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Worst Commercialization of Christmas

A Jew, a Christian and Kyle walk into a bar. Then they walk out and film this week's No Right Answer.

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I believe we all know the answer, and it is the Christmas movie is all about getting back to the true meaning of Christmas while be over hyped on Good Morning America or whatever it is the kids watch these days.

Personally, I think you're all correct. Holidays in general are heavily commercialized and I don't believe that there's one that's any worse than the other. My family is traditional Chinese Buddhist, so we don't care about all that materialistic crap.

Also, Christmas isn't actually the day Christ was born, but I assume everyone knows this by now.

Gotta go with Black Friday, guys. It's so much the symbol of commercialism that it pretty much makes people forget an entire holiday. Commercializing Jesus is pretty bad, but at the end of the day, he's still an important part of Christmas to a lot of people. Commercializing CHHAanukkah is even worse since it almost blots out the entire purpose of the Jewish holiday, but again, at the end of the day, you can still have CHGHHAAanukkah and be happy with it.

Black Friday? Black Friday pretty much makes Thanksgiving disappear. They reduce Thanksgiving to being not about giving thanks or eating together with friends to basically the start of the Christmas season. Christmas has almost completely enveloped Thanksgiving. It's just a starting point for another holiday, and that starting point always has the best sales for stupidly expensive shit you don't need.

Funny/Horrifying thing about elf on the shelf...

For those that don't know, the basic idea is that the stupid little elf dolls watch you in their doll forms (BAD CHILDREN!) and come to life at night when you are asleep. The parents are supposed to convince their children of this by moving the elves to different locations at night. Apparently, if you touch the elves during the day they don't come to life that night or some shit.

ANYWAY, for some reason, my parents have convinced my 7-year-old brother of this fantasy and it led to tragedy. You see, one of our dogs got to the elf and... tore him to pieces. My brother thought the elf was alive, so naturally, he flipped out on the dog and cried all day. My mom managed to Frankenstein him back together, however, and everything's all good now. My brother still thinks our dog is a legit murderer though :/

Despite how fun it can be to pose the elf in sexual positions on furniture, I have to ask myself if the lie is worth it XD

Krampus is the best Christmas tradition ever! The parades, oh the parades


It's like they dipped Halloween in my Christmas! What's not to love?

Hehe, great episode. Good to see all 3 of you guys slamming christmas.

Waaghpowa:
Personally, I think you're all correct. Holidays in general are heavily commercialized and I don't believe that there's one that's any worse than the other. My family is traditional Chinese Buddhist, so we don't care about all that materialistic crap.

Also, Christmas isn't actually the day Christ was born, but I assume everyone knows this by now.

It was even mentioned in the episode, so at least everyone in the comments section should know :P

Good on you being a Buddhist. I really dont understand why not everyone is. I'm not, at least not...er...actively. But the philosophy of it speaks to me, and it should make a lot more sense to any person bothering to have a thought of his own, than any "real" religion.

I've got to say Black Friday is the worst people act like complete animals and Thanksgiving is practically nonexsistant because of Black Friday

Black Friday hands down. It's a requirement that if you're a business you HAVE TO open at least at midnight if not THANKSGIVING EVENING 'cause who the hell knows. We have crap like Walmart encouraging it's customers to be savages by saying "We can guarantee we'll have what you want -IF- you're in line within the first hour we open our doors." And the worst victims are not the insane people who buy into all that, but the employees who are just trying to get by and have to work on Thanksgiving or get up ridiculously early the next day just to face hoards of customers who are out to get deals, most likely on stuff they're not even buying as gifts.

I had to stop watching TV in November this year because I just couldn't stomach another Black Friday commercial.

People get trampled and killed. Yea pretty bad for holiday shopping.

Those elves are the worst, but anyway, there's no right answer to this other than to say that all of them are over commercialized. I don't know how you can judge the severity when one is corrupting a religion, another is destroying another holiday, and the other is CHHHHanukah.

You guys left off Festivas! The greatest holiday ever invented!

Ah Woolworths...

It takes me back to that crappy year known as 2005.

Come to think of it, I don't want to be taken back to those dark times.

Christmas in general is horribly commercialised, with the only pure christmas experience left being the Steam Christmas Sales.

I can't wait to piss away most of my life with Fall of The Samurai and Civ V Complete.

Definitely my favorite NRA thus far. You guys should do more societal debates!

The Worst Commercialization Of Christmas Ever is Santa Clause.

Santa Clause giving out free gifts or coal contradicts the commercialization & capitalism of Christmas. Santa Clause is basically a socialist or whatever. In fact Fox News should hate Santa for even implying free gifts.

Then there is the other part which is the coal. Maybe the practice of giving coal for Christmas to people who were bad during the year didn't happen in my childhood. But if everyone doesn't get or know someone who got nothing but coal for Christmas from Santa Clause why talk about it?

And IF "The real" Santa Clause did start giving out gifts or coal to all those in a single night like he's suppose to & broadcast why he did it then maybe we'd have world peace by now.

Of course we'd end up with One World Under Santa Clause.... But I'd take that over "Corporations Are People My Friend" Romney, "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" McCain, "The Americans Were Dumb Enough To Re Elect This Guy" GW Bush any day.

Fappy:
Funny/Horrifying thing about elf on the shelf...

For those that don't know, the basic idea is that the stupid little elf dolls watch you in their doll forms (BAD CHILDREN!) and come to life at night when you are asleep. The parents are supposed to convince their children of this by moving the elves to different locations at night. Apparently, if you touch the elves during the day they don't come to life that night or some shit.

ANYWAY, for some reason, my parents have convinced my 7-year-old brother of this fantasy and it led to tragedy. You see, one of our dogs got to the elf and... tore him to pieces. My brother thought the elf was alive, so naturally, he flipped out on the dog and cried all day. My mom managed to Frankenstein him back together, however, and everything's all good now. My brother still thinks our dog is a legit murderer though :/

Despite how fun it can be to pose the elf in sexual positions on furniture, I have to ask myself if the lie is worth it XD

Judging by the look on that elf's face (which gives me a very serial-killer vibe), your dog's a goddamn hero. But the fact your mom Frankensteined it back together is a movie monster origin story.

Remus:
Krampus is the best Christmas tradition ever! The parades, oh the parades


It's like they dipped Halloween in my Christmas! What's not to love?

AH, the Krampus. One of the few beings in existence to go toe-to-toe with Brock Samson and live, and the only holiday character who either belongs in Hell or on a Dio album cover. I forget if he comes to naughty childrens' houses and tortures them into behaving or straight up kills them, and that makes me wonder what that says about whoever made him up.
Well, in my opinion, he's still leagues better than Holland's Sinterklaaus' sidekick and, ugh, African slave. God knows what that freak gets up to.

Well this is a hard one.

Black Friday is the most violent, and was created for to be just about "commercialism".

But Christmas is the one that has "sold out" the most, and become such a big monster that people who don't even follow the believes of those who started it almost have to celebrate it.

And Hanukkah, as Dan put it, is just kind of sad. Trying to compete with the others by doing what they do, and having no chance of success.

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:/ I wonder what the people who celebrate Kwanzaa feel about all this....

*laughing* Masterfully done, gentlemen.

Personally I'm all for Christmas as a secular (not-religiously affiliated) holiday. Do nice things for other people, peace on earth, goodwill (and eggnog) for all - I've got no problem with any of that, though I dig non-Christians looking askance at Christ in the name, so Happy Holidays works for me, too. Shoot, I don't know why people knock the solstice as a reason - I live in a cold place, celebrating the gradual end of short days and long nights is a decent enough reason on its own.

Anyway, bravo, and may good fortune find you in the new year.

TheDrunkNinja:
Gotta go with Black Friday, guys. It's so much the symbol of commercialism that it pretty much makes people forget an entire holiday. Commercializing Jesus is pretty bad, but at the end of the day, he's still an important part of Christmas to a lot of people. Commercializing CHHAanukkah is even worse since it almost blots out the entire purpose of the Jewish holiday, but again, at the end of the day, you can still have CHGHHAAanukkah and be happy with it.

Black Friday? Black Friday pretty much makes Thanksgiving disappear. They reduce Thanksgiving to being not about giving thanks or eating together with friends to basically the start of the Christmas season. Christmas has almost completely enveloped Thanksgiving. It's just a starting point for another holiday, and that starting point always has the best sales for stupidly expensive shit you don't need.

Maybe you guys should just adopt the Canadian Thanksgiving, which we have on the 2nd Monday of October. Considering that Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner tends to be the same thing it doesn't make much since to have the two one month apart, so Canada's timing works much better and gets you away from Black Friday!

Kind of off topic but:
I don't talk much to my American relatives and they mostly live in Muslim neighborhoods so I want to ask, did any of you see anything about Eid-ul-Adha a few months ago? Or Ramadan?

3:20 I'd believe that it's the Shepard's crook before I'd believe the "J for Jesus" thing.
That one seems to be stretching it a bit.

3:36 (Insert Rim Shot Here) XD

3:52 Brief sidenote, I liked that movie. Ah,Mel Brooks. =)

4:14 Amen. They probably only have THAT, because there would probably be people that might complain
otherwise. I'm a Christian, (Theist,if you're curious) and I celebrate Christmas as well, but it HAS to suck
to be Jewish sometimes, not getting the proper representation of your holiday. But then again, that also means
that it isn't very commercialized; which is both good and bad.

4:30 Hey-Oh! LOL

5:06 It's like me first hearing the words Christian Science. My head hurt at the time from hearing such a
wierd combination of words you might not think would go together well.

6:20 Yes! And check out the new "Krampus!" comic! A tale with Krampus as
the unlikely hero of the tale. ...Even the Sinterklaases are kind of jerks. but then again, given the situation, I'm sure they're just covering their bases.

Arif_Sohaib:
Kind of off topic but:
I don't talk much to my American relatives and they mostly live in Muslim neighborhoods so I want to ask, did any of you see anything about Eid-ul-Adha a few months ago? Or Ramadan?

My muslim neighbors always come bring sweet treats at the end of ramadan, wich is commonly known to occur by most non-muslim Dutch. I give their children small presents during christmas.
The sacrificial feast is also well known to be observed in the muslim community, although it has caused some controversy lately because some animal rights groups feel that animals should be sedated before slaughter.

Considering Black Friday is the day I sit back on my couch and laugh at everyone who decided to venture into the shopping storm (Shaden Friday?), I couldn't picture a holiday more bereft of good will than Black Friday.

Waaghpowa:
Personally, I think you're all correct. Holidays in general are heavily commercialized and I don't believe that there's one that's any worse than the other. My family is traditional Chinese Buddhist, so we don't care about all that materialistic crap.

Also, Christmas isn't actually the day Christ was born, but I assume everyone knows this by now.

Someone needs to make a list of the ways people have tried to commercialize Buddhism. The irony of that would be explosive.

You know what always gets my shorts in a knot? Those fucking awful commercials that show some kid freaking out because he didn't get the gift he wanted for Christmas and then it's like "Get the gifts they really want, shop at (X)."

How about all of it sucks? Is it possible that both sides win?

Well coming from the netherlands when i was a child whe only celibrated the 5th of december.
withs is saint nickolas day the giving of gifts is somthing this saint did on his birthday so that made sence to do.
but now 30 years later whe also celbrate christmas in the same way the rest of the world does now the tree was always there becasue well whe where a pagan country before whe became chrstians so the tree is something that belongs here.
but the gift giving part is easy to trace back to the storeowners gooing hey whe made lots of money because of the 5th of decmber so lets see if whe can make some more because of the 25th so got to say christmas is the one thats overcommercialized seeing this changed in about 30 years maybe it was coming before that im speaking of personal expierence here

Commercials aren't something that bothers me since I don't watch TV at all)
What really gets me is xmas music in shops
I could somewhat tolerate it if it was good or/and local
But it seems that whoever runs a shop bought bunch of horrible xmas pop songs from US or UK and simply plays it on loop
There is very strong "we don't really care about Christmas, just go and buy our crap" vibe

P.S. As for me I never had celebrated Christmas, only during New Years eve family gathers for a few hours.

Well... I feel bad for the people who were named "not Jesus" who were born on the 25th. Every commercials and everyone who's against those commercial will remind you that it is not your special day.

Por que no los tres? Seriously...all three COMBINED have killed the holidays pretty much.

ESPECIALLY the Black Friday thing. It's no wonder I keep hearing the song "Sunday Bloody Sunday" in my head every time Black Friday weekend comes around.

Well thankfully Black Friday doesn't ruin my Canadian Thanksgiving. It's nestled safely in the 2nd week of October which spreads the turkey out nicely throughout the fall.

I'd give it to Chanukah in this case since it adopted everything just to kind of fit in.

Darth_Payn:

Fappy:
Funny/Horrifying thing about elf on the shelf...

For those that don't know, the basic idea is that the stupid little elf dolls watch you in their doll forms (BAD CHILDREN!) and come to life at night when you are asleep. The parents are supposed to convince their children of this by moving the elves to different locations at night. Apparently, if you touch the elves during the day they don't come to life that night or some shit.

ANYWAY, for some reason, my parents have convinced my 7-year-old brother of this fantasy and it led to tragedy. You see, one of our dogs got to the elf and... tore him to pieces. My brother thought the elf was alive, so naturally, he flipped out on the dog and cried all day. My mom managed to Frankenstein him back together, however, and everything's all good now. My brother still thinks our dog is a legit murderer though :/

Despite how fun it can be to pose the elf in sexual positions on furniture, I have to ask myself if the lie is worth it XD

Judging by the look on that elf's face (which gives me a very serial-killer vibe), your dog's a goddamn hero. But the fact your mom Frankensteined it back together is a movie monster origin story.

Remus:
Krampus is the best Christmas tradition ever! The parades, oh the parades


It's like they dipped Halloween in my Christmas! What's not to love?

AH, the Krampus. One of the few beings in existence to go toe-to-toe with Brock Samson and live, and the only holiday character who either belongs in Hell or on a Dio album cover. I forget if he comes to naughty childrens' houses and tortures them into behaving or straight up kills them, and that makes me wonder what that says about whoever made him up.
Well, in my opinion, he's still leagues better than Holland's Sinterklaaus' sidekick and, ugh, African slave. God knows what that freak gets up to.

The lore of the Krampus changes a bit over time and region but you're generally correct. Santa (whose appearance was more of a church bishop at the time) was the guy who gave gifts to the good children while the Krampus (a dark furred goat man-thing) would steal the naughty children away in a sack to be punished.

I'd say Christmas and that's because of ALL the different kind of Christmas tree ornaments you can buy. I work at one of the new Targets in Canada and in our seasonal section you can find ornaments of swiss cheese, pickles, shoes, bunny slippers, that thing that painters use to put their paint on and hold it, Minnie Mouse in a "Nerd" outfit and it's called "nerd Minnie Mouse" but the WORST of all is the "Yoga bag" ornament I found one day, god how fucking horrible my day was after that, I truly believe Christmas is just a commercial now.

As random as it is, the candy cane was actually made with religious meanings so, yeah, whatever that's worth. I'd have to give it to Black Friday. It overtakes Thanksgiving and Christmas both it's just crazy.

The other stuff you can choose not to be a part of and it's still a great holiday. But man, try driving somewhere on Black Friday and you're going to wish you had a grenade launcher.

Waaghpowa:
Personally, I think you're all correct. Holidays in general are heavily commercialized and I don't believe that there's one that's any worse than the other. My family is traditional Chinese Buddhist, so we don't care about all that materialistic crap.

I live in Taiwan and it's the Buddhists that are the richest son of a guns who spend millions and millions on their temples, celebrations, and centers. Lol, don't claim that you don't care about materialistic crap because you're Buddhist. You don't care because you were raised right.

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