Zero Punctuation: inFAMOUS: Second Son - Bad Son Good Son

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inFAMOUS: Second Son - Bad Son Good Son

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews inFAMOUS: Second Son.

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I have this horrible feeling this game is going to move a million copies and we're going to be discussing Infamous Second Son 2 this time next year.

Man....that was a really detailed dildo there at the end eh?

I just realized that I would give my left testicle for a game where your superpower is that you could become TV characters in the real world. Become Barney and sneak into a kid's party! Channel Jack Bauer and get ready for some hardcore interrogation! Turn into Harvey Specter and talk your way out of anything!

At first, I thought he would point out that now his #4 on the top 5 of 2011 would now be Minecraft

Still wondering where that usual Nintendo based episode is.

And whether or not Yahtzee will acknowledge the fact that A Link Between Worlds is actually very good compared to garbage like Yoshi's Island, or when he decides to play Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze/Fire Emblem Awakening and have slightly more faith restored in Nintendo.

Sadly I don't think that's going to come soon because he had to fucking diss ALBW and talk directly about Nintendo instead, instead of actually playing the game and giving it a fair review, though that's probably why he's waiting on another Nintendo episode 'cuz he doesn't want shit in his face about how good ALBW actually was despite the "nostalgia factor" which, by the way, actually made it good because it's still enjoyable and fun compared to god damn Yoshi's New Island.

Weird how polarizing this game is. I really loved it, and it's definitely my favorite of the Infamous series. I will agree that the Paper Trail thing is completely borked though.

All right, I'd known about neon and smoke from the trailers and such, and those seem fine enough. Concrete, while I'm not overly keen on the idea, is more or less logical given the urban setting. But video...what the hell, Sucker Punch?

I've been looking forward to playing Second Son when I eventually buy a PS4. It looks like the best exclusive the console's got to offer right now, despite that not saying much. I sure am glad I didn't rush out and get one expressly for this game though. Really wish SP had come out with a new IP for the next generation instead, which had sort of been a trend for them. And I really, really hope they stop making inFamous games now and do something completely new in the near future, but that seems more and more like nothing but a fantasy every time I think about it. -sighs-

This inFamous success has changed them, maaaaaan.

Yeah, for all the effort put in the performance/face capture of this game compared to the previous ones, I couldn't give a rat's ass about these characters.

And I'm never one to be a downer on current Triple-A games, but in this case it really was just a shinier version of half a game. Less enemy variety, less side missions, and all around less -- or should I say -- no creative ways in which to use your powers.

Now given, the game can actually be quite fun when played Evil, but that's because the Smoke power are way more satisfying to use that way. Vaporizing an enemy with a pyroclastic blast, or grabbing their head and frying out their brains feels more natural than "detaining" them with a whiff of smoke. The game gives no real smart or effective way to handle enemies like the Good powers in the previous games did.

And all the fun it even has to offer stops when the game starts repackaging your powers with only slight variations, and selling them back to you un-upgraded.

Coolblue:
/butthurt nintendo rant

just what the hell does that have to do with this?

Them bioterrorists do have a thing for wearing a lot of layers. Then again it is Seattle...

Thunderous Cacophony:
I just realized that I would give my left testicle for a game where your superpower is that you could become TV characters in the real world. Become Barney and sneak into a kid's party! Channel Jack Bauer and get ready for some hardcore interrogation! Turn into Harvey Specter and talk your way out of anything!

Well, that certainly is a novel power.

Why not go one up, and turn into cliches of real power? You could turn into Justin Bieber and...much up people avs and press big red buttons, I guess. The later might be useful on nuclear submarines, though.

Would date very fast, however.

Second Son really has plonked me into the uncanny valley of enjoyment, on one hand I am having fun, but on the other there's a niggling voice saying stuff I can't hear. As far as Delsin being a wanker I still love him more than Cole because Troy bloody Baker, and whilst he was a smarmy dick he did have more "personality" than Mr. Potato-Head. But the standout character to me was Reggie, playing a role akin to Zeke with a similar payoff.

With Eugene (a typical nerdy name, for a nerdy character) being a stereotypical nerd, I would be bothered by it if I didn't know a lot people exactly like him. I could actually sort of empathize with him a tad to play devils advocate.

But the game did a surprising focus on the drugs, I'm surprised it made it to aussie shores.

And I was pleastly surprised how much I would switch between power sets. Sure the video has air superiority, but the smoke sends up the meter faster.

Geuss I'm one of those wierd fucks that enjoyed myself despite the changes. This is uncool to say, but fuck it, i liked the spray canny do dah. But the motion of having to swipe up whilst hitting the R2 should've been patched the fuck out.

Captain Bellend, he's our hero
Gonna put a boot up someone's rear-o
He's our true selves emphasised
And he's fighting on the bellend side!

...What?

And Good God, I forgot how bad the shoehorned crap could be. I remember all the Sixxxxxxxaxxxxxis crap from early PS3 games before they started pulling their heads out of their asses.

Coolblue:

And whether or not Yahtzee will acknowledge the fact that A Link Between Worlds is actually very good compared to garbage like Yoshi's Island, or when he decides to play Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze/Fire Emblem Awakening and have slightly more faith restored in Nintendo.

I don't know if you want what you think you want. Usually, when people say "Yahtzee! You should review this game, it's better than those other games you didn't like and surely you will like it," he ends up badgered into reviewing a game he wasn't big on and then "disses" it harder because he was badgered. And since the purpose of this approach appears to be the self-assurance that their shit don't stink, the response is never handled well.

I don't know if this is your case, but given you're wondering whether he'll acknowledge it as though it's some self-evident truth rather than an opinion about a toy, I do sort of wonder what exactly your motives are here.

Consider, also, he may have nothing more to say about Legend of Jessica ALBA.

Thunderous Cacophony:
I just realized that I would give my left testicle for a game where your superpower is that you could become TV characters in the real world. Become Barney and sneak into a kid's party! Channel Jack Bauer and get ready for some hardcore interrogation! Turn into Harvey Specter and talk your way out of anything!

I want a game where you can turn into Barney, then waterboard someone, 24-style.

Then again, that might be unfair. Barney's songs, unlike waterboarding, is actually considered torture and inhumane treatment by the US government.

Although I wear a lot of layers, so it might just be the terrorist in me talking.

I quite liked this game, the "evil" playthrough was definitely a lot more enjoyable than the good one.

My one problem with this game was that the camera didn't want to stay focused on the main dupe I was attacking. I always wound up in a situation where I was fighting someone while Delsin was facing the camera.....or maybe that was just me.

Zachary Amaranth:
And Good God, I forgot how bad the shoehorned crap could be. I remember all the Sixxxxxxxaxxxxxis crap from early PS3 games before they started pulling their heads out of their asses.

It could've been worse, they could've made us use the big, flabby L2/R2 triggers for shooting. I think a prominent sign that you fucked up with your controller is having a high profile launch FPS (Resistance: FoM), say 'Yeah, fuck that, we're using L1 and R1'. And then having every other exclussive that involved shooting of anykind follow the same example.

Zachary Amaranth:
I want a game where you can turn into Barney, then waterboard someone, 24-style.

Then again, that might be unfair. Barney's songs, unlike waterboarding, is actually considered torture and inhumane treatment by the US government.

You could just have a game where you turn into Barney, and then sing your songs to people during interrogation until they either tell you everything or commit suicide.

Sadly, I don't think we will ever get a game like this. (At least not until I finish the design document...)

MrHide-Patten:
Geuss I'm one of those wierd fucks that enjoyed myself despite the changes. If this were a bloody Nintendo game I wouldn't have to justify my enjoyent, cause that shit gets a free pass doesn't it?

On THIS site? Pfft.

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Anyway, this video was pretty damn funny right up until near the end. I feel that my attitude towards BC (or lack thereof) is slowly morphing from "well, but I can see why people would still want it" to "Get over it" the longer time passes. Not really something I wanna feel, but there you go.

I never really liked any of the infamous games. I tried the first one when Sony was apologizing for the super security breach of everyones account and found it boring and I think I'm getting the same vibe from Yahtzee on his satyr reviews. At least in Gravity Rush the super power in question was floaty and kind of interesting.

Wait, Austrailians actually drink Foster? I thought that was the shitty knock-off beer then send everywhere else (like what Mexico does with Corona).

This one had me clapping, thanks Yahtzee :)

I actually think the Paper Trail missions are one the best things in the game. So you have to sign up and be online for it, oh darn that is such an inconvenience for me. I just never have my laptop around me....

But no I liked the puzzle quests, just how I liked the rift puzzles from the early AssCreed games. Its a fun little feature.

Weren't two of those powers under NDA?

Casual Shinji:

Zachary Amaranth:
And Good God, I forgot how bad the shoehorned crap could be. I remember all the Sixxxxxxxaxxxxxis crap from early PS3 games before they started pulling their heads out of their asses.

It could've been worse, they could've made us use the big, flabby L2/R2 triggers for shooting. I think a prominent sign that you fucked up with your controller is having a high profile launch FPS (Resistance: FoM), say 'Yeah, fuck that, we're using L1 and R1'. And then having every other exclussive that involved shooting of anykind follow the same example.

Yeah, use of the shoulder buttons was one of the reasons I preferd the 360 in the early stages. But I was always annoyed when the motion controls came up, because I don't sit upright and hold my hands perfectly level when playing, so....

marioandsonic:

You could just have a game where you turn into Barney, and then sing your songs to people during interrogation until they either tell you everything or commit suicide.

Sadly, I don't think we will ever get a game like this. (At least not until I finish the design document...)

There's a Kickstarter that would have no trouble with funding.

Zachary Amaranth:

Casual Shinji:
It could've been worse, they could've made us use the big, flabby L2/R2 triggers for shooting. I think a prominent sign that you fucked up with your controller is having a high profile launch FPS (Resistance: FoM), say 'Yeah, fuck that, we're using L1 and R1'. And then having every other exclussive that involved shooting of anykind follow the same example.

Yeah, use of the shoulder buttons was one of the reasons I preferd the 360 in the early stages. But I was always annoyed when the motion controls came up, because I don't sit upright and hold my hands perfectly level when playing, so....

Well then, dig this... Second Son doesn't just have the hamfisted gimmick implication, it actually starts off with it. The very first bit of gameplay it presents you with is an awkward motion controlled grafitti bit. That was already a really bad start.

I tried to ask this before, hopefully I can get some info on someone who's played this and InFamous 2 before. I liked having all the powers available to me in Infamous 2, ready to be switched to when I wanted and being able to mix and match the different power types. Second Sons seems like a step back to me having to completely switch out power types and I wanted to know if their is any benefit that I'm not seeing for them doing it this way.

anthony87:
Man....that was a really detailed dildo there at the end eh?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

I love how each time Yahtzee reviews a game on the XBone or the PS4, I get this awesome sense of self-satisfaction at the fact that I haven't upgraded yet. Then it's quickly followed by a sort of sadness...when the PS360 released it actually felt new and exciting and like something I really wanted and would be gratified at my excitement and hype. This generation however just doesn't seem to be at all worth it...not yet anyway...

Sticking to my plan then: once the PS4 launch games are down to $20 I'll pounce. I imagine they're be that low in 2015 or so once Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts III launches.

So it turns out a half-assed attempt at a 'popular' game on a half-assed gaming computer is *shockingly* half-assed!
God, I thought the gaming community was done with karma games. It just feels like lazy writing. Like the writers couldn't decide if the player is good or bad and character development is too hard, so f-ck it, lets half-ass it and then blame any problems on gamers having too high of expectations!

CWestfall:
I have this horrible feeling this game is going to move a million copies and we're going to be discussing Infamous Second Son 2 this time next year.

The way everybody has been discussing Dark Souls for the past 4 years?

Thunderous Cacophony:
I just realized that I would give my left testicle for a game where your superpower is that you could become TV characters in the real world. Become Barney and sneak into a kid's party! Channel Jack Bauer and get ready for some hardcore interrogation! Turn into Harvey Specter and talk your way out of anything!

They sell all those outfits in costume shops. Stop waiting for games and go live your dreams.

Would make for an interesting game though.

Zachary Amaranth:
Captain Bellend, he's our hero
Gonna put a boot up someone's rear-o
He's our true selves emphasised
And he's fighting on the bellend side!

...What?

And Good God, I forgot how bad the shoehorned crap could be. I remember all the Sixxxxxxxaxxxxxis crap from early PS3 games before they started pulling their heads out of their asses.

Coolblue:

And whether or not Yahtzee will acknowledge the fact that A Link Between Worlds is actually very good compared to garbage like Yoshi's Island, or when he decides to play Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze/Fire Emblem Awakening and have slightly more faith restored in Nintendo.

I don't know if you want what you think you want. Usually, when people say "Yahtzee! You should review this game, it's better than those other games you didn't like and surely you will like it," he ends up badgered into reviewing a game he wasn't big on and then "disses" it harder because he was badgered. And since the purpose of this approach appears to be the self-assurance that their shit don't stink, the response is never handled well.

I don't know if this is your case, but given you're wondering whether he'll acknowledge it as though it's some self-evident truth rather than an opinion about a toy, I do sort of wonder what exactly your motives are here.

Consider, also, he may have nothing more to say about Legend of Jessica ALBA.

I want a game where you can turn into Barney, then waterboard someone, 24-style.

Then again, that might be unfair. Barney's songs, unlike waterboarding, is actually considered torture and inhumane treatment by the US government.

Although I wear a lot of layers, so it might just be the terrorist in me talking.

What tune is that theme song supposed to be sung to? I like it.
The far greater crime is that Barney was allowed to be shown to SMALL CHILDREN. What monsters!
Now I'm curious how a game called Legend of Jessica Alba would play as?

Casual Shinji:
Well then, dig this... Second Son doesn't just have the hamfisted gimmick implication, it actually starts off with it. The very first bit of gameplay it presents you with is an awkward motion controlled grafitti bit. That was already a really bad start.

Oi.

I probably shouldn't let something like that deter me, and it doesn't in itself. But it doesn't help.

I don't have a PS4 yet, but I am considering shelling out for one at some point. The problem is, in my excitement about PS+ games and discounts and how my PS3's HDD is always full, I forgot about those games I played back when the PS3 launched, and all the forced gimmicks.

And if it starts with one, that sets a bad tone.

Darth_Payn:

What tune is that theme song supposed to be sung to? I like it.
The far greater crime is that Barney was allowed to be shown to SMALL CHILDREN. What monsters!
Now I'm curious how a game called Legend of Jessica Alba would play as?

For some reason, the concept of "Captain Bellend" put that in my head, so I just had to rush off a hasty parody.

I should have included a mini rap. >.>

Small children are resilient, though. Many actually seemed to enjoy Barney. It was the parents who never recovered.

I don't know how it would play, but I bet it would sell a lot.

recurve6:

anthony87:
Man....that was a really detailed dildo there at the end eh?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

Thirded. In fact, wasn't even sure if it was a dildo..

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