The Big Picture: MovieBob's Best of 2013

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Alright, MovieBob. I'll cut to the chase. This Is The End. Enormously funny movie. The funniest I have seen all year, in fact. You yourself really liked it! And yet you did not even give it an honorable mention. Please explain, if you would be so kind.

Oh wow, some of these responses are hilarious. People seriously get upset when Bob's favorite movies aren't the same as theirs. And there are still people who ask for "objective" best-of lists? Yeesh.

OT: Yeah, a pretty interesting list there, Bob. I was positively surprised by the Pacific Rim and at the moment it would probably get on my top 10 list as well. Hopefully I manage to convince my friend to go watch Frozen with me after the holidays.

I'm honestly surprised by the huge backlash to Pacific Rim here. Not because I'm some blinded fanboy who can't fathom that people might not have liked the movie (Yes, I'll be honest, it's my favorite film of the year, but I'm well aware of the flaws it has and of course I understand why other people might not be so fond of it)

But the things people need to remember are

A. This is a subjective list, put together by a single person who simply felt that Pacific Rim was the movie he most personally enjoyed this year, and

B. He even flat out says in the video that he doesn't think Pacific Rim is objectively the best film of the year. It was just his personal favorite. He pretty much says flat out that The Wolf of Wall Street is a better movie.

So seriously, to all those who are mad about Pacific Rim being number 1...take a chill pill.

I really can't see why people liked Spring Breakers. It was pretty good but not overwhelming up to the completely unrealistic ending. I'm sure the ending is a closet and not so closet fantasy for some racists but it was so stupid, it wasn't even ironically comical and I hate Gucci Mane. Only saw this on Bob's recommendation and was really disappointed.

Little surprised Blue Jasmine wasn't on here. Really surprised 12 Years A Slave was only a runner up and and Dallas Buyer Club wasn't on the list.

Frozen however, was not a good choice, but an EXCELLENT one!!! To each their own, Robert.

damn. some of these movies i havent see or heart of. but i will watch them eventually when i see them available on dvd and the price is alright.

chiggerwood:

Moeez:

chiggerwood:

Actually there's quite a few critics that hated it (it has a metacritic score of 39), some even went as far as asking if the director's previous effort, Drive, was a fluke. And no drive wasn't a fluke it was just a continuation of a pattern for the director of good movie, bad movie, good movie, bad movie. Nicolas Winding Refn made Bronson which was good, then he made Valhalla Rising, which was an inexcusably tediously boring movie that had no right to be boring. I mean it was a movie about Vikings fighting Indians for fucks sake, but the director managed to make something only slightly more interesting than paint drying. Then came Drive which was good, then he made Only God Forgives, which was an inexcusably tediously boring movie that had no right to be boring. I mean it was a movie about a psychotic druglord mother who was trying to get unjustified revenge for the murder of her psychotic rapist son, who she was fucking, but the director managed to make something only slightly more interesting than watching grass grow. So yeah his next movie should be really good. Sorry for the rabbit trail.

lol Valhalla Rising was not about that...at all.

It was about Odin/One Eye leading the Christians to not the Promised Land but to hell/the new world and to see them completely lose their minds. Kinda like Aguirre, that Herzog movie. How religious fundamentalism can be your destroyer. And the true sacrifice a hero must make. I would liken the mood to a psychedelic horror, which you don't get often. The scene where they trip out is awesome.

It's a great audiovisual experience. One of my favourite movies, and actually got me into Refn.
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Also, some of the most brutal violence I've seen like the fight and the disembowelling scene.
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Actually(taken from IMDB) "The genesis of the film comes from the discovery of a mysterious pile of runes near Delaware. There was been much speculation as to how they got there so far inland so the film seeks to provide an answer of some sort to that." And there might be that subtext, but I'm not going to care and I am going to continue holding onto the literal story due to the fact that the movie is such a boring as hell slog that it quite frankly doesn't deserve any deeper reading. Yeah it is a visual treat, and there are a couple of good and interesting scenes, but they can be counted on one hand. visual panache and style is not a substitute for an actual substantial movie. If you can do both that's great, but if you only have the visual panache then you are going to look pretentious. And if you are right about the subtext, which yeah I can see it, then that makes it even worse, because that means Nicolas Refn made a movie about a Norse god leading people to hell and it was, still. Fucking. Boring.

What's boring to you is engaging to me, what's visual panache to you is substance and symbolism for me and I got meaning out of it. No point in arguing with you since you've already made up your mind :)

j1015:
I really can't see why people liked Spring Breakers. It was pretty good but not overwhelming up to the completely unrealistic ending. I'm sure the ending is a closet and not so closet fantasy for some racists but it was so stupid, it wasn't even ironically comical and I hate Gucci Mane. Only saw this on Bob's recommendation and was really disappointed.

You were expecting realism from Spring Breakers when the whole thing has a neo-noir, dreamy vibe with unreliable narrators? The whole point of the movie and the ending is this is an amoral take on kids being criminals. They get away and return back to the real world, with no witnesses and now living the life with all that moolah.

Racist closet fantasy?! YOu're like the first person to ever think that :P

I can't get behind pacific rim as being the best movie of the year. Is it a good action film? sure. However I i don't believe that a movie can be the number one film of the year just by having one good thing. So it goes on top of the action list for me, just not my total year one

Moeez:

chiggerwood:

Moeez:

lol Valhalla Rising was not about that...at all.

It was about Odin/One Eye leading the Christians to not the Promised Land but to hell/the new world and to see them completely lose their minds. Kinda like Aguirre, that Herzog movie. How religious fundamentalism can be your destroyer. And the true sacrifice a hero must make. I would liken the mood to a psychedelic horror, which you don't get often. The scene where they trip out is awesome.

It's a great audiovisual experience. One of my favourite movies, and actually got me into Refn.
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Also, some of the most brutal violence I've seen like the fight and the disembowelling scene.
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Actually(taken from IMDB) "The genesis of the film comes from the discovery of a mysterious pile of runes near Delaware. There was been much speculation as to how they got there so far inland so the film seeks to provide an answer of some sort to that." And there might be that subtext, but I'm not going to care and I am going to continue holding onto the literal story due to the fact that the movie is such a boring as hell slog that it quite frankly doesn't deserve any deeper reading. Yeah it is a visual treat, and there are a couple of good and interesting scenes, but they can be counted on one hand. visual panache and style is not a substitute for an actual substantial movie. If you can do both that's great, but if you only have the visual panache then you are going to look pretentious. And if you are right about the subtext, which yeah I can see it, then that makes it even worse, because that means Nicolas Refn made a movie about a Norse god leading people to hell and it was, still. Fucking. Boring.

What's boring to you is engaging to me, what's visual panache to you is substance and symbolism for me and I got meaning out of it. No point in arguing with you since you've already made up your mind :)

A) double post sorry.

B) i loved vahalla rising. The silence throughout most of the film leading to everything being told through scenery and action was well done, the action was great. Didn't pick up on the dude being odin tho.

Wolf of Wall Street is probably my favorite movie this year. Nice of Scorsese to return to what he does best - sweeping epics about outsiders making their way all the way up and then all the way down within some sort of "over-the-rules" urban clan. It used to be the mafia. Now it's stockbrokers.

Except for pain and gain (which I DESPISED) the movies Bob showed are really good :)

I loved pacific rim, it was awesome.

I don't know why about pain and gain, but it was a first. It was unenjoyable, horrible, felt like there was no point to watch the movie. Hell, halfway through the movie, I realized I was only waiting for it to end so I can go home.

Oh god, Springbreakers.
It sounded like something i would hate, so i watched it and totally hated it.
Why is this movie getting so much praise?
Yeah it's a satire of a soulleblublublu...
I didn't see the satire. At all. Unless you count doing something stupid totally straight as satire, but i don't do that.
I think people liked the ending a lot and i think it looked liked that would be good for a quarter of a second and then they ruined it.


I cannot see how anyone should be going out of this movie, to quote moviebob, "mindblown".

Spring Breakers is a shitty movie. If you have to dig that deep to find something of value in it, then you're making it up. You're seeing things that just aren't there. It's also poorly shot. Kind of nauseating.

As for "Blue is the warmest color", I really don't know what to think of that movie. It is, in a way, porn. It's not a hardcore porn obviously, but sex scene are more explicit than softcore porn. That's not an opinion. It's a fact. And one of the lesbian sex scenes lasted so long, I started laughing. It was an absurdly long sex scene. But I have to give my respect to the actresses. Shooting those scenes must have been hell.

So about Spring Breakers...

When the character of Alien was making his monologue about how he's achieved his version of the American Dream, do you think it was just a coincidence that a Scarface poster was hanging in the background? I mean if the gratuitous Lil' Wayne poster at the very beginning didn't clue you in on what this movie was trying to do, that moment should have smacked you across the face. It's much like Pain & Gain as it's one of those "Perversion of the American Dream" type movies. Scarface meets Girls Gone Wild in essence.

Spring Break is a place and time where disenfranchised youth can take a (for lack of a better term) break from the miserable & mundane social restraints of their equally as shallow/banal/superficial reality crafted by their parents, with the High School Musicals and Hannah Montanas and Faith's corny Hip for Jesus group (led by perfectly cast Jeff Jarrett), into a world where they get to freely live out all fantasies they want. All the fantasies they've seen and heard about countless music videos and radio rap songs. Events like Spring Break let them be a part of that culture even of only for a week. I mean really, is at all THAT different from the "Wooo Free Love, Woooo Drugs and Sex and Loud Rambunctious Music That Are Parents Think Suck But We Find Awesome (particularly when we're under the influence)" hooplah that defined movements like Woodstock oh so many decades ago? You think the ultraconservative 50's parents were thrilled about the things their 60's hippy kids were doing? They were being just as big of slut-shaming pearl-clutchers as parents are today, hence why Miley Cyrus became a big deal again and why the old guard "looks down" at these big EDM festivals.

But yeah, even the nominal "good girl" of the group Faith can kinda start to see the allure of such a rule-less vacation from reality. However, the trouble starts to come from that some of the characters don't see this as a temporary aside, rather as a full blown ESCAPE....and once the darker realities start to get to her, Faith bolts. But the others have legitimately bought into the fantasy hook line and sinker.

Does it have problems? Sure. The 'Bad 3' girls are really TOO over the top compared to Selena Gomez's more grounded character, and the first act can drag. The movie's 93 minutes as is, but it probably could have been even shorter and still get its point across. But I think it's a good enough movie to justify its right to exist and was DEFINITELY one of the more interesting movie events of the year.

....because at least it isn't the fucking BLING RING. This is the opposite side of the Spring Breakers coin. You people have not SEEEEEEEN pointless and repetitive is until you've seen this...fuck, it's too boring to be called a mess...Sofia's operating on pure nepotism at this point. Whatever talent she had in Lost in Translation is long gone now.

3:28 HAVE WE GONE MAD?! Micheal Bay shows up on the list, but not the World's End?

If next week's list hasn't retroactively degraded the Batman and Superman movies to "worst of the year" status, I will be pleasantly surprised.

...But I wouldn't bet a bent nickel on it.

Callate:
If next week's list hasn't retroactively degraded the Batman and Superman movies to "worst of the year" status, I will be pleasantly surprised.

...But I wouldn't bet a bent nickel on it.

Don't forget Stah Trek: Into Dahkness. With another pot-shot at the Devil-incarnate J.J Abrams and complaining about a 'mystery box' idea that nobody ever gave a crap about.

Of the movies I've seen on this list, I mostly agree with Bob. Pacific Rim and Gravity were simple premises played out to perfection in my eyes. I also loved Pain & Gain. It was the perfect mix of funny and effed up. I'll also point out that I was pleasantly surprised by Lords of Salem being a runner up. I though that my friend Jim and I were the only ones who liked it.

I hate to be even a little off topic but that tone you used when talking about the cop from Fruitvale, you seemed to be implying you don't believe it was an accident. Everything about that case says accidental shooting. There is video of this you can watch, unless he was acting from the get go, which hey, I guess is a possibility, it seems pretty obvious it was an accident.
It was gross negligence and he deserved everything he got, but there was just no indication it was an intentional homicide.

Aside from that it is a good list, what I have seen of these movies I have liked.

Mr. Happy Face:
Alright, MovieBob. I'll cut to the chase. This Is The End. Enormously funny movie. The funniest I have seen all year, in fact. You yourself really liked it! And yet you did not even give it an honorable mention. Please explain, if you would be so kind.

Huge movie. But he just a week or two ago loved "Anchor Man 2". I'm surprised that wasn't in his top 10. His top pic, I thought meh, much for these reasons:

and

Just, why aren't they stationed near the source of the monsters, using that giant sword to cut these suckers in 1/2.

Struck me as too BS.

Gorfias:

Mr. Happy Face:
Alright, MovieBob. I'll cut to the chase. This Is The End. Enormously funny movie. The funniest I have seen all year, in fact. You yourself really liked it! And yet you did not even give it an honorable mention. Please explain, if you would be so kind.

Huge movie. But he just a week or two ago loved "Anchor Man 2". I'm surprised that wasn't in his top 10. His top pic, I thought meh, much for these reasons:

and

Just, why aren't they stationed near the source of the monsters, using that giant sword to cut these suckers in 1/2.

Struck me as too BS.

If you take it for what it is: A popcorn movie about giant monsters hitting roadblocks in the form of giant robots then it is DAMN good! I went in to see giant monster vs giant robot fights and I was not disappointed. The graphics are REALLY well done (in 2D anyway - did not see it in 3D) and it actually has a somewhat coherent plot which is more than can be said of the Bayformers movies!

If you want to get a sense of what Pacific Rim is like without watching it I have just the thing for you!

truckspond:

If you take it for what it is: A popcorn movie about giant monsters hitting roadblocks in the form of giant robots then it is DAMN good! I went in to see giant monster vs giant robot fights and I was not disappointed. The graphics are REALLY well done (in 2D anyway - did not see it in 3D) and it actually has a somewhat coherent plot which is more than can be said of the Bayformers movies!

If you want to get a sense of what Pacific Rim is like without watching it I have just the thing for you!

My problem is putting a good popcorn movie at the very top of your best list and this was a good popcorn movie. I felt I was getting my money's worth every time I saw a Yager. Infinitely superior to the Transformers movies. But Movie Bob himself has said that things are better when they're actually about something. Today, spectacle is getting easier and easier to do. It's coming up with a compelling story, great dialogue, intriguing characters that I think sets one movie apart from another.

I'll have to check to see if other users are putting up top 10s in that forum.

This year certainly has been a great excuse to spend more time at the cinema. Glad Pacific Rim made it to number 1. It became an excuse to buy a blu-ray drive just for the movie and warranted the 4 viewings of the movie at the cinema. I love the future!

Only God Forgives is easily my film of the year.

Gravid with meaning, subtext and thematically potent action, and with a suave look that's consistent and exciting. Really a film for people sick of the usual Hollywood shite.

Runners up are Lords of Salem, Pacific Rim and Under the Skin.

Well, Pacific Rim was a great action movie. I was on the edge of my seat for a lot of the fight scenes and the effects did not disappoint. True, there were many technical issues with moving the plot forward and the acting seemd rather wooden to me. I'd put it in my top ten as well. Probably not all the way up to Number 1, but that's me. "Ender's Game" would have made my top 10, but I am probably too passionate about the original story.

I guess I'll be watching Pain & Gain in the near future.

Thanks for the list Bob. I hope I don't see "Man of Steel" next week. I didn't see a lot of movie this year, but I was disappoined most by "Burt Wonderstone" and "Stand Up Guys". Good talent--bad movies. I even enjoyed very lengthy "The Lone Ranger". I wasn't great, but it was watchable. Oh, wait.."Hansel & Gretel",

Gxas:

chiggerwood:
I cannot disagree with MovieBob any more than when it comes to Only God Forgives. How anyone can put that disjointed poorly directed, overwrought mess on even a runners up list is a mystery to me. The rest of the list was fine, but seriously, Only God Forgives?

I haven't seen it, but I've heard wonderful things about it from critics all over.

That being said, anyone who saw it who wasn't a critic absolutely HATED it.

Probably some disconnect in what is being looked at as "good".

You know, that touches on a theory of mine that critics and whoever decides who gets what award at the Oscars are really just trying to make themselves look superior and vastly more intellectual than the rank-and-file moviegoers. That's why we see all these movies that no one has ever even heard of - let alone actually seen - being nominated for Best Picture and such.

RJ 17:
You know, that touches on a theory of mine that critics and whoever decides who gets what award at the Oscars are really just trying to make themselves look superior and vastly more intellectual than the rank-and-file moviegoers. That's why we see all these movies that no one has ever even heard of - let alone actually seen - being nominated for Best Picture and such.

Or maybe a person whose job is to watch tons of movies each year has somewhat different taste than someone who watches a few blockbusters per year? Why the need to assign some kind of insincere intent to critics instead of accepting that different people like different things? I just don't get this type of attitude.

And I wouldn't say the Academy has a tendency to nominate obscure films for Best Picture. Most of the recent nominees have either starred famous actors, been about a famous person, based on a best selling book or they have been directed by a famous director.

Uhura:
Why the need to assign some kind of insincere intent to critics instead of accepting that different people like different things?

Why? Because it's more fun that way, and to lure people who take everything way to seriously into displaying how they take everything way to seriously.

Wait a minute. You hated The Purge but liked Atlas Shrugged? I think i should stop watching you now....

...wait a second. Mako Mori is groundbreaking? An introverted traumatised Japanese girl who pilots a giant robot is groundbreaking? I swear there are millions of those.

EDIT:

Strazdas:
Wait a minute. You hated The Purge but liked Atlas Shrugged? I think i should stop watching you now....

The next person will wait a millisecond.

I felt like Thor 2 was a better overall movie than Pacific Rim, but the style and conceptualization of the latter is definitely one for the ages. I am really thinking I need to watch that movie again.

Mako Mori? Really? The chick with daddy issues and surrogate daddy issues who is haunted by flashbacks that cause her to faint whenever she has to pilot a mecha and gets rescued by Charlie Hunnam's white knight - whom she's been fapping to throughout the movie - in the big finale is your "strong female character"?

MeChaNiZ3D:
...wait a second. Mako Mori is groundbreaking? An introverted traumatised Japanese girl who pilots a giant robot is groundbreaking? I swear there are millions of those.

Exactly.

Earthfield:
Wow, seeing Iron Man 3 as a runner up was really surprising, but I felt a bit left behind considering a couple of those movies weren't reviewed in Escape to the Movies.

While I'm glad Bob didn't give some of those full reviews because they don't really seem to fit the viewership of the site all that well I'm glad to see they made his list and get a short summary of them. There were three on his top 10 that I am actively disinterested in, but it was great to hear his positive spin on them, even the Michael Bay entry.

Pacific Rim is a god-awful movie, i can't remember when was the last time i was genuinely embarrassed while watching something and i haven't found a single person who actually liked it that could explain it. That movie is at the bottom of some 'uncanny valley'

Strazdas:
Wait a minute. You hated The Purge but liked Atlas Shrugged? I think i should stop watching you now....

Cloud Atlas, not Atlas Shrugged. Two very different movies.

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