Star Wars: Battlefront - Great Teaser, Now What?

Star Wars: Battlefront - Great Teaser, Now What?

For 10 years, Battlefront has been relegated to handhelds. Now it makes its console comeback.

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The most important thing the game needs is for it to be 3rd Person primarily. If it's a solely FPS, people will just declare it a Star Wars reskin of Battlefield. And if we wanted that, I'd go back to the Star Wars: First Strike mod for Battlefield 2142

There are Battlefront Purists? That's just silly. The game was a great game to play with friends but it had tons of flaws from terrible level design, to breathtakingly bad weapon/ability balancing. I wont even mention the AI.

The game needs to be reworked for modern tech. Everything the scale of battles to the terrible upgrade system needs reworked.

Soviet Heavy:
The most important thing the game needs is for it to be 3rd Person primarily. If it's a solely FPS, people will just declare it a Star Wars reskin of Battlefield. And if we wanted that, I'd go back to the Star Wars: First Strike mod for Battlefield 2142

Agreed, though I would at least like the option to play it in a first person view in a viable manner. It's more immersive that way.

Stupidity:
There are Battlefront Purists? That's just silly. The game was a great game to play with friends but it had tons of flaws from terrible level design, to breathtakingly bad weapon/ability balancing. I wont even mention the AI.

The game needs to be reworked for modern tech. Everything the scale of battles to the terrible upgrade system needs reworked.

Much agreement. I played both games on friend's systems and while fun in short bursts I never found enough to like to be worth buying. Other issues than ones you mentioned were the worthless single-player and the fact I found the controls to always be a bit floaty and the weapons with very little feel of impact. And I used to be a Star Wars nut at the time.

But the potential is still there for this to be great. I really do hope it turns out awesome and if nothing else I'm excited to see how it might finally look.

Battlefront, in my opinion, were the only Star Wars games to really be any sort of decent in terms of the world.

When you play a jedi, or everyone is a jedi (ToR), it loses it's fun.

And if Dice is going to be doing something with it similar to Battlefield, I'm not going to say I'm not stoked as hell.

So I heard that EA hired Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf to do their public relations speeches from now on.

Anyway, I was excited about Battlefront but after the Battlefield 4 débâcle I'm not so sure any more. Maybe it's a lesson learned for the developers at DICE but if EA starts to hammer about releasing it earlier (which is highly probable) than it might be the nail to the coffin for DICE.

But I won't shed a tear if or when that happens.

DICE heard that EA had the rights to Star Wars games and they begged to do Battlefront. That team is capable of amazing things, although their projects can be hampered by the business side of things. DICE is the company I had hoped would get to make the next Battlefront, and that's speaking as one of the people that gets choked up remembering the cancelled Battlefront 3. Looking at the timeline, I'm not surprised we haven't heard anything yet and I hope the issues surrounding BF4 work as a cautionary tale for the next Battlefront.

Stupidity:
There are Battlefront Purists? That's just silly. The game was a great game to play with friends but it had tons of flaws from terrible level design, to breathtakingly bad weapon/ability balancing. I wont even mention the AI.

The game needs to be reworked for modern tech. Everything the scale of battles to the terrible upgrade system needs reworked.

Ah yes, the classic stand still and shoot strategy

I think we also have to remember, Disney will be keeping a close eye on EA, and if it's one thing i have learned about Disney over the last few years, it's that, despite what people may think of them, generally the stuff they release is near enough flawless. The Marvel films, Frozen, and some of there other stuff pretty much confirm that, they wont allow EA to release a half ass product.

Still a bit worried though, not because of EA, but DICE...not very familiar with them, and hearing about the problems BF4 has had, just adds to the worry, thankfully what they have said (about them wanting it to feel like Battlefront, and the fact they begged EA to do it) has made me just that little bit happier.

Now...we need another trailer, pronto!

Eh. I already played battlefront moastly in 1st person, so including 3rd person isn't a big deal for me. Looking forward to this.

Chareater:

Stupidity:
There are Battlefront Purists? That's just silly. The game was a great game to play with friends but it had tons of flaws from terrible level design, to breathtakingly bad weapon/ability balancing. I wont even mention the AI.

The game needs to be reworked for modern tech. Everything the scale of battles to the terrible upgrade system needs reworked.

Ah yes, the classic stand still and shoot strategy

Well, at least the Stormtroopers could hit what they were aiming at that way (well, maybe 30% accuracy instead of 5%, but still an improvement!)

I'm cautiously optimistic. Firstly, the teaser means jack shit to me. Yeah, its Hoth; any Battlefront game worth its salt is going to have the first big cinematic Star Wars slau- I mean, battle, so no shocking reveal their. No gameplay is shown, so it means nothing.

I just hope DICE doesn't BF4 it.

After what we've gone through with Battlefield 4, Dice deserves to lose its customers' trust. I recommend waiting at least one month to buy this game (after its release).

The release of Battlefield 4 was extremely unprofessional and premature. No game comes out flawless, but this was too much. For me, the game only just recently hit slightly-above-acceptable standards.

I am sure that Battlefront will be a great game, but I still strongly recommend against a pre-order. Whatever "Premium" crap they boast... don't buy into it; just wait.

I know DICE has the project, but I don't think the BF4 team is the one making Battlefront. Also, not long ago I saw a quote from someone at EA or DICE that said they weren't just going to copy the previous games, they were going to make Battlefront their own.

Jaximus Decimus:
I know DICE has the project, but I don't think the BF4 team is the one making Battlefront. Also, not long ago I saw a quote from someone at EA or DICE that said they weren't just going to copy the previous games, they were going to make Battlefront their own.

Playing Devil's advocate, let's assume their goal was to copy/paste the previous games; would they come out and say that, or would they say "We plan to release the most innovative innovation in the history of innovation,"? Not unlike how every Madden game is touted as "raising the bar" and "the best madden yet." IMO, given the debacle with BF4, it wouldn't surprise me if someone said "Look, we can't afford another BF4. Play it safer than safe. Just copy-paste, and we'll spin it as "remaining true to the source."'

Gxas:
Battlefront, in my opinion, were the only Star Wars games to really be any sort of decent in terms of the world.

When you play a jedi, or everyone is a jedi (ToR), it loses it's fun.

And if Dice is going to be doing something with it similar to Battlefield, I'm not going to say I'm not stoked as hell.

While they were out there in that type of way, have you ever heard of the Jedi Knight games? I personally think especially Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast does this much better than any other Star Wars games.

lukesparow:

Gxas:
Battlefront, in my opinion, were the only Star Wars games to really be any sort of decent in terms of the world.

When you play a jedi, or everyone is a jedi (ToR), it loses it's fun.

And if Dice is going to be doing something with it similar to Battlefield, I'm not going to say I'm not stoked as hell.

While they were out there in that type of way, have you ever heard of the Jedi Knight games? I personally think especially Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast does this much better than any other Star Wars games.

Played a bit of Jedi Academy and I own Outcast, but I've just never been one to want play a jedi. I bought a huge collectors pack because of Republic Commando, Battlefront, and Battlefront 2. It had KotoR and Outcast in it. Never even installed them.

Maybe I'll give them a shot sometime.

"It's hard not to be excited for the reboot."

Have you people forgotten Dead Island already? A pre-rendered short film tells you absolutely nothing. If this was being made be the same people as the first two I could understand, but this is being made by EA, who have a reputation for running things into the ground coughUltimacough.

Soviet Heavy:
The most important thing the game needs is for it to be 3rd Person primarily. If it's a solely FPS, people will just declare it a Star Wars reskin of Battlefield. And if we wanted that, I'd go back to the Star Wars: First Strike mod for Battlefield 2142

Speak for yourself; I want a Star Wars re-skin of Battlefield (which is EXACTLY what the first 2 Battlefronts were). Third-person is awful for shooters unless it's cover-based. Since DICE does first-person so well, they'd be better off doing it first-person.

The good thing about DICE getting Star Wars is that DICE will finally have a single-player story that won't be awful for once (only because they're not going to be writing it). Also, I'm hoping they bring back Titan mode from 2142. It would fit perfectly in the Star Wars universe.

Even if it turns out to be a not perfect game I'm still excited about another installment of Star Wars Battlefront after the forever wait. Call me crazy but just something fun about playing as a Storm Trooper instead of every shooter being World War II, modern warfare, or zombies. Shooting ewoks and gungans that feels like revenge.

While I still break out the games from time to time I can't call myself a purist because there are so many areas where they could be made into better games.

Gxas:

lukesparow:

Gxas:
Battlefront, in my opinion, were the only Star Wars games to really be any sort of decent in terms of the world.

When you play a jedi, or everyone is a jedi (ToR), it loses it's fun.

And if Dice is going to be doing something with it similar to Battlefield, I'm not going to say I'm not stoked as hell.

While they were out there in that type of way, have you ever heard of the Jedi Knight games? I personally think especially Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast does this much better than any other Star Wars games.

Played a bit of Jedi Academy and I own Outcast, but I've just never been one to want play a jedi. I bought a huge collectors pack because of Republic Commando, Battlefront, and Battlefront 2. It had KotoR and Outcast in it. Never even installed them.

Maybe I'll give them a shot sometime.

I can see where you're coming from. Jedi's can be quite overused. However, you should know that at least the first couple hours of Jedi Outcast are about you gunning down Stormtroopers. You don't get a lightsaber or force powers for quite a while. I personally think it's very well balanced, and you should definitely at least give that one a try!

It'd be a crime not to at least try that one!

New Battlefront? From DICE? I'm very hopeful. This came as a welcome suprise for me, so I'm ready to wait for whatever comes out. If its even one little bit better than Battlefront II, it would have been worth it, even if only a bit, and I'm expecting better then that.

Cpt. Slow:
So I heard that EA hired Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf to do their public relations speeches from now on.

Anyway, I was excited about Battlefront but after the Battlefield 4 débâcle I'm not so sure any more. Maybe it's a lesson learned for the developers at DICE but if EA starts to hammer about releasing it earlier (which is highly probable) than it might be the nail to the coffin for DICE.

But I won't shed a tear if or when that happens.

I'm not totally sure EA will press as hard. They've pissed off the investors with Battlefield 4. Money talks loudly.

Investors typically want a fast return for their investment, they may be a bit more patient now that they can see the financial results of rushing a release.

... Maybe.

-Dragmire-:
they may be a bit more patient now that they can see the financial results of rushing a release.... Maybe.

Nah, they were pissed that the DLC production train came to a grinding halt because DICE promised to keep working on the broken game itself. It would not surprise me that in a month or two they will say that the game has been fixed and stick their head in the sand. And of course start working on bug free *cough* version of Star Wars Battlefront.

Although I can't foresee how large the shit storm will be when that happens. 9 out of 10 companies are there for the money which is fair because, well that is how the world spins. But a little bit of more listening to your consumers can go a long way.

rasputin0009:

Soviet Heavy:
The most important thing the game needs is for it to be 3rd Person primarily. If it's a solely FPS, people will just declare it a Star Wars reskin of Battlefield. And if we wanted that, I'd go back to the Star Wars: First Strike mod for Battlefield 2142

Speak for yourself; I want a Star Wars re-skin of Battlefield (which is EXACTLY what the first 2 Battlefronts were). Third-person is awful for shooters unless it's cover-based. Since DICE does first-person so well, they'd be better off doing it first-person.

Nah, I'm firmly in the third-person camp. It's just so much more fun to play than a game where you're stuck looking through a letterbox and sniping at guys in the distance.

Of course, some kind of cover mechanic would make sense; given that these are huge battlefields which will end up littered with the husks of battered vehicles or in extremely uneven terrain (the Kashykk level from the original is a good example, or that one which was a sniper's paradise and reminds me of Peach Trees from Dredd) it'd be foolish to expect trained/programmed soldiers not to use the landscape to their advantage. Given the prominence in previous Battlefront games of rockets, grenades, shielded enemies and fuck-off huge vehicles, it should be easy to balance things so that matches don't become meerkat battles of players popping up and down from the same piece of cover. Add in the destructive scenery from Battlefield, and you'd have a shooter which uses cover but doesn't allow it to bog down the pace of matches because nobody can stay in the same place for too long.

Am I the only one who was a bit pissed off by the teaser? Great that it's being made- I get that, but the decision to show the Battle of Hoth happening in a freaking blizzard only seems to reinforce DICE's mentality of spectacle and game-engine porn over actual gameplay. Who the hell wants to replay that battle with 10-foot visibility?

Purists would certainly have hated to see any major change, while those who liked the concept, but not the original execution, would have hated to see the newest entry in the series stick to the original formula.

I don't think I even once came across someone who liked the concept and not the execution. Especially the second game, where they went all out cramming as much stuff in, including perhaps the only complete set of instant action and singleplayer campaigns for this type of game ever made. Sure there were some rough edges, but the games were still masterpieces.

If the new one doesn't have 3rd person view and bots available for every map and mode, then it's a failure in my eyes.

All I want from the new Battlefront are three things: Offline single-player, offline Co-Op, and a galactic conquest mode. If it has these three things, then it should be great. But if Dice cuts out even one of these features, it just won't be Battlefront anymore. Hopefully they don't screw it up, but I've got a nagging suspicion they'll just try and make it into a new Battlefield game.

 

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