Watch_Dogs: Quis Custodogiet Ipsos Custodoges

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GamemasterAnthony:
Wow. Such violent. Very Erin.

*gets looks*

Sorry...I saw "Doge" at the end of the title and had to do it.

Indeed, I was expecting something doge related. I am dissapoint.

I always freak out a bit when I see what kind of porn people buy online in Watch_Dogs..

Who will watch doge the watch doges themselves?

Such profound. Much video game. Wow.

Now that the gene-pool-cleansing abilities of the hacking powers have been revealed to me, I realize now that I have been playing Watch Dogs the entirely wrong way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8

I admit I've seen Nickelback... TWICE.

I swear, each time it was actually because I wanted to see Daughtry and Three Doors Down.

Zachary Amaranth:

RJ 17:
Never made it as a wise man,
Couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing.
Tired of living like a blind man,
Sick of sight without a sense of feeling.

And this is how you remind me...
This is how your remind me
Of why I just got clubbed!

These five words in my head say "ow ow ow my head!"

>.>

It's just like them
To be so bland.
Was waitin' on a better rock band.

This time I'm
Mis-take-en
FOR LENDING THEM AN EAR WORTH BREAKIN'!

And I've BEEN wrong!
I've BEEN down
To the bottom of every playlist!
These five words in my head
Say "Are they sounding good yet?"

lacktheknack:

RoonMian:
All right. Corey and Grey love Nickelback. Noted.

wat?

And here I was, thinking that people were getting better at getting the jokes...

So much for getting jokes, huh?

RJ 17:
Never made it as a wise man,
Couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing.
Tired of living like a blind man,
Sick of sight without a sense of feeling.

And this is how you remind me...
This is how your remind me
Of why I just got clubbed!

Nice.

Eh, it's a waste of time getting passionate about Nickelback. It's just mediocre white-people rock music. It's like Internet Explorer or the Star Wars prequels, bland and average crap that all the nerds get really worked up about for some reason.

Then again, I suppose it's better than that video of the guy going around shooting all the Muslims in Watch Dogs.

RoonMian:

lacktheknack:

RoonMian:
All right. Corey and Grey love Nickelback. Noted.

wat?

And here I was, thinking that people were getting better at getting the jokes...

So much for getting jokes, huh?

Yeah, yours was terrible and lacked any form of structure that made it recognizable as a "joke".

Better luck next time for both of us.

Deserved the punch more for being a parking meter attendant if you ask me.

MCerberus:
I think Canada exiles its terrible musicians here in revenge for Americans thinking Canada is "America's Hat"

I wouldn't say that, we haven't managed to offload Hedley on the rest of you yet. Not for lack of trying.

This is what we call a justifiable homicide.

A regular attender of Nickelback concerts AND a parking meter attendant...

I would probably do the same thing

CAPTCHA: geez louise

Is that captcha trying to tell me something?

Replace Nickelback with AKB48 and I'd probably do the same thing.

erttheking:

Ah, but you see, Watchdogs is popular. Therefore it is overrated AAA shlock and everyone who bought it is an idiot. If they thought they enjoyed it, they were wrong.

Well, I'm glad we've cut being reasonable out of being the mix. Now everyone who likes it is a mindless drone and everyone who doesn't is elitist hipster scum. Isn't life simple?

Laser Priest:

erttheking:

Ah, but you see, Watchdogs is popular. Therefore it is overrated AAA shlock and everyone who bought it is an idiot. If they thought they enjoyed it, they were wrong.

Well, I'm glad we've cut being reasonable out of being the mix. Now everyone who likes it is a mindless drone and everyone who doesn't is elitist hipster scum. Isn't life simple?

I joke, but a lot of people really do take that approach.

yunabomb:
Replace Nickelback with AKB48 and I'd probably do the same thing.

AKB48 fans are easy to spot. Just look for the body pillows. Nickelback fans are more insidious. They could be anyone. The government should really start testing people.

Gotta say, some of us have despised Nickelback since day one. It has nothing to do with 'they're popular so we have to hate them'. It has to do with being by-the-numbers pseudo-rock whining which makes your skin crawl.

As Offspring are to punk, Nickelback are to rock. Not merely bad, not merely commercial, but the absolute antithesis of everything those things used to be.

Yes, I take these things way too seriously. So what? I like music.

Yep, nobody's made the nickleback joke before, hilarious, almost shit my britches, such amusement.

OT: I really don't get the whole nickelback thing, they aren't as bad as other bands, I don't like them but I respect why other people might. Also that joke is tired as fuck and you should feel bad for using it.

References

Revolutionary:
Yep, nobody's made the nickleback joke before, hilarious, almost shit my britches, such amusement.

OT: I really don't get the whole nickelback thing, they aren't as bad as other bands, I don't like them but I respect why other people might. Also that joke is tired as fuck and you should feel bad for using it.

Fads come and go. People tend to mock something not because the "something" in question is necessarily bad, but because hating on it is currently "in".

As for Nickelback, I dunno, heard a few o their songs eons ago, then they dropped off my radar, and now I'm like "Wait those are still on the scene?"

I nearly drove into a lightpost when Nickelback was on CBC today. Then the DJ had the nerve to say it was a great song with great vocals.

....

I'm with you Erin.

A parking meter attendant AND Nickleback fan? Good god man, I think you found satan.

MetalMagpie:

marioandsonic:
Okay, this is something I've been wondering for a while now, since I don't really follow music that much:

When did Nickleback become such a big punching bag for the Internet?

*shrugs* Internet hatred is generally tied to mainstream popularity, so it's a compliment in a weird way. I personally quite like Nickelback, although I wouldn't bother seeing them live.

OT: This strip unfortunately made me think of Sophie Lancaster, who was beaten to death in a skate park, apparently just for being a goth (or a "mosher" as her attackers called her when they bragged to their friends about it).

One of my favourite bands, Delain, made a song about that incident!
It's called "We are the others".
It's sad that we live in a world where people are judged and even beaten to death for how they clothe themselves or for their music taste.
Although for people who listen to Nickelback I'll make an exception. :-P

Guy likes different music than you = beat him up with a baton.
I may have missed a joke somewhere.

The Rogue Wolf:

Darth_Payn:
I think Pierce looks freaked out because he looked up Erin's info while she was beating up that Nickelback fan.

Erin Stout, age 27, occupation: Video Games Journalist. Talks to video-game characters who aren't really there; sometimes throws consoles at people.

Darth_Payn:
OK, I like their song, "Rock Star", and the video for it.

I like "Photograph", but that aside... well, a friend of mine told me how her favorite radio station played three Nickelback songs over each other and they matched up almost perfectly. Chad Kroeger knows his three chords and he's stickin' to 'em.

That's 3 chords more than most of us know i would guess, and if he can make a living out of them, more power to him.
There's a few Nickelback songs i like, Photograph, Hero (hate the music video though), someday...
Probably others i've enjoyed listening but can't put a name on.

Zachary Amaranth:

canadamus_prime:
Attending Nickleback concerts seems like a legit reason to murder someone to me.

And this is why Erin Stout is my hero.

RJ 17:
Never made it as a wise man,
Couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing.
Tired of living like a blind man,
Sick of sight without a sense of feeling.

And this is how you remind me...
This is how your remind me
Of why I just got clubbed!

These five words in my head say "ow ow ow my head!"

>.> (This is great. XD)

wAriot:

Seriously though, he's a real psychopath, even if you try to be a "good guy", most missions involve being a complete asshole.

Something we tend to ignore in our heroes. Hell, I've seen Greg House defined as "Chaotic Good" so many times I sort of want to burn all the D&D books. (Please Elaborate.)

Neronium:
Then again, Nickleback concerts are probably dirt cheap. :P

I hear Nickelback got their name because if you paid with a dime, you got a nickel back.

And when I say "hear," I mean "made up because it's better than the real story." (Makes sense to me.)

[quote="marioandsonic" post="6.851929.21064607"]

How is he nuts? Also, mind giving me more of a definitton of Chaotic Good with examples?

Revolutionary:
I really don't get the whole nickelback thing, they aren't as bad as other bands

I disagree.

See, Korn turned into a joke because their target audience grew up and they had to find new ways to justify their existence so they've basically been riding nostalgia ever since and trying to catch up with Linkin' Park, who have themselves massively dug so deep into a rut that they've probably breached the earth's mantle but who started out with a pretty interesting and original premise.

But Nickleback.. It's just like the worst excesses of generic American rock music where you just say "rawk" and "yeawh" a lot and play the same three power chords in every song and for some reason people throw money at you. It's bad, but it's not even bad because it's trying something new and failing (like a tired old new metal band collaborating with an overrated electronic musician to produce a song which sounds like a Slipknot tribute band). It's bad because it was never trying, because the people it's selling to don't care.

The Rogue Wolf:

I like "Photograph", but that aside... well, a friend of mine told me how her favorite radio station played three Nickelback songs over each other and they matched up almost perfectly. Chad Kroeger knows his three chords and he's stickin' to 'em.

I don't know about three, but this has been around for ages:

I don't HATE Nickelback, but I couldn't stand to listen to enough of their material to find repeating songs, let alone ones you could line up so formulaic.

Oh, and not to be pedantic, but it's four chords. Which makes a TON of difference. Because....Ummmm...

nyysjan:
There's a few Nickelback songs i like, Photograph, Hero (hate the music video though), someday...
Probably others i've enjoyed listening but can't put a name on.

Get him!*

I remember liking a couple of songs in their entire repertoire... not those though.
The main one being:

Which really, is a good title for their music. :p

*Relax, joking.

Revolutionary:

OT: I really don't get the whole nickelback thing, they aren't as bad as other bands, I don't like them but I respect why other people might.

I would rather listen to Korn, Skrillex, or Korn ft Skrillex than Nickelback.

And I really dislike dubstep, so that's saying something.

Not a big Korn fan, either.

Vegosiux:

Fads come and go. People tend to mock something not because the "something" in question is necessarily bad, but because hating on it is currently "in".

And the fact that people have been "hating on" Nickelback for more than a decade now might indicate it wasn't a fad. People who talk about long-lasting dislike/disapproval as a fad remind me of the people who still think video games and that hippity hoppity music are fads.

mjharper:
Gotta say, some of us have despised Nickelback since day one. It has nothing to do with 'they're popular so we have to hate them'. It has to do with being by-the-numbers pseudo-rock whining which makes your skin crawl.

Chad's voice is grating, too. Especially the way they process it in production. I'm sorry, it's a legit criticism. Not only are they artistically bankrupt pop-rockers, but they're annoying. Well, Chad is annoying.

"Cool to hate" is an excuse that's "cool to make."

How is he nuts? Also, mind giving me more of a definitton of Chaotic Good with examples?[/quote]

When I say "Chaotic Good," I'm going by these definitions[1]:

D&D SRD via Wikipedia:
A Chaotic Good character favors change for a greater good, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom, not only for oneself, but for others as well. They always intend to do the right thing, but their methods are generally disorganized and often out of alignment with the rest of society. They may create conflict in a team if they feel they are being pushed around, and often view extensive organization and planning as pointless, preferring to improvise.

Specifically, the issue of "Good" in D&D terms comes up:

D&D SRD via Wikipedia:
Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.

Gregory House does not have respect for life or concern for dignity of sentient beings, nor is he even remotely altruistic. While a particularly nerdy example, it does demonstrate the way we rationalise the people we like as being "good." Many video game characters are good examples: several GTA protagonists, the Boss from Saints Row, Aiden apparently fits, etc. People have championed them as actually good.

As for House and him being "nuts," have you actually watched the show? Guy's been institutionalised, drove a car into a house, and routinely endangered lives.

[1] Keep in mind, that the concepts change per edition. Int 2E, there was a moral relativism and in 4E, "Chaotic Good" no longer exists

nyysjan:

That's 3 chords more than most of us know i would guess, and if he can make a living out of them, more power to him.

Not really actually. The 3 chords are the basic shape power chord, first finger on the top or second string, then the 3rd and if you like, the 4th fingers on the two strings below two frets higher. And Nickleback frequently uses that "chord" (Power chords aren't actually chords), on the 1st fret, 3rd fret, and I'm tempted to say 3rd fret on the second string.

They're not so bad about it as say, Blink-182, who've been doing pretty much that, and worse, in 4/4 bars of quavers, forever, but it's noticable on a few of their more played songs as Zachary pointed out. I wouldn't dismiss them for that, since there's plenty that shows more range, like say "Flat on the Floor", or "Something in your mouth" etc. And hell, punk rock was built on the whole "Three chords and the truth" bit, and I doubt you'll see any Ramones or Minor Threat doing much more than that.

lacktheknack:

RoonMian:

lacktheknack:

wat?

And here I was, thinking that people were getting better at getting the jokes...

So much for getting jokes, huh?

Yeah, yours was terrible and lacked any form of structure that made it recognizable as a "joke".

Better luck next time for both of us.

Well I got ALL of the jokes. Does that make me smarter than all of you?

I'd be surprised that people focussed more on the "Nickelback" thing and less on the "Parking Attendant" thing... but hey, I can still remember when "How You Remind Me" was ubiquitous. Now that's a song I DON'T want to be reminded of.

It's possible the reason she beat him up was because he's a parking meter attendant; not for the Nickleback thing.

TheMadDoctorsCat:
I'd be surprised that people focussed more on the "Nickelback" thing and less on the "Parking Attendant" thing... but hey, I can still remember when "How You Remind Me" was ubiquitous. Now that's a song I DON'T want to be reminded of.

... Nevermind... Someone beat me to this.

So Miss Stout here is saying that it's ok to savagely assault someone for liking something that she doesn't and/or doing their job? Or are the writers just messing with us by adding in the Nickleback and Parking meter attendant thing and letting us debate which was the true reason?

Lady Erin is just being her usual impulsive self. Who may or may not be hallucinating Adrien in place of the hapless driver.

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