Escape to the Movies: Transformers: Age of Extinction - Better Than The First Three

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Transformers: Age of Extinction - Better Than The First Three

Transformers: Age of Extinction is surprisingly good, despite having a whole host of flaws.

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It wouldn't surprise me if the reason Bob isn't quite so harsh on this one is because he's used up his yearly amount of bile on The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

So the film succeeded (kinda) even outside the robot dinosaurs? Colour me surprised, though I'll still probably hold off on this one.

Saw this last night at an early showing. Enjoyed it alot more than any of them so far.

Gotta agree with Bob, best of the bunch so far, by a wide margin. And like he said, I agree that this was probably the first time in the series where I actually legitimately CARED about any of the characters. Especially considering Bay's habit of just killing of characters with little warning.

Kinda funny how he says in this review he has no problem with people just going to see big robots and explosions on-screen here, whereas in previous Transformers films he's stated that he thinks people who do that are complete morons. And that's not me going over the top, if I remember rightly in either his T2 or T3 review, or maybe one of his Big Pictures, he said something like: "at least these people are in a cinema and not in a car or voting booth where they could do a lot of damage."

Bob... enjoyed it?

wat.

*looks out the window*

I see no streets filled with lava, meteors falling from the sky, or cats co-existing peacefully with dogs. So either its acctually not a bad movie, if not a diposable action flick sort, or Bob got replaced by a T1000 who is controlled by coprorate advertisers.

Anyways, after having watched the third Bayformers movie last night on TV, I don't think it could've possibly been worse than that. I watched out of morbid curiousity, but it went on forever. Turns out, its two-and-a-half hours long. Like, WTF? Who thought that was a good idea?

>Better than the first 3.

Well, that's... backhanded to say the least.

Did anyone else need to check today's date to be sure that it wasn't 1st of April?

Movie Bob is in the minority here. It's reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are currently the worst in the franchise.

Well that was a let down. I was hoping for a complete beating. I mean come on, its an American blockbuster that talks up the CHINESE GOVERNMENT! because they paid for it. How awful is that.

I'm still not sure wheather or not to watch it but I do got one question about the Dionbots (I read the film summary)-

There arn't racially insensitive characters in this one and you're telling me the film has respect for China!

And it does have robot dinosaurs...

*cringe*

Alriiiiiight... i'll give it a go. I skipped 3 after 2 was so damn awful so if this turns out bad I suppose it evens out.

Hmm, I guess my tradition of only watching these movies with the accompanying Rifftrax will be broken this time around.

I was getting the feeling that this one would turn out alright. Glad it did. :)

Hopefully Bay will be able to keep the momentum. Heck, maybe he'll even come around to like the damn toys. ;p

At any rate, I think the least we can ask of a transformer movie, is that it be fun.

Also, looking forward to the next Pacific Rim. :)
Didn't know they were making a new Mad Max movie. Was that the kid from the original grown up a bit?

Agreed, except for the boring part. I almost fell asleep in the movie - didn't help that it was about 3 hours at the end of a very long day for me. If I didn't have to drive my friend back to his place afterward I would have left halfway through.
The beginning had me interested, but during the last hour and a half of explosions I just kept thinking that the 4th of July is right around the corner, and at least I'll be able to grill something and talk to people.

Scarim Coral:
I'm still not sure wheather or not to watch it but I do got one question about the Dionbots (I read the film summary)-

Plot spoiler here, read at your own risk:

C.S.Strowbridge:
Movie Bob is in the minority here. It's reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are currently the worst in the franchise.

So far, with over 5,000 reviews on IMDB, its faring better than Revenge of the Fallen and Dark of the Moon are. Furthermore, user ratings on Rotten Tomatoes rate it drastically higher than either of those two as well.

Ok bob man I'm done. You just spoiled the entire movie. Thanks for the videos.

C.S.Strowbridge:
Movie Bob is in the minority here. It's reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are currently the worst in the franchise.

Second worst because Wikipedia says that it is just one percent above Revenge of the Fallen with revenge having 19% (though, given that reviews there supposedly have a 1% error, significant overlap is possible)

OT, I really want to go watch this movie, I do but everything I do I just get angered at stupid parts. yes, i'm glad that Bay's american affection is probably now more directed towards normal civilians instead of the government and that the Chinese are supposedly competent (given that the movie would have been cut or restricted if it didn't show the Chinese as competent, this is not surprising), I just know something will piss me off; either the science, story structure or something else.

On a bit more of a scientific perspective, the trailers showed a metal that is what allows the transformers to exist and morph but from a metallurgy view, this is utter bull. the metal being able to slip past itself and the like would mean a lot of slip planes and material defects but this would cause the metal to be harder to manipulate afterwards. The only way this could work is if the atoms are in unstable energy states constantly and are able to move around like a liquid which would mean that it is more a metal gel then an actual metal or it is able to anneal and harden by itself with which raises a whole new set of questions.

Okay overthinking done, the point is that I will probably go into the theater in a cynical mood and come out pissed.

This doesn't surprise me

It has popcorn flick written all over it... and I shall enjoy it for just that

Is it me, or does this review feel a bit underhanded. He didn't hate any of it, but he still had to find something he didn't like. The whole concept that every movie has to have some kind of underlying message is just stupid. If I see a movie about giant robots that transform, I'm not looking for any message and any message that may appear is really just a little more icing on the cake.

I'm definitely interested if for no other reason I really like Wahlberg as an actor and wouldn't mind seeing what he brings to the movie. Now if only I could convince my girlfriend to go see it with me.

Rabidkitten:
Well that was a let down. I was hoping for a complete beating. I mean come on, its an American blockbuster that talks up the CHINESE GOVERNMENT! because they paid for it. How awful is that.

I don't think that it's the Chinese paying and more the ministry of culture having guidelines that make it so that criticism of China is restricted.

Interesting.

I'm a bit disappointed because so much of the marketing seemed to hint quite heavily that Unicron might be in the works in some form. (The reveal of Galvatron, a fleet of earth eating ships, the "age of extinction" tag line)

Doubly so because I prefer the Primus/Galvatron, creator/destroyer retconned origin myth for the Transformers much more than anything the Quintesson's managed to bring to the table.

I haven't seen the film yet myself so I'll reserve judgment, but I've heard from friends pretty much the same as what was provided here. It's still a big, dumb, bloated, Michael Bay film but the simple act of swapping out Sam and his family for a much less slapstick heavy group of humans and a significant reduction in "balls deep military pandering" makes the movie much more watchable.

Lastly, it's good to see that Bay has at least one other story in him for these movies that doesn't rely on the "The Transformers were here all along!" story line that the original trilogy recycled for each film (though I imagine he goes back to that well for the Dinobots.)

Just gimme a Gundam Wing film already. Transformers should be old news. Also I tend to believe Movie Bob more than Rotten Tomatoes. I've seen a bunch o films they said were not good and turn out they were ok.

"...which doesn't mean much."
That was my first thought regarding the title of this review.

Also, no more Sam Witwicky? Less/no pathetically obvious pandering employing young women's bodies that only makes me think "I have plenty of porn for that"? A grown man with a family as the protagonist instead, thin as those characters may be? No stereotypical black guy yelling at his "mammy" or whatever? Good.

Leemaster777:

Scarim Coral:
I'm still not sure wheather or not to watch it but I do got one question about the Dionbots (I read the film summary)-

Plot spoiler here, read at your own risk:

Okay, this raises a few questions

This movie is giving me a headache and I haven't even watched it.

I'm genuinely shocked, I expected this to be the worst of the four by far. Thank goodness I won't have to suffer as much seeing this one. The other three I was literally peer-pressured in to seeing by either friends or family so its nice to know I'll feel better about it this time around.

Hmmmm... A Bayformers movie that doesn't suck... or at least it's alright at best. I'll need to check this out, ironically, I can stand the first two films (thank goodness for good spanish dub), but the third film, even with the same dub cast... I just can't stand it, it's a complete chore to watch.

But dem dinobots... even if for a little glimpse... I'm yearning for some good ol' fashined dino-thingy destruction and Godzilla just scratched that itch slithgly. I think this is the first time I'm cosindering to watch a Bayformers film on theatres instead of TV/Netflix.

Meh. I wouldn't consider "it's not godawful" to be stirring praise and while that seems to be the status quo I'm not sure it's something we should just come to accept.

I'm much more interested in the War for/Fall of Cybertron series playing out in the video games right now. Hasbro says they're trying to merge them all into one big single narrative (which is probably why we got the new Dark Spark game that no one in their right mind ever asked for) but the game itself plays like the video games and is written by a team that really enjoys Transformers. I'll stick to that.

I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of the PRC being portrayed as "the good guys" in any sense. It's not that I don't respect the Chinese people and their many languages and cultures, but from an objective stand point there's not much nice to say about the mainland government. They have a state run arms company that sells guns in places like Darfur, they brought back the mobile execution van (an invention of the NKVD, later used by the Nazis), they overproduce cars and houses that no one will ever buy to inflate their economy, do not have protections for free speech, and no environmental protections whatsoever.

If you wanted to tell a story where normal Chinese PEOPLE are shown in a positive light, that's just fine and if anything we should encourage that kind of story. It's nice to have Non-white, non American protagonists. But making the Chinese GOVERNMENT look good completely ignores history. It's one thing to have escapist fantasy, but imagine an action movie set in the forties where the Nazis helped America defeat a giant monster. Sure, we can think about how great it is that people can "put aside their differences", but at the end of the day you're still talking about the people that murdered millions of Jews, Gypsies, and the differently abled.

I'm not arguing that you can never show complicated international relations, or that every movie that features the Chinese government has to be an anti Communist propaganda, but you can't divorce reality from fiction if your story involves a very real thing.

petef201:
Kinda funny how he says in this review he has no problem with people just going to see big robots and explosions on-screen here, whereas in previous Transformers films he's stated that he thinks people who do that are complete morons. And that's not me going over the top, if I remember rightly in either his T2 or T3 review, or maybe one of his Big Pictures, he said something like: "at least these people are in a cinema and not in a car or voting booth where they could do a lot of damage."

I think that the film broke him, in a more subtle way than Amazing Spiderman 2 did... like some perverse abusive relationship. On the other hand, if he went in expected utter dreck, and it turned out to be merely barely edible dreck...well, that's an improvement I suppose.

I realized a while ago that Moviebob and I rarely agree on things, but that's okay, and I value his opinions. Besides, opinions change. So, while I think he's sort of taking the piss on this one, it is still an amusing enough review, and food for thought.

Izanagi009:

Leemaster777:

Scarim Coral:
I'm still not sure wheather or not to watch it but I do got one question about the Dionbots (I read the film summary)-

Plot spoiler here, read at your own risk:

Okay, this raises a few questions

This movie is giving me a headache and I haven't even watched it.

Believe me, that isn't even the beginning of the story when it comes to all the massive plot-holes this movie is basically made of.

If you try to actually THINK about this movie, all you're going to get for your trouble is smoke coming out of your ears.

Keep in mind that Bob's opinion differing from the masses has been consistent throughout the franchise, so it makes sense it would differ here. At least the vitriol is practically disappeared in this one.

Bob, what exactly are you looking for in a Transformers movie? Is it a crossover with Pacific Rim and Godzilla at the same time? Because I am so on board with that.

I kind of get the feeling that a few more sequels down the line and Bay will actually deliver something competent. He seems like he's actually growing as a filmmaker, but I haven't actually seen the third TF movie so I don't feel as vitriolic as most other nerds probably do.

I hope I don't get roped into seeing this one.
The First, I was young.
The Second, I went "F*** DAT racist Sh!t" and swore never to go see the next one.
The Third, my friends made me go, it was still crap but better than the second (not like that was hard or anything)

I really don't want to see this one, I really don't. :(

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