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Thor: The Dark World

MovieBob puts the hammer down on the upcoming Thor movie.

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I saw it in iMax last night. HOLY SHIT!!!

Some movies are really not meant to be in 3D. This is a fast paced, hard action movie. So, instead of enjoying the spectacle of "Wow, this is bigger than life" I just got a bit sick.

I thought the movie was pretty damn awesome though. Like I said, it's a fast paced, hard action movie, and it so much delivers on that. I'm going to have to watch it again in a theater where I can sort of take in what's going on more easily.

Also, can anyone explain to me the post credits reveal...please? This was a part where no one pretended to know what was going on...

EDIT: Okay, so I got four different people who explained to me the post-credits scene. Thank you!

I think I agree with you, Bob. Definitely grade-A stuff, (Especially the last fight scene), but it could use some padding.

I loved the movie. I thought it was a good ol' time with some pretty awesome action sequences and genuinely funny moments. Did feel a bit rushed at times, but I can forgive that though.

My overall enjoyment of the movie however, was hampered by all the Loki fans who would NOT shut up whenever he was on screen! These are some of the worst people to see a Thor movie with. I understand laughing and "Ooh"-ing throughout a movie that you're enjoying, but these fans take it to a whole new level of obnoxious.

I saw this monday and while I still think Natalie Portman is mis-cast as Jane Foster (in a humour filled film, she tries but fails) overall its a lot of fun and a good reminder of why the Marvel films have been so successful. Bob is spot on when he says they're embracing the light, funny & downright crazy side of the comics instead of playing it down (like Man of Steel) and considering how a lot of focus recently in TV and film has been towards the grim and gritty its nice for a series to be bucking that trend.

Also, it wasn't just the 3D print that was like that. 2 out of the 3 main settings had the grey filter on high (though in fairness the London scenes deserved it) and the Asgard scenes seemed a lot duller then in the 1st film.

Conner42:
I saw it in iMax last night. HOLY SHIT!!!

Some movies are really not meant to be in 3D. This is a fast paced, hard action movie. So, instead of enjoying the spectacle of "Wow, this is bigger than life" I just got a bit sick.

I thought the movie was pretty damn awesome though. Like I said, it's a fast paced, hard action movie, and it so much delivers on that. I'm going to have to watch it again in a theater where I can sort of take in what's going on more easily.

Also, can anyone explain to me the post credits reveal...please? This was a part where no one pretended to know what was going on...

I didn't get it either at first.

I thought it was pretty poorly done. The make-up in particular seems so cheap in that scene.
Also, the 3D looked fine to me.

BTB, I think you forgot to make a pun unless there's something about "Game Over" that worked for Thor as well as Ender.

Also, you really think that's where they're going with Princess "Not Peach so we can have Peach be playable"?

It was okay, better than Iron Man 3 but then everything is better than Iron Man 3.

BUT WHAT IS WITH THE TERRIBLE VILLAINS!

Seriously both this and IM3 have the most boring and dull bad guys ever. I really hope they can improve there villains in future MCU films because 2013 has been a total flop in delivering interesting and threatening villains (outside of the trailers anyway).

You just all have sucky theaters. Dolby 3d with Dolby atmos were perfect. It was a really fun movie and the converted 3d was good (not wizard of oz good, but pretty good). and I'm picky about my 3d. Plus had some great momements. Frigga and jane was one of the best parts. and no references to the pink girl and the mugato ripoff character bob? I am dissapoint : )

inb4 complaints about Loki being uninteresting and a bad villain.

I enjoyed it. Loki was definitely more fun to watch than Malacith, even though I'm a Christopher Eccleston fan. Any time dark elves make an appearance in fiction/fantasy is a plus in my book. I agree with Bob in that this was more wacky and Flash Gordon esque. Some things should have been explained better, but overall it was pretty good. If they can do something like this I can't wait to see people's reactions to Guardians of the Galaxy.

Is there a reason China has such arbitrary restrictions on what is displayed in their country?

I mean, aside from the fact that it's china, but still. One would hope there's some logic behind the restrictions.

I've seen this twice now. The first time I had to see it in 3D because the 2D showing was full(the first time that has ever happened to me since like... The Return of the King?). I agree on how bad the 3D is. Every action scene was super blurry and the the final part of the last battle in the red mist was so dark that you couldn't really see it with the glasses on. 2D on the other hand looked pretty great. Taylor really nails it. The film has a kind of scope to it that I don't think most of the other Marvel films can match, and not just because of the whole 9 worlds stuff. That final battle seemed huge.

Agreed about how hurried the film is and the need for a longer cut, especially from the scene you mentioned. That could have been a really fantastic scene.

Surprised you didn't mention how boring Malaketh was as a villain. He only really talks to any of the characters like... twice. Really seems like kind of a waste of hiring Christopher Eccleston when you can barely tell it's him. I wouldn't have known if I hadn't sat through the credits for the bonus scene(which was awesome).

LOKI! LOKI! LOKI! LOKI!

He owned so many scenes in this movie, which just made it even better for me. (Even though its stupid and wont happen, I want Loki to have his own movie. Even if its just him insulting people for an hour).

Kumagawa Misogi:
It was okay, better than Iron Man 3 but then everything is better than Iron Man 3.

Seriously? Until this came out, I thought Iron Man 3 was the best comic/super hero movie this year, easily edging out Man of Steel and Wolverine. I get the plot twist with Mandarin and the general attitude of keeping it light and humorous instead of being series turned off a lot of people, but it was, by no means, a bad film in that regard. Just not the typical comic movie we've really come to expect at this point.

OT: I loved this movie more than I expected, and I went in with lower expectations given how the first one wasn't such a solid piece itself. Loki kind of stole the show, which I think helps make up for the lack of padding for this film. A little bit of filler to maybe make the villain more interesting or give the Warriors 3 and Sif some more characterization and screen time would have been nice, but twice now they haven't gotten much for those supporting characters and I'm not really expecting it at this point either. By no means a perfect movie, it's still pretty damn good overall.

Zenron:
Surprised you didn't mention how boring Malaketh was as a villain. He only really talks to any of the characters like... twice. Really seems like kind of a waste of hiring Christopher Eccleston when you can barely tell it's him. I wouldn't have known if I hadn't sat through the credits for the bonus scene(which was awesome).

I know what you mean. You really couldn't tell "Who" that was. *gets looks* I know...I know...I'm a terrible person for making that pun.

BTW...that last bit in the credits. (Of this video, not Thor.) You seem to be hinting at a Mario game...and you seem to be hinting that that thing in the bottle in Bowser's grubby claw is a Subconian. Surely not! That game wasn't even techncally suposed to be a Mario game!

Conner42:

Also, can anyone explain to me the post credits reveal...please? This was a part where no one pretended to know what was going on...

I rarely skulk out of my cave and into the theaters. Typically I prefer to wait for Blu-Ray. But yeah, I'll probably head out to see this one today. I was shocked by how much I liked THOR and am really eager to see the follow up.

wooty:
LOKI! LOKI! LOKI! LOKI!

He owned so many scenes in this movie, which just made it even better for me. (Even though its stupid and wont happen, I want Loki to have his own movie. Even if its just him insulting people for an hour).

Check out Kieron Gillen's "Journey Into Mystery" run for the best Loki has ever been...

I got to see this two weeks ago here and I pretty much agree with what Bob though. Great movie, just a little rushed. And I totally agree with the 3D issue. I actually passed on going to a release screening because no one near me was showing it in 2D,

Conner42:
Also, can anyone explain to me the post credits reveal...please? This was a part where no one pretended to know what was going on...

Well the two main things to take away from it is:

1. The Collector. This is a character who is basically immortal and a lone survivor of one of the universes first sentient races. Being immortal he keeps himself certain by collector whatever catches his fancies, weapons, art, animals, people etc. Apparently he is going to have a role in Guardians of the Galaxy.

2. The Infinity Gauntlet. Volstagg refers to both the Tesseract (from Captain America and Avengers) and the Aether as both being Infinity Gems. There are six "Infinity Gems" in the Marvel universe that each grant some special powers to the wielder. These gems were used by Thanos (guy revealed in the Avengers post-credit scene) which granted him near omnipotence with which he uses to kill half of the population of the universe[1]. It's presumed that the other "gems" will be discovered in upcoming movies and that this will all come together in Avengers 3.

[1] Don't worry, they get better.

Omnicide:
Is there a reason China has such arbitrary restrictions on what is displayed in their country?

I mean, aside from the fact that it's china, but still. One would hope there's some logic behind the restrictions.

It mostly seems to be an attempt to protect the Chinese film industry. The fear being that if a place like Hollywood was allowed to flood the Chinese market with films then Chinese ticket buyers would not buy as many tickets for the films made by the Chinese studios.

Also a bit of a leverage thing. By limiting the number of films then Hollywood has to bend more and more to what China wants to get one of it's films onto the Chinese market. A bit like with Transformers 4 where it seems the involvement of the US military has been scaled back and parts of the film were actually filmed in China with Chinese actors just to make sure it will be one of the lucky films to make the cut.

Loved the movie, but seriously, enough with the 3D!
And a big screen doesn't make up for framerate or resolution either.
These movies aren't even shown in 2D anymore where I live, and being forced to pay double the price for a blurry mess and a headache is just a ripoff.
If they had at least done the hobbit thing where you can actually see what's going on while the camera moves, but noooo, scenes are too expensive, let's sneak in several seconds of motion blur on the entire screen, people won't notice the movie stopped.
Love the movie, but I've come to loathe cinema.

I wonder if some of the "fat" scenes were taken out this time because it felt like there was too much of that kind of thing in the first one?

Edit to add: Thanks for the insight on the 3d being added for China?

They really need to pick who the hell Jane Foster is supposed to be and just stick with that. If she isn't a perfect example of a Anita Sarkeesian trope I don't know what is.

And now it looks like they are leading up to a freaking love rivalry between Foster and Sif. That plot device has been hackneyed and tired since the craptastic 80s hack and slash film Ator. Or even Archie comics. So I guess no matter how smart, strong, talented, or independent women get in these films, they still turn into slavering dogs fighting over the scraps when an Alpha Male walks among them. Hooray for social progress.

*SPOILER* The theater i went to see this filled up the whole place with laughter during the Captain America cameo

Andrew Siribohdi:
I think I agree with you, Bob. Definitely grade-A stuff, (Especially the last fight scene), but it could use some padding.

That was the biggest problem with the first one too. Thor completely reverses his character in a whole weekend. This had a different director too. And considering those were major issues with the other Marvel movies (with the exception of the Iron Man series and Hulk), I wonder if they'll ever get them right.

Bob, I feel sorry that you had to watch the 3D version. I made the mistake of watching Avengers in 3D, and it made my eyes hurt

I need to see this yesterday.

Conner42:
I saw it in iMax last night. HOLY SHIT!!!

Some movies are really not meant to be in 3D. This is a fast paced, hard action movie. So, instead of enjoying the spectacle of "Wow, this is bigger than life" I just got a bit sick.

I thought the movie was pretty damn awesome though. Like I said, it's a fast paced, hard action movie, and it so much delivers on that. I'm going to have to watch it again in a theater where I can sort of take in what's going on more easily.

Also, can anyone explain to me the post credits reveal...please? This was a part where no one pretended to know what was going on...

As for the movie I saw it on day of release over here (UK got it 30th Nov. Too bad Americans) and I loved it. I think it is the best of the marvel movies (except for the Avengers) and I have to say I feel bad for anyone who saw that in 3D. I saw it in 2d and it was epic but the action did seem far too fast to work in 3d without it being filmed in 3d.

Kumagawa Misogi:
BUT WHAT IS WITH THE TERRIBLE VILLAINS!

Seriously both this and IM3 have the most boring and dull bad guys ever. I really hope they can improve there villains in future MCU films because 2013 has been a total flop in delivering interesting and threatening villains (outside of the trailers anyway).

I think Marvel in general has a lack of decent villains. The villains have the been the weak link in almost all their movies. It hasn't been a dealbreaker, because most Marvel heroes are about overcoming their personal issues and flaws than fighting bad guys, but it can keep those films an inch away from greatness. And they're certainly not helped by the rights to their most interesting villains being in the hands of other studios. After Magneto, Doctor Doom, and the better members of Spider-Man's rogue's gallery, who's actually decent for Marvel? The only interesting one has been Loki, and how much of that is because of Tom Hiddleston?

Zenron:
Agreed about how hurried the film is and the need for a longer cut, especially from the scene you mentioned. That could have been a really fantastic scene.

Surprised you didn't mention how boring Malaketh was as a villain. He only really talks to any of the characters like... twice. Really seems like kind of a waste of hiring Christopher Eccleston when you can barely tell it's him. I wouldn't have known if I hadn't sat through the credits for the bonus scene(which was awesome).

I read an Eccleston interview somewhere where he implies he's in a couple hours of footage that weren't used. So an extra vote for that extended version from me.

Nice review as always. I'm mainly commenting however, on how moviebob's earlier thoughts about the avengers are coming true. We're seeing what essentially amounts to our first large scale multi character continuity in movies, and it's interesting to see how the industry, especially critics (even including moviebob who predicted this) dealing with it as it becomes increasingly complex. I wonder if there may come a time when the movies suffer because of audiences and critics alike struggling to keep up. Hell, what if it even becomes a challenge for the writers and directors to stick to the avengers canon? We've had multiple characters having their own movies/shows from the same franchise before, doctor who being a prime example, but we haven't had one that was set up towards a big crossover movie, and what's more, to continue the individual characters on from that crossover.

They've already been confirmed as "Sprixies" not "subcons" Sorry, Bob.

ConanThe3rd:
BTB, I think you forgot to make a pun unless there's something about "Game Over" that worked for Thor as well as Ender.

Also, you really think that's where they're going with Princess "Not Peach so we can have Peach be playable"?

So it wasn't just me who thought that was odd. It's more fitting to have it say "Dork World" or "Hammer Head" or anything to do with the movie.

Personally I thought the stinger at the end with the Collector looked like something out of Doctor Who. Seriously, if that was the opening sequence in an episode of Doctor Who I wouldn't think there was anything at all out of place.

Is the giant laser canoes thing a real because that might be my new favourite thing in the world.

Falseprophet:

Kumagawa Misogi:
BUT WHAT IS WITH THE TERRIBLE VILLAINS!

Seriously both this and IM3 have the most boring and dull bad guys ever. I really hope they can improve there villains in future MCU films because 2013 has been a total flop in delivering interesting and threatening villains (outside of the trailers anyway).

I think Marvel in general has a lack of decent villains. The villains have the been the weak link in almost all their movies. It hasn't been a dealbreaker, because most Marvel heroes are about overcoming their personal issues and flaws than fighting bad guys, but it can keep those films an inch away from greatness. And they're certainly not helped by the rights to their most interesting villains being in the hands of other studios. After Magneto, Doctor Doom, and the better members of Spider-Man's rogue's gallery, who's actually decent for Marvel? The only interesting one has been Loki, and how much of that is because of Tom Hiddleston?

I thought the villains in both the first two Iron Man (Jeff Bridges and Mickey Rourke were good), Hulk (Tim Roth another good one) and Captain America (you can't go wrong with Hugo Weaving) films were good much better than this year's outings even Loki wasn't that interesting in the first Thor.

And I have to be honest I don't have high hopes for Ultron (I've only seen him in animation were he was one of the dullest enemies).

But just because a bad guy in the comics is boring or generic doesn't mean they will be in film it's this year they have been.

PLEASE! let the Winter Soldier be good!

Also please let it be Fox that has the rights to the Kree and Skrull more CGI alien invasion Avengers films we don't need.

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