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Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit

Chris Pine boldly goes forth to save the world, only this time without a starship.

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Wait... you mean Chris Pine had to pretend to be an obnoxious douchbag? I though he just was an obnoxious douchbag.

I liked the first four Jack Ryan movies, but probably The Hunt for Red October is my favorite, this just seems to be the complete opposite of something I would enjoy. Thankfully the trailers that I have seen were enough to tell me that and using an actor like Chris Pine who every movie that they have been that I have seen I haven't really enjoyed gives me more then enough cause to wait for it to air on Netflix.

Yeah, I kinda saw this coming. Why do an action reboot of the Clancyverse with Jack Ryan as the Bourne character, when there's already an example of that type of character in the franchise in John Clark? Also, Without Remorse would've made a much better movie. Although they are supposedly working on an adaptation....

Yeah, that's what I figured. Why the hell would they reboot Jack Ryan, just give Clancy fans the damn Without Remorse movie that's been in and out of Dev Hell forever.

It would work within the other Clancy movie framework too (aside from Sum of All Fears, which was kind of a moderny reboot compared to the other movies) and it would make for a really kick ass movie, basically "Jason Bourne as the Punisher whilst still doing Jason Bourne stuff." But no, instead we get Chris Pine shitting all over a recently deceased author's main character and fictional universe.

You even made me shout "oh COME ON!" a few times during this video when you showed the image of the Clancy novels and Without Remorse was RIGHT THERE!

I'm curious if moviebob knows that saxton hale is a parody of unstoppable badass characters.

I thought chris pine was oke as kirk in the star trek reboot, despite that this movie doesn't sound very interesting.

Darklord008:
Yeah, I kinda saw this coming. Why do an action reboot of the Clancyverse with Jack Ryan as the Bourne character, when there's already an example of that type of character in the franchise in John Clark? Also, Without Remorse would've made a much better movie. Although they are supposedly working on an adaptation....

THANK YOU. Seriously, that would make a great movie, especially if they kept it period correct instead of trying to update it and shove in a War on Terror subplot instead of the original. Also, you'd think it would be a given, it doesn't even need to be made "darker and edgier" as it's already pretty damned dark and edgy. Shame the adaptation has been in and out of Dev hell for like a decade.

I'm sure they'd still find a way to ruin it. Like, I don't know, Cast Mark Wahlberg as John Kelly, set it in Modern Day Chigaco or NY instead of 70's Baltimore, change the Drug to Meth (y'know, because Breaking Bad happened), find a way to make the CIA or other govt agency the main villain, and... okay, I'm just going to stop there, I already threw up into my mouth a little just describing that.

Yeah I was never going to see this film anyway so the fact that it's not actually any good doesn't change anything for me. There's a lot of good stuff out at the cinemas right now and this isn't one of them.

Also, I really wish Keira Knightley was in better movies. I'd pretend it's for some noble reason but it's not, I just think she's really pretty.

tangoprime:
Yeah, that's what I figured. Why the hell would they reboot Jack Ryan, just give Clancy fans the damn Without Remorse movie that's been in and out of Dev Hell forever.

It would work within the other Clancy movie framework too (aside from Sum of All Fears, which was kind of a moderny reboot compared to the other movies) and it would make for a really kick ass movie, basically "Jason Bourne as the Punisher whilst still doing Jason Bourne stuff." But no, instead we get Chris Pine shitting all over a recently deceased author's main character and fictional universe.

You even made me shout "oh COME ON!" a few times during this video when you showed the image of the Clancy novels and Without Remorse was RIGHT THERE!

THis we need! I have just got done with The sum of all fears, and I can't say how pissed off I'm at the film of it. They changed the terrorist from Muslims and communist terrorist (RAF) to extrem rightwings Nazis wannabes that want to created a fourth reich or some shit like that (I have seen the film yet, but I think that I will not like it). They missed the point of the damn book! ARRRGHGHGHGH! Anyway, the new Jack Ryan look all right enough.

Come on, Bob, don't do this to me. You imply something so gobsmackingly stupid happens in a bad movie and part of me wants to see the movie just to confirm it really is that dumb.

I'm given to understand that Jack Ryan was roused from his sleep in London by prescient knowledge of what was happening in New York on September 11, 2001. Setting aside the paranormal aspects of that, does the movie offer any explanation of why he was sleeping at around 3 in the afternoon on a Tuesday? Or did they forget that the Earth is round and has time zones and show the sun just coming up in London at approximately 10AM in New York?

Can anyone who's seen this movie confirm or deny this?

I think a video on why the NES version of King Kong Lives never saw the light of day would have been a lot more interesting than what came out this weekend. Between this and The Nut Job, you're better off watching something else, folks. Maybe go find Hunt for Red October or Clear and Present Danger or Patriot Games on Netflix and see what an actual Jack Ryan movie looks like.

Bittersteel:

tangoprime:
Yeah, that's what I figured. Why the hell would they reboot Jack Ryan, just give Clancy fans the damn Without Remorse movie that's been in and out of Dev Hell forever.

It would work within the other Clancy movie framework too (aside from Sum of All Fears, which was kind of a moderny reboot compared to the other movies) and it would make for a really kick ass movie, basically "Jason Bourne as the Punisher whilst still doing Jason Bourne stuff." But no, instead we get Chris Pine shitting all over a recently deceased author's main character and fictional universe.

You even made me shout "oh COME ON!" a few times during this video when you showed the image of the Clancy novels and Without Remorse was RIGHT THERE!

THis we need! I have just got done with The sum of all fears, and I can't say how pissed off I'm at the film of it. They changed the terrorist from Muslims and communist terrorist (RAF) to extrem rightwings Nazis wannabes that want to created a fourth reich or some shit like that (I have seen the film yet, but I think that I will not like it). They missed the point of the damn book! ARRRGHGHGHGH! Anyway, the new Jack Ryan look all right enough.

Just did some digging, looks like Paramount decided to do this Jack Ryan movie and then do a spinoff Without Remorse movie set in this new universe... likely meaning they'll do the modern setting bullshit, as Costner is already signed to play Harper in both movies. While this pisses me off in that it'll follow this piece of crap film, at least there's actually new news about Without Remorse, although I think the modern update will strip the story of it's character just like the Sum of All Fears movie did.

http://collider.com/tom-hardy-without-remorse-jack-ryan-kevin-costner/

Zenron:
Yeah I was never going to see this film anyway so the fact that it's not actually any good doesn't change anything for me. There's a lot of good stuff out at the cinemas right now and this isn't one of them.

Also, I really wish Keira Knightley was in better movies. I'd pretend it's for some noble reason but it's not, I just think she's really pretty.

She's in rather a lot. You just may have never heard of them. In fact, some of the best films being made nowadays never make it to wide release as the business model of the movie theater is changing radically.

Some I've seen on Netflix that are very low key, Last Night, A Dangerous Method.

Never Let Me Go sounds fascinating but I'm not sure I can handle it emotionally. Argh. I'll put it in the queue.

Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange?

...

Okay, I can picture that, sure. I dunno if he has the gravitas for Strange's more srs bsns moments, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at least.

I vaguely remember seeing one ad for this. Didn't even know this was a Tom Clancy Mary Sue character.

This review has only made me care even less.

you want to do a Clancy action movie with the war on terror? was I the only one who read rainbow six?(it was a book before the game and it was kick ass) I mean seriously that and teeth of the tiger would be perfect to fit this role and people would love them but no we get these idiots fucking up one of my favorite fictional characters so bad that I cant be mad at bob for dissing his book form........god dam it I hate Hollywood some times.

Nobody walks away from a helicopter crash like that. Nobody.

Except Toreno.

Sanunes:
I liked the first four Jack Ryan movies, but probably The Hunt for Red October is my favorite, this just seems to be the complete opposite of something I would enjoy.

Darklord008:
Yeah, I kinda saw this coming. Why do an action reboot of the Clancyverse with Jack Ryan as the Bourne character, when there's already an example of that type of character in the franchise in John Clark? Also, Without Remorse would've made a much better movie. Although they are supposedly working on an adaptation....

Oh absolutely. Sum of All Fears was forgettable for me, but the other three are fantastic movies, and Without Remorse is the best novel I read in my teenage years.

Everyone listen up!

If you have never seen these movies, go see them!
The Hunt for Red October
Patriot Games
Clear and Present Danger

If you're a book-reading type of person, I recommend those three far above most of the rest of his work.

Then, in Clear and Present Danger, Willem Dafoe plays a character named John Clark. The book Without Remorse is a prequel that covers Clark's backstory, and it's almost universally held as Tom Clancy's best work. Even if you don't normally read on a regular basis, go read Without Remorse.

..not everyone gets to be James Bond or Iron Man or whoever, because the reason they're Iron Man and James Bond is because their movies offered a breath of fresh air or vanilla-yet-sophisticated, slick, refined, and intelligent spectacles within the action genre that are worth an audience's time to see.

Fixed that last line for you, Bob. Thank me later.

Clancy. ::sigh::

Clancy was great when he still felt relevant, back in the mid 1980s through the early 1990s. Back when there was still an actual Cold War and the potential (however remote) for a true superpowers war. Red Storm Rising was some great Clancy war-imagination at work. The Hunt for Red October was interesting and contextually relevant. It wasn't until Clancy went off of the Cold War into things like Clear and Present Danger that he started to feel less ... interesting, despite that being a pretty good book overall. I gave up around Executive Decision.

I just don't think that Clancy really transitioned out of the Cold War era particularly well. When we start invoking his name for things like H.A.W.X. (which was, admittedly, an amusing game), it just starts to feel like generic name-branding, which, frankly, it was.

Now we feel the need to reboot Ryan? What? I wasn't even aware of this until this video and I can't be more... well... if my eyes rolled anymore, I'd probably give myself vertigo.

Shjade:
Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange?

...

Okay, I can picture that, sure. I dunno if he has the gravitas for Strange's more srs bsns moments, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at least.

Maybe you never saw Sweeny Todd. Not all of Depp's roles have been jovial comic relief characters.

I know that Chris Pine isnt that great but he was good in Smokin Aces so at least lets give him some credit to that.

This scene is a bit on the spoiler side but its the best one I can find on Youtube

Thats all Bob has to say about Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange? I thought Bob would be on my side in seeing that would be horrible, the worst thing to ever happen to that character.

Guess I was wrong.

canadamus_prime:
Wait... you mean Chris Pine had to pretend to be an obnoxious douchbag? I though he just was an obnoxious douchbag.

Chris Pine has a personality? This is news to me. I'm sort of glad that the rest of this film isn't good, it would be a bit depressing if he ruined an otherwise decent film.

TheRightToArmBears:

canadamus_prime:
Wait... you mean Chris Pine had to pretend to be an obnoxious douchbag? I though he just was an obnoxious douchbag.

Chris Pine has a personality? This is news to me. I'm sort of glad that the rest of this film isn't good, it would be a bit depressing if he ruined an otherwise decent film.

I can't attest to the quality of this movie as I haven't seen it, I just don't like Chris Pine.

Alarien:
Clancy. ::sigh::

Clancy was great when he still felt relevant, back in the mid 1980s through the early 1990s. Back when there was still an actual Cold War and the potential (however remote) for a true superpowers war. Red Storm Rising was some great Clancy war-imagination at work. The Hunt for Red October was interesting and contextually relevant. It wasn't until Clancy went off of the Cold War into things like Clear and Present Danger that he started to feel less ... interesting, despite that being a pretty good book overall. I gave up around Executive Decision.

I just don't think that Clancy really transitioned out of the Cold War era particularly well. When we start invoking his name for things like H.A.W.X. (which was, admittedly, an amusing game), it just starts to feel like generic name-branding, which, frankly, it was.

Now we feel the need to reboot Ryan? What? I wasn't even aware of this until this video and I can't be more... well... if my eyes rolled anymore, I'd probably give myself vertigo.

Actually He co wrote Red Storm Rising. Most of the global political and War Simulation stuff that made that book so great came from the co-auther Larry Bond (who wrote a few very good similar books on his own). Clancy did more the character work. (Show of hands, who remembers any of the characters from Red Storm Rising?)

While I agree with Bob that this one looks like a turd. And trying to turn a character who is supposed to be a behind the scenes technical operator into James Bond or Jason Bourne is horrible, this review once again suffers horribly from Bob's heavy handed injection of personal politics. Which is sadly becoming a heavier and heavier trend with Bob.

MovieBob:
Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit

Chris Pine boldly goes forth to save the world, only this time without a starship.

Watch Video

Let me say, once again, that Chris Pine was mesmerising as the older brother in "Carriers". It was a stunningly good performance in a very good and oft-overlooked film.

The guy can act when he's given a really good role... the problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to take a bland role and elevate it to something more interesting.

Gorfias:

Zenron:
Yeah I was never going to see this film anyway so the fact that it's not actually any good doesn't change anything for me. There's a lot of good stuff out at the cinemas right now and this isn't one of them.

Also, I really wish Keira Knightley was in better movies. I'd pretend it's for some noble reason but it's not, I just think she's really pretty.

She's in rather a lot. You just may have never heard of them. In fact, some of the best films being made nowadays never make it to wide release as the business model of the movie theater is changing radically.

Some I've seen on Netflix that are very low key, Last Night, A Dangerous Method.

Never Let Me Go sounds fascinating but I'm not sure I can handle it emotionally. Argh. I'll put it in the queue.

Don't forget Anna Karenina.

Dear christ, just listening to Bob say what happens in this film makes me cringe. I knew Clancy was abit of a nutter but bloody hell...

Sick burn at the end there. Good to see a reviewer willing to continue punching Man of Steel, maybe the Demons of Development Hell will look favourably on your offering and doom it for you, and indeed for us all.

Primus1985:
Thats all Bob has to say about Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange? I thought Bob would be on my side in seeing that would be horrible, the worst thing to ever happen to that character.

Guess I was wrong.

It's fine as long as we don't see a Jack Sparrow routine.

OT: Sigh, another borefest this week. What fun.

tangoprime:

Darklord008:
Yeah, I kinda saw this coming. Why do an action reboot of the Clancyverse with Jack Ryan as the Bourne character, when there's already an example of that type of character in the franchise in John Clark? Also, Without Remorse would've made a much better movie. Although they are supposedly working on an adaptation....

THANK YOU. Seriously, that would make a great movie, especially if they kept it period correct instead of trying to update it and shove in a War on Terror subplot instead of the original. Also, you'd think it would be a given, it doesn't even need to be made "darker and edgier" as it's already pretty damned dark and edgy. Shame the adaptation has been in and out of Dev hell for like a decade.

I'm sure they'd still find a way to ruin it. Like, I don't know, Cast Mark Wahlberg as John Kelly, set it in Modern Day Chigaco or NY instead of 70's Baltimore, change the Drug to Meth (y'know, because Breaking Bad happened), find a way to make the CIA or other govt agency the main villain, and... okay, I'm just going to stop there, I already threw up into my mouth a little just describing that.

That's what I thought this one was going to be about. I am confused and disturbed when a movie made in America has a real-world American agency as the bad guy, even in this day and age. It feels like propaganda.

OT: Bob, you had me laughing at "Freedom-sense". Resplendent! And now I want to read Saint's Row IV as written by Cotton Hill. He killed fiddy men!

faefrost:

Alarien:
Clancy. ::sigh::

Clancy was great when he still felt relevant, back in the mid 1980s through the early 1990s. Back when there was still an actual Cold War and the potential (however remote) for a true superpowers war. Red Storm Rising was some great Clancy war-imagination at work. The Hunt for Red October was interesting and contextually relevant. It wasn't until Clancy went off of the Cold War into things like Clear and Present Danger that he started to feel less ... interesting, despite that being a pretty good book overall. I gave up around Executive Decision.

I just don't think that Clancy really transitioned out of the Cold War era particularly well. When we start invoking his name for things like H.A.W.X. (which was, admittedly, an amusing game), it just starts to feel like generic name-branding, which, frankly, it was.

Now we feel the need to reboot Ryan? What? I wasn't even aware of this until this video and I can't be more... well... if my eyes rolled anymore, I'd probably give myself vertigo.

Actually He co wrote Red Storm Rising. Most of the global political and War Simulation stuff that made that book so great came from the co-auther Larry Bond (who wrote a few very good similar books on his own). Clancy did more the character work. (Show of hands, who remembers any of the characters from Red Storm Rising?)

While I agree with Bob that this one looks like a turd. And trying to turn a character who is supposed to be a behind the scenes technical operator into James Bond or Jason Bourne is horrible, this review once again suffers horribly from Bob's heavy handed injection of personal politics. Which is sadly becoming a heavier and heavier trend with Bob.

Huh, I didn't know Larry Bond had anything to do with Red Storm Rising, however, that's not actually advertised anywhere. Is he actually even credited anywhere with it? Doesn't really surprise me, but it is pretty lame to co-write something and not give credit.

Pretty lol moment realizing that I sorta remember the characters in that book, but no names.

WhiteTigerShiro:

Shjade:
Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange?

...

Okay, I can picture that, sure. I dunno if he has the gravitas for Strange's more srs bsns moments, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at least.

Maybe you never saw Sweeny Todd. Not all of Depp's roles have been jovial comic relief characters.

I haven't, but I've seen Edward Scissorhands. He can be serious, but he doesn't have that aura of "shit just got real, everyone pay attention to what this guy is going to say" the way some people do. At least not that I've seen.

Strange sometimes has those moments where he has to go on a rant about Things Of A Magical Nature that just magnetize whatever space he's in at the time. That's the kind of thing I'm not positive Depp could pull off.

Primus1985:
Thats all Bob has to say about Johnny Depp as Doctor Strange? I thought Bob would be on my side in seeing that would be horrible, the worst thing to ever happen to that character.

Guess I was wrong.

Depp is a very good actor. His recent films have all had the ridiculous Captain Jack Sparrow shit thanks to the success of Pirates of the Carribean, but he's got a wide range of roles he's more than capable of filling.

Now, I'm personally not 100% sold on Depp being able to pull off a proper Doctor Strange. I'm not sure he has the... presence, for lack of a better word, to really sell being The Sorceror Supreme. I'm optimistic though, because Depp has a great deal of talent and it could easily be a great fit for him.

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