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The Purge: Anarchy - Original Idea Done Better

The sequel to last year's flop forsakes horror for full-on action and political commentary.

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When I first seen an advert for this film I nearly groaned (especially because The Purge came out in the middle of last year), colour me surprised and a bit interested.

And wow, I wasn't interested in the Power Rangers film, but that almost seems like a gunshot wound to the knee before the film's even got started.

The first movie i think was a horrible waste of time, it really was a real waste of idea. Really stupid. Glad to see the sequel has at least some merit too it. I probably won't end up seeing it though as the bad taste to 1st one left in my mouth is yet to wash out.

On another note in sad we proabaly won't be getting a "Snowpiercer" episode as that movie needs all the help it can get since Weinstein took a big dump all over it's release. This fucking industry i swear to god...

Go-go bland rangers!

And now I will go sob in a corner like a little baby because I had legitimate high hopes for the Power Rangers movie. Not only is it headed by a terrible screenwriter but also a legitimate crazy person. T-T

During your list of what people would more realistically do during a "Purge" type situation, all that came into my mind was being a nuclear terrorist. Create, distribute, and detonate nuclear explosives across a section of the country. Would create a definite dichotomy in how people would react. "Support the Purge? You support thermonuclear terrorism." "Enforce laws during the Purge? It's no longer the Purge." And add in all the international hate from it, the "New Founding Fathers of America" would be in big shit because of it. :D Of course it wouldn't happen.

But yeah, the annoyingly huge marketing showed me that P:A was definitely going to be better than the original. But still... Practically a commercial for P:A every minute. Was annoying.

The question is then, is it worth $11 to go see?

"The sequel to last year's flop forsakes horror for full-on action and political commentary."

The Purge production budget $3 million world wide gross $89 million.

If 30 times your production budget is a flop then every superhero film ever made is a mega flop.

Well, this all of the suddenly looks good to me. I thought it was going to be the same as the first essentially, which was a movie I never wanted to see and hated it when I did finally see it.

Also, Punisher wanna be? Guy's name is frank and he looks identical to the Grim and Gritty era Punisher everyone loved, even has a similar storyline to him pursuing this or that crime boss for revenge. I'm all in on this one.

Good review, although you really could have trimmed down the "things people would actually do" list. Seriously, after the first five examples you could haves just said "etc, etc" but you just KEPT GOING ON AND ON.

youji itami:
"The sequel to last year's flop forsakes horror for full-on action and political commentary."

The Purge production budget $3 million world wide gross $89 million.

If 30 times your production budget is a flop then every superhero film ever made is a mega flop.

If I remember right, flop can also just mean failure. Though I, like most people, associate the word with commerical performance.

Evonisia:

youji itami:
"The sequel to last year's flop forsakes horror for full-on action and political commentary."

The Purge production budget $3 million world wide gross $89 million.

If 30 times your production budget is a flop then every superhero film ever made is a mega flop.

If I remember right, flop can also just mean failure. Though I, like most people, associate the word with commerical performance.

A film is only a failure if it doesn't make money that's why films that make money even if critically savaged still get sequels.

Flop is associated to box office bomb to the degree it's the first entry for flop on Wikipedia.

Flop is simply the wrong term for the first purge, dull, underwhelming or forgettable would have been far more accurate.

@ImBigBob: I think the length of the list was a good joke; it showed the spectrum of things that could be done, ranging from stupid to evil.

OT: Sounds good. I do have to wonder if the bad guys bought their body armour during the last Purge when "Selling shoddy merchandise that appears to be made of cardboard for all the good it does" was legal.

KazeAizen:
I had legitimate high hopes for the Power Rangers movie.

High Hopes?...seriously? lol

Even as a kid I was very aware of how lame Power Rangers was. I mean, aside from a catchy intro song, the show was just awful. Say what you will about the 80's toy cartoons, at least they had some interesting episodes and non-terrible dialogue from time to time.

I don't even understand how they could possibly make a movie based on it...I mean, what, are they going to have the actors doing bad karate fighting with dudes in silver spandex with plastic weapons? Or are they going to go the 'gritty realistic' route which would be even more laughable.

We should be so lucky that that moron is writing it. Means there's a chance it will flop and we don't have to go through any sequels -_-

I'm not sure what to expect from the new Power Rangers movie. I owned all the toys as a kid but it's not one of those major geekdom staples I stayed a fan of like how a lot of 80's kids are with Transformers or my gen are with Pokemon. It's not like the original film was deep... just an excuse to reset the team for a series of new toys, although I enjoyed Ivan Ooze.

ron1n:

KazeAizen:
I had legitimate high hopes for the Power Rangers movie.

High Hopes?...seriously? lol

Even as a kid I was very aware of how lame Power Rangers was. I mean, aside from a catchy intro song, the show was just awful. Say what you will about the 80's toy cartoons, at least they had some interesting episodes and non-terrible dialogue from time to time.

I don't even understand how they could possibly make a movie based on it...I mean, what, are they going to have the actors doing bad karate fighting with dudes in silver spandex with plastic weapons? Or are they going to go the 'gritty realistic' route which would be even more laughable.

We should be so lucky that that moron is writing it. Means there's a chance it will flop and we don't have to go through any sequels -_-

Someone could make a good film about a disembodied, all knowing, glowing head granting a select group of youngsters interstellar weapons/mechs to fight the mad queen of the moon and her army of monsters... it would proberly be nothing like the show though...

I liked Snowpiercer, but I don't get all the love for it. It was predictable, cheesy, cartoonish and it really had no subtlety whatsoever. Look at Tilda Swinton's character in Snowpiercer for subtlety.

It's a cool idea, but other than the feeding kart, the New Year indicator and the school kart, it's pretty much a by the numbers sci-fi B-movie.

youji itami:
"The sequel to last year's flop forsakes horror for full-on action and political commentary."

The Purge production budget $3 million world wide gross $89 million.

If 30 times your production budget is a flop then every superhero film ever made is a mega flop.

Hollywood don't do niche son, it's all or nothing!

I don't understand why Bob gives the first Purge movie so much flak for not being as smart as it could've been. In an earlier review of his I remember him saying something along the lines of "Review the movie you got, not the movie you want".

I didn't think the original was any great shakes, mind you; but for all the problems I had with it "not trying to be more profound" wasn't one of them.

This does seem like a fun enough action-movie though, and I like Frank Grillo as an actor so I'll probably check this out too at some point.

TheMemoman:
I liked Snowpiercer, but I don't get all the love for it. It was predictable, cheesy, cartoonish and it really had no subtlety whatsoever. Look at Tilda Swinton's character in Snowpiercer for subtlety.

It's a cool idea, but other than the feeding kart, the New Year indicator and the school kart, it's pretty much a by the numbers sci-fi B-movie.

I love Snowpiercer because it had a quite a lot of black humour and surrealism mixed into it. Most movies these days tend to play their post-apocalyptic worlds straight, grim and gritty, and I really miss the absurdist worlds portrayed in, say, Terry Gilliam's Brazil or Total Recall.

ron1n:

KazeAizen:
I had legitimate high hopes for the Power Rangers movie.

High Hopes?...seriously? lol

Even as a kid I was very aware of how lame Power Rangers was. I mean, aside from a catchy intro song, the show was just awful. Say what you will about the 80's toy cartoons, at least they had some interesting episodes and non-terrible dialogue from time to time.

I don't even understand how they could possibly make a movie based on it...I mean, what, are they going to have the actors doing bad karate fighting with dudes in silver spandex with plastic weapons? Or are they going to go the 'gritty realistic' route which would be even more laughable.

We should be so lucky that that moron is writing it. Means there's a chance it will flop and we don't have to go through any sequels -_-

Wow just.....wow. Why don't you kill my puppy while you're at it. Yes I had hopes for this movie. After seeing how awesome giant robots and monsters can truly be on screen thanks to Pacific Rim and Godzilla I started getting excited for this movie. You know not all Power Rangers are "bad" in the sense that we think of. Some seasons are legitimately great or even just good despite adhering to a rigid formula. Wild Force, Space, and Dino Thunder are legitimately great seasons of the show. Mighty Morphin had a great story line with the Green Ranger arc.

Another thing. The choreography for the fight scenes wasn't always bad. Heck the direction of them and the actual fights themselves actually rose to pretty impressive levels from time to time. Like the end battle in Forever Red.

I just have little hope now that the movie will be good and it had so much potential to be awesome. Perhaps its time I felt what 80s G1 Transformers fans have felt. This could've been such a great movie, could still be, but I doubt it.

Uriel_Hayabusa:
I don't understand why Bob gives the first Purge movie so much flak for not being as smart as it could've been. In an earlier review of his I remember him saying something along the lines of "Review the movie you got, not the movie you want".

I think one of the issues is that "the movie we got" was executed in such a way that we didn't need the "Purge" premise. They could have been a family at a remote cabin in the woods, and it would have amounted to nothing more than another check mark on the "yep! Home invasion movie" list. The movie we got gives us a premise like the purge, and then barely does so much as mention sociological/political questions that an event such as the purge raises.

In other news: let's look past the question of "what kind of america would allow something like the purge," and ask "what kind of world would sit idly by while a nation initiates the purge?" And I'm not simply asking "Why does the United Nations not step in and intervene on the grounds of the rich hunting the poor." I'm asking "Why do nations like north korean lay in wait on the very precipice of the USA's borders, and as soon as the purge is initiated, and all law enforcement suspended, they Beeline it for the country?" Hell, you have a 12 hour window of a guaranteed NO LAW ENFORCEMENT standing in the way of your "occupy USA" movement.

youji itami:
A film is only a failure if it doesn't make money that's why films that make money even if critically savaged still get sequels.

A critical flop or failure is a thing. Saying it isn't doesn't change that.

I'm excited. Purge 2 is pretty much exactly what I wanted Purge 1 to be. Albeit with a little tweaking.

For example, the multiple 'main character' thing is something I really wanted. I would have like have one character/group of "good guys" who are just regular people who have gotten caught in the Purge and are just trying to survive. The other character/group being crazed gun slinging murderers who just want to kill as many people as they can. I imagined their story-lines overlapping at times and the "bad guys" becoming sort of obsessed with killing the other main characters. Going as far as murdering other Purge participants for interfering in their hunt. It all playing out as a messed up game of cat & mouse.

Cool exactly what I needed to hear. This one was completely off my radar because the 1st one was such a lame duck.

So it's a Punisher movie? Color me interested.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait: Bob LIKES this one? This one's political message is so bang-you-over-the-head obvious, it's insulting to the audience's intelligence. I thought Bob hated that about the last one. I did like calling Frank "Crossbones from CA: Winter Soldier" Grillo's character The Punisher.

InsanityRequiem:
During your list of what people would more realistically do during a "Purge" type situation, all that came into my mind was being a nuclear terrorist. Create, distribute, and detonate nuclear explosives across a section of the country. Would create a definite dichotomy in how people would react. "Support the Purge? You support thermonuclear terrorism." "Enforce laws during the Purge? It's no longer the Purge." And add in all the international hate from it, the "New Founding Fathers of America" would be in big shit because of it. :D Of course it wouldn't happen.

But yeah, the annoyingly huge marketing showed me that P:A was definitely going to be better than the original. But still... Practically a commercial for P:A every minute. Was annoying.

A couple of nights ago, my brother & I were watching TV, and there were 3 ads for Purge:Anarchy in the same commercial break. I was like, "Jaysus! We get it! That still won't let me forget that the last one was made of arse!" There comes a point in movie advertising where the more they plug it, the less inclined you are to see it. It becomes "See our movie! See our movie! See our mo-" [BANG!]

RA92:

TheMemoman:
I liked Snowpiercer, but I don't get all the love for it. It was predictable, cheesy, cartoonish and it really had no subtlety whatsoever. Look at Tilda Swinton's character in Snowpiercer for subtlety.

It's a cool idea, but other than the feeding kart, the New Year indicator and the school kart, it's pretty much a by the numbers sci-fi B-movie.

I love Snowpiercer because it had a quite a lot of black humour and surrealism mixed into it. Most movies these days tend to play their post-apocalyptic worlds straight, grim and gritty, and I really miss the absurdist worlds portrayed in, say, Terry Gilliam's Brazil or Total Recall.

I regret to say I never heard of Snowpiercer before now. I, too, miss absurd cartoonish versions of future dystopias. This one mixed absurd with gritty in a way that makes the resulting flavor taste worse than either of its ingredients.

Really enjoyed the laundry list of crimes at the beginning of the review and -- Lord forgive me -- I laughed out loud at the image used for, "consensual incest."

The Purge seems to be a simplified variation of A Clockwork Orange. The similarities are there: a dystopia where gangs with unique costumes/masks being free to roam free and cause chaos by night. A Clockwork Orange (both the book and the film)is a much better satire than The Purge. I'm surprised that Bob didn't see the similarities.

But wouldn't people be way too afraid to do anything on that laundry list of crime due to the fact that they can be killed and no one can do anything about it if they step outside?

Also I want to see a dark comedy movie about the janitors and street cleaners that have to do their job the day after the purge.

Abyss:
The Purge seems to be a simplified variation of A Clockwork Orange. The similarities are there: a dystopia where gangs with unique costumes/masks being free to roam free and cause chaos by night. A Clockwork Orange (both the book and the film)is a much better satire than The Purge. I'm surprised that Bob didn't see the similarities.

Not really, the similarities are either very superficial (evil people dressing up in weird clothes) or so incredibly broad they will apply to quite a lot of movies (breakdown of society). The stuff they are satirizing seems to be mostly different.

I could see them justifying the lack of other crimes by claiming that practically everybody has someone they'd secretly like to kill if they had the means and knew they would get away with it, and anyone who doesn't is too scared for their own life to leave their barricaded homes even if they had free reign to do whatever they pleased. A bit cynical, maybe, but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

LobsterFeng:
I want to see a dark comedy movie about the janitors and street cleaners that have to do their job the day after the purge.

This concerns me as well, and I wonder if it's touched on in the movie:

To paraphrase Tyler Durden:

"the people you're after are the people you depend on. We take out your trash, we cook your meals...we guard you while you sleep."

If the true point of the Purge is to eliminate all of the poor people from society while the rich prosper, what happens if the rich are successful and they've killed off all of the poor people ie the ones that service their cars, work in their factories, make their clothes, and farm their food? It can be argued that the rich need the poor a lot more than the poor need the rich.

The plan is to cement the stranglehold of the rich?

That's a terrible plan, if the purge existed you wouldn't be able to move outside for all the looters busy stealing from those rich people.

Huh, I wasn't originally planning on seeing the film, but the actor who plays "the Punisher" is a new darkhorse favorite of mine recently (he did well in Cap 2 and Warrior).

I had a decent enough time with Snowpiercer...even if I pretty much called everything before it happened. Dunno that I have any desire to watch it again, however. As such, saying this Anarchy film isn't as good as that doesn't instill a great deal of hope.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes.

It's good to hear that this movie is working more with the premise of the original. However, a chunk of the laundry list Bob mentioned in the beginning could be explained by a combination of precedence and time. The first Purge had people who weren't sure if it was "really a thing", so they stuck to petty crimes like blatant littering, recreational drug consumption, mass streaking, and other things for the lulz. When the reports of murders/rapes/embezzlements come in and no one gets punished, the next Purge "gets real". Homes gets better security, people get self-defense/firearms training, and the "poseur" Purgers don't want to risk coming across Purging enthusiasts who're trying to fit their crime wishlist in a 12-hour window ("Graffiti? Seriously? Ugh, amateurs." *chainsaw*). With a few more Purges under their belt, people start taking pride in their "civic duty".

On that note, I like the idea of having different Purge films have different themes. Since the movies are relatively inexpensive and can more easily recoup their investments, it could expand into a multimedia franchise. Have a revenge arc for a YouTube series, political thriller for a podcast, quirky post-Purge cleanup crew as a dark comedy, and save the movies for the gritter/complicated setpiece moments (bank heist, suburban riot, gang warfare). Then again, it'd risk being oversaturated, so it'd be a balancing act.

tdylan:
If the true point of the Purge is to eliminate all of the poor people from society while the rich prosper, what happens if the rich are successful and they've killed off all of the poor people ie the ones that service their cars, work in their factories, make their clothes, and farm their food? It can be argued that the rich need the poor a lot more than the poor need the rich.

The point is not to wipe out all of the poor people, its mostly to eliminate the undesirables in society like homeless people and people on government support. Its also about keeping the poor occupied with something other than overturning the upper class, while letting the upper class do what ever they want for a day.

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