Zero Punctuation: Risen 3: Titan Lords - Pirate ArrrrRPG

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Risen 3: Titan Lords - Pirate ArrrrRPG

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews the pirate RPG Risen 3: Titan Lords.

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As a white dude with brown hair and a regional British accent, I approve of this game.

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One of your best reviews for while actually, despite never having heard of this game before I enjoyed that :-D

I think that opening segment could easily be applied to Dead Rising 2 as well. Once you reach level 19 there is no reason to run about until like level 25 when your run speed is faster than just rolling about.

Well at least it was another pirate game?... yay? Or just AssCreed IV instead.

Wait.. So what is the point of the whole undead thing then? Why make a py-rate game about the legions of the no longer living?

It's curious. To my knowledge, these are the same guys who made Gothic, right? Well, in that game, you could get the Acrobatics skill to jump further (including a roll at the end), fall deeper without hurting yourself etc.; just like the dodge roll mentioned here, it allowed you to get around a lot faster, looked utterly idiotic and was still something I would never stop doing for convenience's sake. They must love adding stuff like that, I guess.

Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Roofstone:
Wait.. So what is the point of the whole undead thing then? Why make a py-rate game about the legions of the no longer living?

Maybe because the first Pirates of the Caribbean film was a great (ly successful) film, seeing as the game industry likes to suckle at Hollywood's tactics.

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

He doesn't review RTSs (usually) because he knows that they aren't for him and any judgement he makes of them would be unfair. Ditto fighting games which he only does on rare occasions.

Well Yahtzee, at least there is no more Deep Silver games to review now. If you had another one it would become a "thing", and we don't want, do we?

I find it strange that people get mad about the lack of diversity in games that have never allowed any type of character customization and have always been narrative driven to the point of being fucking movies, like Assassin's Creed but have never even raised an eyebrow at the Risen or Gothic series. Considering how weak the narrative is in these two series, there is little reason that you should not be able to play a fucking orc, let alone a woman.

Why does Risen 3 have such a generic cover? It doesn't even look like the dude with the sword and the snake are fighting, it look's like the fella just burst into the snakes house and jumped it while it was asleep.

Yeah I remember that from the Baldur's Gate PS2 hack'n'slash. Jumping was faster than running, which made you look fucking stupid, so I ran, so my co-op partners who had no such qualms reached all the loot first. How is jumping faster than running? Like, seriously?

Anyhow, good review of a game I was never going to play.

In preparation for Divinity: Original Sin, I played Divinity 2. In Divinity 2, your main character can jump. And since they're awesome, their jump has a little flip attached to it so they can leap in and out of combat situations quickly.

...When moving forward, the jump is significantly faster than walking. So you jump EVERYWHERE.

I couldn't tell the brown-haired white boys apart in Pacific Rim either.

Playing Wind Waker right now, so I've got the 'roll everywhere' technique down.

Given that "splice" means to put two things together (precise definition may be a bit more complex), to splice a mainbrace probably means to repair it by roping a second pole to it to keep it in place. Would be my guess.

Yes, I am commenting on the joke comment at the end, what's it to you?

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Sure. When is a good RTS going to ever come out?

I recall playing Risen 1 (and I believe I have Risen 2 on Steam or GOG or something): I loved playing through. It had loads of quirks and bugs, sure, but if you could see past all that then much like Two Worlds it had a lot of love to share. The problem I had however that put me off bothering to install the 2nd iteration was the ending of Risen.

Seriously, the game spent ages building up this huge storyline, only to top it with a fairly easy boss fight and a brief end cinematic. There was no chance to return to the world to finish up side quests, and just like that my fun had come abruptly to a halt.

Thanatos2k:

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Sure. When is a good RTS going to ever come out?

Probably in 2025 when 0 ad have finished its alpha phase and moved into beta. Lord knows the AAA publishers despise the genre for some reason.

Fasckira:

Seriously, the game spent ages building up this huge storyline, only to top it with a fairly easy boss fight and a brief end cinematic. There was no chance to return to the world to finish up side quests, and just like that my fun had come abruptly to a halt.

Don't worry, Risen 3 mostly continues that tradition. The only difference is I couldn't beat the final boss at first because I'm not very good, but then I travelled again, increased my skills and got all the health buffs and then even I found it easy.

you know the ax was a pritty important weapon for pirates. Its not like everyone could afford the sword and pistol combo.

I lost it at Puh-irate. Best nautical pun I've seen in a while.

Karavision:
I find it strange that people get mad about the lack of diversity in games that have never allowed any type of character customization and have always been narrative driven to the point of being fucking movies, like Assassin's Creed but have never even raised an eyebrow at the Risen or Gothic series. Considering how weak the narrative is in these two series, there is little reason that you should not be able to play a fucking orc, let alone a woman.

In Gothic the Orcs are the enemies and in Risen there are no orcs. Also there are only Humans in the world of Risen. The only other sentient species is are the gnomes but those are treated like thieving intelligent animals most of time.
It's a world of pirates for Risen and a bloody prison for Gothic, a woman in those cases would be rape bait.

Also the main character this time isn't the mc of Risen 1 + 2 but another one. Only 2 of the islands and 1 dlc one are somewhat recycled all others are new.

For the synchro... well the german ones is good but then again this is a german developer.

Also the main antagonist this time is the titan lord of death and why he did steal the mcs soul has its reasons which are revealed near the end.

Also for the characters of your crew, one is witch doctor which wears tribal attire and bones, another an annoying would be mage, another looks either like a disinherited gent or bald emo knight depending one how far you are with the story, then there is the thieving gnome, evil ghost inquisitor and the mcs sister, also a parrot.

doesn't he mean "har har har har" at the end? xD

Roofstone:
Wait.. So what is the point of the whole undead thing then? Why make a py-rate game about the legions of the no longer living?

Everyone loves zombies, gotta stick zombies in everything.

Hell, this logic brought us zombie dildos.

JoJo:
As a white dude with brown hair and a regional British accent, I approve of this game.

That sounds a bit narcissistic. xD

;p

JoJo:

One of your best reviews for while actually, despite never having heard of this game before I enjoyed that :-D

Yeah, I saw Angry Joe playing this a while ago. Oddly enough, the game made him angry. ;p

Fun show today, Jungle King of the Monkeys. ;D

Thanatos2k:

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Sure. When is a good RTS going to ever come out?

Well, I heard good things about Dragon Commander. Though, that was more of a RTS RPG, and most of the praise was for the RPG elements.
Still sounded like a good game.

Oh god, that pun at the end! Yahtzee just HAD to go there, didn't he? Well, yes, that's his job.
This review reminded me that Risen is a series, which just goes to show the kind of impact it left on me (none). I'll have to look in the archives if he did a Risen 2 review.
I'd play a game where I became King of the Monkeys and I can lead my new minions into tree-jumping, vine-swinging, rolling-on-the-ground battle.

Evonisia:

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

He doesn't review RTSs (usually) because he knows that they aren't for him and any judgement he makes of them would be unfair. Ditto fighting games which he only does on rare occasions.

The last RTS I know he reviewed was HALO Wars, which left a foul impact on him due to a prisoner rescue mission that went belly up for a retarded reason.

PunkRex:
Why does Risen 3 have such a generic cover? It doesn't even look like the dude with the sword and the snake are fighting, it look's like the fella just burst into the snakes house and jumped it while it was asleep.

Typical Action RPG fare:
10 Bust in to someone else's turf
20 Fight and kill them for XP
30 Loot for treasure and stuff
40 GO TO 10

Imp Emissary:

JoJo:
As a white dude with brown hair and a regional British accent, I approve of this game.

That sounds a bit narcissistic. xD

;p

JoJo:

One of your best reviews for while actually, despite never having heard of this game before I enjoyed that :-D

Yeah, I saw Angry Joe playing this a while ago. Oddly enough, the game made him angry. ;p

Fun show today, Jungle King of the Monkeys. ;D

Thanatos2k:

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Sure. When is a good RTS going to ever come out?

Well, I heard good things about Dragon Commander. Though, that was more of a RTS RPG, and most of the praise was for the RPG elements.
Still sounded like a good game.

Dragon commander is more like 3 games.
The first is the one where you talk to the people, decide on politics like free health care and decide who you want to marry.
The second is like risk with building troops and buildings on a strategic map and shoving them around to conquer more lands.
And the third is like the old game Z or maybe a moba where you have to conquer buildings by sending troops there and used them to build troops to counter your enemy.

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

Didn't he do the one Halo RTS game?

I really liked Risen 2 and I'm currently playing through Risen 1 and enjoying it. So far Risen 3 doesn't seem very appealing. I'll keep an eye out for more reviews though.

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

He did a review for Halo Wars, which is an RTS for the Xbox 360. He said in that review that he doesn't like the genre.

Ugh, another one.
I don't really have a problem with reviewers not liking the risen games, how few of them actually seemed to pay attention to the game.
I post this out of general exhaustion from risen reviews, believe it or not Yathzee's was actually one of the better ones.

1. Combat. Yes Enemies can stunlock you somewhat and most animal enemies hit faster than your character. But that's all core part of the combat. All Enemies have very distinct attack patterns. Exspecially animals always have the same rythm of attack. The challenge of the combat lies in figuring these distinct rythms out and using that knowledge to block when necessary, dodge when necessary and attack when there's an opening. Once you get this, it takes only a short while to figure out attack patterns and have fun with the combat. It was exspecially aggravating to see AngryJoes video on Risen, since it was obvious the entire time he raged about the combat that he had no idea what he was doing and was getting aggressive because buttonmashing wasn't working.

2. Recycling. 2 isles and one dlc island are recycled from Risen 2. Both of these island play a very minor part in the game and you will spent very little time there. Additionally both island were heavily redesigned with more than half of the island being completely different.

3. Theme. The Theme is not so much pirates as it is pirates coupled with medieval, if that wasn't obvious from the cover. This comes from the main story being the fight against the titan of death in a really medieval kind of way. Additionally severall of the islands are designed to be more medieval islands, than tropical pirate islands.

Overall i can understand when people don't like the Risen games. They are games that have a very specific target audience and are not for everyone. I am making this post because i am pretty tired of people hating on the games for stupid reasons. There are very legitimate reasons to dislike the games, but i only keep hearing stupid ones.

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That image was strangely hilarious to me for some reason.

TheArcaneThinker:
Will he ever play a RTS ? at least for a change ?

This is from his Shadow of the Colossus review:

"I've got nothing against real time strategy, except that anyone who plays them is obviously a massive coward, content to order soldiers to their deaths in fiery shootouts and all taking place in the far end of a telescope (...) strategy is a genre I've never gotten into"

Zombie Badger:
I couldn't tell the brown-haired white boys apart in Pacific Rim either.

There's a blond guy, a black guy, a Japanese girl, three Chinese twins, two blond Russians, two brunette scientists and Ron Perlman... what brown-haired white boy?

As a core fan of the devs for about 15 years, I have played Risen 3 a little, but not much since, yes, it feels kind of bland so far.
The best games these guys did were Gothic 1 and 2 and Risen 1.
Especially the former ones need to be remastered because of near unplayability at this point. Still my favourite RPGs of all time.
Good, original Setting, awesome Charakters and hell of a lot of love for the world.
That is the devs core problem anyway. They make awesome worlds to play in. They are beautiful, Gothic was the first RPG, I think, with day/night routines of NPCs, the just feel incredibly alive. But they need to iron out some game design kinks and hire a few better writers for the story arc.

Again, Please remaster Gothic 1 and 2, yes?

Zombie Badger:
I couldn't tell the brown-haired white boys apart in Pacific Rim either.

Well, one had an Australian accent and the other one didn't. Pretty simple stuff.

Roofstone:
Wait.. So what is the point of the whole undead thing then? Why make a py-rate game about the legions of the no longer living?

Well, Dark Souls made a tidy bit of dosh. A producer-parrot must've kept an ear to the ground, heard an interesting blurb and chirped it 'til sundown.

Parrots are vital company and emergency rations on any proper py-rate shippe (O-aar!), but they shouldn't be the skipper.

"Zombies! Popular! Market value market value zombies!"

"We be headin' rite for tha cliffs, cap'n! Whaddywe do?!"

"Twitter TWITTER like tweet!"

Ah the risen games, I played a bit of risen one and once you get into it it is a delightful game. Yeah it not perfect but hey it is fun.

I haven't played 2 and, eh yeah heard not to much good stuff I own it on steam so can try it. Wasn't to expensive.

And number 3, well it looks kinda nice. I know that is the big thing, things can look nice but play rotten. So I have to really wait a while still before I jump that ship. But it draws me.

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