere for the foreseeable future. After 4 years at The Escapist, you might just be stuck with me, because...

Revolutionary:

captcha: never gonna give you up.

;)

Imp Emissary:

shirkbot:

shiajun:
yaaaaay! Janelle is here!

PD: Please, please, please address the 10:54 glitch that just doesn't seem to go away.

That keeps happening to me as well, but I use Opera, so I thought it was just me.

Also, who is this Janelle person? I'm new-ish to the podcast and her energy is... It certainly is.

She is the Content Partnerships Manager. Also, if I remember correctly from her other times on the podcat, she is also one of the escapist's first stops for legal advice.

She is also know as the office "Genki girl"(hyper happy lady).

Well thank you. That was very informative. I was mostly just curious if she was always like that. I'm never sure what to do when I encounter people with that much zest for life, be it in person or in media, but knowing it's a consistent state of being makes it easier to process.

Edit: Speaking of, she posted right above me. Hello ma'am, a pleasure to make your acquaintance. I look forward to future podcasts filled with your slightly terrifying level of enthusiasm.

Yay, my favourite podcat host, Janelle - Harbinger of Gifts!

s0osleepie:
I have no intention of going anywhere for the foreseeable future. After 4 years at The Escapist, you might just be stuck with me

... Unless you get into a confrontation with a bear alongside somebody bigger than you.

Bears freak me out. As an Aussie, I find them hard to comprehend. The human part of me says "That is obviously one dangerous furry mofo", but the aussie part of me says "Isnt it a bit of a waste to have your dangerous animals in such a large package? You crazy foreigners seem to have an efficiency problem with your deadly wildlife."

Also, Ive decided that this is what happened to Susan. She was obviously eaten by a bear... just, like, a tiny bit at a time so that she had time to say goodbye on the podcat, make the necessary arrangements, put Tito in charge, etc, over the course of a few weeks. (Its possible I havent had enough sleep today.)

Inner thoughts of a bear
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but hey I always thought it's more about a situation, imho you can't really scare off a starving bear (without a proper weapon)

You know, I recognized the Futurama quote Phil Fish said, because of it assumed he meant it sarcastically and didn't really mean he want this Beer fellow to kill himself. But here is the rub, I have often wanted to use that quote myself in the same manner. But the thing is, I know most people that read it would not know it is a bender quote, won't know the context, and think I am some super vain asshole that want lesser men to kill themselves because they don't live up to my impossible standards. And that is why I never use it.

I think I just got a bit more excited than I was supposed to when I saw that Janelle is back.

Good episode although I was disappointed that the guys seemed very uh... nervous about discussing their videogame character crushes. I mean most gamer guys I know go on for hours about their gaming waifus.

Sad to hear no one mentioned Tifa from FF7 or some of the guys being like Janelle and mentioning liking Zelda from Ocarina of Time or perhaps other fan favorite characters of that game like Malon, Saria etc.

Or even Marin that sings ballad of the windfish from Zelda Link's Awakening.

Anyhoo I agree with Janelle about the earrings part... Link did it and so did Cloud in FF7 so it was a popular "cool" 90s look for videogames.

Please keep having Janelle on the show and if possible have Ma'idah with you guys as well.

Holy crap a beartopus is terrifying. That's a horror beyond horrors.

Totally going in my next D&D Campaign.

MrCollins:
you guys stayed on topic. This will not do.

Challenge Accepted.

Caffiene:
Bears freak me out. As an Aussie, I find them hard to comprehend. The human part of me says "That is obviously one dangerous furry mofo"...

Pepsik:
Inner thoughts of a bear...

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murder.

So great that Janelle's back, woohoo!!!! :D

First off, about the octopus-bear cross... You guys are waaay late, but this was released a few years ago:
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For the record, it's Skyrim concept art that was dubbed the "Squibear" for the longest time because of the mammoth's tusk. (Just thought it was appropriate here ^_^)

I could sooooo relate to what Justin talked about with Aerie in Baldur's Gate 2. BG2 was one the first big RPGs I played and I was a teen at the time. I quickly become entranced by the game's deep RPG mechanics and interesting story. But I was especially surprised when one day, while adventuring in the forest, one of my party members came up to me and offered me a single red flower, a crimson rhodelia. Yup, Anomen was my first pixel boyfriend! Let's just say that when that last chapter rolled around, I too was running around Athkatla, grief-stricken, looking for a cure, something, anything! =D
Since then a lot of pixel men have held a special place in my gaming history: Anomen Delryn, Xan, Carth Onasi, Atton Rand, Kian Alvane, Sky (Jade Empire), Kaidan Alenko, Alistair Theirin... You'll notice a lot of them are BioWare characters.

Caffiene:

Bears freak me out. As an Aussie, I find them hard to comprehend. The human part of me says "That is obviously one dangerous furry mofo", but the aussie part of me says "Isnt it a bit of a waste to have your dangerous animals in such a large package? You crazy foreigners seem to have an efficiency problem with your deadly wildlife."

They got nothin' on our drop-bears. Claws and teeth in a tiny, furry, deadly, aerial package....

One of you guys stole my joke, word for word!

Cheeky!

The proof!

omega 616:
What the fuck is it with gamers and the phrase "go kill yourself"? It's so fucking juvenile, it's not like anybody actually follows that order and if they do it's never 'cos of it.

I'm going to start saying the opposite to people I argue with on the internet, "you know what, just go hug a puppy!".

Anyway, if you don't want your art being criticized, you're in the wrong profession my friend! "I want people to watch my movie and like it, if they don't they should kill themselves".

Guy seems a little insecure to me.

 

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