The Grim Truth

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You know what I just realized? I have no memory of what Suda 51 looks like; I don't even know if I've ever seen a picture of him.

I'm throwing my support behind the "Luchador Duck" theory.

I've never really got the appeal of Suda51.

I can understand the appeal of something different and bizarre, but his games always struck me less as highly individual artistic statements and more as, "Look how whacky and cuh-raaaazy I am!" Thing is, manufactured crazy kind of, y'know... isn't. It's like when little kids act cute because they want something from you.

Then again, I've never played Killer7, which is apparently the game that made him A Name.

There's more to it then that. I see through your disguise Suda!

This reminds me of the hidden ending of Resident Evil 2.

So is Suda51 copying the Family Guy manatees or the other way round?

Thunderous Cacophony:
You know what I just realized? I have no memory of what Suda 51 looks like; I don't even know if I've ever seen a picture of him.

I'm throwing my support behind the "Luchador Duck" theory.

I saw an interview with him once.

He just looks like a fairly regular, not bad looking, middle aged Japanese dude.

...

I will understand if you prefer to imagine him as a duck.

DVS BSTrD:
There's more to it then that. I see through your disguise Suda!

Y'know, I've see that picture before, but I only just now noticed how utterly miserable the duck looks.

I've never played a Suda51 game. Never saw the appeal of most of them.

If you want random words, try playing the first 10 minutes of Magi Nation on the GBC.

EXPLODING SOCK PUPPET!

Luchador Duck?!

My god, the prophecy is true, he's is the chosen one!

Last Suda 51 game I thoroughly enjoyed was Killer 7, and that was ages ago.

Suda51 hate? Ah! My jimmies are rustled even more than they are when you poke fun at Evangelion.

In all seriousness, as much as I liked Shadows of the Damned, I personally thought it was rather mediocre. Lollipop Chainsaw was even more so, seeing as the writing was not the least bit clever. Nonetheless, I liked them both for their quirky characters and competent gameplay.

Despite being a cult classic, I can't bring myself to like Killer7 as much as I do, say, No More Heroes/2. The gameplay was pretty clunky if not unique, and its minimalistic approach to plot during its actual levels kind of baffled me. It was kind of on an opposite tangent from aforementioned two.

Of course, I have to put No More Heroes on a pedestal. The best part to me about Suda's games is that he doesn't expect you take them seriously. The games don't take themselves seriously.

Haven't gotten the chance to play this new one yet (even though I have it), but I guess I'll see if the comic holds up.

There's other people who fucking loved shadows of the damned?

Honestly, I always put it down to personal bias. I always had a thing for interpretations of hell. You get so many people's ideas of what would be the single worst place ever. Suda's version was twisted, it was, well, hellish, and also funny. It also had some great gothic stylings that you just don't see in much media anymore, perhaps because it's considered cheesy or too much of a throwback to hammer horror days, but of course, Suda didn't give a crap whether it would be popular, he gave a crap about what he wanted to give a crap about.

And it's a shame to see him go the other way.

Most Suda 51 games I play for a bit before just getting sick of the whole thing; the mechanics, the writing, the clearly random for the sack of random setpieces, all of it just makes me think "Why the hell does anyone call this guy a gaming genius?" The only Suda 51 game I've played till the end was Shadows of the Damned, and even that didn't escape that thought process, although that one was less about the writing or random setpieces, and more about the halt of advancing the mechanics in any meaningful way combined with just the seemingly complete lack of effort in the jokes and writing in the second half.

Killer is Dead doesn't look much different, but it's probably going to have the fans screaming how people just don't understand it, not because the game is any good, but because it's a Suda 51 game with seemingly random elements; they probably gave it game of the year when just the first trailer was released

Zhukov:
I've never really got the appeal of Suda51.

I can understand the appeal of something different and bizarre, but his games always struck me less as highly individual artistic statements and more as, "Look how whacky and cuh-raaaazy I am!" Thing is, manufactured crazy kind of, y'know... isn't. It's like when little kids act cute because they want something from you.

Then again, I've never played Killer7, which is apparently the game that made him A Name.

The entertainment industry is full of people with nothing more to their name than "ZANY!" so it doesn't surprise me, but....Yeah. I don't get it, either.

i think he would have more success if he finally releases his games for pc.

That makes WAY too much sense.

The picture of Erin kicking the door in may be my favorite thing that Cory has ever drawn. Seriously, it's pretty perfect.

Gigolo mode! *looks it up on youtube* I don't understand how this is a gigolo mode. Shouldn't he be the one stripping down to his underwear and being sexy for her? Then as he turns, his ball sack should be swaying softly because you know, every movement makes human flesh move like light feathers in the wind.

She hired him for sex didn't she? Why does he think he has to give her gifts to get sex with her, she is paying him for sex. He needs to be stripping and dancing, that's what she paid him for.

I get the feeling this isn't a true gigolo mode, I get the feeling that the cheerleader game isn't really what a bunch of male gamers like to clap their hands about thinking that's a proper strong female protagonist.

I get the feeling people are over estimating Suda 51 talents.

Zhukov:
I've never really got the appeal of Suda51.

And I never really got the appeal of reality TV, but enough someones have shown appeal to it that TLC has managed to find the bottomless barrel...

That said, I think what makes Suda 51 appealing is that it is so different from other games in terms of aesthetic and themes, particularly the "embrace the weird" sexualized humor that he tends to employ, while still being competently built in terms of mechanics.

Waffle. Soda. Grunge. Fallacy.

Win.

You put a lot of effort into that last panel, didn't you? Don't mind if I steal it to post around the internet as an image macro.

This certainly explains Jasper Batt Jr. in a way.

*puts on Groucho glasses* Now say the secret word...and I'll make another game that makes no sense!

Teoes:
So is Suda51 copying the Family Guy manatees or the other way round?

Other way around. Suda's been nuts for longer than Family Guy's been around.

But... But... I bought and loved Shadows of the Damned... D=

Honestly though, I find him very hit or miss. I don't particularly like No More Heroes, yet I adored Killer7 and SotD, and while I haven't yet played it, I think I'd be very "meh" about Lollipop Chainsaw.

I thought the open world part of NMH1(didnt play 2) and the minigames were weak, but the missions and story was great.

Wait, weren't you saying that sticking "succeeded/failed" stickers on decisions was basically the correct and good thing to do just the other week?

That's what I get for clicking on one of these I guess. That'll learn me.

I... I might have to use the duck as my new avatar. This panel is perfection. Well done, Cory. [And Grey for having the idea, I guess. :P]

Last panel is nearly an Egoraptor joke...

I legitimately laughed hysterically for a good minute at the luchador duck reveal. Good show Grey.

Moth_Monk:
Last panel is nearly an Egoraptor joke...

Haha, yeah, glad I'm not the only one to make the Girl Chan in Paradise connection. See the spoiler in my post above. It's the first thing my mind went to. lol

Is any of Suda51's work on PC? I can't afford a separate console just for games and PC just for work/internet but I would like to see what all the fuss is about.

MrFinnishDude:
This reminds me of the hidden ending of Resident Evil 2.

Are you talking about the Silent Hill "Dog Ending", or did RE2 also had an "Animal Mastermind" ending?

Though I haven't played many Suda51 games... I can perfectly imagine this being legit.
Erin's expression is highly justified in the last panel.

Sometimes life really is that mysterious until we realize how simple something might be (though crazy) and say "That explains everything."

PirateRose:
his ball sack should be swaying softly because you know, every movement makes human flesh move like light feathers in the wind.

Now, ya see, you're being sarcastic, but male genitalia actually does jangle with just about every movement. You just don't see it often because banana-hammocks are a rarity, much to the chagrin of my funny bone.

Oh god I want that mask. Also, this does make perfect sense. I'm putting my weight behind this theory.

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