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2xDouble:
First of all, except for Eminem's, none of those are given names. They are stage names, taken as the person entered into entertainment. Secondly: Earl, Dean, and Marshal were names in English before they were titles, and each have alternate meanings.

Not really for Earl and Marshall.
Earl has been a title of Nobility since the saxon invasion (spelled Eorl prior to the Norman invasion) and a given name since the 19th century.
I don't know when Marshall became a given name (didn't even know it was one until this thread), but as a title it's derived from the germanic words for "Horse" and "Servant", and has a long history of a word originally used to describe the most important member of a noble household, gradually going through numerous meanings (all more prestigious than the one before) and ending up as the title of the supreme leader of a ruler's military forces during the middle ages.

I get the feeling Marshal was one of those names that became a title due to someone being particularly good or memorable at the role that the ruler's lineage continued to call people who filled the role the name of the guy they were used to filling the role... and it stuck.

Just like when someone leaves a company and they did a particular job really well and were the only person who did the job well, their replacement will be called "the new Bob".

So this King was like "Look, the last guy who did this was called Marshal and he was damn good at it and everyone called him Marshal instead of Lord General because he was just such an awesome dude so I'm just gonna call you Marshal to save on confusion".

Yeah... I have no way of backing that up...

Either way, nice work America, with letting a religion get directly involved in your judicial system. Really living up to the colonists' ideals of when they left the British Isles - not being sarcastic either, remember the Jesuits left because they wanted MORE religion in government.

From the Spaghetti Warehouse in Syracuse it really should rename itself to Meatball Factory. For one, the spaghetti is only above average, but the meatballs are to die for. Plus the website is meatballs.com. Secondly, the one in Syracuse is actually an old factory (I couldn't tell you what they did there though) decorated with signs from the 1940s. And yes Paul, they do have a 15 layer lasagna which is essentially three regular lasagnas stacked on each other. Yeah, that's pretty good. Damnit, now I'm hungry for the warehouse again.

The one in Columbus, Ohio (the largest) is actually in an old warehouse. A Warehouse for ice. An Icehouse, I guess they called it. Whatever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Warehouse

2xDouble:

dariuseng:
Does that mean my last name, which is Engineer, is illegal. I need to go get a lawyer.

If it was your FIRST name, yes.

Clankenbeard:
So, there seem to be a lot of people violating this "no titles as names" rule. I can name a couple off the top of my head:
Prince (or the artist formerly known as)
Duke Elligton
Earl Campbell
Dean Martin
Marshall Mathers (though he does go by Eminem instead of his law enforcement moniker)

Methinks this judge needs a pride obliterating bitch slap from Judge Rhinehold (who is not a judge but is named as one).

First of all, except for Eminem's, none of those are given names. They are stage names, taken as the person entered into entertainment. Secondly: Earl, Dean, and Marshal were names in English before they were titles, and each have alternate meanings.

Furthermore, you can name yourself whatever you want, particularly as a pseudonym. It's only parents that can't give their child a distinct title as its legal name, for mostly the reasons Paul mentioned. Incidentally, any medical professional's title (such as "Doctor" or "Nurse"), any religious title (such as "Father" or "Rabbi"), and any military title (such as "Sergeant" or "Captain") are also illegal as first names.

Then there was Major Major Major Major from Catch 22...

2xDouble:

dariuseng:
Does that mean my last name, which is Engineer, is illegal. I need to go get a lawyer.

If it was your FIRST name, yes.

Clankenbeard:
So, there seem to be a lot of people violating this "no titles as names" rule. I can name a couple off the top of my head:
Prince (or the artist formerly known as)
Duke Elligton
Earl Campbell
Dean Martin
Marshall Mathers (though he does go by Eminem instead of his law enforcement moniker)

Methinks this judge needs a pride obliterating bitch slap from Judge Rhinehold (who is not a judge but is named as one).

First of all, except for Eminem's, none of those are given names. They are stage names, taken as the person entered into entertainment. Secondly: Earl, Dean, and Marshal were names in English before they were titles, and each have alternate meanings.

1. True enough for Edward Kenned "Duke" Ellington and Prince. But not so for Earl Chrisitan Campbell and Dean Martin (born Dino Paul Crocetti and changed it). Clearly you are right that stage names should not suffer the same scrutiny as a given legal name.

2. Does time enter into it? If a title evolves from a name, shouldn't that make the word as a name no longer an option? If "President" were changed to "George" tomorrow, no one could name their kid George, moving forward. I would argue (but not too aggressively) that Earl, Dean, and Marshal should still make the list. If there is the possibility of having a Marhsal Marshall, Earl Earl, Dean Dean, or Judge Judge then it merits weeding out.

I've been to Spaghetti Warehouse in Downtown Tulsa.
It's amazing.

Clankenbeard:
1. True enough for Edward Kenned "Duke" Ellington and Prince. But not so for Earl Chrisitan Campbell and Dean Martin (born Dino Paul Crocetti and changed it). Clearly you are right that stage names should not suffer the same scrutiny as a given legal name.

Huh, I didn't know that about Earl Campbell. Clearly I couldn't be arsed to actually look it up... heh. I'm gonna have to stand by Dean Martin, though. He changed it himself, stage name or not.

2. Does time enter into it? If a title evolves from a name, shouldn't that make the word as a name no longer an option? If "President" were changed to "George" tomorrow, no one could name their kid George, moving forward. I would argue (but not too aggressively) that Earl, Dean, and Marshal should still make the list. If there is the possibility of having a Marhsal Marshall, Earl Earl, Dean Dean, or Judge Judge then it merits weeding out.

I'm not a lawyer, merely a knower of useless trivia. I would say it does, to an extent, unless the name has alternate meaning or contexts that can be used to specify and identify a single individual without additional context. To use the same example: "President" has no such distinction (by definition it is a nonspecific term), but "George" most certainly does.

On a related note: Finding an Earl Earl or Marshall Marshal are highly unlikely, due to the titles being severely disused, but there are, in fact, a number of Dean Dean's. The surname "Dean" is quite common, at least in America, and the title is earned by a surprisingly large number of people. Additionally, the first name Dean has been on the rise since the 40's (with rising popularity of Italo-American culture... and whatever Jersey Shore is. heh), so it is entirely possible (though very unlikely) to have a Dean Dean Dean. Judge, I believe, has been officially disallowed as a first name, but definitely exists as a surname (though no Judge's I know would consider studying law...).

YOu?! But that's me!

In the late 1800s and early 1900s the name Captain was popular for boys. When did the law about not letting people have a title as their first name come into being? Oh, right, there is no such law. The judge in this case is letting their religious bias sway their decision, and has handed down a decision that is obviously illegal and unconstitutional. How did this even become a case? Who would bring this to court? Oh, that's right... dammit, Tennessee...

Lever:
Mainer here, Bowdoinham is pronounced Bow-din-ham, dont ask me why...

Fellow Mainer. First response: "Bowdenham!" (or "Boat-nam! if you're from the County), followed by "Woo, we're on Feed Dump!", then followed by "Wait, what'd we do?", THEN followed by "... oh yeah, that." Ah well, better luck next time, Vacationland. o_o b

LoL Does no one know anyone named Marquis? or Earl/e????
THOSE are titles... and yet their name validity is allowed!

2xDouble:

On a related note: Finding an Earl Earl or Marshall Marshal are highly unlikely, due to the titles being severely disused, but there are, in fact, a number of Dean Dean's. The surname "Dean" is quite common, at least in America, and the title is earned by a surprisingly large number of people. Additionally, the first name Dean has been on the rise since the 40's (with rising popularity of Italo-American culture... and whatever Jersey Shore is. heh), so it is entirely possible (though very unlikely) to have a Dean Dean Dean. Judge, I believe, has been officially disallowed as a first name, but definitely exists as a surname (though no Judge's I know would consider studying law...).

Here you go, a wiki link ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Judge,_Baron_Judge) to the soon to be ex-Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales and wonderfully named Igor Judge, he was incorrectly known by some as Judge Judge and also, just to wrap up as many titles as possible, he is Baron Judge, The Right Honourable The Lord Judge. Nominative determinism at its best!
Does this mean that all the slappers named Chastity, indecisive Constance's etc. will have to change their names?

shrekfan246:
We are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, highly amused by that song.

Messiah may be a title, but it's still not as bad as the names my mother's hippie friend gave to her kids back in the day: "Phoenix Rising" and "Spiral Walking-In-Balance". I wonder if they still go by those names...

xD I kind of like Phoenix Rising.

There was an Archbishop of the Phillippines named Cardinal Sin (as opposed to his brother, Venial Sin?)

Well, I guess Prince can go back to whatever that symbol he used. Good thing Duke Ellington is dead.

I've heard stock songs that were better than that. How did it become a fad?

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