Reasonable Comics For Reasonable People

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Wow, making fun of emotionally detached people, now I'm even more offended.
I guess if you're disability isn't obvious or part of an established social justice movement you're a guilt free target for ridicule.

Terrible. Not even funny.
8/10

JonB:
3.5/5 stars. honestly this comic has gone so far downhill it is ridiculous. i am not reading it anymore.

grey carter used to write about serious important topics and now he has turned into a coward who only writes moronic pc things to please everyone. he is worse than the oatmeal.

Reported for sassing the hard working...workers... of this site.

I mean for fucks sake people, is it really so hard to read the code of conduct around here?! Jeeze!

Level-headed communication and discussion in place of adversity, inflammatory remarks and mockery would leave the straw men of the world unemployed?

WELL WHO'DA THUNK IT?

(such a shame that some people seem to consider that concept something to be mocked)

Can we just ban Cory and Grey already? I mean, they've probably caused more flame wars than any single person (aside from maybe Jim, that scoundrel).

I suppose if being aggressive upsets people it's always an option to be passive aggressive?

I stalled at the "inaction" part, what "actions" can we take to stop the vocal minority? Find where they live and punch them in the mouth? While this would make me feel better, I doubt it is a viable solution.

Knight Templar:

RJ 17:

PunkRex:

Wasn't that the point of this comic, i'm sure they've made other stripes that i'd agree could use more punch but this one was basically saying that that's not what a proper discussion needs.

Considering last Friday's comic and the response to it, I'm pretty sure Templar's comment is dripping with sarcasm.

I prefer the term, atrociously sarcastic.

I see... i'll just go back to my corner then...

I enjoyed the artwork and execution of the joke, but I found the characters to be 1 dimensional and lacking depth. They also seemed to be condescending satirical stereotypes with the comic poking fun at the audience. I would expect more from a short form webcomic that has a history of making exactly these kind of jokes.

3.5 out of 5

Funny comic, to be sure. I especially liked the "Parody - What is it?" bit. Not so sure I agree with the part where your gamer says that sometimes, through inaction, he let's a vocal minority represent him. It seems to me that very often the vocal minority is ridiculed plenty by reasonable people, but media attention is always wired to talk far more about the side with the inflammatory viewpoint. It's sort of like saying that Muslims, through inaction, let Al Qaeda say awful things in the name of Islam. Muslims as a whole aren't responsible for what Al Qaeda says and neither are gamers as a whole responsible for what some ignorant jerks say. That said, the tone of the comic is a fantastic contrast to your other one, funny and poignant. Good show!

Why are there only two white males in the comic? Are you saying that white males are the only ones with a business in playing or developing video games? Oh I get it, females can only be in it if they are mentally disturbed, lesbian, or redheads with dark skin. You'd probably all give them huge balloon chests in skimpy outfits, because that's what video games have brainwashed men into thinking is normal. And of course the only black guy has to take the bus because he's poor (making less than his white counterparts) and gets shot because he's violent. Not to mention I don't see any fair representation of our transgendered brothers and sisters. Who's to say the stawman actually wants to identify as a male?

I'm not saying you're that bad, I enjoy you comics, I'm just saying you would be Nazi if you lived in those times.

magicmonkeybars:
Wow, making fun of emotionally detached people, now I'm even more offended.
I guess if you're disability isn't obvious or part of an established social justice movement you're a guilt free target for ridicule.

I really hope you were being sarcastic, or are ignorant of what happened in the previous comic's comments.

M0tty:
Terrible. Not even funny.
8/10

This may be a little too on-the-nose.

OT: Objectively, this comic's beige color was beige and the people were people who reacted in ways that one could imagine people reacting. The strawman's unemployment was evident.

10/10 (could not find objective reasons to remove marks, congratulations on having a fully functional webcomic)

drummodino:

magicmonkeybars:
Wow, making fun of emotionally detached people, now I'm even more offended.
I guess if you're disability isn't obvious or part of an established social justice movement you're a guilt free target for ridicule.

I really hope you were being sarcastic, or are ignorant of what happened in the previous comic's comments.

I think all posts can be assumed to be soaked in sarcastic sauce (until Boudica 2.0 shows up, anyways).

I like to pretend this comic is a call for people to be more level-headed and reasonable when discussing issues, especially in the relatively trivial sphere of gaming. I know it's really a passive aggressive and snarky response to all the people who dared to be insulted and upset by their previous comic and the massive flaming thread that resulted from it, but I like to pretend it could be something more.

Part of what was frustrating about the "White Guy Defense force" comic is that such aggressive, dismissive, and insulting caricatures of different viewpoints or opinions like the ones found in that comic are already far too common in these discussions. They are a major part of why so many discussions devolve into pointless flame wars like the thread on last weeks comic. We need far more encouragement of the attitude of mutual respect that can bring forth actual discussion and growth found and subsequently mocked in this weeks comic.

This comic would have been brilliant if it wasn't for the subtext of "Oh well, people got insulted so I guess we won't try to do anything funny ever again." It's a shame.

M0tty:
Terrible. Not even funny.
8/10

8/10?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
This comic was mildly okay and cause a brief chuckle. It deserves AT LEAST a 9.5/10.

I could hear the jimmies rustling from the other thread from three sites away. Good to see something no-one could possibly be offended by be posted, right? Right?

Haha brilliant. Glad I came out of the fallout shelter for this.

I really hope this will calm people down but I think the previous thread will infect this one too. I feel I should do what Madagascar does in this situation.

Abomination:
I suppose if being aggressive upsets people it's always an option to be passive aggressive?

Hell just look at these very forums. People here have made passive agressiveness an artform.

A terrible terrible artform.

Silent Protagonist:
I like to pretend this comic is a call for people to be more level-headed and reasonable when discussing issues, especially in the relatively trivial sphere of gaming. I know it's really a passive aggressive and snarky response to all the people who dared to be insulted and upset by their previous comic and the massive flaming thread that resulted from it, but I like to pretend it could be something more.

Part of what was frustrating about the "White Guy Defense force" comic is that such aggressive, dismissive, and insulting caricatures of different viewpoints or opinions like the ones found in that comic are already far too common in these discussions. They are a major part of why so many discussions devolve into pointless flame wars like the thread on last weeks comic. We need far more encouragement of the attitude of mutual respect that can bring forth actual discussion and growth found and subsequently mocked in this weeks comic.

This comic would have been brilliant if it wasn't for the subtext of "Oh well, people got insulted so I guess we won't try to do anything funny ever again." It's a shame.

I can't help but feel this is only going to keep getting worse and it isn't helped by posters that are trying to fan the flames. Hell, even the mods are getting in on this. And now in this thread we have the "3.5/5 stars" crap being brought over from Greg Tito's GTA V review that's been generating heat since it was posted.

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PunkRex:

Knight Templar:
Yet another toothless inoffensive comic from Critical Miss.

I really wish just once you guys would go out on a limb and say something controversial and entertaining. But no, it's always the same polite, straightforward and reasonable calls to polite conversation from you guys.
You terrible, boring, people you.

Wasn't that the point of this comic, i'm sure they've made other stripes that i'd agree could use more punch but this one was basically saying that that's not what a proper discussion needs.

Considering last Friday's comic and the response to it, I'm pretty sure Templar's comment is dripping with sarcasm.

anthony87:

Teoes:

JonB:
3.5/5 stars. honestly this comic has gone so far downhill it is ridiculous. i am not reading it anymore.

grey carter used to write about serious important topics and now he has turned into a coward who only writes moronic pc things to please everyone. he is worse than the oatmeal.

Err no, look at the review score guidlines. 3.5 is between "Good, but flawed" and "Very good". So either this cartoon is worth 3.5 stars and is better than you're saying ("so far downhill it is ridiculous", really?) or is as bad as you say and only worth 2.5 stars.

Is it really such a hard concept for people to get their head around?

Docking a comic's score just because you don't like oatmeal is just the most petty thing you could've done.

Or maybe his post was soaked in sarcasm? Wait....maybe yours is too.....WHERE DOES IT END????

OT: I quite liked this one. Much better than last weeks comic Oh snap!

Poe's Law is going off the charts on this forum

Which meme would best represent this... hmmm... ugh, hate to do it, but...

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I totally agree with the point i assume this comic strip tries to make: it's either total blandness or painting people one does not agree with as racist murderers. And i also wholly agree with the makers of this comic strips that painting people one does not agree with as racist murderers is both a valid and effective strategy in discussions (/sarcasm, if that isn't clear by now).

See, while this one I can't help but laugh (I found the last comic to be in ridiculously poor taste), I'd honestly say I'd prefer this sort of comic every week than what Gray and Carter have been frankensteining for the recent while.

basically, I'd rather have over the top PC-ness than over the top mockery and ridicule.

THIS. ALL OF THIS.

"honest and open discourse"?
Aren't some developers forbidden to talk about the design process under contract? as in, you don't know who made what call?

Silent Protagonist:
I like to pretend this comic is a call for people to be more level-headed and reasonable when discussing issues, especially in the relatively trivial sphere of gaming. I know it's really a passive aggressive and snarky response to all the people who dared to be insulted and upset by their previous comic and the massive flaming thread that resulted from it, but I like to pretend it could be something more.

Part of what was frustrating about the "White Guy Defense force" comic is that such aggressive, dismissive, and insulting caricatures of different viewpoints or opinions like the ones found in that comic are already far too common in these discussions. They are a major part of why so many discussions devolve into pointless flame wars like the thread on last weeks comic. We need far more encouragement of the attitude of mutual respect that can bring forth actual discussion and growth found and subsequently mocked in this weeks comic.

This comic would have been brilliant if it wasn't for the subtext of "Oh well, people got insulted so I guess we won't try to do anything funny ever again." It's a shame.

Agreed. I just rolled my eyes at the last comic and moved on without responding, because I knew they were just trolling for views. This comic would have been clever if the last one was funny, and not agonizing for anyone other than manginas to read.

Grey, if you are reading this, enough webcomic artists have turned the medium into a joke by pulling this crap. I know you're better than this. The viewership might be down, but please have some integrity. Please don't jump the shark, if you haven't already.

(inb4 the next comic mocking that last statement)

That's all I really have to say.

This is some serious performance art here. This comic and the last comic + both fan reaction is a great art peace in itself by Grey Avantcarter.

Yeah, I'm done with the comic. If I thought it was entertaining to be preached at I would watch an evangelist channel.

Hehe, love it.

But it would be a shame for all the nastiness to go away, the Phil Fish threads were so entertaining.

loved the strawman

I thought the last one was a tad mean, but this was just damn funny.

People get pretty worked up over some pretty petty stuff.

Bravo Grey, bravo.

anthony87:

Abomination:
I suppose if being aggressive upsets people it's always an option to be passive aggressive?

Hell just look at these very forums. People here have made passive agressiveness an artform.

A terrible terrible artform.

That is the downside to restricting what people can say to one another really. Some will ignore it, act nastily and get hit with the banhammer. Many will simply not post and a few will learn to post nicely. Then a whole bunch of people will try and find a way to insult one another without getting banned for it.

After all, making rules so people cannot be rude isn't going to change peoples personalities. it just prevents them from showing it.

OT: I liked this one, although I do find it kind of wrong that the rules against making accusations of trolling are being enforced in the comments for this comic when the comic is quite often the definition of it.

Grey Carter:

A mild comic that won't hurt your tum tum.

This after all, cannot be called anything else.

Note: I am not offended in the slightest, I don't mind it (watching peoples reactions is often just as funny as the comic), just the fact that it cannot be called out for what it is.

I read this comic by using my eyes.

It had words and pictures in it, some of the pictures represented people.

Oh, don't feel too bad for Straw Man, he immediately found a job playing a publisher in an online forum.

Krantos:
Mel Brooks once said: (Here)

"You have to love {what} you parody."

That, I think is the major failing of Critical Miss, and why their "Parody" comics draw so much heat. There doesn't seem to be much Love from Grey and Carter. Most of their topical comics come across more as mean spirited and derisive. I'd say it's more Satire.

You will never make friends with Satire. It is, by definition ridicule.

If all you're looking for is page views and traffic, I'd say your technique is perfect. Inflammatory statements usually are for that.

However, if you're trying to promote honest discussion and progress... I don't think Ridicule and derision ever lead to anything constructive happening. At least not on the internet.

I really don't think they are super concerned with promoting "honest discussion and progress". I think they are primarily concerned with putting out a popular comic.

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