Jimquisition: Sexual Failing

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Sexual Failing

Some developers will have you believe they are purveyors of tasteful, mature, adult sexual content. Some developers are talking out of their arses.

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Anybody else getting a stream not found message?

Orcboyphil:
Anybody else getting a stream not found message?

I am, I can't watch it either :(

I've actually been thinking on this matter for a fair while now. Thanks for bringing it out in the open, Jim!

Weaver:

Orcboyphil:
Anybody else getting a stream not found message?

I am, I can't watch it either :(

Dito.

Perhaps he was trying to talk about Garry's Incident and got the video removed preemptively?

This is a conundrum, because I know the minute I leave my computer they'll fix this and the comments will be 3 pages long by the time I get back. But I keep refreshing it'll be two hours before they decide to fix this >(

Edit: Now this is an angle I hadn't really considered, sex just being the goal and not having any impact on the game beyond obtaining it. Hell even Fable 3 handled it more maturely than this. You'd get STDs and pregnancies if you didn't use protection and if you came back to visit your family at least they'd give you presents.

Clearly, whatever devs he is "correcting" in this vid got to it. Nowhere is safe.......

Can't watch it here either. Hopefully it will be fixed before I have to get to work.

CorvusFerreum:

Weaver:

Orcboyphil:
Anybody else getting a stream not found message?

I am, I can't watch it either :(

Dito.

Perhaps he was trying to talk about Garry's Incident and got the video removed preemptively?

Nah. I'm getting the same "Stream Not Found" error that Unskippable was giving this morning. I'm guessing they're working on it.

But just in case, I'm posting that I'm getting it so more people know.

jims obviously too sexy for this video and not enough people prayed to him this week :)

That's why I think the Witcher 2 handles sex the best. It's not portrayed as a "reward", or the culmination of anything. It's just something Geralt does every now and then when he feels like it. Much like a person does in real life.

Captcha: "And that's the way it is". Yes it is, Captcha. Yes it is.

EDIT: Also can I just say how terribly I'm looking forward to the reaction to this vid at the Bioware Social Network? I can only imagine the rage at Jim for calling out their precious romances. It will be glorious!

As someone who was able to watch it, good video Jim. Mass Effect especially has always felt like "Say good thing, get bare asses, achievement unlocked".

Cracked up at the Heavy Rain footage as well.

Why do this feel like filler episode? Maybe because this should be bloody obvious for everyone. Know what, would probably be more progressive and mature to just make it a one-night stand and drop the talking.

Personally, I think such explicit scenes such as sex are better left to the player's imagination. If people like your game enough, you can assure yourself that the more explicit of actions are taken care of by fan fiction - No need to include it in your game. You can still hint at some explicit actions, but really, some things are better off not seen.

Damn they really should just upload to youtube at the same time so that if things like this happen we can watch it on their channel instead. Will check back later to see if they actually get the video working though.

I like God of War's approach to sex. You get a mini-game and if you do bad the girls are disappointed and Kratos just stands there thinking, "I swear, this has never happened to me before. Let me try it again." because that's all sex is, right? a really awkward minigame with quicktime events and a failstate that leaves everyone disappointed and some people crying in shame. but you do get better with practice.

Hey! My dwarf's relationship with Stevren in DAO was some of the most tasteful mdme (Male dwarf on male elf) I've ever encountered.

Thank you Jim. Now when ever I talk to people about how stupid sex in video games is I can just link to this. You hit every single one of my problems with this topic in this one. Way to knock it out of the park.

Worst offender: Jack in Mass Effect 2

For everyone having problems viewing the video, we are looking into the issue. Thank you for your patience and Thank God for Jim.

Zachary Amaranth:

CorvusFerreum:

Weaver:

I am, I can't watch it either :(

Dito.

Perhaps he was trying to talk about Garry's Incident and got the video removed preemptively?

Nah. I'm getting the same "Stream Not Found" error that Unskippable was giving this morning. I'm guessing they're working on it.

But just in case, I'm posting that I'm getting it so more people know.

I'm sure it is a technical error. It just was a feeble attempt at humour.

The whole idea that the gaming industry can provide a mature, adult experience is about as ridiculous as thinking that TV shows, blockbuster films, or pop music tracks can provide mature, adult experiences. By and large, those sectors of the entertainment industry only succeed because they provide a constant supply of adolescent fantasy fodder, i.e. that territory of primal 'feeding, f*#king, fighting' wish-fulfillment that attracts people of all ages. If people wanted to act adult or mature, they probably wouldn't bother playing games, watching movies, listening to sexually-charged music, etc... These things provide escapes from the perceived dreariness of adult life, act as denials of one's own mortality, serve as outlets from a life beset by limitations, etc... If anything, as the economy presses further on towards the global capitalist peak, these forms of entertainment are bound to become even more immature, more pandering to the above-mentioned three F's. At least that's how I felt after seeing footage of recent hits like GTA V.

I'm getting the commercials just fine.

Aye aye... I enjoy romance in games, but the sex scenes themselves are usually cringe worthy at best. SWTOR has the characters kiss, then a fade to black, and it is just as well really. That said, romance and search for love is such a vital part of the human experience, simply foregoing it makes no sense either. I just wish we could have someone making video games who could, you know, ACTUALLY WRITE.

Not that I disagree with what you say, but I think it'd have been good to say what you think the alternative to it is. It's all well and good pointing out how the sex scenes are often done poorly, but you never really say how they could do it maturely.

Judging from what you say, I cannot think of a scenario where sex could be shown in a game that you'd consider to be mature. Especially as you mention it not affecting the story as a reason for it being pointless.

It is difficult enough to do anything sexual without accusations of pandering as it is. Considering actually showing sexual content can always be avoided by the use of implication and such, I don't think it is really possible to include it without some people claiming it is fan service.

Granted in a lot of cases it is, but by extension many people seem to think it always is, because they have become so cynical about it.

I agree with the Bioware habit, but I think that in Heavy Rain it was just two emotional and tired people relieving stress. It happens.

I just wish that Jim would stop acting like Mass Effect is where Bioware started with this concept. Sure it was the first one where they showed more than first base, but they were already having threesomes in Jade Empire. And that also fell in line with be nice, get laid.

This is a new low. It plays the ad, TWICE, but not the video itself.

Hey all,

The video should be playing properly now. Please let me know if there are anymore problems!

Well, Outlast: Now Bloody Playing had necrophilia, so... porn?

WMDogma:
Hey all,

The video should be playing properly now. Please let me know if there are anymore problems!

It's working now. Ironic that posting a video titled "Sexual Failing" was somehow fucked up :P

In a perfect world, the romance trees would have the option to just fuck and get it out of the way. If I were really cynical, I'd argue that if there was some mechanical benefit, that would be preferable.

I mean, come on guys, I hate sex scenes in movies for being stupid looking, the least you could do is try and not be like movies for once.

Meh, I just skip the sex scenes when they pop up in games like Dragon Age. It looks mediocre and really fucking wrong/robotic.

Is it sad that a game made by people from 4chan (Katawa Shoujo) actually has better idea of what sex is?

It kinda reminds me of the prison shower scene in Mafia II, a sequence wherein the inmates are obviously going to rape the main character (because it´s a cliché and Mafia II wants in on every cliché in the book), but they didn´t really have the balls to actually execute it. First of all everyone is wearing boxers while showering for some odd reason and secondly the main character decides to beat everyone up when they approach him.

It wasn´t something i had any particular interest in seeing, but it just seemed very immature the way they handled it, which was funny because they were obviously trying to make a mature game. But that´s what happens when people has seen too many movies try to tell stories without having any grasp on how things work. It´s the same with David Cage, a lot of clichées (like the sex scene) but apparently no understanding of why it´s included in the scenes he´s trying to rip-off.

Man, I've just thinking about it last week about how these "romance" options seem weirdly forced robotic. I'm glad I'm not the only person who's noticed that.

I think sex should just be one facet of the romantic portions of the game. Romance itself could extend to other parts. What if the main character and love interest held hands during combat, and got combo attacks? That would be pretty neat. Or they'd exchange saucy glances while somebody was trying to divulge some heavy exposition about the seven artifacts that will save the world. You know, interactive romance.

Ponyholder:
Is it sad that a game made by people from 4chan (Katawa Shoujo) actually has better idea of what sex is?

I'm pretty sure those people sent a lot of time thinking about sex and its mechanics. :P

OT: Only thing I disagree with is the shity music bit. I've always loved this song despite not really liking the many of the scenes during which it played.

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