Escape to the Movies: Kick Ass 2

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Kick Ass 2

MovieBob gets down and dirty in this week's review of Kick Ass 2.

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I really didn't like the first one. I really did try (saw it at the cinema and everything), but as someone who doesn't find gore, violence or swearing all that entertaining I think I'm just not its audience. I'll probably still rent this though as I thought Chloe Moretz's Hit Girl was entertaining and well played so should be worth a watch just for that.

Sweeeeeet!

Been looking forward to this one and it makes me really happy to hear that it doesn't disappoint. I'll watch it as soon as I get a chance.

Also, Mother Russia seems to be one of the coolest badasses to hit the screens in a long time.

Oh hey look, another person on the internet taking a pop at Man of Steel for no good reason. That's what you became for a moment then Bob. Not a respected member of a field, another person on the internet.

Also, you've sold me on the DVD release of this. Thought it looked good, glad it is.

Dave to old to be in high school is really going to bug me unless I can come up with a decent excuse for it, I wish it wasn't mentioned. Otherwise a decent review.

I doubt saying "Motherfucker" 3 times over the course of a video qualifies for an age gate.
(I mean this is the same website that has Zero Punctuation and Jimquisition every week...)

Well, I'm glad to see that Kick Ass 2 is not shit. I would have gone to see it anyway, but at least now I'll feel better about it.

Toilet:
Dave to old to be in high school is really going to bug me unless I can come up with a decent excuse for it, I wish it wasn't mentioned.

Seconded. It's like when someone points out...

Once heard.

Really glad to hear that the movie does not follow the comic very well. Really didn't like the comic. To needlessly brutal and not fun in the slightest.

I wasn't able to get through Kick Ass for some reason. Maybe I'll try it again. This looks like a rare sequel that's worth watching.

Not advertising your book at the end of your shows anymore, Bob? Yahtzee advertised his books for about two months each.

In fact I'm about to order Jam. Mmmmm...jam....

An age gate for a few uses of the word "motherfucker"? I get that it's a deviation from Bob's usual tendency to bleep swears, but that just seems unnecessary. Surely the disclaimer at the start of the video would have been perfectly adequate on its own. What I'm getting at is I had to press four buttons more than usual to access this video, and must now press many more buttons to convey my dissatisfaction.

It's the first time I've seen the age restriction appear on Bob videos.

Glad to know the sequel is just as good as the first which I may watched (depend what my bro want to watch, this or Elysium).

From what Bob describing it being different from the source, I'm getting a feeling the violence will be different (won't be gory in the comicbook which is really gory but it will still be violent).

"A good movie to end summer with"? Well, summer's not ending anytime soon. (The individual weeks before January, April, July, and October are season transitions, technically.) Even if you consider "summer" as "summer break", even colleges like mine still have a couple of weeks left of summer break.

Could someone explain to me why Bob and other people in such industries consider seasons to happen earlier, including the "Christmas season" lasting throughout December and arguably dragging winter back with it?

Cracked.com wrote an article about why superman does not work in the modern world. You MovieBob should read it (AngryJoe too). Basically the only way superman can survive and not become some anachronic character is to change. Times changes as people do. So does the conception of what a hero should behave. Also the movie was not that bad.

Why not like the first Kick-Ass?!

Because Hitgirl was a pathetically pandering non-entity of a character. The movie was great till she showed up and grabed the reigns. "Look, she's being violent, and says shock inducing words like 'cock' and 'cunt'. Oh you... Little girls shouldn't be like that."

Her whole fucking gimmick left me cringing.

The main point of the Kickass comics was to shit on the characters. The author puts them through all this horrible stuff because the series isn't about superheroes, it's about consequences. Dave becomes a superhero and loses everything as a result. You can say that it's ripping on all the people that want to be superheroes, and it should, because while wanting to be a superhero is pretty much natural, actually becoming one is stupid beyond reason. Saying that the comics aren't good because they're too bitter isn't good reasoning. They're supposed to be bitter because the entire point is that they're bringing reality into a fairly childish fantasy. The reason that the characters are all stupid is because one would have to be stupid (or suicidal, I suppose) in order to dress up and pick a fight with mobsters in the real world. Now obviously if every comic did that, it would suck, but one comic doing it? Where's the issue? If you want to say Kickass sucks, point out the reliance on shock value, or the schizophrenic tone, but saying "I don't like the comic because it's honest" is just... silly. I'm also not sure where these accusations of racism and misogyny come from. I've only read two works of Millar, but both of them featured strong female leads who put most of the men to shame, and I must be missing the racism part because I'm drawing a blank.

Anyway, good to see the film is alright. I can imagine that there are a few scenes that won't fit in, and that's fine. As long as it makes me want to see Kickass 3, it's doing an alright job.

I find the bit about Millar having contempt for super heroes interesting because I have felt that for a while now from many angles, not just Millar. I think the absolute worst thing was the "I'm a geek" speech from the second Fantastic Four movie, which I'm told was in the actual Ultimates comic book. I could not believe they would do something that transparently pandering, but they did.

This kind of contempt for the audience is most rampant in the horror genre. If you like horror movies, then movies like Funny Games, Rubber, and Cabin in the Woods actively hate you and would like to feed you poisoned turkey just to make you stop watching. To the film makers who make such movies that basically voice a desire to do something else, I say, just stop making these awful, condescending, contemptuous movies. Go back to porn.

The theater I'm going to see this at today is listed as Kick A 2 because the dude who owns the theater chain is a mormon and there is total separation between church and state in Utah.

Ultra-Chronic Monstah:
The main point of the Kickass comics was to shit on the characters. The author puts them through all this horrible stuff because the series isn't about superheroes, it's about consequences. Dave becomes a superhero and loses everything as a result. You can say that it's ripping on all the people that want to be superheroes, and it should, because while wanting to be a superhero is pretty much natural, actually becoming one is stupid beyond reason. Saying that the comics aren't good because they're too bitter isn't good reasoning. They're supposed to be bitter because the entire point is that they're bringing reality into a fairly childish fantasy. The reason that the characters are all stupid is because one would have to be stupid (or suicidal, I suppose) in order to dress up and pick a fight with mobsters in the real world. Now obviously if every comic did that, it would suck, but one comic doing it? Where's the issue? If you want to say Kickass sucks, point out the reliance on shock value, or the schizophrenic tone, but saying "I don't like the comic because it's honest" is just... silly. I'm also not sure where these accusations of racism and misogyny come from. I've only read two works of Millar, but both of them featured strong female leads who put most of the men to shame, and I must be missing the racism part because I'm drawing a blank.

Anyway, good to see the film is alright. I can imagine that there are a few scenes that won't fit in, and that's fine. As long as it makes me want to see Kickass 3, it's doing an alright job.

I think I agree with Ultra. I've read the comics 1 & 2 and never felt hate towards superheroes. I felt it tries to answer the question made in the first comic: "why nobody tries to be a super-hero in the real world?" And it answer well in a over the top pulp kind of way.

The first movie lost me when the love interest was ok with kick-ass lying to her and basically stalking her for the entire movie up to this point, unlike in the book, where she kicked the creep out. Mark Millar does not know how to end a story to save his life, but the "this fantasy bullshit does not work in real life, deal with it, but it's hilarious to watch those morons to fail and still accomplish more than they should" worked well in the comic book.

Man, that Mother Russia chick looks good. Sure hope she wins the show-down.

Is Kick-Ass a freshman in the first movie? If this is 3 years later it makes sense they are in the same high school.

Or all that school missed by Kick-Ass could have had him held back a year.

So in summation: Superman is still a little bitch? Got it. :P

On a more serious note, I've got a rather strange situation dealing with the Kick-Ass franchise. I didn't see it in theatres and a friend of mine kept pestering and pestering rent and watch it once it was out on DVD. Just to troll him, I said it looked terrible and had to be a shitty movie even though I had no basis for this opinion and just really liked getting a rise out of my friend because, even though he knew I was just joking, he still go genuinely upset when I said the movie had to suck. I made a deal with him that if he actually watched Boondock Saints (a movie he hadn't watched yet despite having been out for years before Kick-Ass came out), I'd go ahead and watch Kick-Ass. He fulfilled his end of the bargain so I fulfilled mine and watched Kick-Ass. Here's where the strangeness of my situation comes in: I actually did like the movie, it took it as a fun parody of the comic book movies that seem to be all the rage these days. Yet I convinced myself that I didn't WANT to like it purely because of how I was messing with my friend about it the whole time (and continued to say it was terrible even after seeing it just to keep pissing him off).

So yeah, I've got mixed feelings about the franchise...but they're only mixed because I specifically went out of my way to mix them. :P

Kick-Ass 2 looks pretty good. And I'll say it, Mother Russia looks pretty hot.

This review made me feel bad for liking the first Kick-Ass. That said, I think I'm going to go watch it again. And perhaps see the sequel in theatres, if I get a chance to after Elysium and before summer break ends.

franksands:

I felt it tries to answer the question made in the first comic: "why nobody tries to be a super-hero in the real world?" And it answer well in a over the top pulp kind of way.

I think that's why the first movie didn't work for me. The premise of "superheroes in the real world" is undermined by the pulpy tone. It annoyed me that the first act of the first movie was dedicated to that epiphany as if it were some incredibly clever revelation that nobody had explored before. Then, once the ultra-violence starts, it's so over the top that the initial question loses all meaning. At no point in the movie do they actually step into the Real World. It was, like, not quite self-aware enough to pull off its self-awareness...

Sorry, Bob, not a fan.

I preferred Super... and Watchmen... and Batman Begins... and Mystery Men... and Unbreakable... and Taxi Driver... and

I'm still hesitant to see this, because the comic left me with such a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that I don't think I can shake.

The most memorable part of kick ass one for me was when kickass was helping a dude being beated up by 2 dudes and kickass intervene but got his ass kicked instead, then one of the thug ask "what's wrong with you man, you gonna die for someone you don't even know?"

Of which kickass reply "what's wrong with me? 2 dudes ganging up on one guy while everyone just watches and you wanna know what's wrong with me?"

I don't know what but that brought a tear to my eyes, maybe it just brought out the idealistic youth I have inside of me which was nurture by disney movies but now buried deep inside by real life practicality.

Wow a age restriction, that's new. Although couldn't Bob just said mother ****er, not the first time he censored out swear words, especially since the dude's name only popped up like what, 3 times at most? Pretty sure I heard the *BLEEP* sound more then that in a escapist video. And since there was nothing more violent then usual in the clips, it felt kinda unnecessary. Not complaining or anything, just saying really.

Here's looking for forward to KA2 though. :)

Looks decent enough, I might give this a try. I enjoyed the first one without it blowing me away. Also, I don't read American comics so I won't have to deal with any preconceived notions.

PS: Defendor was a refreshing entry in the genre, is anything like it, maybe a sequel even, coming out in the foreseeable future?

Tombsite:
Really glad to hear that the movie does not follow the comic very well. Really didn't like the comic. To needlessly brutal and not fun in the slightest.

Absolutely agreed, that book was boring, not shocking and completely unfunny, a long shot from the first volume. I'll quote a better book and leave it at: "Mark Millar licks goats".

Phuctifyno:
The premise of "superheroes in the real world" is undermined by the pulpy tone.

I don't think it's about superheroes in the real world at all. It makes a nod to it and then goes along its merry way. Much like The Boys (which is better in almost all respects btw) they draw the inherent absurdity of superheroes to such an extreme that it becomes its own universe again. By doing so it both celebrates and ridicules the superhero genre at the same time.

I tried multiple times to watch the first one. I never, and I do mean EVER, got to the point of the main character putting on the costume for the first time. Dark comedy is a genre that I can usually appreciate, but the guy jumping off the roof "cause he though he could fly" only to smash horrifically into a car - followed by our main character's mother having a stroke (? I forget if it was that or an embolism [sp?]) and DYING at the breakfast table just made me want to turn it off.

Somehow I kept thinking, "Huh, a dark movie that thinks this kind of stuff is funny? Apparently, I don't get the joke in all this" and I would hit the stop button.

Buuuuuuut, maybe I'll see this one first and that will help....

good. was intending to watch it anyway.

I think the age gate was more for the explicit shots of bloody violence. I know Bob has reviewed movies that have bloody violence in them before... I mean, I can't think of any at the moment, but he must have at some point... but he's never edited them into his reviews, likely because he normally just uses looped footage from green-band trailers.

Retrograde:
Oh hey look, another person on the internet taking a pop at Man of Steel for no good reason. That's what you became for a moment then Bob. Not a respected member of a field, another person on the internet.

Also, you've sold me on the DVD release of this. Thought it looked good, glad it is.

Hmmm... I would think that Man of Steel being an unadulterated piece of crap was a good enough reason to take pop shots at it. I know it certainly ranks high up on my, "Ways How to NOT Make a Film," list. But you're probably right. It's not the movie. It's us.

Toilet:
Dave to old to be in high school is really going to bug me unless I can come up with a decent excuse for it, I wish it wasn't mentioned. Otherwise a decent review.

I'm not familiar with the first movie, but it's possible over the three year period between Hit-girl going from 11 to 14 (entering grade 9) there's a few possibilities such as: Dave could have either gone from grade 9 to grade 12 or grade 10 to grade 13 (in an area where grade 13 is a thing), or he failed a grade from spending too much time hero-ing on the street, or he's on a 'victory lap' (taking extra courses after graduating) to up his grades for university.

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