Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Review - Episode 14: T.A.H.I.T.I.

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Review - Episode 14: T.A.H.I.T.I.

The team race to find a miracle cure for Skye and along the way stumble on...magic fish people extract?

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Any episode that makes me wonder what is going to happen next with some thought that I'll get an answer (I'm looking at you Lost) is good for me. Question on the Atlantians, did they have fins instead of legs, Mermen if you will? Might be a very good reason to have had him cut in half.

Ouch poor AoS I know it's after a 4 week break but this episode's ratings are terrible.

Pilot rating 4.7/14, viewers 12.12

2nd most watched episode 'Repairs' (set after Thor: the dark world) rating 2.6/8, viewers 9.69

previous episode after a 4 week break 'The Magical Place' rating 2.2/6, viewers 6.63

previous least watched episode 'The Bridge' rating 2.1/6, viewers 6.11

This episode rating 1.7/5, viewers 5.11

That's over 1.5 million less viewers than the last time AoS took a 4 week break.

So, next week we get "Lloyd in Space" Marvel edition. Wonderful. Sarcasm.

I would love it if Movie Bob or someone else did a supercut of just the stuff that actually matters to the Marvel mythos. The Honest Trailers guys will probably do it eventually.

Because I've stopped watching this show. And am very happy I did so.

Namorita seems the most plausible to me. Then again, we predicted the character from the pilot would be Luke Cage, but it turned out to be Deathlok instead.

Well, not a great episode, but I was still enjoyable. Can't wait for Uprising to begin, the concept alone looks interesting.

To be honest, I liked this episode much better than some other ones. Of course there is still room for improvement... :/

Ickabod:
Question on the Atlantians, did they have fins instead of legs, Mermen if you will? Might be a very good reason to have had him cut in half.

Nope, they're bipeds.

Thank you MovieBob, I was waiting all day for someone to explain to me WTF some of that stuff was and what I might have missed :)

Ickabod:
Any episode that makes me wonder what is going to happen next with some thought that I'll get an answer (I'm looking at you Lost) is good for me. Question on the Atlantians, did they have fins instead of legs, Mermen if you will? Might be a very good reason to have had him cut in half.

They just look like blue humans but with gills. I don't think they have been shown with the typical top-half human, bottom-half fish thing but it could be different for these guys. If it is an Atlantean then maybe the body was washed ashore and just happened to be cut in half and the people that found it did an autopsy thinking it was alien. I figure if it was killed in some kind of battle then SHIELD/whoever would have had an all out war with them or there would have at least been some larger conflict to cover up.

Atlanteans stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_mermanus

I agree with the sentiment of some that this was one of the better ones. I enjoyed it and next week looks to be interesting. I hope with more regular scheduling the pace will pick up and continuing threads perhaps will start to take a more central role and making the show feel more coherent. The 95% mcguffin chase of the week, 5% development should go to something like 80/20 or 50/50 for this to become a lot more interesting. Mostly because the mcguffin searches are already becoming quite stale and formulaic. See also Bob's comments about the now standard issue science parts.

I loved the episode personally. I also wonder what ridiculousness T.A.H.I.T.I. is an acronym for.

That almost human in the incubator probably.

I've been enjoying this show from the start. Last night's episode struck me as the weakest in a while. Maybe because it was built up as offering a magical change that some fanboys have been awaiting.

While I agree with MovieBob's points, I think the bigger problem is a lack of style and mood. It feels like a series of brightly lit sets and lightweight characters. They arrive at a rocky mountain hideout, but there's no foliage or animals or anything to suggest it's more than a set. No sergio leone music, and agents spitting in the dirt complaining about the altitude. I mostly find myself wondering how long the FX guys had to work on the shot, instead of considering the reality of the story at that moment in any way.

Why do we watch skye's CGI med capsule getting loaded for so long? Why not show Skye inside, suffering? or show some agent outside trying to ensure the process is delicately handled, wincing at the bumps and clangs? instead we just got a CGI shot that was clearly sweated over, but still fell short of the movies.

At another point the wizkids got some sort of hologram of blocks of "code"? The big twist is that instead of being encrypted garbage, it's some sort of 3D ASCII point cloud of a topographical side view of a secret base? wtf? and this followed some bizarre hand waving GUI that slid through hundreds of files, in a way that makes no sense for actual usability.
Is it so hard to ask a programmer for ideas on what that shit might look like?

shows like Black Mirror excel by feeling deeply researched and inventive with their technology, while Shield's technology, science, and NSA-style government bureaucracy all feel like a teenager's hasty sketchbook. Which is a problem for thinking people, because the science, tech, and politics are suppose to be what each episode is about?

what the fuck is the show trying to be about?

it does feel a lot like the marvel one shots on the DVDs, because it feels like a rushed half-thought through sketch that mostly serves as fodder for someone's bland cinematography reel.

the first episode hinted at the meaty topic of not being invited to the super persons party. How did last night build on that? with average joe's deciding death no longer needs to be a problem, especially for their super friend?(and no debate or thought on this?) ... welcome to the party?

They even had a scene where the cliche muscle guy points out how Simmons hasn't known Skye that long, and informs the audience that this makes perfect sense because you can still form strong bonds in a short time. huh. That scene served to remind me that it really made little to no sense for world class Agents to give a shit about the civilian they've known for a month.

the bigger picture of this episode is that the SHIELD agency wants to interrogate the rich asshole so they can work on CENTIPEDE, but our agents would rather... do nothing with him? keep him around so they can murder him if the civilian they barely know dies? or maybe the bigger organization doesn't really care, because Bill Paxton appears to be there because he also has an unsanctioned personal vendetta?
wtf?
I guess the point of this show is that SHIELD is horribly disorganized and hired all the wrong people, who never do their jobs. but it's hard to enjoy rebels when everyone's a rebel? bleh. hmmf.

Good gods this episodes...

Towards the end I was thinking it would be a clone, or the original Coulson - but no... its some blue non-human. How very interesting and honestly unexpected. But hey, if that guy was of the same species that our wounded heroine is of... oh boy

I can't wait for the next episode

You missed one big one bob. The aliens that attacked New York.

Ickabod:
Any episode that makes me wonder what is going to happen next with some thought that I'll get an answer (I'm looking at you Lost) is good for me. Question on the Atlantians, did they have fins instead of legs, Mermen if you will? Might be a very good reason to have had him cut in half.

No, but they do have webbed hands and feet.

Story wise the episode was quite good, nice to see that the mid season reveal wasn't the entire storie.
And although the answer raises more questions than it answers, it is a good way to progress Coulsens storie.
Not really action packt, but one often comes at the cost of an other.(next week will make up for it)

I freeze famed the alien.
When you see the alien for the first time(38 min), you have a good view of the left side of its neck.
I don't think i can see any gills there.
Later on the right side you can see a brown discoloration, but this goes over the length of its neck.
Hard to tell but i don't think there are any gills there nether.
Also, MARVEL didn't do any foreshadowing to suggest the atlantians. (or this is the foreschadow)

Look at this still from the Gardians of the Galaxy of ronan the accuser
http://www.punchdrunkcritics.com/2013/08/1st-look-at-michael-rooker-in-guardians.html
I see some similarities there.
The kree make sense

Also this could imply that skye is indeed an inhuman.

Skye as Namorita would make a lot more sense than Ms. Marvel. MM is a little too tightly tied to the Avengers, and is probably on the short list for potential additional female characters to be added in A3. And as adorable as Chloe Bennet is, I can't see them dropping her into Avengers next to Robert Downey Jr to be one of the teams hardest hitting badasses. Namorita is obscure enough to fit her. (although trying to mentally squeeze her into Avengers I now can't shake the thought that she would make an amusing Tigra.)

My two current theories. (assuming this in any way ties into comics lore) Either the alien is Atlantean and Skye is a TV version of Namorita. a child found in fishing nets by a Chinese village. (was the village she was found in coastal?) Or the Alien is Kree, and Skye is some form of Mantis. I actually lean towards Kree, just because it opens the door for them to do some teaser and tie in stuff to Guardians of the Galaxy. Whereas Atlantis reeks a little too much of things like Aquaman and Man From Atlantis etc. Granted the show tends to maintain a very 80's-90's sort of vibe and feel for how it is written and shot. It's much more old school 80's adventure TV than many darker more modern offerings.

PS did it really seem wildly out of place for our favorite SHIELD team to actually kill two apparent government or SHIELD officers in order to save Skye? Also why would Coulson freak out over the use of some sort of Alien by product for medical treatment? he was SHIELD's resident point man on Alien crap. he was one of the few people that knew about the Cube, and the followup reconstruction of the Hydra weapons. He's the only person that chose to actually USE them. He's been up close with Gods, Dark Elves, Chitauri, who knows what else. Why would he freak out over injecting alien blood goop? That's kinda the weird world he has long lived in (and died in, and lived in again, etc).

A few other interesting questions ofr thoughts (well to me at least)

T.A.H.I.T.I. ? Hmmm? could the T stand for Terrigen? The Kree mutagen that created the hybrid Inhumans? Now that would be fun.

How long has the safe house been there? What other things have its excretions been involved in? Project Rebirth? Dr. Bruce Banners work?

They said this was not a SHIELD base and it was really low staffed. If it wasn't SHIELD who was it? Since it was obviously where they rebuilt Coulson it probably is not AIM or Hydra? But SWORD maybe?

Shadow_Kid:
You missed one big one bob. The aliens that attacked New York.

Thats what i had originally thought has well but I don't know I haven't read enough of the comic (or any of them) to know whats what. I just watch the show because i like it. I also agree with others who liked this episode. It wasn't action packed but I usually like these race against time/fight the power sort of things soooooo

Some good theories on who our blue man in the tank was, Bob. While it was an interesting episode, I can see why everyone is losing interest in this show. As I said in the recap article, this is a show that truly needed more time to develop than the slap-dash method television shows rely on and it should have gone to Netflix or any of the other online streaming sites. If this show, by some miracle, is granted another season, I really hope they take their time to really plan out the show's next course of action.

Okay, so I wasn't the only one who didn't know what the blue guy was? That's good. The way the show revealed him, I was afraid I was missing out on something very important because I'm not all that familiar with Marvel stuff. Glad to see that's not the case.

Did anyone else feel really sorry for those two guards? I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D has non-lethal weapons. They didn't need to kill them. And they seemed like they had a sense of humor (do you want right or left?). I thought maybe they were special guest stars or something. Like the lead writers playing a role.

Are we all 100% that the guy in the tank was a non-human? Because he didn't look that huge to me, and my first thought when I saw the blue skin was that it was a stylized depiction of necrosis. I'unno, maybe there's some detail I missed that everyone else is picking up on, but I think the possibilities might be broader than the ones Bob presented.

Other than that, yeah, pretty weak episode, especially with the unnecessary revival of the "Coulson's unnecessary revival" story arc, but I've genuinely enjoyed most of the episodes so far and I'm not giving up on it yet.

KoudelkaMorgan:
I also wonder what ridiculousness T.A.H.I.T.I. is an acronym for.

Transmuting All His Intestines To Inoculations.

Terrifying Alcove Housing Inexplicable Torso, Instruments.

Turquoise Alien Has Inscrutable Tubes Inserted.

To the AoS naysayers; let's try to have some perspective okay? I'm one of the unfortunate souls who started this season cautiously optimistic about Almost Human and then watched in silent horror as it corkscrewed into a mountainside. Compared to that, AoS is like a trip back in time to the first season of the Battlestar Galactica reboot.

Also: +1 for "Turquoise Alien Has Inscrutable Tubes Inserted"

Wereduck:
To the AoS naysayers; let's try to have some perspective okay? I'm one of the unfortunate souls who started this season cautiously optimistic about Almost Human and then watched in silent horror as it corkscrewed into a mountainside. Compared to that, AoS is like a trip back in time to the first season of the Battlestar Galactica reboot.

Also: +1 for "Turquoise Alien Has Inscrutable Tubes Inserted"

Yeah, but compared to the other comic hero tv show out there, AoS isn't very much far behind Almost Humans corkscrew into a mountainside. Though for AoS its been more like a very sad slow fall down a not at all steep hill.

Also, seriously. Almost Human could have been awesome. It is so not awesome though. What's up with that?

On topic! This episode was okay I guess. I'm still waitin for pretty much anythin to happen that has an actual effect on anythin in the future.

Bob, for Lorelei's powers, maybe they only work on someone with a Y chromosome. So gay/bisexual men could be affected but lesbians would not. Which brings her powers into the Asgardian Science paradigm that this universe is building on.

Sniper Team 4:
Okay, so I wasn't the only one who didn't know what the blue guy was? That's good. The way the show revealed him, I was afraid I was missing out on something very important because I'm not all that familiar with Marvel stuff. Glad to see that's not the case.

Did anyone else feel really sorry for those two guards? I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D has non-lethal weapons. They didn't need to kill them. And they seemed like they had a sense of humor (do you want right or left?). I thought maybe they were special guest stars or something. Like the lead writers playing a role.

They did act really casual when the door was breached, i have to say.
Even when the 2nd one lay dying he gave no sine of hostility towards them.

Also they were expecting company, easy line to overlook but potential important.

I am however not sure their actions helpt or impair the clairvoyant's agenda.
But you don't need to be a clairvoyant to forsee an ass grinding from Director Fury in the near future.

I do wonder who owns the base.
The location might suggest a fjord in norway, which could make it a repurposed hydra/nazi installation.
But as for the owner? S.W.O.R.D. does come to mind.
But no way to tell just yet.

I liked the episode. It was mostly on par with other episodes, and the resurrection of Coulson's death as something more interesting than what originally expected.
Kree seems like the best choice. They are all over the Marvel Universe, and they could be tied into the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie, shortly after the season finale of the series. I don't expect Skye turning into a Ms Marvel, though... She is too big a character to be introduced in a TV show spinoff.

Gyron:
Bob, for Lorelei's powers, maybe they only work on someone with a Y chromosome. So gay/bisexual men could be affected but lesbians would not. Which brings her powers into the Asgardian Science paradigm that this universe is building on.

I always thought those powers amplified the attraction people had in them. So, bisexual and lesbians would be vulnerable to her, and men with extraordinary strong will could resist her.

I enjoyed the episode quite a bit, probing deep behind the red tape is something the team should do more often. Though, a real immersion-breaking bit for me is that every time Coulson can't get Fury on the phone, I keep thinking it's simply because Samuel L. Jackson doesn't appear on TV shows very often, not any motive of the character himself.

I totally botched my interpretation of T.A.H.I.T.I, by the way. Didn't get a good sense of scale, and I assumed the blue tint was the liquid and not the skin itself, so my initial reaction was actually that it was Coulson himself in the tube, making the agent we've been watching some sort of clone/cyborg/etc. after all.

Sniper Team 4:

Did anyone else feel really sorry for those two guards? I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D has non-lethal weapons. They didn't need to kill them. And they seemed like they had a sense of humor (do you want right or left?). I thought maybe they were special guest stars or something. Like the lead writers playing a role.

This bugged me as well. The team's use of lethal vs. non-lethal weapons is inconsistent. Didn't Ward use the night-night guns when they were extracting Skye last episode? I don't see why that operation called for a more delicate approach than breaching the Guest House, especially since the optimal plan at G.H. was to peacefully negotiate medical aid.

Yojoo:

Sniper Team 4:

Did anyone else feel really sorry for those two guards? I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D has non-lethal weapons. They didn't need to kill them. And they seemed like they had a sense of humor (do you want right or left?). I thought maybe they were special guest stars or something. Like the lead writers playing a role.

This bugged me as well. The team's use of lethal vs. non-lethal weapons is inconsistent. Didn't Ward use the night-night guns when they were extracting Skye last episode? I don't see why that operation called for a more delicate approach than breaching the Guest House, especially since the optimal plan at G.H. was to peacefully negotiate medical aid.

My guess would be that the night-night guns are limited in some way. I'm guessing the ammo is more expensive/rare, and they may not be as reliable as bullets. Way back in the episode with Scorch, Coulson emptied a whole magazine at Scorch, only to have them be blocked by a wall of fire. Maybe it would have stopped normal bullets, maybe not. Or it could be as simple as them not having any armour-piercing capabilities.

My personal favourite explanation is that seeing as the guns were designed by Fiztsimmons, they may be something only Coulson's team has access to. So Garret wouldn't know about them, and Ward and Coulson don't care about anyone's life but Skye's.

I can't tell if MovieBob is being overly critical or bashing the series this week or attempting to give commentary...either way I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I think the worst part of this series is their schedule for breaks; not a lot of warning before or publicity for their return. I can't get a feel for whether they want it to succeed at this point, but they are letting it play out regardless (which I greatly appreciate). I have said it before but I do enjoy this show, yet I am fully aware of where it is lacking. It is not the most compelling, nor does it have the deepest storytelling, and often times it just seems like the characters and show are just a vessel for the much larger picture in the Marvel Universe (which..well, they are).

That said, I think that this WAS one of if not THE best of the episodes for exactly the reasons Bob stated the opposite. The introduction of characters, furthering of plot points, all while maintaining the current threads (Deathlok and Clairvoyant) all tie together for the potential really great comic book storyline. That's why I watch it. Introducing Garrett (Bill Paxton), Lorelei and the half-Kree/Atlantian/random super-healy-alien asks so many more questions than they answer and are examples of how this show is getting more interesting. Not to mention what will happen to the eventual superhuman-ish Skye, whom I have never minded as a character and hope goes on to big things.

Shows that were meant for limited seasons (Heroes, Lost) initially lost their way in successive seasons because they had a hit that wasn't necessarily meant for longevity, but there was too much money to be made to let it die on the shows terms. This show has an obvious direction; to tie into the movies, while still maintaining a limited level of autonomy.

Arrow is great lol, I love that show and it is definitely deeper and more dramatic than AoS. Neither of these shows are overly high-brow, or ham-fisted in their attempts to push political ideas or current issues. They are both really fun shows, and comics are not always meant to make a statement. I like them both, mainly because they are very, very different.

PBMcNair:

My guess would be that the night-night guns are limited in some way. I'm guessing the ammo is more expensive/rare, and they may not be as reliable as bullets. Way back in the episode with Scorch, Coulson emptied a whole magazine at Scorch, only to have them be blocked by a wall of fire. Maybe it would have stopped normal bullets, maybe not. Or it could be as simple as them not having any armour-piercing capabilities.

My personal favourite explanation is that seeing as the guns were designed by Fiztsimmons, they may be something only Coulson's team has access to. So Garret wouldn't know about them, and Ward and Coulson don't care about anyone's life but Skye's.

All possibly true, but I'd appreciate some explanation from the show itself. I mean, we didn't get any discussion whatsoever about the choice to use lethal force at the Guest House. Couldn't a member of the team say something like "Aren't we expecting to encounter medical personnel?" or "These guys saved your life, Phil. Are you use you want to end theirs?". They have to at least recognize that there will be serious repercussions for killing the guards at a compound that Shield is at least somewhat involved with. The decision to violently attempt to save Skye at all costs would make sense if the Nigh-Night guns didn't exist.

azriel2422:

Arrow is great lol, I love that show and it is definitely deeper and more dramatic than AoS. Neither of these shows are overly high-brow, or ham-fisted in their attempts to push political ideas or current issues. They are both really fun shows, and comics are not always meant to make a statement. I like them both, mainly because they are very, very different.

I watch both Arrow and AoS, and I consider them to be almost opposites. AoS is full of likable characters and good dialogue, but often falls short on action payoff or interesting villains. Arrow's cast is much less interesting and most are one-dimensional characters, but the action is great and each episode's plot tends to be fresh and exciting.

Jeroenr:

They did act really casual when the door was breached, i have to say.
Even when the 2nd one lay dying he gave no sine of hostility towards them.

Maybe the guards were LMD's, or some other synthetic life form? They really did seem to take the destruction of the base, and their impending death pretty well. I guess they could also have been brainwashed.

I think this show is suffering from two problems:

1- too many episodes. I think that shorter seasons allow for better story telling as they allow the creators to concentrate on what important points they want to convey. Look at the UK series or those on HBO or AMC. Of course, shorter seasons do not guarantee quality products.

2- Buffy-esque characters. This has the Whedon DNA all over it; if they had done proper casting with interesting actors (known or unknown, I don't care) instead of another scooby-gang we would have better character driven-plots as opposed to just a bunch of cardboard characters being blow around by the winds of plot. May and Coulson are awesome, but all the other children running around are just play dumb. If Bill Paxton played that muscle-head what's-his-face (Ward?) it would be a better show. And don't start me on Fitzsimmons

Good to see that Bob is off the fanboy bandwagon!

I disagree with the people that believe Ms Marvel is too big of a character for Agents of Shield. She is a C to B list Comic book hero at best and barely movie material and a lot closer to TV material and if marvel and disney/abc were smart they would turn skye into ms marvel. It would inject life into an obviously dying show that I can barely get myself to remember to watch with the boring and uninspired story telling and clear lack of style. you know something is wrong with a show when three to four of the main characters could die and I wouldn't bat an eye. If they can pull off a giant CG plane every episode they can pull off a girl flying and shooting energy from her hands. Skye probably isn't Ms Marvel it is most likely an intended fake out by the writers and producers but that would definitely be a terrible mistake because then they could grow the marvel tv franchise to a shield tv show and an avengers tv show. remember there are a lot of avengers and a tv show would be a perfect place to introduce those characters that would never ever get a minute in a movie a place on a show. Ant Man anyone! no one wants to see Ant Man in a movie but I would watch a live action avengers/ shield show with him and other characters even if we only got references to the big hitters like thor, captain america and iron man.

 

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