Jimquisition: Watch Dogs - Five Collector's Editions For One Game? What? F*$%ing WHAT?

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Screw this game, I was already on the fence about getting this game at best, but this is a cash grab that is the final straw and I have no hope for this game anymore. I hate the fact Ubi is the big dog in my city (being both the biggest game developer here and the location of the biggest Ubisoft office).

Even the PS4 has special content with a whole 1 hour mission. lol. Me, i will stick to the original version without all the bullshit on the 360. Special editions are fun for a loved franchise, but not for new ip. An one special edition is enough.

I take it mentioning Gamestop means that specific shops will give you specific benefits rather than all of the editions being available from a singular source. Are these five different editions just from different shops that you can buy?

Ugh, I remember Gears Judgment offering you the original Gears of War Hammerburst in multiplayer if you pre-ordered from GAME, and the same site offers you camos for Black Ops II and Ghosts if you pre-order Advanced Warfare there. I know that those are just smaller scale things, but it seems to be part of the same issue of distributing random benefits to x, y and z for no apparent reason.

Captcha: Eat your dinner. Oh I see, I need to conform to these editions.

Having more choices is actually inherently bad if it's too much. For a gaming example, Paper Mario: Sticker Star Shows how aggravating too many choices can be, sure you have a choice of 100 attacks by the end of the game but you aren't sure if to use jump sticker 10 or hammer sticker 43 because you don't remember if they're going to actually finish the enemy off.

This is also exactly the reason why I avoid most new AAA releases, it's such a mess and pain to sort out what's in the game and what's not, with all the piecemeal DLC and exclusive bonuses. The funny thing is that the bonus content is rarely something important, it's like deciding between a version of Super Mario Bros. were Mario can change colors or a version were the fireball effects can be changed, but the publisher forces you into this arbitrary choice and it's a mess.

Most definitely not gonna touch this game if it has so many things butchered, sectioned off and sold to different stores as if the game was cattle. I'm not an idiot; I know a raw deal when I see one.

Pretty ridiculous. I'll be honest, I'm pretty select when it comes to Collector's editions because I want something that I can point to my friends and say "That's how much I like something." -- Skyrim, Darksiders 2, Saints Row 4. I agree with you on the entire premise of these things needing to be a franchise.

Still, I think that most consumers with extra money also get excited about a title. I have plenty of friends, despite how well a game did, enjoying their statues or whatever. Usually these people are already collectors. Mind, they bought that huge statue for Titan Fall because of the statue, and not so much the game. Is that wrong?

I'd posit that it's not wrong, but of course there was just the one, as far as I know. 5, especially with gated content, is ridiculous. We see these patterns more often now in companies who simply copy the 'success' of something in order to emulate. To be a doppelganger. And that's about what they are.

I know a few folks at Ubisoft and other larger publishing houses, none of which who work on the game, but claim that it's about competitive market space. If you're being talked about, at least you're potentially making a sale. Not sure this is the right way to go about it, but I also don't believe in our antiquated 'marketing' system.

Thank God for not caring about Collectors Editions, Special Editions, or What-have-you Editions. Their impractically large boxes and kitschy statues are apparently the reason I should pay more money. Well, joke's on you, industry.

Ugh Jim, I must say one thing.

I would have to put this a lot more crudely than you have, and I've always appreciated you for your crude, to-the-point approach (even when I disagreed with you). So I suppose it's good that you said it, not me.

You hit the nail on the head with this one.

Somehow, this video feels appropriate for Ubisoft and other publishers pulling the collector's edition bullshit even before the game has come out...

When the next market crash of the games industry comes, I can only hope that the golden parachutes of these corporate douche-bags will be filled with either dirty laundry, silverware, or an anvil. -_-

Yeah. I got the special edition GTA 5, but i have owned every gta game since the first, even the ones that were on handheld like chinatown wars. Watch dogs is new IP, we don't know if its gonna be good, if it is maybe get the special edition of the sequel.Maybe. Also one version comes with the 'iconic' hat. Can a character's costume be iconic if no-ones played it yet and also it's just a regular hat? Really, it's just a baseball cap.

I just bought it for $45. Instead of pre-order special editions, how about just offering discounts? Incidentally, I still think Microsoft store is offering this deal.

Y'know I was super excited about this game, but between this and charging like 50 for the DIGITAL version (when boxed versions are around 40) I really can't feel like I can support this.

Such a shame.

(I have no willpower I'll probably pick it up anyway)

Anyone else find it hilarious how their is an ad for Watch_Dogs right next to Jim's videos?

No one knows just how hyped I was for this game when I first saw it at the surprise reveal all those years back. Now? After all this bullshit and delays? I give up. Great job Ubisoft, you took something that was supposed to bring joy into people's lives and turned it into yet more reasons to just stick with cynicism and never try to be happy...

I'm depressed now, and not just because I've been in the hospital...

This isn't the first time we've seen the spreadhseet problem, and it won't be the last.

Zontar:
Screw this game, I was already on the fence about getting this game at best, but this is a cash grab that is the final straw and I have no hope for this game anymore.

It's Ubisoft, this is what they do.

Evonisia:
I take it mentioning Gamestop means that specific shops will give you specific benefits rather than all of the editions being available from a singular source. Are these five different editions just from different shops that you can buy?

Sadly, no. The editions in question are not shop exclusive except the two which are Ubisoft/uPlay exclusive. Gamestop additionally has a DLC pack. And Amazon has a DLC bonus. These are on top of any edition you might order, near as I can tell.

ex275w:
Having more choices is actually inherently bad if it's too much. For a gaming example, Paper Mario: Sticker Star Shows how aggravating too many choices can be, sure you have a choice of 100 attacks by the end of the game but you aren't sure if to use jump sticker 10 or hammer sticker 43 because you don't remember if they're going to actually finish the enemy off.

It's true in retail, too. It can actually overwhelm and scare off customers.

Because of this, I hope that no one buys Watch Dogs. Anywhere. Ever.

It is a bit of a shame that no customer can get the game and all its content on release day. Knowing that Ubi are witholding content despite walking into a store and paying full price is such a turn off.

It's the same with Saints Row 4. I've wanted it since release but have held off on buying it due to the multitude of DLCs constantly coming out. I'm waiting for a complete edition where I pay once, get all and am done. This is a new, unproven IP and even excepting the bullshot scandal, the resolution misinformation and so on, this preorder multiple exclusive DLC stuff is really too far.

This game will be bought as and when there's an all-inclusive, complete edition, probably in a sale at some point after the reviews Ubisoft are suppressing until release day are in.

Ubisoft has finally gone nuts. Between five collector's editions for Watch_Dogs, continuing to treat potential customers with utter disrespect, outright lying about the graphical capabilities of the game and then acting like gamers who were mad about it are a bunch of spoiled, entitled fuckwits, cutting the Far Cry development cycle in half simply so they can milk it to death, still trying to justify the yearly release of Assassin's Creed, and worst of all, forcing PC gamers to use their broken piece of shit drm platform Uplay, and then refusing to fix that shattered piece of crap?

I'm no longer buying an Ubisoft product. I hope their entire business crashes and burns.

I agree with Jim's salient point. A fair amount of the stuff on the chart seems to consist of physical tchotchkes that of course could only come with physical boxed editions (stuff even the most ardent fan is more than likely to end up eventually tossing in the back of their closet), but the point remains that it's needlessly confusing and restrictive- and as Jim notes, more than likely just encouraging people to wait for the GOTY edition.

Even as I nod at the voice-over, though, I look at the Watch Dogs footage and go, "Ooh, that random NPC just threw her drink into the trash! Cool!" And "They plotted out enough of the ground-floor buildings that you can actually chase someone through one in a random encounter...?"

It's frustrating to feel that buying a game is a nod of approval to a crappy business model, rather than a show of support to aspects of a game that seem laudable.

I'm still where I've been for a while on WD; I'm waiting for reviews, but if they seem favorable enough, I'll buy it at the new price, probably on Steam.

I'm not shelling out for DLC whose length they have figured to the minute, though. That still seems incredibly crass and mercenary to me.

Casual Shinji:
Thank God for not caring about Collectors Editions, Special Editions, or What-have-you Editions. Their impractically large boxes and kitschy statues are apparently the reason I should pay more money. Well, joke's on you, industry.

The thing that bugs me is that you're seeing additional in-game content, like missions and story material, in sets like this. I don't care much about plastic crap that comes with the games, but when I see a bunch of missions offered as DLC, I can't help but wonder how much longer the game would be if it weren't diced up for pre-orders.

Mr. Q:

When the next market crash of the games industry comes, I can only hope that the golden parachutes of these corporate douche-bags will be filled with either dirty laundry, silverware, or an anvil. -_-

Considering it'll likely only happen in cartoons, why not?

thephill:
Can a character's costume be iconic if no-ones played it yet and also it's just a regular hat? Really, it's just a baseball cap.

No, but it hasn't stopped the industry from trying to manufacture culture.

Zero Serenity:
I just bought it for $45. Instead of pre-order special editions, how about just offering discounts? Incidentally, I still think Microsoft store is offering this deal.

They want more money, so no way would that happen.

tmande2nd:
Anyone else find it hilarious how their is an ad for Watch_Dogs right next to Jim's videos?

I'm so used to it at this point I just look at it as business as usual.

Mr. Q:
I can only hope that the golden parachutes of these corporate douche-bags will be filled with either dirty laundry, silverware, or an anvil. -_-

Well, a golden parachute would probably function much like an anvil, in fairness.

OT: Yeah, the first thing I said when I saw that spreadsheet picture (Andy Shandy can likely corroborate this) was "Fuck off, Ubisoft."

I dunno that this will keep me from eventually playing the game, but the entire thing is just disgraceful and really made me wish that Ubisoft didn't occasionally still make good games (just like EA, Activision, Capcom, Square Enix... seems to be a recurring theme here) because it seems like everyone involved in publishing video games is hell-bent on rocketing toward a crash that I steadfastly believed to be impossible only a year ago. Even the indie scene is turning to shite, with everything flooding onto Steam lately with no regards to quality control. I just...

It just makes me sad that this is where gaming has landed. Again. I still think a full crash like the 80's is impossible because gaming is just too big now, but I'll be damned if the developers and publishers aren't trying their hardest to make it happen.

I've never really seen stuff like this as anti-consumer, though I guess it kind of is given that they are putting my enjoyment of a product as secondary to their bottom line. They aren't even helping their bottom line though, which is the tragedy of the thing, my job as a consumer is to get the best content I (legally) can at the lowest cost I (legally) can, if Ubi want to segregate their content like this then the best deal for me is to wait till the inevitable 'ultimate' edition with all the DLC, and if the game does so badly at launch it never gets an 'ultimate' edition? Then too fucking bad, all Ubi has managed to do is lose themselves a sale.

Oh, this is bad. This has gotten really, really terribad. Overpriced AAA title to start with, then misdirection, poor communication and lies, then FIVE collector's editions? Who do they think is going to be left to want to buy this maligned joke of a game now? Who are they even marketing it to now, people who've just wondered in to a gaming store for the first time and randomly selected it???

All that potential, all that work, flushed down the toilet by mismanagement. Ubisoft finally appear to have collectively lost the plot. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

Oh well... I guess I will skip this game then... I'm too busy playing sun-bro in DS2 and having Jolly Co-Op action anyways!

Five full collectors editions? I've not paid Watch_Dogs that much attention but I'm not sure how that level of idiocy slipped past. I'd rather hoped Codemasters' not exactly successful attempt to give alternative track layouts and a few cars as pre-order bonuses for GRiD 2 to difference retailers was as far as I was getting, but then I guess I'm a naive fool. Of course, the difference in GRiD 2's case was the Steam version included all the 'pre-order content' for less then any of the console versions so at least some customers 'won', but I went for ages confused out of my mind about a game I would have otherwise gladly pre-ordered but very nearly didn't even bother with. If that happens with a fan of the series, imagine what would happen to those who are only casually interested.

And the saddest thing of all is there will be one place where you can get ALL the bonus content in one.... piracy!

Kinda pathetic that the people who aren't even paying for it are getting the better more complete version of something.

I just want to point out that if you actually read the spreadsheet, you'd notice that outside of the playstation exclusive content, the standard edition game and season pass nabs you all content for the game thats locked out in "special editions"

Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that all the stuff you cant get using those 2 items are physical things.

Is there a console collectors edition that makes it run at 60FPS in 1080p? They should make the "Broken promises" edition or maybe just the "You are a gullible fool" edition for per-orders.

Scrumpmonkey:
Is there a console collectors edition that makes it run at 60FPS in 1080p? They should make the "Broken promises" edition or maybe just the "You are a gullible fool" edition for per-orders.

"Broken Promises" and "Gullible Fool" sound like the names of "episodic dlc," don't they?

Is this why the game was delayed? In order to get all this "extra content" finished?

Where can I see this spreadsheet? I know Jim showed it i the video, but I want to be able to see the thing in its full glory.

On the plus side if this game bombs massively despite being quite good then I can get it for half the current price in about a month.

I don't really think that collectors editions are that bad (Still kicking myself for not getting the Fallout New Vegas one) but that fucking table...Jesus fuck they overdid it.

Yeah, think imma wait for the game of the year edition.

Well, I was interested in the game. That time has passed, though. I shouldn't have to consult a spreadsheet to figure out which version of the same game I want, when the game isn't even out yet, and there's no word on what the DLC bonus missions even do.

tdylan:

Scrumpmonkey:
Is there a console collectors edition that makes it run at 60FPS in 1080p? They should make the "Broken promises" edition or maybe just the "You are a gullible fool" edition for per-orders.

"Broken Promises" and "Gullible Fool" sound like the names of "episodic dlc," don't they?

Is this why the game was delayed? In order to get all this "extra content" finished?

If i ever make a game those are the DLCs given to the season pas buyers.

Of course Watch Dogs already has a season pass in place. Of course much of this content is already covered by that effectively making it hefty day one DLC. Day one DLC AND a season pass? Next you'll be telling me some of this content is locked on disk. I guarentee at least some of it will be.

Watch dogs seems to be going down the tick list of everything that is toxic with game releases. If you want all the content you HAVE to buy it on PS3 (and experience it in glorious 30fps stutter-vision) Will the PC version be a revelation in terms of being visually better like some are banking on? We don't know yet. But what we do know is that because of all the deals being cut it won't get all the content.

The modern AAA checklist;

Bullshots
Deceptive marketing
Lies about features and performance (the Sony 60fps 1080p listing was up until only 5 days ago guys!)
Day one DLC (and we always suspect cut content DLC)
Exclusive DLC
Fractured 'collectors edition' content
A Season Pass sold before the game is out.

Rumored Possible always on DRM features for PC version because of how the multiplayer is implemented.

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