Escape to the Movies: The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

MovieBob takes us along with the Dwarves and the lone Hobbit on their trip for honor ... and gold.

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cant wait to finally watch it, I love the hobbit

Interesting. Definitely going to see this. Well I was going to see it anyway, but yeah...

EDIT: Fixed it.

Oh no no no MovieBob!

You forgot the Orange smear and him looking off into the distance with battle-scarred terrain in the background.

I hope to both see Part 1 and Desolation of Smaug this weekend(I put off an unexpected journey because of the time commitment a Peter Jackson-Tolkien movie demands)

Is War Machine (or Iron Patriot or whatever new name he's going to be called by the time the movie rolls around) going to be in Avengers 2? 'Cause this will be the first I've heard if it.

Yeah, didn't see the first one and nothing you said or showed me here gave me the slightest urge to see this one. Everything about it just looks awful, from the comedy dwarf makeup to the crappy Gandalf action scenes.

But then I wasn't overly fond of the original LotR series either - I always felt they sacrificed character for action and spectacle and this looks like it's gone even further the same way.

I strongly suggest to anyone "DONT READ THE HOBBIT" its ok if back in your childhood that have read it and known the basic plot but if you did what I did and actually read the hobbit in a effort to psyche ones self up for the movie.... your making a big mistake.

I enjoyed the movie but every time a characters motivation was changed because Peter wanted to tie the movie into LOTR just annoyed me. Certain things are completely different from the book purely in an attempt to say hey this is still a prequel to my most awesome movieness.

All the extra scenes that don't appear in the book that peter made up feel like cement in a effort to make movie number 2 the 3 hour epic its suppose to be.

Also don't go see the movie in 3D it just ruins the aesthetics and makes an already dark and greyer movie even more bleak.

My biggest annoyment and again this comes from reading the book and enjoying every word is that its a children book and peter wants to make this into LOTR v2.0 which really irks me.

But its still a good movie ....

I never felt like the first hobbit was padded even if it probably was, despite that I still wonder or its really a good idea to make this a trilogy, largely because it feels like the only reason it's a trilogy is because of money.

I'm mostly looking forward to more smaug since he was incredibly awesome in the opening of the hobbit, the fact that he's voiced by benedict cumberbatch only makes me more excited.

I really dug Luke Evans as the Bard great casting choice and Laketown looked great overall. My favorite location visually so far. Smaug was a knockout. The scene with him talking with Bilbo was the best part of the movie in my opinion.

Actually that Tom Cruise movie didnt look that bad, its about time travel and shit, kind of like Source Code.

If anyone is going to go see this then don't see it in 3D. It's just distracting and grainy and terrible and....bleh.

Also, does anyone else see Luke Evans and think "Discount Orlando Bloom" or is it just me?

NinjaDeathSlap:
Is War Machine (or Iron Patriot or whatever new name he's going to be called by the time the movie rolls around) going to be in Avengers 2? 'Cause this will be the first I've heard if it.

First I've heard, too. Google shows some rumory stories from about 17 hours ago, so... mayyybeeee?

Why wasn't he in Avengers? There are some possibilities. War Machine may be exclusively US military and SHIELD is vaguely United Nations Security Councily or maybe NATO-ish. It would make sense for a US Sec Def to be protective of their only "superhero" asset. Another possibility is that after the disaster of having him hacked in IM2 by Vanko and his Hammer-tech being a flop, they didn't believe he could tango with the big boys. (Though, he got hacked AGAIN after that, so... wtf, guys.)

Should he be in Avengers 2? Hell yeah. An updated War Machine (and yes, they should call him War Machine, the Iron Patriot stuff was cute in IM3 but it doesn't work with Cap in the room) could be a lot of fun, even if Tony has essentially the same power set. It's not that hard to make him distinct enough to justify him alongside Iron Man, especially if Rhodey uses a "Hulkbuster Jr.-style" suit with heavy munitions, contrasted with the sleeker standard Iron Man. Or even better, Tony may not be suited up all that much, considering the end of IM3. It would be good for the shared cinematic universe if they could start deemphasizing RDJ in favor of heroes that could get their own shot at a franchise. A War Machine movie would be a way to keep the Iron Man franchise alive (hell, Rhodey could even take the name Iron Man, as well, like he did in the comics). My only concern is that he's been pretty much a running joke for the franchise thus far, so... well... maybe Avengers can right the ship.

Where did this tangent come from? lol

I was going to The Desolation of Smaug expecting more of the same (a very uneasy match between LotR style epic and the simple Hobbit story) and was pleasantly surprised. It was a fun, fast movie and I was genuinely interested in the 'extra stuff' outside the actual Hobbit story. I'm still doubtful about the necessity of making three films out of it, but I'm really starting to enjoy that they did. I might go see it again next week.

My highlights: Smaug, Bard and Tauriel were very good, Lake Town and the Lonely Mountain looked great and Legolas was unexpectedly well in his place here.

Just saw it and I loved it. That being said their was not enough Gandalf for my liking but what there was was epic, especially a meeting with someone that was very dramatic and it does end rather abruptly but this just means the begining of the movie should be explosive.

anthony87:
If anyone is going to go see this then don't see it in 3D. It's just distracting and grainy and terrible and....bleh.

Also, does anyone else see Luke Evans and think "Discount Orlando Bloom" or is it just me?

Heh, that's funny because when I saw the very first trailer and pictures of him, I was thinking. "Hey, that looks like the guy in Pirates of the Caribbean. Who was that? Oh yeah, Orlando Bloom. Wait... Wasn't he Legolas??

josemlopes:
Actually that Tom Cruise movie didnt look that bad, its about time travel and shit, kind of like Source Code.

The author of the original manga, 'All you need is kill', said he was heavily inspired by video games when he wrote it.

Saw it last night, and it was pretty darn good. As a fan of the original book, I'm pleased with roughly 90% of the additions to the film series.

What bugged me a bit, though, was Legolas. I expected him to have a cameo appearance, possibly with a single sweet fight scene. Instead, he's one of the main characters in this film, with easily the best action scenes, which takes away a bit from the main plot. Also, they could have done a better job with his makeup. Orlando Bloom is still has his youthful good looks, but it's quite obvious that he's a decade older here than he was in LotR, in contrast with Hugo Weaving who looked just as timeless in Unexpected Journey as he did in the original trilogy.

Is the presence of War Machine in the credits due to some news or is Bob just wondering why he wasn't in Avengers? The only excuse I can think of for his absence

Gizmo1990:
Just saw it and I loved it. That being said their was not enough Gandalf for my liking but what there was was epic, especially a meeting with someone that was very dramatic and it does end rather abruptly but this just means the begining of the movie should be explosive.

I have but one question that can be answered in one word, so that's all I ask. No spoilers or anything else.

Do the spiders talk? Yes or no please.

Seriously, this is all I care about. The eagles didn't talk, so I'm very worried about the spiders talking. I would like to know ahead of time so I can be prepared to brush it off and not bracing myself the entire movie to be disappointed, or go in with a smile on my face.

Sniper Team 4:

Gizmo1990:
Just saw it and I loved it. That being said their was not enough Gandalf for my liking but what there was was epic, especially a meeting with someone that was very dramatic and it does end rather abruptly but this just means the begining of the movie should be explosive.

I have but one question that can be answered in one word, so that's all I ask. No spoilers or anything else.

Do the spiders talk? Yes or no please.

Seriously, this is all I care about. The eagles didn't talk, so I'm very worried about the spiders talking. I would like to know ahead of time so I can be prepared to brush it off and not bracing myself the entire movie to be disappointed, or go in with a smile on my face.

Bob pronounces "Smaug" funny.

"Smowg."

...

Sorry, I should probably say something more useful. Umm... sounds good, but I'm still kinda "eh" on the whole Hobbit endeavor. I think Bob summed it up nicely when he described the whole thing as a victory lap.

Sniper Team 4:

Gizmo1990:
Just saw it and I loved it. That being said their was not enough Gandalf for my liking but what there was was epic, especially a meeting with someone that was very dramatic and it does end rather abruptly but this just means the begining of the movie should be explosive.

I have but one question that can be answered in one word, so that's all I ask. No spoilers or anything else.

Do the spiders talk? Yes or no please.

Seriously, this is all I care about. The eagles didn't talk, so I'm very worried about the spiders talking. I would like to know ahead of time so I can be prepared to brush it off and not bracing myself the entire movie to be disappointed, or go in with a smile on my face.

OT: I...have a few problems with this movie. It really felt padded out to me and I still think some scenes could have ultimately been cut. This was supposed to be originally a two movie epic and now its kinda showing. Maybe the third one will tie everything together put this movie began to push it. It's still a great movie though.

Yojoo:

Sniper Team 4:

Gizmo1990:
Just saw it and I loved it. That being said their was not enough Gandalf for my liking but what there was was epic, especially a meeting with someone that was very dramatic and it does end rather abruptly but this just means the begining of the movie should be explosive.

I have but one question that can be answered in one word, so that's all I ask. No spoilers or anything else.

Do the spiders talk? Yes or no please.

Seriously, this is all I care about. The eagles didn't talk, so I'm very worried about the spiders talking. I would like to know ahead of time so I can be prepared to brush it off and not bracing myself the entire movie to be disappointed, or go in with a smile on my face.

Excellent. Thank you for letting me know. :-)

Zhukov:
Bob pronounces "Smaug" funny.

"Smowg."

As stupid as it sounds, that's how they pronounce it in the movie.

Is it just me, or was Orlando Bloom in there twice?

Oh another Hunger Games jab, well this is going to be fun for the next 500 times Bob does the same thing. At least no-one can ever accuse him of having trouble letting go (to be fair, he didn't mention how he hates Amazing Spider or that Batman's overplayed in this particular video). Although it's worse because it's really bizarre for someone to criticise the Hunger Games for not having enough mindless crowd-pleasing and vapid action.

That aside, I'm really glad the buzz has been that this film is going to be even better than the last

Zhukov:
Bob pronounces "Smaug" funny.

"Smowg."

...

Because it's, linguistically, how it's supposed to be pronounced?

Movie Bob:
Tom Cruise stars in: "Generic Video-Game Box-Art: The Movie"

As loosely interpreted from one of the most interesting Science Fiction stories in the last decade with plot jettisoned to make it into a typical Hollywood shoot'em up.

The only thing good I can think about this movie is that, if its as bad as I think it is, it'll be no competition for the other movie coming out that weekend; The Fault in our Stars (which I'm counting the days until released)

Oh War-Machine, you don't understand. If we had two awesome black guys in the movies, everybody would be intimidated by the presence of too many 'urban characters.' *pats head* Now get on you little rascal.

OT: I'll admit, while I do quite like the first 'Hobbit' film, I have a really hard time justifying it to somebody who's just kind of indifferent to Tolkein. Whereas all the 'Lord of the Rings' films stand up in their own right and are all excellent films, 'The Hobbit,' so far, feels like Tolkein porn only to be taken in by Tolkein fetishists, and I think that makes the overall quality of the films rather debateable. After all, is a movie really that good if it only appeals to a specific segment of pop-culture? Seriously, if you're not already into it, there's almost NOTHING for you in 'An Unexpected Journey.'

And yes, I've got to see 'Desolation of Smaug' before I make any real judgements of it, and what I've heard so far is quite a bit more positive than anything for 'An Unexpected Journey' was, but my anticipation is definitely tempered.

Bob Chipman i name you hypocrite and coward for not picking out the shoehorned in clichéd trope feast of a love story, for the one token female character, who just had to have a soppy love story because shes a chick like.

I thought better of you.

canadamus_prime:
Interesting. Defiantly going to see this. Well I was going to see it anyway, but yeah...

But he recommended the movie, going to see it wouldn't be defiant at all.

I liked this second movie.
Althou if I had directed it I would've made it a lot more slowpaced, they left out some of my favorite parts from the book and I didn't like the ending.

But overall I was very pleased with it.

I saw it and was really annoyed with things that I didn't really think needed changing, but got a change to lead in to a lengthy battle scene. And some things just seemed arbitrarily changed for zero reason. Like the light showing the keyhole scene. Splitting the party. Dwarves under the mountain. Laketown politics. A lot of what just seemed like padding and changes that seemed to occur for no reason.

That said, Smaug is easily the most bad ass dragon I have seen on film since Dragonslayer. To the point that it really seemed absurd that the dwarves weren't taking casualties in their fight with him.

On more of a nitpick level, stupid liquid metal physics were stupid and there was a strong disconnect between having a corrupt dictator who rules via secret police, gestapo tactics and having him be Stephen Fry.

josemlopes:
Actually that Tom Cruise movie didnt look that bad, its about time travel and shit, kind of like Source Code.

Bob actually seems kind of into it (on his blog). He just hates the title, because the original title of the Japanese Light Novel it's based on is "All you need is Kill." Which is an amazing title.

Aptspire:

josemlopes:
Actually that Tom Cruise movie didnt look that bad, its about time travel and shit, kind of like Source Code.

The author of the original manga, 'All you need is kill', said he was heavily inspired by video games when he wrote it.

Light Novel. The Manga is coming in 2014.

Tauriel really is the best character in this film. I enjoyed this one much more than the first, but was disappointed in where they chose to end it. Fifteen extra minutes would have been the difference between this movie being a three hour bridge between the first and last movie or it actually having it's own sub-plot complete with a resolution.

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