The Walking Dead "Strangers" - Feeding The Hand That Bites You

The Walking Dead "Strangers" - Feeding The Hand That Bites You

The show gets even grislier and the metaphors get even more heavy-handed as The Walking Dead delivers another solid hour of apocalypse porn. But warning: people are starting to be stupid again. Obviously, heavy spoilers people.

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Yeah I do agreed that the show got some kind of a quota to keep an amount of black characters in the show. T Dog got replaced by that black inmate but then Tyreese and Sasha arrived and that inmate was killed of.

Also didn't Rick and co had guns with them when they went to the basement to fight the walkers? They lost abit of supplies on the shelves (the water was way to muddy to be picked underwater) to fight them hand to hand as oppose to shooting them from above at the expense of the bullets.

Oh I do loved Carl speech about coming from all of it unchange (not loose sight of thier humanity). I kind of find it ironic since that was Rick was at the start but he did start to decline but then trying to maintain it, I guess the cannibals ordeal set him off for everybody for themselves again and the fact that Carl was somewhat still aggressive during the prison season (he rather shoot walkers than to played with toys or read a book).

Lastly really? They had to used the most cliche name for the priest with Gabriel? Still I am having some doubt he will be killed off so soon when they potray him as the most pacifist character in the show. Too bag the Governor killed Hershel since he would of gotten along nicely with him!

One last thing, at the moment I am torn at who is the most hateful villains in the Walking Dead so far, the Governor or Gareth and co? I do kind of wish that Rick did went back to killed them all but it make sense to not to do it (they barely got out of them by their teeth and it was crawling with Walkers to ensure one mind that they were eaten for sure which was false).

Only realy stupid thing in that episode was, that they did not immediately suspected crazy cannibals lurking in the woods. Bob walked of alone tho shoot himself, thats not stupid thats how you do it.

I can't believe the whole group agreed that taking Dr. Mullet to DC was a rational thing to do. Does nobody listen to that guy?

El Comandante:
Only realy stupid thing in that episode was, that they did not immediately suspected crazy cannibals lurking in the woods.

Yea, they just destroyed a cannibal compound, didn't stick around to finish them off, and now they're being stalked in the woods. That should have raised all sorts of alarms for the group.

Carol's got the right idea in leaving those dumbasses behind.

These seasons get better and better. Love this one so far. I was going to wait to the season break to watch the first half, but I just couldn't wait with how awesome everyone said it was.

Also, for everyone saying they should have suspected cannibals in the night. Daryl went the next morning and searched for tracks or proof they were being followed. He could find no trace of anyone having been there. Rick and him kept it on the DL so know one got scared.

Also, Bob was clearly bit by that zombie. It is 100% identical to what happened to Dale in the comic. It could have only been more perfect if he had the same reaction Dale did.

Scarim Coral:
Yeah I do agreed that the show got some kind of a quota to keep an amount of black characters in the show. T Dog got replaced by that black inmate but then Tyreese and Sasha arrived and that inmate was killed of.

Also didn't Rick and co had guns with them when they went to the basement to fight the walkers? They lost abit of supplies on the shelves (the water was way to muddy to be picked underwater) to fight them hand to hand as oppose to shooting them from above at the expense of the bullets.

See, as much as I love this show and the comics, I was immediately upset when they decided to dive down into the waterlogged pit to deal with the zombies within. There were a lot of randomly scattered items in that building, and the crew have already shown themselves very resourceful at fashioning weapons out of nothing. When I saw them standing over that pit, the first thought that came to my mind was "fashion a spear/knife on a pole, attract the zombies to the hole with noise and spear their brains one by one." Even if you don't want to use bullets for fear of attracting more hidden dangers/wasting ammo, there were far safer ways to deal with that pool o' zombies than diving into murky water.

I'm starting to feel like the black character quota has become a running gag. It would be funny if it weren't so predictable now. Don't forget that we have one more who is wandering their way (Morgan), which means Gabriel, Tyreese and Sasha may all have to draw straws pretty soon.

You know what would have been a nice change? Tyrese sparing cabin-guy, and no negative repercussions coming from it. Either leave it up in the air, or otherwise express that that guy lived and went far far away. Occaisonally give the people reluctant to rape and murder a bone for being decent people, instead of punishing everyone with a scrap of humanity left.

To stick with the Christian metaphors, let's just say that I think that Gabriel was a good little shepherd and he got himself a good deal out of selling his livestock.

But yeah, Tyrese's and Carol's stupidity of leaving the Baseball-Cap-Cannibal alive was pretty silly. Other than that I'm really enjoying S05 so far.

And speaking of black characters, when Daryl first thought someone was watching them I was watching of that newly introduced guy from the end of the first episode. I wonder what's up with that guy.

The only thing I understand in this ep, was if Bob was actually bit, shouldn't he be already pretty close to turning?

Also, would a cannibal still want to eat someone that's already been chomped on? I mean...zombie cooties. Ew.

Had a thought that would be quite hilarious (not that it will happen) that the cannibals inadvertently save his life by cutting off and eating the infected leg. *shrug* guess all will be revealed.

Gabriel is latino, is he not? Personally I found him to be very interesting (an unarmed priest in a zombie apocalypse, like how even?) and had my eyebrows raised in sceptical disbelief as soon as they showed him sitting on that (so awfully fake-looking) boulder surrounded by zombies. I'm eager to see what happens to the group next week, hopefully no stupid shenanigans.

mistwolf:
You know what would have been a nice change? Tyrese sparing cabin-guy, and no negative repercussions coming from it. Either leave it up in the air, or otherwise express that that guy lived and went far far away. Occaisonally give the people reluctant to rape and murder a bone for being decent people, instead of punishing everyone with a scrap of humanity left.

I don't disagree with you, my criticism was based on the show's established universe rules. Also, I think we can consider a known cannibal looking forward to stealing a hat from a kid he's going to murder different from other people who might deserve forgiveness and mercy.

Cowabungaa:
To stick with the Christian metaphors, let's just say that I think that Gabriel was a good little shepherd and he got himself a good deal out of selling his livestock.

But yeah, Tyrese's and Carol's stupidity of leaving the Baseball-Cap-Cannibal alive was pretty silly. Other than that I'm really enjoying S05 so far.

And speaking of black characters, when Daryl first thought someone was watching them I was watching of that newly introduced guy from the end of the first episode. I wonder what's up with that guy.

He's not new, that's Morgan, the first survivor Rick met back in Season (and issue) one, last seen living in a booby-trapped small town.

I can see it now they got back from their successful raid and near death at the hands of pruny zombies and to celebrate Gabriel decided to hand round the wine and told everone to get legless... some folk just take things too far.

I am loving this Seasons so far and these cannibals are looking like they could be some serious threat, you know the kind of threat a guy with a Tank or a town of armed nutters could pose only for them to fail hard.

One of the things that bothered me about this episode on a superficial level is that Daryl and Carol decided to go follow the car that supposedly has Beth.

. . . Nobody misses Beth, why are we wasting supplies on Beth. I swear, if motives to go get Beth result in the death/turning of either one of those characters I'm gonna be... very upset as I possess no power to do anything that correctly displays what rage I'll feel.

Gabriel's kind of "eh", I haven't read the comics so I'm not entirely sure what he's about but I like how honest Rick is nowadays "if you're hiding something that can hurt someone, I'mma kill you." I think Carl's getting better, too and I like the metaphor with Michonne's sword

mistwolf:
You know what would have been a nice change? Tyrese sparing cabin-guy, and no negative repercussions coming from it. Either leave it up in the air, or otherwise express that that guy lived and went far far away. Occaisonally give the people reluctant to rape and murder a bone for being decent people, instead of punishing everyone with a scrap of humanity left.

I can definitely agree with this sentiment. I read the comics for a while but stopped because it constantly felt like a downward spiral from one horrible situation to an even worse situation. Anyone who tried to have even one human moment was destined for death/some soul-shattering reality check. It was annoying and I could see it coming from miles away.

LadyMint:

mistwolf:
You know what would have been a nice change? Tyrese sparing cabin-guy, and no negative repercussions coming from it. Either leave it up in the air, or otherwise express that that guy lived and went far far away. Occaisonally give the people reluctant to rape and murder a bone for being decent people, instead of punishing everyone with a scrap of humanity left.

I can definitely agree with this sentiment. I read the comics for a while but stopped because it constantly felt like a downward spiral from one horrible situation to an even worse situation. Anyone who tried to have even one human moment was destined for death/some soul-shattering reality check. It was annoying and I could see it coming from miles away.

One of the things that's always bugged me about the Walking Dead-verse - and I realize this is when people angrily remind me THAT ISN'T THE POINT OF THE SERIES - is how much the total collapse of civilization doesn't make any sense at all. There's apparently a two month, at most, gap between rick entering a coma and the whole world going to shit, and never even so much as a throwaway line explaining just how everything went completely collapsey so quickly.

I mention this because it connects in my mind to the utter lack of humanity exhibited by literally everyone the survivors come in contact with. Much like how we're just supposed to accept that the United States, which has weathered some pretty major disastrous turns of events in more than 200 years, would completely fall apart, we're also just supposed to agree that literally everyone would become a pedo/cannibal within a year.

I mean, get that tough times can bring out people's inner monsters. But I also know that history is replete with examples of people in situations as bad as this one (minus living corpses of course) who didn't turn into rape gang cannibal fascists. I think we have to just chalk it up to Kirkman's rather dour view of people, and his discomforting political bent. His series, so I'll let him have that. But man it gets... old.

All of that said, once you've established the rules of a universe, having characters consistently fail to grasp those rules while somehow surviving is infuriating.

RossaLincoln:

One of the things that's always bugged me about the Walking Dead-verse - and I realize this is when people angrily remind me THAT ISN'T THE POINT OF THE SERIES - is how much the total collapse of civilization doesn't make any sense at all. There's apparently a two month, at most, gap between rick entering a coma and the whole world going to shit, and never even so much as a throwaway line explaining just how everything went completely collapsey so quickly.

I mention this because it connects in my mind to the utter lack of humanity exhibited by literally everyone the survivors come in contact with. Much like how we're just supposed to accept that the United States, which has weathered some pretty major disastrous turns of events in more than 200 years, would completely fall apart, we're also just supposed to agree that literally everyone would become a pedo/cannibal within a year.

I mean, get that tough times can bring out people's inner monsters. But I also know that history is replete with examples of people in situations as bad as this one (minus living corpses of course) who didn't turn into rape gang cannibal fascists. I think we have to just chalk it up to Kirkman's rather dour view of people, and his discomforting political bent. His series, so I'll let him have that. But man it gets... old.

All of that said, once you've established the rules of a universe, having characters consistently fail to grasp those rules while somehow surviving is infuriating.

No, I certainly agree with you there. Human beings formed all the different cities we have now because more people were willing to function in a communal, trade-based society than those that preferred violent raiding, looting and nomadic living to make ends meet. This is a fantasy world, and the main thing I'm learning from it is that Rick and his crew are nothing but bad luck to everyone else. Either they're going to run into people at their worst, or anyone with a shred of humanity that crosses their path is going to die horribly.

RossaLincoln:

Cowabungaa:
To stick with the Christian metaphors, let's just say that I think that Gabriel was a good little shepherd and he got himself a good deal out of selling his livestock.

But yeah, Tyrese's and Carol's stupidity of leaving the Baseball-Cap-Cannibal alive was pretty silly. Other than that I'm really enjoying S05 so far.

And speaking of black characters, when Daryl first thought someone was watching them I was watching of that newly introduced guy from the end of the first episode. I wonder what's up with that guy.

He's not new, that's Morgan, the first survivor Rick met back in Season (and issue) one, last seen living in a booby-trapped small town.

My face when I read that:

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Damn dude, that's awesome. Completely forgot about that guy.

People were surprised that Tyrese didn't kill baseball-cap cannibal? Huh. It seemed painfully obvious that the dealing with the moral dilemma of killing non-walkers was gonna be the focus of his development this season.

But yeah, I hate what's happening with Bob, I get that it had to happen to SOMEONE, since the guy it happened to in the comics died waaaay back when, but I really liked Bob.

My hatred of the terminus group remains... pity they'll probably survive to the end of the season... though at least Karma's a bitch.

Watching an episode that was 80% filler basically reminded me what I always forget about the old episodes/seasons. Just when the plot seemingly gives us some actual direction(in this case take the guy to washington), we wind up in a plot cul-de-sac that's going to do nothing but burn through some episodes and delay group's progression. I'm worried this is going to be like that "search for sophia" season all over again. I'm going to keep watching despite knowing this current arc isn't really going to go anywhere. Sometimes I start to wonder why I care anymore.

also it is amazing, but they somehow found a character even more worthless than early seasons Carl in that preacher.

Quick correction: Gabriel isn't a Catholic priest, he's an Episcopalian priest. Sure, the line between Catholicism and Anglicanism/Episcopalianism is pretty thin all things considered, but they're not the same thing.

Gareth has a date with a machete with a red handle. It can't come soon enough.

"It would appear he was bitten and is preparing to die"

Ah... really? That would explain it. But since they are now no longer ultra stupid as a group, why did they believe him on his word that he'd NOT been bitten? It takes like 30 seconds to do, and HE'd probally want to know most of all, along with his GF... :\

 

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