Escapist Expo: How to Create an Online Cult, Er, Following

How to Create an Online Cult, Er, Following

The internet is a fickle mistress, but when plied with social media and shameless plugs, she can bring great success. The internet celebrities discuss how they've expanded the reach of their empire through the use of self-promotion. Or how it all kind of just happened by an enormous stroke of luck.

Participants:
Graham Stark
Paul Saunders
Yahtzee Croshaw
Joshua Ovenshire
John Bain
Greg Tito

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As awesome as it is that these panels are made available online, the voice volume is kind of low. Sadly that makes it kind of hart to understand the speakers.

Horrible sound quality, all I'm hearing is echos and mumbling, the first expo's was much better.

I loved the panel videos from the first Expo, but this year they seem to have messed up every possible aspect. The handheld camera work is shaky, the sound appears to be on-board audio from a camera located on the other side of a room with terrible acoustics, and the live stream of this panel was completely non-existent. If you went through the trouble of having a microphone in front of every presenter, why not use audio pulled directly from the mixing board? I would call it amateurish, but I've actually seen amateurs produce better panel videos than this. Hell, Loading Ready Run has a video of their Anime Evolution panel from 2009 that has better audio quality (http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/449/LRR-QA-Anime-Evolution-2009). I know this is only the second Expo, but I was seriously expecting better from a site that specializes in web video.

I was there, and it is really odd. You'd think that with the big panels being in a theater, that the sound would be better and there'd be less of an echo. But it's a very OLD and small theater, and it didn't work out like they wanted at all. Hopefully next time they'll just live feed all the camera and mic work to a file.

As it stands, yeah the panels in the theater were a step down from last year, and I have a feeling the panels in the actual meeting rooms are much better.

Really poor sound quality. Don't you have audio source, seriously? Pretty amateur stuff.

Unfortunately, due to some technical problems with the audio, we only have the source from one directional mic in the balcony. We decided to upload the panel video, rather than keep the content from you guys, but we're investigating ways to improve the audio quality now.

Greg

While the sound wasn't perfect.... live stuff in a hall like that is tricky business, and at least it was something you could adjust to.

I went in expecting to watch maybe fifteen minutes, and ended up staying for the whole ride. Much better questions and answers than you typically get at this sort of thing, and obviously a very interesting set of guests for the subject matter in question. Many thanks!

The sound did suck, however accidents happens, and I really appreciate the content.
I hope you guys get it fixed, Im looking forward to the remaining panels. Have fun :)

The LRR guys are really great but what is it with NA people using the term "you know" every ten or so words? I tend to get distracted by people using this term to the point of being unable to concentrate on what they are actually trying to get across. Its not everyone that does this but I have never heard anyone from the rest of the english speaking world do this. Im not a native english speaker but it sounds like really bad language.

That was very funny and enjoyable. Pretty insightful too. Shame about the sound.

Edit: Although I don't like Smosh, it was interesting to hear the point of view of someone whose videos are almost the polar opposite of TotalBiscuit's.

Greg Tito:
Unfortunately, due to some technical problems with the audio, we only have the source from one directional mic in the balcony. We decided to upload the panel video, rather than keep the content from you guys, but we're investigating ways to improve the audio quality now.

Greg

And it's appreciated :). Though slightly ironic seeing how much of the panel was people discussing the importance of good sound quality ;)

jackdeesface:

Greg Tito:
Unfortunately, due to some technical problems with the audio, we only have the source from one directional mic in the balcony. We decided to upload the panel video, rather than keep the content from you guys, but we're investigating ways to improve the audio quality now.

Greg

And it's appreciated :). Though slightly ironic seeing how much of the panel was people discussing the importance of good sound quality ;)

Yeah, the irony is KILLING ME. Thanks though. I wish the audio was of a better quality but there's very little we can do after the fact.

Greg

Off topic question (Since I don't want to parrot about the sound) but was Gavin at the Expo this year? Loved the concert last year and am wondering if I should get excited.

The audio volume was really low so I had to turn all my other sound coming from other areas off in order to hear it.

It was ideal to hear while playing Hearthstone so definitely worth it. Can't wait for the next panels.

Gone Rampant:
Off topic question (Since I don't want to parrot about the sound) but was Gavin at the Expo this year? Loved the concert last year and am wondering if I should get excited.

I saw him in all of the Q&A panels. I can't remember if he was in any others.

Greg Tito:
Unfortunately, due to some technical problems with the audio, we only have the source from one directional mic in the balcony. We decided to upload the panel video, rather than keep the content from you guys, but we're investigating ways to improve the audio quality now.

Greg

Glad to hear it was a technical problem and not an intended choice by the convention support staff. Hopefully the other panels fared better than this one.

Thanks for the clarification.

The audio was perfectly fine with headphones.

Lots of echo on here. Hopefully the other panels aren't as disrupted by this. I really like listening to these sorts of things from events and conferences

EDIT: Thanks above commenter. Headphones did help a bit. The white noise doesn't disrupt it as much.

While it's true that the sound quality is bad, it might be useful to remember that there was some stuff last year that never got recorded/uploaded, so we might as well be thankful for getting anything.

The Plunk:
Edit: Although I don't like Smosh, it was interesting to hear the point of view of someone whose videos are almost the polar opposite of TotalBiscuit's.

They kinda have different target audiences which respond differently. Smosh's primary audience are 14-17 y.o. males. TB's 25-35 y.o. males.

Just to prepare myself mentally.
Was there a sound issue with this panel, some of the panels or all the panels?

SO watched it now, interesting to see different perspectives coming from different backgrounds, this really put some food for thought up. What i got from it though is that sound quality is king, so i guess time to start using something better than 5 dollar microphone :P

GladiatorUA:

The Plunk:
Edit: Although I don't like Smosh, it was interesting to hear the point of view of someone whose videos are almost the polar opposite of TotalBiscuit's.

They kinda have different target audiences which respond differently. Smosh's primary audience are 14-17 y.o. males. TB's 25-35 y.o. males.

that is very well spotted i guess. when i was 14 i liked smosh videos, now i like TBs videos and hate smosh, yeah im a stereotype i know :P

GladiatorUA:

The Plunk:
Edit: Although I don't like Smosh, it was interesting to hear the point of view of someone whose videos are almost the polar opposite of TotalBiscuit's.

They kinda have different target audiences which respond differently. Smosh's primary audience are 14-17 y.o. males. TB's 25-35 y.o. males.

Err, males only? I don't think TB cares as long as you view his vid(s). Not sure about smosh though, never saw that. But why only say they are targeting males specifically?

OT: ust like the livestream, the audio is still very echo-y, making it hard to hear what they are saying. At least it's a learning experience.

Still, quite an interesting panel here. Looking forward to the next batch of panels next year as well.

Greg Tito:

jackdeesface:

Greg Tito:
Unfortunately, due to some technical problems with the audio, we only have the source from one directional mic in the balcony. We decided to upload the panel video, rather than keep the content from you guys, but we're investigating ways to improve the audio quality now.

Greg

And it's appreciated :). Though slightly ironic seeing how much of the panel was people discussing the importance of good sound quality ;)

Yeah, the irony is KILLING ME. Thanks though. I wish the audio was of a better quality but there's very little we can do after the fact.

Greg

Adobe Audition. Effects> Noise Reduction, Effects> Special > Mastering. Hard to reduce the echo, but you can make the audio present much crisper and boost the presence of the voices. Screw it, I'm going to download the stream and do it myself xD

I'll just put up the audio on Soundcloud when done. Easy enough to rejoin it to the video.

Like others I've got no love whatsoever for Smosh but it was an interesting panel and good for Jovenshire's and Total Biscuit's views. The others too, of course, but I saw stuff from them last year so I was more focused on the guests.

https://soundcloud.com/herenow-productions/escapist-expo-2013-how-to

Did what I could to improve audio. Namely removed as much background as I could, applied a hard limiter to reduce loudness of applause relative to speech, and did what I could to boost vocals. Like they said, there isn't MUCH you can do after the fact (especially with so much echo, and audience closer to mic relative to talent). It is a better listen to me at least, can't speak for everyone. Time to listen to it on the way to work! xD

Off topic (with apologies) - there was suppose to be a pannel about British expats. Is there a link to that?

hickwarrior:
Err, males only? I don't think TB cares as long as you view his vid(s). Not sure about smosh though, never saw that. But why only say they are targeting males specifically?

I'm not talking about them targeting males. Couple of month ago TB opened up his viewer stats and the main two were males 25-35, males 18-24 and I don't remember... either 14-17 or 36-45.
And about smosh's stats, TB specifically asked him what was his audience. He said that they had great following of 14-17 y.o.

I found it really interesting and I enjoyed it but when Greg talked about how he saw his role as that of a stage manager it got me thinking. This expo seemed to lack some of the vitality of last years and when I compare his role with the one done by Susan last year it just does not measure up. He's on stage and the personality, vitality and dynamism provided give the whole event context. you can't take back seat when you're being the MC and last year Susan never once faded into the background and it gave the entire event its fun and personality while truly letting the contributors shine.

I wasn't there and maybe he pulled all the stops out off camera but I wish there was more of a unique character endowed upon the proceedings. It was still good but not nearly so memorable...

herenowit:
https://soundcloud.com/herenow-productions/escapist-expo-2013-how-to

Did what I could to improve audio. Namely removed as much background as I could, applied a hard limiter to reduce loudness of applause relative to speech, and did what I could to boost vocals. Like they said, there isn't MUCH you can do after the fact (especially with so much echo, and audience closer to mic relative to talent). It is a better listen to me at least, can't speak for everyone. Time to listen to it on the way to work! xD

Holy shit, this is a major improvement. The echo is still pretty bad, but fixing that sort of thing is a lost cause.

Maybe The Escapist should hire you to handle audio next time...

Dayum, Dodger was stalked at PAX East. TB spills the beans there.

To tell the truth, the reason I'm here on the site at the moment is because TotalBiscuit was at the Expo, so I knew he would be in some of the panel videos.

I actually haven't been on The Escapist on a regular everyday basis in I believe two or three months. This week I came back when TB said he would be at the Expo so I checked in regularly to see those videos.

Last year, summer of 2012 I was introduced to some of the really good and professional YouTube personalities, and from that point on I more and more started using YouTube as my main source of entertainment.

So I guess that relates on how YouTube has grown enough in presence and "weight" in gaming industry and the entertainment industry in general, because before that summer, if somebody had told me that I would be going to YouTube everyday and regularly watching over a dozen different video makers for more than an hour a day and occasionally buying t-shirts that they have commissioned to sell to fans, I would have told you that you were crazy because nothing of real worth is produced on YouTube other than cute cat and animal videos and other mindless entertainment.

I might come back now and again for some forum talk, cause obviously YouTube, while good and great stuff is produced there now, the quality of conversations is lacking, and it is hard to track comments in the first place.

 

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