No Right Answer: "Greatest" Movie Ever Made

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"Greatest" Movie Ever Made

Chris and Kyle take several whacks at picking the greatest movie ever. Have your own pick? Post it below!

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It is Jurrassic Park because dinosaurs.

lots of good suggestions, under the same formula iron man and avengers helped create the modern superhero movie standard, and then green lantern gave it a black eye.

Hot Fuzz is the best movie ever made. Of course, Hot Fuzz wouldn't be what it is without the innumerable movies before it to parody.

And I'd never heard of The Rocketeer, let alone seen it. The rest, sure, are pretty classic, but The Rocketeer seems like some niche film with a cult following.

Of course it's The Rocketeer. It wins by default for having a young and plump Jennifer Connelly in it.

that was a fun setup, should do it again in future for games, tv shows etc.

Come on, how many movies were in that, like 8... and all American? At least throw one foreign film in there, even though my whole top 20 could easily be made up of mostly non-American flicks.

Blood Brain Barrier:
Come on, how many movies were in that, like 8... and all American? At least throw one foreign film in there, even though my whole top 20 could easily be made up of mostly non-American flicks.

What, you want to sit there and say "400 blows" didn't make you want to nuke France?

But seriously, what are your top 20? We have nothing against foreign films, maybe all we need is some good suggestions?

For me, it's a toss up between Spike Jonze's "Her", and "Drive" by Nicolas Winding Refn.

They are both fucking amazing movies because of how much they stretch movies as a medium: the former is a romance depicted with only one(superb) actor and a voice in the background, and its completely believable. Add to that, its pretty mature in its depiction of everything in that movie(modern relationships, sexuality, culture, technology, society, etc.) and its a movie I find to be a work of art because, despite its imperfections, it still succeeds and surpasses them.

Drive, on the other hand, has very few to no problems whatsoever: the atmosphere that its going for is kept consistent, the utilitarian dialogue doesn't feel strange; it adds to the ambiance, and it is the purest form of acting that is (un-intended) driving the movie. The action scenes, whilst very humble, are very effective, and do feel very tense. Drive, is, what I'd call a close-to-perfect movie, but "Her" ultimately wins it for me, because it creates an experience with even less than Drive does. It's a work of art to me because I think it'd be impossible to re-create it, whereas Drive would probably be manufactured in a slightly easier manner.

The correct answer is the Lego Movie.

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A masterpiece of storytelling, pacing and tone.

For foreign films well I wouldn't say these are "great" but they are certainly a lot of fun

Dead Snow: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1278340/
Calamari Wrestler: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0428662/
Executive Koala: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830581/
The Raid: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1899353/

For artsy fartsy movies (that are still good)

Mongol: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416044/

Firefilm:

Blood Brain Barrier:
Come on, how many movies were in that, like 8... and all American? At least throw one foreign film in there, even though my whole top 20 could easily be made up of mostly non-American flicks.

What, you want to sit there and say "400 blows" didn't make you want to nuke France?

But seriously, what are your top 20? We have nothing against foreign films, maybe all we need is some good suggestions?

I don't mind throwing my own votes in on behalf of foreign films. Ingmar Bergman's Persona, Kurosawa's Seven Samurai or Ran or Rashomon, any of Park's revenge trilogy, The Battle of Algiers (don't recall the director), take your pick of Werner Herzog though my vote would be for Aguirre, The Wrath of God, The Triplets of Belleville is one of my favorite animated pieces, and of course M. I could go on, but that's a handful that deserve spots over nonsense like The Rocketeer (not that I didn't enjoy it, mind.)

Oh, so many great choices and so many great zingers. That part where Chris called the original novel of The Godfather "FUCKING ATROCIOUS" reminded me of the changes Steven Spielberg made to the story of JAWS. He read it, and found the human characters so unlikeable, he said "by the end I was rooting for the shark." i also liked what you said about 2001: A Space Odyssey. I watched it and can confirm it was SO BORING!
Rocketeer for the win! If you haven't seen it yet, DO IT NOW! The director of that one got the job to direct Captain America: The First Avenger!

It's Clockwork Orange.

But I am kind of biased toward Kubrick, my second greatest movie is Full Metal Jacket and Strangelove is somewhere in the top 10.

"Weekend at Bernie's"? What the heck? Never heard of it, but without using Google, IMDB or any other tool, but just based on the name and what the guys were saying about it... I'm guessing some 1980s teen sex comedy?

And DO NOT "DIS" THE ROCKETEER. I freakin' love that movie. Jennifer Connelly was my ultimate teenage crush. Seriously, the white dress... whoa.

My personal choices? "Twelve Angry Men", "Enter the Dragon", "Lost in Translation", or "Wall-E". Totally subjective but they're the movies I just watch over and over again and love each time, for very different reasons.

Top Ten Films to see before you die (imo)

The Godfather Part II

Fallen (1998)

The Usual Suspects

The Fifth Element

Platoon

Leon

Scarface

Dr Strangelove

GoodFellas

Battle Royale

Others worth a mention are:

The Shawshank Redemption
Schindler's List
Pulp Fiction
Apocalypse Now
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Psycho
The Silence of the Lambs
The Shining

There are quite a few more(basically anything Tarantino directed)but if you have never seen any of those films I highly recommend them.

Monty Python's Life of Brian. Not only is it funny, itis clever too. It manages the impossible by parodying people interpreting religion, without parodying religion itself. It contains absurd humor, talking humor, dark humor, slapstick, the whole package. I watched it first when I was like 6 years old, and while I didn't understand most of the themes back then, it has only become better as I've gotten older and come to realize just how much thought went into the making of this movie.

iniudan:
It's Clockwork Orange.

Good choice. I can definitely get behind some Kubrick praise. I love the structure of that film (Alex's journey being mirrored at the start and end with him first as the aggressor, and then as the victim), the music, the weird sets... It's just a beautifully-constructed piece of satire.

TheMadDoctorsCat:
"Weekend at Bernie's"? What the heck? Never heard of it, but without using Google, IMDB or any other tool, but just based on the name and what the guys were saying about it... I'm guessing some 1980s teen sex comedy?

In the context of knowing what the movie actually is, that would make it far, far darker.
Here's the IMDB one-line description: A pair of losers try to pretend that their murdered employer is really alive, but the murderer is out to "finish him off."
Your guess would have to involve some sort of necrophilia.

As for my picks... Nostalgia says The Princess Bride, current personal taste says Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, my social group (who are incapable of other than a joke answer) says Machete.

C117:
Monty Python's Life of Brian. Not only is it funny, itis clever too. It manages the impossible by parodying people interpreting religion, without parodying religion itself. It contains absurd humor, talking humor, dark humor, slapstick, the whole package. I watched it first when I was like 6 years old, and while I didn't understand most of the themes back then, it has only become better as I've gotten older and come to realize just how much thought went into the making of this movie.

And the best thing about it is how much it pisses off people like this

The best movies are all kids movies.
The Iron Giant.
The Lion King.
Toy Story 3.
Lego Movie.
Avengers.

Some of my favorites include:
Dr. Strangelove: or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
Aliens
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Strange Brew
Kelly's Heroes

Of course there are many more, but who has the time to list them all?
Besides, everyone know The Beast of Yucca Flats is the greatest movie of all time. Just look at this stunning masterpiece.

oh wait. I forgot about Italian Spiderman...

Gorrath:

Firefilm:

Blood Brain Barrier:
Come on, how many movies were in that, like 8... and all American? At least throw one foreign film in there, even though my whole top 20 could easily be made up of mostly non-American flicks.

What, you want to sit there and say "400 blows" didn't make you want to nuke France?

But seriously, what are your top 20? We have nothing against foreign films, maybe all we need is some good suggestions?

I don't mind throwing my own votes in on behalf of foreign films. Ingmar Bergman's Persona, Kurosawa's Seven Samurai or Ran or Rashomon, any of Park's revenge trilogy, The Battle of Algiers (don't recall the director), take your pick of Werner Herzog though my vote would be for Aguirre, The Wrath of God, The Triplets of Belleville is one of my favorite animated pieces, and of course M. I could go on, but that's a handful that deserve spots over nonsense like The Rocketeer (not that I didn't enjoy it, mind.)

Oh man, seven samurai was fantastic.

And to be fair, while the Rocketeer is fun, it's mention in context was meant to be nonsense.

movies that probable defined most of my life:
Land before time
Jurassic park
Star Wars
Godfather
Enter the Dragon
Ghost in the Shell
Crouching tiger hidden dragon
rock(EPIC)teer
Toy Story
Iron Giant
Brave little toaster
ECT....
Really I can just go on forever, I would just like to say movies have always been a part of my life.
Like books they took my on fantastical journeys as a kid. Movies were and still are my inspiration and
motivation. Also helped me cope through some rough times in my life.

Firefilm:

Gorrath:

Firefilm:

What, you want to sit there and say "400 blows" didn't make you want to nuke France?

But seriously, what are your top 20? We have nothing against foreign films, maybe all we need is some good suggestions?

I don't mind throwing my own votes in on behalf of foreign films. Ingmar Bergman's Persona, Kurosawa's Seven Samurai or Ran or Rashomon, any of Park's revenge trilogy, The Battle of Algiers (don't recall the director), take your pick of Werner Herzog though my vote would be for Aguirre, The Wrath of God, The Triplets of Belleville is one of my favorite animated pieces, and of course M. I could go on, but that's a handful that deserve spots over nonsense like The Rocketeer (not that I didn't enjoy it, mind.)

Oh man, seven samurai was fantastic.

And to be fair, while the Rocketeer is fun, it's mention in context was meant to be nonsense.

Well yes, of course. I wasn't taking it seriously after they departed from Citizen Kane. I was simply agreeing with the other person you replied to that it was a shame no foreign films were included in the debate. I do LOVE Weekend at Bernie's though! Also, have you seen Ran? Because if you loved Seven Samurai, I demand you see Ran. Go, now... NOW!

Personal favourite: It's a wonderful life(not the colored version btw)

James Stewart as George Bailey is awesome, the story will always be relevant, the pacing is good and the ending warms my cynical heart everytime I watch this movie.

Some of the best movies I've seen that I can remember right now.

Aliens
Dragonslayer (Vermithrax Pejorative FTW)
Terminator 2 (many cite T1 as the better one, but IMO, 2 is absolutely better on every aspect)
The Lion King (the first movie I've ever seen in theatres and it made little 6 year old me cry)
Jurassic Park (because of dinosaurs!... and I still love it's sound design, I always get an eargasm)
Lord of The Rings Trilogy (because it's fucking Lord of The Rings!)

... and I'm too lazy to come up with more movies right now, but yeah, I was ready for a Citizen Kane debate :/

Blood Brain Barrier:

C117:
Monty Python's Life of Brian. Not only is it funny, itis clever too. It manages the impossible by parodying people interpreting religion, without parodying religion itself. It contains absurd humor, talking humor, dark humor, slapstick, the whole package. I watched it first when I was like 6 years old, and while I didn't understand most of the themes back then, it has only become better as I've gotten older and come to realize just how much thought went into the making of this movie.

And the best thing about it is how much it pisses off people like this

Hahahah...oh dear...I feel sorry for those two older chaps...Cleese and Palin is just completely talking them in circles. It must be so frustrating debating people who are either so much smarter, or in so much more an advantageous position...

Regarding their arguments for the first two options. These are just the precursors of modern film that taught the industry how to make the best use of the medium for story telling. This would be like saying the first telephone made by Alexander Graham Bell is the best performing phone because it was the first. Even though the quality was terrible because, of course, it's the first.

That a movie has to change something to be great is a faulty argument. It simply has to be the best. It is extremely rare that the first iteration of a new technology or way of doing something is also is the best. I actually don't know that it's ever the case. Citizen Kane isn't the funnest or most memorable movie to watch for most people.

But hey, at least their video gives the point that everyone has different criteria and different tastes. I'd say that the best way to work with this is to come up with some standards and to debate based on that.

For example, no movies within the last decade (to alleviate the proximity bias) and deciding from a list of movies that are the most popular that fit that range.

Then you could start using other criteria to come up with other films. But yeah, just which movie is the best is too vague and too relative.

The "Best" movie would probably be Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter.

Lightknight:
Regarding their arguments for the first two options. These are just the precursors of modern film that taught the industry how to make the best use of the medium for story telling. This would be like saying the first telephone made by Alexander Graham Bell is the best performing phone because it was the first. Even though the quality was terrible because, of course, it's the first.

That a movie has to change something to be great is a faulty argument. It simply has to be the best. It is extremely rare that the first iteration of a new technology or way of doing something is also is the best. I actually don't know that it's ever the case. Citizen Kane isn't the funnest or most memorable movie to watch for most people.

But hey, at least their video gives the point that everyone has different criteria and different tastes. I'd say that the best way to work with this is to come up with some standards and to debate based on that.

For example, no movies within the last decade (to alleviate the proximity bias) and deciding from a list of movies that are the most popular that fit that range.

Then you could start using other criteria to come up with other films. But yeah, just which movie is the best is too vague and too relative.

Pretty interesting talking about the legacy of Citizen Kane vs Gone with the Wind: Block buster vs. virtuoso talk fest. Flash forward: what would you rather watch: Pulp Fiction/Good Fellas or Captain America Winter Soldier/Harry Potter Order of the Phoenix ?

Me personally? I love Cap. Best movie since Dark Knight. But I'd go with Pulp Fiction.

If only they would make Axe Cop into a movie then that would be the best!

We're this far down the page, and no one has mentioned Casablanca?

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Well done, the Escapist, well done.

...no mention of Metropolis? All those points about "example film #1" teaching directors how to make blockbusters and science fiction, yet you skipped THE movie that first did this?

It's not my favorite by any means, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

There are so many good movies, it's hard to pick a favorite... so just a quick list off the top of my head:

Versus
Southland Tales
Dune (the original one)
9 lives of Thomas Katz (if you're up for complete weirdness)
Arahan
Duelist

Probably many more, but six will do.

Technically Star Wars isn't science fiction, it's space fantasy. ...well the original trilogy was anyway.

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