Zero Punctuation: Ryse: Son of Rome

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Ryse: Son of Rome

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Ryse: Son of Rome.

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And so the current gen begins. Weird I thought it would be Dead Rising 3 this week.

But yeah I've pretty much heard what's been said in the episode about Ryse. Besides the fact that the combat could be fun maybe there's little that interests me in it. Oh well back to Dead Rising 3 I go!

I guess it is very noticeable that this game originated as a Kinect exclusive on the XBox 360.

I was actually looking forward to this game, hoping it would be more of a open level and unit commanding approach... I was even prepared to play it on Kinect, god damn it. I really wish we could get a good game like this (if there is already, please point me to it, that would be much appreciated - and no 40K: Space Marine doesn't count and neither does Star Citizen, I mean actual Roman Empire, not the copycats). It seems it isn't meant to happen, though.

I also hear there are microtransactions, but I think those are only in the multiplayer.

The line that got me this episode was: "Throwing pilums at pillocks."
[edit] oh wow. Just found out that the plural of Pilum is in fact: Pila. "Throwing Pila at pillocks" does not roll off your tongue anywhere near as nice as the afore mentioned line.
I found Ryse to be utterly mediocre from a gameplay perspective, but indeed pretty damn lovely to look at.
I also remember reading that Crytek were thinking of taking out the QTEs... yet they didn't. They just replaced the button prompts with colour prompts. tsk tsk

Honestly, from the moment I saw the E3 trailer I knew Ryse would be a bad game. Not just because it seems to be a literal manifestation of quick time events but because I could tell it was going for the walking tour of big set-pieces kind of game that CoD and other such games have recently become. I wonder if Yahtzee's had the chance to let any of us Aussies have a try with the XBox One voice commands? I'm genuinely curious as to whether the thing can understand us and I have no friends that own a XBone to try one.

Not surprised in the slightest. Even the E3 trailer was woefully underwhelming; what chance did the rest of the game have?

Now they can with no shame put on their box this quote:

"10\10"
Zero Punctuation

I've been looking forward to this review. Every time I see anything to do with this game a level of boredom that actually exhibits some physical weight comes down upon me. "I hear he seeks vengeance. I hear he seeks the truth." And I hear the writers of this game all hanged themselves halfway through writing the bloody thing.

And then I saw the gameplay. Inhuman, awkward animations that, as Yahtzee says, has characters slide across half a map to be in place, followed by constant quicktime events for finishers that you can barely even see.

I've seen in multiple places that this is supposed to be the best exclusive game on the Xbox One at the minute. Well if that's the case I'm just glad that Assassin's Creed IV is available on the last generation still, since that's the only game worth buying on either new console.

The more I hear about how the Xbox one is working, the less I want it.

Seriously it takes that long to install FROM THE DISC!?!? On my ps4, you pop a disc in for the first time and give it a minute and your good to go. I was tempted to try and ask for this system for Christmas but now the more I hear, I think I'll wait till march and wheater to get titanfall for xbox one, pc, or 360.

Wait, so they grabbed one of the coolest periods of history, pulled out all the stops to make it look beautiful, and then wantonly ignored actual (awesome) history in favor of a mishmash of what actually happened? WHY?! Why couldn't you have just fought Hannibal? Was it so necessary that they arbitrarily invent a new war for Rome to fight? Were there not enough REAL ones?

Heck, why did the protagonist have to be fictional? Surely they could have had the player play as a soldier in Scipio's army or some such?

Who needs romance when you have Romans?

DeadCoyote:
Now they can with no shame put on their box this quote:

"10\10"
Zero Punctuation

The best lies are the ones that are just true enough.

OT: Surprised he mentioned romance as a missing part of the game; if it was included, I would have been willing to bet it was God of War style shenanigans, which isn't really worth anything.

I can't even worth to say "Meh" about this game. I just went through Youtube and even then this game just bored me.

The line at the end says 'Dare to slander, XXX some XXX.'
...
I think.

So actually have to yell FIRE VOLLEY at your kinect? What the fuck, my neighbors would flip out and call firemen brigade, and rightly so. Someone didn't think this through.

For all it's faults, at-least it's a somewhat original idea for a game. Still, not sure I'd feel right fighting against my own ancestors as the bad guys >.>

This and Knack, both games on next gen but both might as well be on rails. Not played Ryse, but played a little bit of Knack and its gameplay involves walking down little corridors. This is gaming i expect from a few gens ago, not on next gen. No real excuse for it. Now if Knack and Ryse turn into huge gaming environments with lots of freedom of direction, then fine, im wrong in my judgement. But while fun can still be had with both these titles, im not saying these are not fun enjoyable titles, its still a bit disappointing to be playing them on a new console.

Well, I can see why they did not want the QTEs to be called QTE... because you don't even have to do anything to make sure the game doesn't shows how you fucked up the button prompt... (Clever, yet pointless to even color-coat it...)

Also, it seems almost everyone was on the money about it being both unoriginal and basically being the next COD... if they really want to do a Ryse 2: King of Greece or something like that... since, you know, "historical revisionism"...

Maybe i'm just not delusional enough but i can't for the life of me figure out what's the point of Quick Time Events when you don't even have to do them to continue. I mean, in that case you might aswell just not have them and nothing would be lost.

Rome was sacked multiple times throughout history... so they went with the most outlandishly false version?

I viewed this as a glorified tech demo when I first saw it, but then again so are many other lauch games in past generations. However the constant on rails portions made me think they were going in a Heavy Rain/Asura's Wrath direction but when I saw the real time combat it somehow made it come off worse...

...the actual gameplay that people crave made it look worse... how does one even do that?

I haven't really been keeping up with this game, but... really? Barbarians? They make a game about the Roman Empire, one of the largest, most militarily powerful nations in the ancient world, and the only people they can think up for enemies are Barbarians? Granted, there were some big fights with Barbarians, but in general they were never a real threat to Rome until the very end when it been substantially weakened. Did they just not read the parts about how absolutely crushing the Roman legions were for much of Rome's history?

If they really wanted an 'epic' war story, why not set it during the Punic wars? Carthage was actually one of the few real military threats Rome ever faced. And the bulk of the Carthaginian military was made of mercenaries from all over Africa and the Mediterranean, which gives you quite a large variety of enemy types to choose from for your badguys. Also, Carthage actually had, and used, war elephants. Since any game about Rome has to have them.

Can anyone translate the Latin in the credits?

Jman1236:
The more I hear about how the Xbox one is working, the less I want it.

Seriously it takes that long to install FROM THE DISC!?!? On my ps4, you pop a disc in for the first time and give it a minute and your good to go. I was tempted to try and ask for this system for Christmas but now the more I hear, I think I'll wait till march and wheater to get titanfall for xbox one, pc, or 360.

He does suffer from Australian download speeds. In England for example all three games I've downloaded only took 5 minutes to do in general.

JoJo:
For all it's faults, at-least it's a somewhat original idea for a game. Still, not sure I'd feel right fighting against my own ancestors as the bad guys >.>

It's alright, I had to fight against mine in AC3...

After the horrible E3 presentation and follow-up information, I couldn't wait to hear Yahtzee tear into this game. This video did not disappoint.

Adept Mechanicus:
Can anyone translate the Latin in the credits?

According to google translate, it's: 'Slander boldly, something always sticks'.

I can honestly say that, that's the kindest review I've heard for this game.

Apparently it's not very good.

One button gameplay? That is surely jetpack joyride! Except jetpack joyride has the thrill factor of losing at least.

A launch title is shit? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THAT COMING!?

Honestly I don't know why anyone even buys a console until at least a year after it's come out. It's expensive and it has basically no games. Wait till it gets cheaper and has shit worth playing.

Goddamn, I would have hated to be the staff historian on this project. Sounds like the completely disregarded everything he had to say. Nothing new there mind you, the historian who worked on the Last Samurai was rather put out at the writers for ignoring most of his advice and threw in ninjas and battlefield equipment several hundred years out of date.

I mean seriously Boudica? She is perhaps the most sympathetic of all Rome's enemies, considering that when her husband died her kingdom was annexed, she was flogged and her daughters were raped. Plus the fact that she never left the island makes me wonder how the hell she ended up besieging Rome. There have been a lot of sacks of Rome, why not choose an army that actually did it instead of altering history to make your villain seem more important?

Heh, so my first thought upon seeing the word "Ryse" was more or less correct.

rcs619:
If they really wanted an 'epic' war story, why not set it during the Punic wars? Carthage was actually one of the few real military threats Rome ever faced. And the bulk of the Carthaginian military was made of mercenaries from all over Africa and the Mediterranean, which gives you quite a large variety of enemy types to choose from for your badguys. Also, Carthage actually had, and used, war elephants. Since any game about Rome has to have them.

Yeah, they could have gone for Middle Easterners as (some of) the bad guys...

Falterfire:
Wait, so they grabbed one of the coolest periods of history, pulled out all the stops to make it look beautiful, and then wantonly ignored actual (awesome) history in favor of a mishmash of what actually happened? WHY?! Why couldn't you have just fought Hannibal? Was it so necessary that they arbitrarily invent a new war for Rome to fight? Were there not enough REAL ones?

Heck, why did the protagonist have to be fictional? Surely they could have had the player play as a soldier in Scipio's army or some such?

hell the story of boudica is screaming for a revenge filled slaughter fest and burning to the ground of london style game

Is it spunkgargleweewee set in ancient Rome, as you said of the trailer in your last E3 video, or have you dropped the use of that label?

I really hoped that this game was good since I really like the idea of playing as a roman soldier, but going by most reviews the game is either oke or bad and considering how I have to buy a xbox one to play it I'm not interested.

Also going by this review the plot is completely ridiculous, if they wanted a enemy that was actually a threat to Rome they should have made a game based on the second Punic war.

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