Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Review - Episode 10: The Bridge

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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Review - Episode 10: The Bridge

The Midseason Cliffhanger, wherein it appears we will finally find out... how much longer it will take to find out what happened to Agent Philip Coulson.

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There's really only so much faffing about a show can do before it gets ridiculous. This show has reached that point. We get it, theres all this mystery and intrigue goin on. Problem is mystery and intrigue only works when you actually fuckin do somethin with it. Leavin it as a hangin plot point that never remotely gets addressed just makes me not care anymore.

A few observations of my own..

-Raina is playing Po. The simpering submissive thing is an act for her to get to the Clairvoyant. She's a lot more capable than she's pretending to appear.

-Mike tagged Raina when he was "choking her" (Quotes because it was really badly played off). He used the same hand they wiped with the pheromones. Now they have a way to track her if they think about it.

-It looks like the team tightens up pretty well in the coming episodes. Wouldn't be the first time that a team comes together after loosing Coulson.

-Still wondering about the cellist thing. I have a feeling she'll play a big role here soon. And I think Ward knows that Coulson knows about him and May. That's what the whole conversation was about. Coulson basically told him to knock it off..

shintakie10:
There's really only so much faffing about a show can do before it gets ridiculous. This show has reached that point. We get it, theres all this mystery and intrigue goin on. Problem is mystery and intrigue only works when you actually fuckin do somethin with it. Leavin it as a hangin plot point that never remotely gets addressed just makes me not care anymore.

This is how I'm starting to feel - and how I was feeling during the not-metaplot-heavy Device-Of-The-Week episodes midseason. Honestly, this show is losing me because I don't feel enough continuity between episodes.

I wouldn't mind Peterson coming back - he was pleasant and could be a good heavy-hitter that brings back that whole "he's cheating with powers" thread Ward mentioned that strikes close to home with Stark vs Cap. However, that whole "Shield makes the government the good guys" thing brought up a few articles back returned with Peterson's eager compliance with becoming a soldier. It's REALLY uncomfortable to think this is all coalescing into a pro military-industrial complex on par with "Batman hacks cellphones = Bush was right." I know it's all mostly subjective inference, but I'm not sure I can keep watching if that turns out to be the truth.

Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Luke Cage (fixed!).

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Nick Cage.

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

Don't you mean Luke Cage? And I hope they will go that way too. Mike is a good character, strong, instantly likable, and more "normal" than just about anyone else despite being the only one who has actual superpowers. Also, I just love J. August Richards as an actor. If they are setting him up to be Luke Cage in that Netflix-show, I will be ecstatic.

I thought this episode was really good, mostly because of the aforementioned presence of Mike. It also feels like this is the start of the plot, which I welcome with open arms. The buildup has been pretty great, except for the episode before this one which was really dull, but now I really want the multitude of plot-threads to actually GO somewhere.

in case anyone cares MODOK was originally MODOC, mental organism designed only for calculation. The killing thing was what he started doing the second the procedure was over, so he changed his own name.

Silverspetz:

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Nick Cage.

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

Don't you mean Luke Cage?

No, he means the greatest superhero of our generation. The one truth we can cling on to when in times of great peril and darkness.

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On-point, I've no idea how I felt about this episode outside of the fact that when the car Coulson was in exploded I kind of got upset for the split-second that he might have been dead, as well as Peterson.

But all the events in this episode seem to be building toward a lot of climax and drama, which is interesting because most of the stuff prior hasn't stirred me as much. I know I'm curious about what happens next, but that's the point with cliffhanger endings I suppose. Damn TV shows.

I think your overestimating the chances of AoS getting a second season Bob.

This episode ratings were the season's lowest ( 2.0/6 ratings share ) ( 5.92 million viewers behind both CBS and NBC )

AoS has seen a constant rating drop since the pilot with 2 exceptions one of which is the episode advertised as showing the aftermath of Thor the Dark World and the last episode which went against CBS's Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer rather than the regular NCIS.

I'm up to date on the series, and I have to say I'm in the camp that is just kinda meh about it. I really want to love it, but I just don't really care about any of the characters yet. I don't really know what I was expecting going in, but I'm pretty sure what we got isn't it.

This show went in the tank early and has stayed there. If it wasn't backed by Marvel/Disney it would be a cinch to be cancelled. Hopefully it still will be. If we want good stuff, we need to get rid of the crap. Hoping it gets better by the middle of next year does no one any favors.

It's might be too late to revive the cool factor for the Coulson character, but if they can eliminate this show and retcon it away, there might be hope for poor Clarkk Gregg.

Silverspetz:

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Nick Cage.

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

Don't you mean Luke Cage?

Erm...yeah. Oops!

And I hope they will go that way too. Mike is a good character, strong, instantly likable, and more "normal" than just about anyone else despite being the only one who has actual superpowers. Also, I just love J. August Richards as an actor. If they are setting him up to be Luke Cage in that Netflix-show, I will be ecstatic.

I thought this episode was really good, mostly because of the aforementioned presence of Mike. It also feels like this is the start of the plot, which I welcome with open arms. The buildup has been pretty great, except for the episode before this one which was really dull, but now I really want the multitude of plot-threads to actually GO somewhere.

Agreed on just about everything. It'll definitely be messing with the character from the comics but I'm pretty okay with that. The character of Mike the working class superhero totally fits a modern Nick Cage: Hero for Hire for me.

AgentNein:

Silverspetz:

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Nick Cage.

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

Don't you mean Luke Cage?

Erm...yeah. Oops!

And I hope they will go that way too. Mike is a good character, strong, instantly likable, and more "normal" than just about anyone else despite being the only one who has actual superpowers. Also, I just love J. August Richards as an actor. If they are setting him up to be Luke Cage in that Netflix-show, I will be ecstatic.

I thought this episode was really good, mostly because of the aforementioned presence of Mike. It also feels like this is the start of the plot, which I welcome with open arms. The buildup has been pretty great, except for the episode before this one which was really dull, but now I really want the multitude of plot-threads to actually GO somewhere.

Agreed on just about everything. It'll definitely be messing with the character from the comics but I'm pretty okay with that. The character of Mike the working class superhero totally fits a modern Nick Cage: Hero for Hire for me.

Umm, I hate to point this out but, you called him Nick again.

Wait a second...what if Peterson does become the code-named Luke Cage, and he chooses the alias BECAUSE HE'S A FAN OF NIC CAGE?! It would the greatest meta gag ever!

One detail: The movieverse seems to borrow heavily from Ultimate Marvel's aesthetic. So MODOK would be a floating normal human head with some metal tentacles powered by nanomachines.

Which would fit well with all this Extremis fun.

At first I didn't buy the whole 'Life Model Decoy' theory that Bob was passing, but after watching The Avengers yesterday I got a bit more swayed. Particularly, during the scene in which Coulson visits Stark in his penthouse, after his phone is overridden Stark says, "You've reached the Life Model Decoy of Tony Stark." Since it does exist within the established universe, and it seeming like the most likely possibility, I think it might just be true.

I'm pretty sure Mike isn't dead. Why go through all the trouble of explaining how state-of-the art his suit was at monitoring his vitals if only the second reading from it was that he was blown up?

I bet "The Clairvoyent" is from the future, with Clairvoyence being no more then a cover for knowledge of coming events. Future technology would also explain how CENTIPEDE is continuously getting better tech. Perhaps Coulson's survival is altering a time stream where he should have died.

JonB:

shintakie10:
There's really only so much faffing about a show can do before it gets ridiculous. This show has reached that point. We get it, theres all this mystery and intrigue goin on. Problem is mystery and intrigue only works when you actually fuckin do somethin with it. Leavin it as a hangin plot point that never remotely gets addressed just makes me not care anymore.

This is how I'm starting to feel - and how I was feeling during the not-metaplot-heavy Device-Of-The-Week episodes midseason. Honestly, this show is losing me because I don't feel enough continuity between episodes.

True, but a lot of shows workt that way.

They have some sub plots, but besides coulson's dead/resurection, its not that interesting.
Honestly, i think not revealing what happent is wat's keeping it alive for now.
But that won't workt for ever.

spliting the episode did work i think.
The episode had a decent pase, beter build up of story and delivarence of action.
To bad it was just to do a for a cliffhanger.

Also what the hell was up with May, that blow out at Skye wat uncallt for, and not like her.
She isn't the most empathic, but that was cold.

I've been watching this show, but I am not exactly interested in it. I think the problem is that I just don't care about the characters. Coulson was interesting in the movies but in this show the character is being forced into a bureaucrat turned father figure and it doesn't work. The only character who seems the slightest bit self-motivated is Skye and she's just barely an existing being what with her all information should be free attitude. I mean, I get that when I go to work, I am not showing my whole self, but rather putting on an image. Everyone does that - but everyone also goes home at the end of the day and lives a normal life afterward. These characters seem to never show real emotion or desire or motivation. Even with a back story about a kid in a well, Ward just comes off as equivalent to the electrician showing up at my door to fix something. These people LIVE ON A PLANE. It's like being in the navy. Perhaps this "on a plane" thing was meant to recreate the effect of Firefly, but it's missing the point. The characters don't seem to have real relationships. In the end, they just seem like robots on a plane that are programmed to make rhetorical comments and occasionally get angry with each other.

I wonder if the eventual bad guys will turn out to be AIM. They deal with advanced technology and I seem to remember MODOK having a connection to them at least in the newer Avengers 'toons. They might be a decent enemy for SHIELD when they aren't poking Hydra or just generally mooching around after superheroes.

But I'm really getting tired of the show. The only reason I am watching it is to find out what happened to Coulson, I don't give a damn about anyone else because they're all so dull and Coulson is sort of like a loose thread from Avengers. I just hope they don't keep the secret as a ransom to try and trickle out another season.

This is classic Whedon, start so-so, slow build up then by the time this season ends everything will snap together in a way that makes it all freakin amazing.

Why else do all his other shows (not based on things with an already existing fan base) get canceled but leave behind ridiculous cult followings.

(And now I prepare to get bombarded with the real reasons Dollhouse, and Firefly couldn't find legs, because the internet hates all. :P )

I've been meh about the series for a while, but I'm hoping that it'll shape up in January. I'm generally interested in what happened to Coulson, and if that's the focus for the rest of the season it should prove to be an interesting ride.

Every show has rocky beginnings, and AOS is no different. This show has barely kept me watching, and mostly because it's nice to go on ABC.com and watch it every week, almost like back when I had a TV.

However, I think the show's main flaw is that it's not gaining any favor with what should be its target audience. People like us, who want to see nods to the comics, who want crazy awesome characters with backstories, powers, and complex motivations, we're not the ones they're looking at. This show is made for the average joes who saw the movies and like to watch stuff like NCIS. Hell, they're probably even aiming at kids with the main characters never killing anyone.

Daaaah Whoosh:
Every show has rocky beginnings, and AOS is no different. This show has barely kept me watching, and mostly because it's nice to go on ABC.com and watch it every week, almost like back when I had a TV.

However, I think the show's main flaw is that it's not gaining any favor with what should be its target audience. People like us, who want to see nods to the comics, who want crazy awesome characters with backstories, powers, and complex motivations, we're not the ones they're looking at. This show is made for the average joes who saw the movies and like to watch stuff like NCIS. Hell, they're probably even aiming at kids with the main characters never killing anyone.

It's almost like the source material was aimed at k--

Wait A SECOND

HMMMMMMM.

HMMMMMMMMMMM.

I found the drama about the switch at the end of the episode a bit over-acted. I'm a little worried that Weddon's crew has become a little to reliant on old favorites like Buffy and Angel formulas.

If I see a fabulous musical episode, I'm out.

My theory is, if they insist on clairvoyance not being possible, that this guy/thing is from the future.
Bam; time travel is 'science', not magic. Problem solved.
And with Coulson coming back after all, you could claim some sort of timeline-split or alternate future is now shaping up, one that the time traveller didn't come from.

As for time travellers?
Cable is my number one, but he's a mutant and thus has rights issues (movie wise, not human rights wise; oh the irony!!!).
But I am sure Marvel has plenty time travellers, anyway.
Cable would be awesome, because he wants a super utopia future for all, but is willing to play very hard (and sometimes from a distance appearantly evil) to get there. That would make Centipede morally grey, which is of course the best kind, storywise!

P.S.
Bob, your idea for the Clairvoyant is the Orcale from the Matrix, so... that's been done and boring to me.

It's gotten to the point where reading Bob's synopses is far more entertaining than watching the actual show. Only the "clairvoyant" turning out to be MODOK will save this show for me now.

I am hoping for M.O.D.O.K. as well, but i hope they don't go full CGI on him if they do.

The "clairvoyant" could be some one/thing that is able to calculate outcome of misions.
This wouldn't a big stretchs either, it's done al the time.
Only he/it can do it beter.
They may need coulson because they can't calculate why Coulson is alife.

They discribet the guy from prison as a "master tactician", he could fit the bill him self.
Maybe it's a ruse, or he has multiple personalities.
At least he is not totaly mentaly stable, stabbing a guy and finishing his meal.

I don't mind how the show is going, if only because it's how Marvel can tie up loose ends and unanswered questions from the upcoming movies. Remember that as more movies are released, the show has more material to work with. This worked out a lot like other shows, where they had to keep a lot of their juicy stories close to their chest until they figure out if people like the show. Now that it's known to be around a while, we'll probably see the plot crank up a notch or two. AT least I hope so, since now they don't have any reason not to just push the envelope and do what they can to link the show even more to its movie counterparts.

As for The Clairvoyant, there's a number of other possibilities, and I think it has to be more linked to a villain that's already been shown in the movies. MODOK doesn't cut it for me, but you know who we haven't seen a lot of lately? Red Skull. Now I'm not saying he comes back, as he would be a movie-class villain, but what about one of his henchmen? What if CENTIPEDE is an organization created by Arnim Zola to create an army of super soldiers to continue the cause and wait for his Master's return? Arnim wouldn't be as hard to make as MODOK, as he's just a robot with Zola's face on a chest-LCD.

Quiotu:
What if CENTIPEDE is an organization created by Arnim Zola to create an army of super soldiers to continue the cause and wait for his Master's return? Arnim wouldn't be as hard to make as MODOK, as he's just a robot with Zola's face on a chest-LCD.

He's been due, sure, but can network TV afford Toby Jones? I'm honestly not sure where he would fit in pay scale, but I imagine he wouldn't be as costly as Samuel L. At the very least AIM was connected to Extremis during IM 3 so I imagine it has to be involved somehow. Maybe AIM and Hydra teamed up?

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Luke Cage (fixed!).

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

I'd be inclined to believe that myself....if Marvel wasn't already making a separate Luke Cage show for Netflix. :(

Ferisar:

Daaaah Whoosh:
Every show has rocky beginnings, and AOS is no different. This show has barely kept me watching, and mostly because it's nice to go on ABC.com and watch it every week, almost like back when I had a TV.

However, I think the show's main flaw is that it's not gaining any favor with what should be its target audience. People like us, who want to see nods to the comics, who want crazy awesome characters with backstories, powers, and complex motivations, we're not the ones they're looking at. This show is made for the average joes who saw the movies and like to watch stuff like NCIS. Hell, they're probably even aiming at kids with the main characters never killing anyone.

It's almost like the source material was aimed at k--

Wait A SECOND

HMMMMMMM.

HMMMMMMMMMMM.

^ This. Seriously how hard has modern comic fanbases tried to memory hole out the fact that they originally started out as reading material for 7-12 year olds? Bob has been over this several times too. Comics have only been "for adults" Since about the mid 80s. In other words just under 30 years. Compared to 45 or so years if we want to use Superman as a marker for comics beginnings (He's 75 this year in case you haven't heard). Seriously if this show appeals more to kids than adults then I think its doing a good job. Of course its also being helmed by Disney who are masters of making FAMILY entertainment not kids entertainment. I like what the show is doing and I don't want too dark of a show with brooding characters with. Well not another one. I've got Arrow for that and I like Arrow. Also Arrow is proving that good shows or at least shows with potential do need a second season to figure out what they want to do.

Arrow itself is slowly embracing its comic book origins and in the midseason finale did something I didn't expect to see until a year or so from now. Point being is that why is comic book related material suddenly off limits to the original demographic that made it popular in the first place?

Ferisar:

Silverspetz:

AgentNein:
Peterson's going to come back. Maybe they'll put him in some sort of witness protection... his alias will be Nick Cage.

MY crazy fanboy theory, and believe me I've been carrying this torch for awhile.

Don't you mean Luke Cage?

No, he means the greatest superhero of our generation. The one truth we can cling on to when in times of great peril and darkness.

image

On-point, I've no idea how I felt about this episode outside of the fact that when the car Coulson was in exploded I kind of got upset for the split-second that he might have been dead, as well as Peterson.

But all the events in this episode seem to be building toward a lot of climax and drama, which is interesting because most of the stuff prior hasn't stirred me as much. I know I'm curious about what happens next, but that's the point with cliffhanger endings I suppose. Damn TV shows.

The thing is...Coulson most likely cant die (not literally). He's already done that. Dying is a thing a character really cant do a lot of times before it gets ridiculous.

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