Remaking the 90s

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Remaking the 90s

While we're remaking everything else from the early 90s, Yahtzee tells us about a few more deserving gems.

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There was actually a Lemmings reboot a few years ago by the guys who make Worms. I don't know if it was any good.

In the 90s I spent as lot of time playing RTS games. Mostly Command and Conquer and StarCraft. If any franchise needed a complete overhaul at this point, it's probably CnC. But I would never trust EA to do it with any level of class or elan. Why bother with effort when we can just punish paying customers by calling it an MMO, right?

I was actually thinking about Diggers earlier on. It's a great little game until your guys start doing their own thing, at which point it all goes to shit.

For me the rule would be "remake shit that was obviously trying to do something that the technology at the time didnt allow creating an end result that managed to be good but could offer much more". The key here is "could offer much more".

A lot of games back then still suck in the controls and interface departments, some games could earn a remake just on that, I tried to play Realms of the Haunted or something like that a few months ago and the controls were abysmal.

Games I would like to see with updated graphics / sound / etc:
XWing / Tie Fighter
Crusader
A *good* remake of the original Alone in the Dark

Good lord, Yahtzee just came up with a single-player game that can actually justify being on the WiiU!

Seriously, where is the remake of The Incredible Toon Machine?

One 90s game I want to see a modern angle on would be Actraiser. Doesn't even have to be an official reboot, since the license I believe is lost somewhere in SqureEnix' catacombs. Just team up Platinum Games or Sony Santa Monica with Fraxis or Kaplyso and have them make an interlocked Devil May Cry/Tropico game.

Yes if there is a god we will get a Blood remake! Also Strife needs some retro love'n too.

I think I speak for everyone when I say the world is ready for more Cyberbots.

Steve the Pocket:
Good lord, Yahtzee just came up with a single-player game that can actually justify being on the WiiU!

I want this game now. Also good excuse to buy Pikmin 3 (and by extension the Wii U)

Also, thanks Yahtzee, you made me momentarily forget I was at work with the "...first ever game to simulate the bureaucracy surrounding incredibly fucked up situations?" line. It felt good.

I just gotta say; that Floor 13 idea seems brilliant. Something I'd actually want to play on the Wii U.

Although a similar game along the lines of Digital: A Love Story would also be neat, but maybe a bit weird and niche. I can't imagine all that many people would like to play a game that would be, in a sense, an office job simulator.

ZippyDSMlee:
Also Strife needs some retro love'n too.

Now there's a name I haven't heard in ages. If we're talking about Doom engine stuff might as well toss Heretic and Hexen on the list too.

I don't have a Wii U, but I'd expect that people spend most of their time looking at the big screen. That should have the document processing in his last game, and the little screen should have the execution scenes. The game should make it easy to look away, while making you conscious of the fact that you aren't looking at the little screen because you don't want to see what's there.

You're spot on about the atmosphere. It was both dark and morbid, but also slighty jovial. If they could get that right, I would definitely buy it.

For those who want to check out Floor 13, it's available on Abandonia.net: http://www.abandonia.com/games/140

It's really a beautiful game. Rather hard, too.

A proper sequel to Dark Forces 2 (the 3rd person followup games were good but nowhere near the epicness of DF2). Also Outlaws needs a modern remake. The soundtrack is just haunting...seriously listen:

Grand Theft Auto 2 (top down carnage).

Great timing for article. Flashback remake is coming out tomorrow!

Many games don't actually need remakes.

There needs to be a movement to reinterpret 3D games from the 90s as literally as possible, only with 3 or 4 things: wide screen (Gloom looks pretty awesome but?), analog movement, HD resolution: just more pixels nothing else, and solid graphics where applicable. Solid meaning no seams, no perspective warping, antialiasing, mipmapping with anisotropic filtering, things the PS1 for example simply could not do, that makes a cube look like a cube. Basically sans the glitches, blinders, and gimp controls.

The 90s were game's golden age. It's not just nostalgia, it was an age of purity before everything was mainstreamed and ran through the one size fits all commercialization ringer.

When Yahtzee mentioned Diggers, I thought of Dig-Dug. This Papers, Please and Floor 13 business sounds great, like a cartoonishly evil kind of game like Evil Genius. I don't think the latest Tomb Raider is a reboot, because it's more of a prequel they just didn't feel like making up a new title for. Odd how there's no mention of Mortal Kombat.

"(and since we're already nostalgia tripping, what the hell happened to Lemmings?)"
Ehmmmmm, well... what happened was it got ported a billion times over many years and people got massively sick of it!
Plus that one truly doesn't need shitty 3D levels to up the difficulty or be a stupid gimmick.
The original is absolutely wellsuited for the graphics and gameplay it had.

ZippyDSMlee:
Yes if there is a god we will get a Blood remake! Also Strife needs some retro love'n too.

A Strife remake would make me jizz nonstop from the moment I heard it's announcement to the moment I actually finished the game. but I think the rights are lost somewhere in limbo. Plus I don't think the game had enough enough of a fanbase for there to be a fan remake since I've been on the internet for quite a few years and I've never heard of a anyone talk about it :/ shame too because it had one of the best stories and did a very good job at narrative story telling in a fps that wasn't surpassed until Half-Life, and I think it still holds up when compared to modern games today. simply based on the reviews so far, it seems like it was much better than the Xcom game that just came out

"Videogames have an advantage here because games from 20 years ago look massively worse than games today, while films etc. have had no equivalent technological upgrade. I'd still argue that the quality of the original 1993 Syndicate overshadows the fairly shitty 2012 Syndicate."

I think this quote is interesting, especially considering that the original Xcom, syndicate and Rise of the Triad were better looking than the remakes^^.

I find most of the recent remakes rather pointless, as none of them really captures what made the originals special. IŽd much rather see rereleases of classics on consoles with updated controls, that would be much more interesting. Or they could remake L.A. Noire, make it look like an actual Noire movie and remove all that Sandbox/Action nonsense, they missed the chance to make an awesome climactic court drama as the final showdown, something that could be retconned in a stylish remake. But then again, iŽd rather someone took inspiration from L.A. Noire and made something fresh and awesome, than i would want a remake.

Some of these ideas seem rather well put together, it's a shame you probably don't have time to make games yourself (what with the 50+ game ideas I've read so far on XP).

When thinking about Nostalgia in videogaming, 20 years seems like quite a stretch. Styles of games just seem to disappear in a few years, or styles of games seem to overtake the market in a few years. Two years after CoD 4 came out you'd be lucky to find a shooter that wasn't trying to be CoD 4 (even it's sequel was just CoD 4 with gloss and boredom all over it).

Formica Archonis:

ZippyDSMlee:
Also Strife needs some retro love'n too.

Now there's a name I haven't heard in ages. If we're talking about Doom engine stuff might as well toss Heretic and Hexen on the list too.

Would be nice to see a new H game with the classes or not since Hexen is a sequel to Heretic and all. But no one wants to make a good FPS they are all quasi rail shooters like DOOM 3/Quake 4 and or a bit too generic/mindless like COD now adays ><

impcnrd:

ZippyDSMlee:
Yes if there is a god we will get a Blood remake! Also Strife needs some retro love'n too.

A Strife remake would make me jizz nonstop from the moment I heard it's announcement to the moment I actually finished the game. but I think the rights are lost somewhere in limbo. Plus I don't think the game had enough enough of a fanbase for there to be a fan remake since I've been on the internet for quite a few years and I've never heard of a anyone talk about it :/ shame too because it had one of the best stories and did a very good job at narrative story telling in a fps that wasn't surpassed until Half-Life, and I think it still holds up when compared to modern games today. simply based on the reviews so far, it seems like it was much better than the Xcom game that just came out

You never know it might be easy to get it might not. But the word must be spread around.

Id go flr mutant league football. It was on the sega genesis and was madden with trolls, robots, skeletons, aliens and mad max style humans.

Plus the half time show was killing the alien cheerleaders with explosives. Brilliant. There was no gain for killing them all except personal satisfaction.

I remember gloom as a quake 2 mod with aliens vs humans where your rewards for kills etc let you spawn as something bigger and meaner.

It's not "nostalgia" so much as being creatively bankrupt, Ben. They've sucked the "brown military shooter" teat dry and now they're desperately casting about for something else to be their lightning in a bottle (as opposed to their thunder in a bucket).

That said, one of these days I'm totally going to do a full-3D remake of Dungeons of Daggorath.

One Must Fall 2097 needs a remake so long as they a) keep it 2.5D a la Super Street Fighter IV, and b) keep those ugly robot models. Love me some two-button brawling.

Urban Assault! Dear god I hope they remake that! It was pretty damn good, but got repetetive after a while. I mean, you're in a giant floaty station that can make hundreds of tanks out of thin air in an instant. I would kill love to see it with modern graphics and more refined strategy elements.

I know Battlezone was similar, but it's just not the same.

Wait! Did Yahtzee just argue that the WiiU's touchscreen could improve a game?

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It would be sweet if Star Wars EP 1 Pod Racer (N64) was remade for today's consoles/PC. It was one of my favourite racing games back then and reminds me of F-Zero for its super fast races and wacky courses. They could update the visuals to today's standards, add new content ranging from new courses to new racers (plus racer features similar to sebulba's fire shooting) and improve the multiplayer to support more players and bots via split-screen, LAN and online. Plus have some background music during the race (not just on the final lap).

Yes, I totally agree with Blood. A shot-for-shot remake of that would be just superb. I think it's one of those 90's games that still holds up.

CrankyStorming:
There was actually a Lemmings reboot a few years ago by the guys who make Worms. I don't know if it was any good.

I played it. It was not.

Sea Dogs needs a remake. Think Pirates! but you can actually command your own fleet with your own captains and specialist crew members that give various bonuses to their respective ships.

If you take a Galleon you can give it to your first mate for him to escort you around with. Suddenly you're a pirate king... shame the game had horrible AI for your followers and was buggy as hell.

A bit of polish and modern tech would make it a brilliant romp.

well i guess the shitty 2012 syndicate is one of the reasons they're making an unofficial successor: sattelite reign. Which i think is good. Syndicate elements but at least not a blatant rehash.

I'd love to see Captive redone, or at least the Idea that your using a remote control robot/team of robots to free yourself from a space-based jail, having to actually traverse different bases to try and find the jail in the first place.

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