Don't Blame Games, Blame Pants

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So when the lrr guys said" no rules means no pants" they were doing pro-pants propaganda because violence increases peoples need for funny videos, increasing their viewership. It's so evil

Hah, I can proudly say I spend less time wearing pants than playing videogames, and I never do both at the same time, which must be the real recipe for disaster.

Alakaizer:
As compelling as this evidence is, I know the TRUE secret of mass murders: dihydrogen monoxide. Yes, every murderer throughout time has been addicted to dihydrogen monoxide. Armies make troops carry containers of dihydrogen monoxide. If we were to abolish this dangerous chemical, all murder, nay, ALL CRIME would be stopped within a week!

The supposed "dangers" of Hydric Acid are completely overblown, I drink it almost every day and I've never murdered ANYONE who didn't deserve it. As long as it isn't inhaled or taken in large doses, not only can it be perfectly safe, but it even has some health benefits that most people are unaware of. Perhaps you should do some research before you start trying to cause fear and panic.

Excellent article - you make some startling points. I have a proposal and a query.

Proposal: That we introduce international legislation forcing the Governments of the world to record trouser sales and keep track of those walking ticking time-bombs who purchase and wear them. We need to know who these dangerous people are, where they are and what they're doing.

Query: What of sagging? Are violent tendencies reduced by way of the trouser covering less of the body, or does it not work either by way of the uncovered body being at the wrong end of the leg (Shamus said trousers should be rolled up, after all, not down) or because the same amount of trouser material is involved; it's just that it's bunched up more? We must investigate, with science.

I find this article rife with inaccuracies, did not the Romans, one of the most militaristic empires the world has ever seen, give preference to wearing tunics and if trousers cause violence explain Scotland. In fact the invention of violence far pre-dates the discovery of trousers, the modern trouser only becoming popular towards the end of the medieval period, people before relying on brais and hose.

Noswad:
I find this article rife with inaccuracies, did not the Romans, one of the most militaristic empires the world has ever seen, give preference to wearing tunics and if trousers cause violence explain Scotland. In fact the invention of violence far pre-dates the discovery of trousers, the modern trouser only becoming popular towards the end of the medieval period, people before relying on brais and hose.

The romans didn't have firearms and they quickly adopted pants after crossing the alps. Sure, they made fun of the German tribes before that. But once they fought them in the harsh conditions north of the alps, they quickly realised why the Germans wore them:
Because of the pure ferocity provided by pants.

Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

rofltehcat:

The romans didn't have firearms and they quickly adopted pants after crossing the alps. Sure, they made fun of the German tribes before that. But once they fought them in the harsh conditions north of the alps, they quickly realised why the Germans wore them:
Because of the pure ferocity provided by pants.

That's just what the pantsists want you to think!
Of course we all know it's all the doing of David Letterman and his evil "Worldwide Pants" corporation. And you people thought the Umbrella corporation was bad...

I think responses like this are fine sometimes but we shouldn't try and use this kind of thing if we actually want to change anyone's mind.

The reason people believe that violent video games cause real violence is that there is an intuitive link between the two (at least for people who haven't actually played a violent video game)

Playing games is seen as a "niche" activity that take up a significant portion of their time. The actual correlations that people cite are just rationalisations and perceived support for a link that people consider "obvious".

Of course we don't need to prove anything, it's up to them to show a link not us to show no link.

Sorry for sapping the fun out of a funny article, just thought this was worth saying.

Aye! Kilts fer everyone!

Bah, the Levis corporation is just a small piece in a sinister conspiracy. This anti-pants movement is a product of Levis REAL owners, a conglomerate of wealthy skirt manufacturers. They seek to discredit pants so that people will be forced into buying skirts, a market they have completely cornered and far higher profit margins in! Don't you see?!

Next time you see someone wearing a miniskirt, don't stand around thinking about her beautifully springy buns! Tell her that she is part of the problem, and only together can we preserve pants for our children to know!

I need to spend more time gaming and less time wearing pants. I hardly spent any time gaming this month! O_0

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

We'll from now on you're not allowed to wear any bottoms at all.

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

lacktheknack:

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

DAMMIT! Wearing a dress gives me the freedom to holster my gun wherever I need to!

EeveeElectro:

lacktheknack:

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

DAMMIT! Wearing a dress gives me the freedom to holster my gun wherever I need to!

Well, if you use a fake beard, you could probably stash a small gun in your Speedo.

oh my god! mr shamus you opened my eyes to many truths. i am now sitting here wearing speedos after reading your article! i shal burn any pants here in my house.

lacktheknack:

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

or we can arrest people who cover their chests! that way the world will be way more beautiful

sagitel:

lacktheknack:

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

or we can arrest people who cover their chests! that way the world will be way more beautiful

Whoever says this has clearly never seen moobs.

...Unless they're into that.

That's it!!! Servants, bring me my finest toga!!! No more pants for me, who do you think I am, one of those filthy, violent trouser wearing barbarians!!! Ha!

....

Wait, togas are linked to political assassinations?

I will not surrender my pants to any so-called 'government' or 'organization'. I acquired them legally and I am a law abiding pants owner. Besides, if we, the law abiding pants owners, lower our pant length what is to stop the criminals from staying the same length, or even extending them. I need to protect myself and my family, so the 'government' can keep its greedy, regulating hands off my Levi's!!!

What a load of rubbish pants aint the problem people are the problem, if you get rid of people then there is nobody for the bullet to hit.

Are we sure it's the pants, though? Maybe it's the shirt, or the underwear, or maybe the socks.

Let's all just be naked from now on to be sure.

Alakaizer:
As compelling as this evidence is, I know the TRUE secret of mass murders: dihydrogen monoxide. Yes, every murderer throughout time has been addicted to dihydrogen monoxide. Armies make troops carry containers of dihydrogen monoxide. If we were to abolish this dangerous chemical, all murder, nay, ALL CRIME would be stopped within a week!

Haha, I love that video where they're getting people to sign a petition to ban dihyrdogen monoxide while at the same time offering them bottles of water to drink which they happily accept. Fucking idiots.

I used to have violent thoughts all the time until I started playing video games in the nude. Now I'm a pacifist.

That visual you have of me playing games naked? Well, you're welcome.

lacktheknack:

EeveeElectro:
Well I wear my finest dress when I murder people.

WHERE'S YOUR LOGIC NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"NEWSFLASH: ALL LEG COVERINGS DETERMINED TO BE LINKED TO HORRIFIC MURDERS! IF YOU OBSERVE ANYONE COVERING THEIR LEGS, THEY COULD BE CONCEALING ANY ARRAY OF DEADLY WEAPONRY! REPORT ALL SUSPICIOUS COVERINGS TO THE LOCAL POLICE IMMEDIATELY!"

>tfw everyone begins wearing miniskirts and Speedos ;___;

Consider this the obligatory "I've got a deadly weapon...IN MY PANTS!"-post.

However, I'm not currently wearing them. Make of this information what you will.

What this article tells me is that the Scottish army is the most peaceful one in the world. Say no to pants - say yes to kilts!

I'm actually surprised this childish rubbish was published here. But then i remember that this is a gaming site and that this is probably pretty representative of the community as a whole.

I suppose you're rather pleased with yourself, but this kind of argument/statement brings nothing new to the table, it is neither original nor very constructive. This childish behaviour is like that guy in school who takes his clothes off and streaks in the middle of a serious debate, to the encouraging applause of the equally simpleminded in the audience. Finally something they can understand. Crowdpleasing at it's worst i would say.

You do realize that real people have been killed? People with parents, girlfriends and perhaps children?

Now, you are FULLY entitled to not believe there is a connection between video games and violence, you may very well be right. But the least you can do is respect the debate, because whether you are correct or not, this is a very serious and important debate.

If you're not willing to take the debate seriously, please give the keyboard to someone who is.

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Shamus Young:
The link between pants and violence has been understood for centuries. Every major military in the world has made pants a part of their uniform, even for women. There is not a single army that wears short-shorts, boxers, ball gowns, or miniskirts into battle. It's pants. It's always pants. Horrible, blood-soaked murder pants.

Really? I call shenanigans on that!

Your baseless accusations against the proud article of clothing known as pants is founded on flawed research and imaginary "facts". You are neither a scholar nor a gentleman. I bid you good day!

Seriously, though, cool article. :)

But wait a minute...

isn't "pants" a little broad?

Surely they were all wearing a particular kind of pants?

Like say... jeans or slacks?

I doubt many of our psychotic mass murderers went to their shootings wearing sweat-pants, pajama-pants, or track-pants... or any of the sillier, breezier varieties of pants!

So those are safe, right?

Gronk:
I'm actually surprised this childish rubbish was published here. But then i remember that this is a gaming site and that this is probably pretty representative of the community as a whole.

I suppose you're rather pleased with yourself, but this kind of argument/statement brings nothing new to the table, it is neither original nor very constructive. This childish behaviour is like that guy in school who takes his clothes off and streaks in the middle of a serious debate, to the encouraging applause of the equally simpleminded in the audience. Finally something they can understand. Crowdpleasing at it's worst i would say.

You do realize that real people have been killed? People with parents, girlfriends and perhaps children?

Now, you are FULLY entitled to not believe there is a connection between video games and violence, you may very well be right. But the least you can do is respect the debate, because whether you are correct or not, this is a very serious and important debate.

If you're not willing to take the debate seriously, please give the keyboard to someone who is.

The problem with the debate is that instead of focusing on an actual cause of the problem, they try to find something else to blame. It is a waste of time and effort to even acknowledge this debate. Yes, video games are linked to increased AGGRESSION, not violence, or violent behavior. Just like sports, or any other number of competitive activities are linked to increased aggression.

Yes, everyone here realizes that people have been killed, what makes us sad is that instead of looking at the root causes of these events, they try to find a scapegoat that they can point and say "Hey, look at this, its clearly *insert scapegoat here*'s fault!"

http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/08/27/in-new-study-video-games-not-tied-to-violence-in-high-risk-youth/58934.html

The most recent Study I have seen published has in fact shown that video games may have a calming effect on people with certain disorders, such as depression or ADD. This is why this is taken so lightly in the video gaming community

lassiie:

Gronk:
I'm actually surprised this childish rubbish was published here. But then i remember that this is a gaming site and that this is probably pretty representative of the community as a whole.

I suppose you're rather pleased with yourself, but this kind of argument/statement brings nothing new to the table, it is neither original nor very constructive. This childish behaviour is like that guy in school who takes his clothes off and streaks in the middle of a serious debate, to the encouraging applause of the equally simpleminded in the audience. Finally something they can understand. Crowdpleasing at it's worst i would say.

You do realize that real people have been killed? People with parents, girlfriends and perhaps children?

Now, you are FULLY entitled to not believe there is a connection between video games and violence, you may very well be right. But the least you can do is respect the debate, because whether you are correct or not, this is a very serious and important debate.

If you're not willing to take the debate seriously, please give the keyboard to someone who is.

The problem with the debate is that instead of focusing on an actual cause of the problem, they try to find something else to blame. It is a waste of time and effort to even acknowledge this debate. Yes, video games are linked to increased AGGRESSION, not violence, or violent behavior. Just like sports, or any other number of competitive activities are linked to increased aggression.

Yes, everyone here realizes that people have been killed, what makes us sad is that instead of looking at the root causes of these events, they try to find a scapegoat that they can point and say "Hey, look at this, its clearly *insert scapegoat here*'s fault!"

http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/08/27/in-new-study-video-games-not-tied-to-violence-in-high-risk-youth/58934.html

The most recent Study I have seen published has in fact shown that video games may have a calming effect on people with certain disorders, such as depression or ADD. This is why this is taken so lightly in the video gaming community

Like I said earlier, You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, I am not arguing whether the gaming=violence-debate is right or wrong. What I AM saying is that no matter if it is, you should still respect the fact that there is a debate and treat it seriously. If you mock someone and treat them disrespectfully just because you think they are wrong, don't expect them to respect you back.

"But I don't need their respect!" No? Isn't that what the gaming community wants? To be taken seriously by the rest of society? I got that impression, at least when it comes to the more grown up part of the community. That's what I mean when I say that if you can't or won't make a serious contribution to the debate, then please go away, your streaking is ruining it for the rest of us.

And you know what? Pot is calming for everybody, that does not autmatically make it healthy. ;)

Gronk:

lassiie:

Gronk:
I'm actually surprised this childish rubbish was published here. But then i remember that this is a gaming site and that this is probably pretty representative of the community as a whole.

I suppose you're rather pleased with yourself, but this kind of argument/statement brings nothing new to the table, it is neither original nor very constructive. This childish behaviour is like that guy in school who takes his clothes off and streaks in the middle of a serious debate, to the encouraging applause of the equally simpleminded in the audience. Finally something they can understand. Crowdpleasing at it's worst i would say.

You do realize that real people have been killed? People with parents, girlfriends and perhaps children?

Now, you are FULLY entitled to not believe there is a connection between video games and violence, you may very well be right. But the least you can do is respect the debate, because whether you are correct or not, this is a very serious and important debate.

If you're not willing to take the debate seriously, please give the keyboard to someone who is.

The problem with the debate is that instead of focusing on an actual cause of the problem, they try to find something else to blame. It is a waste of time and effort to even acknowledge this debate. Yes, video games are linked to increased AGGRESSION, not violence, or violent behavior. Just like sports, or any other number of competitive activities are linked to increased aggression.

Yes, everyone here realizes that people have been killed, what makes us sad is that instead of looking at the root causes of these events, they try to find a scapegoat that they can point and say "Hey, look at this, its clearly *insert scapegoat here*'s fault!"

http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/08/27/in-new-study-video-games-not-tied-to-violence-in-high-risk-youth/58934.html

The most recent Study I have seen published has in fact shown that video games may have a calming effect on people with certain disorders, such as depression or ADD. This is why this is taken so lightly in the video gaming community

Like I said earlier, You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, I am not arguing whether the gaming=violence-debate is right or wrong. What I AM saying is that no matter if it is, you should still respect the fact that there is a debate and treat it seriously. If you mock someone and treat them disrespectfully just because you think they are wrong, don't expect them to respect you back.

"But I don't need their respect!" No? Isn't that what the gaming community wants? To be taken seriously by the rest of society? I got that impression, at least when it comes to the more grown up part of the community. That's what I mean when I say that if you can't or won't make a serious contribution to the debate, then please go away, your streaking is ruining it for the rest of us.

And you know what? Pot is calming for everybody, that does not autmatically make it healthy. ;)

Did you even look at the article. I will not respect a debate that has ZERO scientific basis. It has nothing to do with me thinking they are wrong. It has to do with scientific proof that they are wrong. It has to do with people looking for scapegoats for problems that actually need to be solved. I will respect debates that are relevant to the current issue, not a debate that has been OVER AND OVER AGAIN proven wrong. I made a very serious contribution to this debate by posting a scientific study that was done by two psychology professors. What should make YOU mad is people trying to shift blame onto video games instead of actually working to find a cause.

As for your last comment. I really hope that wasn't meant to be serious because that has absolutely no correlation with this debate.

"teenage boys under 30"

Wait, what? I know this is satire but what?

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