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DOTA

A day in the life of the average DOTA 2 player.

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I can attest to this. It's happened many a time with both League and Dota 2 =P

She didn't play Crystal Maiden did she...

swiftest hero there is!

I <3 CM

Daystar Clarion:
She didn't play Crystal Maiden did she...

swiftest hero there is!

I <3 CM

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Windrunner would like a word...

pfff ern srsly qt dotes2 affer plyin? wut scrub she is. casul fgt. dont evn no hw to uss prper champ sklzz cos she suc a casul fgt. i she were prop pro totes uz legt balanked hro lke faeclss vod ro pantem lanca. bt no she jss a no skil tar so no prise cannt pley gaem. go bk 2 ur legaue of smit crisis noob

KaosuHamoni:
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Please, Lyralei can't hold a candle to Rylai's immense speed.

Hang on a sec, grabbing wards...

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T^T

No, just no..
You see the actual average players play Dota.
It's the impatient people who are not willing to invest time in the game that uninstall it after their first loss.

Daystar Clarion:
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Support? PAH. Everyone knows that full carry teams are the manliest

Rinse and repeat.

hazabaza1:
pfff ern srsly qt dotes2 affer plyin? wut scrub she is. casul fgt. dont evn no hw to uss prper champ sklzz cos she suc a casul fgt. i she were prop pro totes uz legt balanked hro lke faeclss vod ro pantem lanca. bt no she jss a no skil tar so no prise cannt pley gaem. go bk 2 ur legaue of smit crisis noob

Yeah sorry, I don't speak... whatever you call that.

hazabaza1:
pfff ern srsly qt dotes2 affer plyin? wut scrub she is. casul fgt. dont evn no hw to uss prper champ sklzz cos she suc a casul fgt. i she were prop pro totes uz legt balanked hro lke faeclss vod ro pantem lanca. bt no she jss a no skil tar so no prise cannt pley gaem. go bk 2 ur legaue of smit crisis noob

"Pffft. Erin seriously quit DOTA 2 after playing? What a scrub she is. Casual faggot. She doesn't even know how to use proper champion skills because she's such a casual faggot. If she were properly pro she'd totally use legitimately balanced heroes like Faceless Void or Phantom Lancer. But no, she's just a no skill retard so no prize, cannot play game. Go back to your League of Smite Crisis, noob."

So... how'd I do?

OT: That happened to me after I tried to play Combat Arms again after two years of dormancy. Damn that game and all it's hackers to oblivion.

Terraniux:

hazabaza1:
pfff ern srsly qt dotes2 affer plyin? wut scrub she is. casul fgt. dont evn no hw to uss prper champ sklzz cos she suc a casul fgt. i she were prop pro totes uz legt balanked hro lke faeclss vod ro pantem lanca. bt no she jss a no skil tar so no prise cannt pley gaem. go bk 2 ur legaue of smit crisis noob

"Pffft. Erin seriously quit DOTA 2 after playing? What a scrub she is. Casual faggot. She doesn't even know how to use proper champion skills because she's such a casual faggot. If she were properly pro she'd totally use legitimately balanced heroes like Faceless Void or Phantom Lancer. But no, she's just a no skill retard so no prize, cannot play game. Go back to your League of Smite Crisis, noob."

Well.
It took me like five minutes to write that.

I hope you're happy that you ruined my fun.

Whenever the topic of hardcore gamer comes up, or the question is asked "How serious of a gamer are you?" Or something along those lines. I think of DOTA and LoL and realize I haven't fallen completely down the rabbit hole.

Never, not if it was the last game on earth.

Sounds about right. Recently had this experience with Starcraft 2 as well, they just cause too much hardware damage.

I honestly don't get it. Given how toxic the community for MOBAs is considered to be, maybe that's for the best.

hazabaza1:
pfff ern srsly qt dotes2 affer plyin? wut scrub she is. casul fgt. dont evn no hw to uss prper champ sklzz cos she suc a casul fgt. i she were prop pro totes uz legt balanked hro lke faeclss vod ro pantem lanca. bt no she jss a no skil tar so no prise cannt pley gaem. go bk 2 ur legaue of smit crisis noob

This, on the other hand, I got. And it's probably for the worse.

So true it hurts.

I don't think DOTA 2 lasted more than an hour after I installed it the first time before hitting uninstall. Not the sort of thing I care to subject myself to.

I still haven't installed. It's there in my library, waiting. <.<

Heh, quite true, tho i gotta admit i haven't done the deed myself.
At least not yet. But there's always room for progress!

Daystar Clarion:

That was pretty darn adorable.

I can't tell, did she actually get to play the game or not?

DVS BSTrD:
I can't tell, did she actually get to play the game or not?

Indeed, the joke being that she installed, was instantly frustrated, probably by the community more than her own failures and quickly uninstalled. I love playing MOBAS, but never before have I encountered such a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Ishal:
Whenever the topic of hardcore gamer comes up, or the question is asked "How serious of a gamer are you?" Or something along those lines. I think of DOTA and LoL and realize I haven't fallen completely down the rabbit hole.

Never, not if it was the last game on earth.

Good, stay away, for your own good.

There is only pain down that road.

Eventually you'll end up caring, and then the suffering will truly begin.

Never ever get involved in this shit.

AWAR:
No, just no..
You see the actual average players play Dota.
It's the impatient people who are not willing to invest time in the game that uninstall it after their first loss.

Unless you're making a joke as well, I think you missed it.

OT: I hope Erin has a good internet connection with an uncapped bandwidth. I certainly wouldn't do that daily, it takes my internet an hour just to download one gigabyte.

The only thing I took away from this is that erin uses VGA inputs on her monitor for some reason.

Whoa, is that a VGA cable? Is she a cave woman or something?

She's the paragon of self-control! Personally, I'm too scared to venture into the quagmire of DOTA without a friend to lean on. And blame for mis-plays.

I'm glad it wasn't just me then. I was quite enjoying DOTA2, working my way through the off-line tutorials and BOT games. Then I had to play on-line against other players. After several supposedly noob-friendly matches, mostly filled with obviously experienced players telling me to fuck off and die for not being an expert already, I uninstalled it too.

That is one gaming community with a LOT of rage.

Similar experience here.
1 - installed
2 - played ONE Match
3 - was bored to hell, didn't know what to do (because the game sure as heck doesn't give ANY tutorial worth it)
4 - uninstalled, never looked back

And considering the average attidude of the community in the entire GENRE (where "play to win" is more important than "play for fun", where you get literally kicked out when you don't do exactly what you're told to because 'that's needed right now' even if you have way more fun doing something else), I am glad that I never want to play this kind of game ever in my life.

To each their own. It's one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had, hands down.

The only piece of advice I can give to someone is don't start out actually playing the game. I know, I know, sounds stupid. Yet if you spend a little time either reading guides like Purge's "Welcome to Dota, You Suck," watching youtube tutorials, or watching some pro games it will be way more fun the first time you pick up the game (you should also play against bots the first few times instead of just jumping into a game). Either that or make sure you only play with friends when you first start. If you just jump into a game without knowing much about it, well, you are gonna have a bad time. There are some minor tutorials now in game, but they only help a little.

It can be one of the best games you have ever played, but the learning curve is massive and yes, the community can be toxic. If you are not patient and have a thick skin or lots of friends that also play, then the game is not for you.

ThyNameIsMud:
Whoa, is that a VGA cable? Is she a cave woman or something?

I was about to say the same thing - I mean, she even went and got this, and she's still using that old port?

She must have been fighting a Viper.

I swear, If I had a penny every time Viper has done something dickish to me, I could buy Gabe Newell for a whole night.

It should be some sort of gamer-relationship baptism of fire: If you can still be in love after 3 hours of DOTA2, then you deserve it all.

Daystar Clarion:

KaosuHamoni:
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Please, Lyralei can't hold a candle to Rylai's immense speed.

Hang on a sec, grabbing wards...

image

T^T

So true, especially the part about reporting her! Poor CM.

ThyNameIsMud:
Whoa, is that a VGA cable? Is she a cave woman or something?

I use one and I'm no caveman.

OT: Never played DOTA, just not my kind of thing. Didn't even know what it was till yesterday.

I've only ever played a 'DOTA' game briefly, the early version that came out for Starcraft 2. It was okay, but not something I could ever really get that into. However with this constant talk about how toxic the community is and how hard they are on newbs I almost want to install it just to troll people.

scott91575:
The only piece of advice I can give to someone is don't start out actually playing the game. I know, I know, sounds stupid. Yet if you spend a little time either reading guides like Purge's "Welcome to Dota, You Suck," watching youtube tutorials, or watching some pro games it will be way more fun the first time you pick up the game (you should also play against bots the first few times instead of just jumping into a game). Either that or make sure you only play with friends when you first start. If you just jump into a game without knowing much about it, well, you are gonna have a bad time. There are some minor tutorials now in game, but they only help a little.

It can be one of the best games you have ever played, but the learning curve is massive and yes, the community can be toxic. If you are not patient and have a thick skin or lots of friends that also play, then the game is not for you.

That's the same advice that I've heard others say about learning DOTA. I play LoL, myself, and that community is toxic enough, even with the whole Tribunal thing going (though it has gotten a little better, at least to me). I will say one of the best pieces of advice I read in one of those very guides you mention, which I instantly applied to my playing in LoL, is that the very first time someone starts insulting you, calling you "noob" and whatever else, don't bother arguing back with them; just put them immediately on ignore and get on with enjoying the game. Following this advice has made my game experience in LoL much, much more relaxing and enjoyable (even though I still accumulate losses).

As far as I know, and I admit I could be quite wrong on this point, DOTA doesn't have quite the same behavioral enforcement that LoL has developed. LoL's community is about as toxic as I can stand, and it has behavioral enforcement (although I will never play a ranked game because of the expected toxicity, based on the progression of it from bots to blind pick PvP). So, I've mostly stayed away from DOTA for fear of having to deal with a level of toxicity that would just completely rob the game of any sense of fun. I will admit, I feel I may be doing myself a slight disservice, because the gameplay in DOTA looks to be far deeper than LoL's.

However, I will have to say that I don't care how thick a skin you have; unless you're an unfeeling, uncaring husk (or a robot), getting yelled at constantly for even the slightest error is a soul-syphoning experience that robs the game of any and all fun.

To be honest, I've never understood the extreme rage factor that develops in MOBAs. I've seen rage in MMO PvP before, but it was usually almost comical in its nature. But the rage I've experienced directed at me, and others, in LoL was just vicious and malicious. I had a guy actually make a death-threat against me, at one point. I've never had that in MMO PvP. I know I'm not the best player, but that kind of thing is just uncalled for on any level, in my opinion.

I've never understood how anyone can have trouble with Dota. The game is exceptionally straight forward. Read the description of the roles. Have a look at all the heroes. Play the extensive tutorial that teaches you ever phase of the game. Play against bots. Play against bots with people. Play a real game. Work out if it's best to 2 1 2, 3 1 1 or 0 1 3 + jungle. Communicate. Press buttons.

    1 Hard Carry
    1 Semi-Carry
    1 Utility (varies depending on team makeups)
    1 Support
    1 Hard Support

Where do people have problems? Do they just dive into a game with no idea what anything is? You can't be having shit teams more than the enemy - rule of averages. The low skill brackets are also super easy to tear up; just pick Riki, SB, Husk or Drow, etc., and roll the enemy until it stops working. Welcome to mid tier bracket. Don't be an idiot. Understand the roles. Welcome to high tier bracket. Now it's challenging.

I think people must assume they can just pick any hero they like the look of and do anything they want. Rambo, one man army, "I do whatever I want" tactics don't work in multiplayer strategy games.

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