Escape to the Movies: Blackhat - Haxxor

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Blackhat - Haxxor

Almost as bad as the hacker craze of films from a few years back.

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I never saw either Hackers or the Net.

Maybe I should pick those up and see what they look like today.

Can't say I expected anything otherwise.

ouch, not one of Mann's best. Whatever, I can take a blemish or two. Still need to watch Mohicans

If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

I had no idea why, I just had this feeling that this movie was gonna be shit. Looking at Rotten Tomatoes, it looks like I was right.

Scow2:
If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

Oh no... you brought up GAMERGATE and 8chan, bob! Have you realized what a Pandora's Box you've opened in the comments section?!

So it is what I expected from a movie about hacking.

I do appreciate not having you insert the trailer to pad out the video, I rather have a four minute review then a six minute because I am stuck watching the trailer of a movie again.

It's a shame that January is like a traditional crappy movies month (or in England, Oscar bait fortnight followed by crappy movies month), especially given that enough crap comes out in the later months.

I knew this movie would be shit from the first trailer I saw... then I saw Michael Mann's name at the end.

Heat is my all time favorite movie... so... why would he bother with this shit?!?!? T^T

"Doxxing and harrassment are the real dangers of the net."

This was just said by an adult human in the year 2015.

Burnouts3s3:
I never saw either Hackers or the Net.

Maybe I should pick those up and see what they look like today.

Hackers is amazing and has a lot of great references to everything outside of their actual computer use (rainbow books, pulse dialing, social engineering, virus/exploit references, password selection...). Think of the screensaver hacking as more of a metaphor for what's going on in their head and it's palatable enough. :)

Fantastic soundtrack as well.

(tangental, but Steins;Gate has the most realistic hacker I've ever seen on a show)

Uhh...'hat'-designated hackers don't dox or swat people.

Whitehats work with firms as mercenaries to identify and fix flaws.
Blackhats create/find flaws in the digital mainframes of firms and sell off that information to the highest bidder(or they expose those flaws as an anti-establishment statement, see: Wikileaks)
Greyhats are a mix of both: they create flaws but they then tell the firm in question that the flaw was 'always present in the code' and they get paid for resolving it.

It seems that Bob shouldn't be one to talk of Mann's obliviousness when it comes to the dynamics of hacking, since what he sees as 'srs bsns' is stuff that is mostly done by script kiddies.

As a network engineer I can never watch these NET movies. They're just flush with so many technological inaccuracies and nonsense that I cringe every time anyone speaks.

It was nice to see Bob sneak in another comment with his childish head in the sand stance on the feminist frequency issue.

Bob, let's be honest here. We see the ads. Tell us what you REALLY thought about the movie.

Personally, I'd rather see a movie about Thor fighting cyber criminals . . . nevermind. That's Age of Ultron.

Amaror:

Scow2:
If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

Considering people are using doxxes to call in swattings and, going so far as to make detailed calls claiming someone has weapons, bombs, is depressed and likely to kill people in order to ensure the cops fingers are on the triggers, yeah, its f***ing dangerous. the only reason (so far) there haven't been fatalities is that Doxxed individuals have had the forethought to contact and warn their local police.

josh4president:
"Doxxing and harrassment are the real dangers of the net."
This was just said by an adult human in the year 2015.

I've been taking everything Bob says with a grain of salt ever since gamergate started, but this video is basically a tablespoon of it, and the results are about as anyone would expect.

"If the Oscars were any whiter, they'd be transparent."

So, wait. We're supposed to judge them on their skin color first, and then apparent talent second? Because there was this one time someone said "I have a dream ..... where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" or in this case the character of their character. I guess Bob doesn't care about that or something.

Amaror:

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

The vibe I got was 'Bob has just realised 8chan exists'.

ForumSafari:

Amaror:

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

The vibe I got was 'Bob has just realised 8chan exists'.

I would have gotten that vibe aswell if I didn't know of his twitter acc xD.

It's impossible to have seen it once and not believe he actively follows everything posted on those sites just to get angry at it.

A mentioning of 8Chan and a Gamergate reference.

Bob, are you trying to poke the hornet's nest again?

Omnicide:
So, wait. We're supposed to judge them on their skin color first, and then apparent talent second? Because there was this one time someone said "I have a dream ..... where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" or in this case the character of their character. I guess Bob doesn't care about that or something.

It has more to do with how the actors of Selma, particularly Oyelowo, who was great, but also a variety of others, were egregiously snubbed. Ava Duvernay was also snubbed for director in favor of the director from Birdman. Out of the entire Oscar nominations, there's not a single acting nomination from Selma, and that's pretty embarrassing seeing as there were A LOT of great acting performances.

marioandsonic:
A mentioning of 8Chan and a Gamergate reference.

Bob, are you trying to poke the hornet's nest again?

But it's so fun! The buzzing is such a nice background noise to the droning of the sales meeting down the hall...

Bob, glad to see call the harassment of female developers and critics of Gamergate exactly what it is. It's terrorism. It's a loaded word, but as the definition of an act that inspires fear and intimidation to achieve a goal, it fits it to tee. Just because there are worse acts of terror, doesn't negate that is exactly what cowards hiding behind anonymity are doing every day in the name of their socio-political agenda. To say otherwise, is disingenuous at best, and at worst, belongs to someone who lacks the conscious or the personal ethics to realize that threatening someone to behave in a manner you wish to see is not just wrong, it's malicious.
Oh, by the way, in case someone decides to bring up that Gamergate supporters get harassed: one, I doubt it's at the same scale and frequency, and two, freely supporting a group that engages in such behavior makes you a hypocrite when you complain those actions have been reciprocated.

hentropy:

Omnicide:
So, wait. We're supposed to judge them on their skin color first, and then apparent talent second? Because there was this one time someone said "I have a dream ..... where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" or in this case the character of their character. I guess Bob doesn't care about that or something.

It has more to do with how the actors of Selma, particularly Oyelowo, who was great, but also a variety of others, were egregiously snubbed. Ava Duvernay was also snubbed for director in favor of the director from Birdman. Out of the entire Oscar nominations, there's not a single acting nomination from Selma, and that's pretty embarrassing seeing as there were A LOT of great acting performances.

"Great Performances" is subjective, and people who "deserve" recognition always get snubbed. What Bob is implying at the end of the video is simply ridiculous. The person you quoted was spot on. Bob posting that is just as racist as it would be to ACTUALLY snub actors because they were minorities. "Whoa there academy, we need at least 5 black people and 7 women in non gender specific nominations, this thing is about diversity, not our OPINION of quality."

Of course the awards shows are biased, but not in the way he is implying...

josh4president:
"Doxxing and harrassment are the real dangers of the net."

This was just said by an adult human in the year 2015.

Well, true.

The real danger of the net is how the abuse of systems by the poorly-socialized and the sociopathic can endanger other people. It's just, you know, so far that's mostly come across via assholes sending SWAT teams over to innocent people because they said something mean about them on a forum. Often while protesting they're only doing it because those people keep saying they're assholes who send SWAT teams to attack innocent people with a complete lack of irony.

Huh and on tech site's and forums they are praising the realism.

China? Again? I get that they give money/support to promote their country and all that, but every time I see one of those overextended landscape thing that pretty much yell "LOOK LOOK CHINA, LOOK AT IT, THEY GAVE US MONEY LOOK AT IT" they become more and more annoying.

I really doubt I'll watch this one, but still.

theApoc:
"Great Performances" is subjective, and people who "deserve" recognition always get snubbed. What Bob is implying at the end of the video is simply ridiculous. The person you quoted was spot on. Bob posting that is just as racist as it would be to ACTUALLY snub actors because they were minorities. "Whoa there academy, we need at least 5 black people and 7 women in non gender specific nominations, this thing is about diversity, not our OPINION of quality."

Of course the awards shows are biased, but not in the way he is implying...

The issue is that the Academy doesn't really all come together and decide who will be nominated for what, it's all a secret ballot. It's also worth noting that many (as in, the average) of the people in the Academy are super duper old. So is it totally out of the question that they were snubbed not having anything to do with quality? There are very few people out there with the courage/skill to actually PLAY Martin Luther King on screen.

Speaking only for myself, no one involved with the "Birdman" production should even be allowed in the theater on Oscar night, but I would have added another slot for the nominations to get Oyelowo in the picture. But the fact that Hollywood projects itself as being progressive and then snubs big time on a black actor in favor of a bunch of big, sellable names is pretty telling. Most every review of Selma (pretty much all reviews of the movie being overwhelmingly positive), praised the acting performance of Oyelowo and the directorial performance of DuVernay, it would be a pretty big fucking snub regardless of their color and the fact that they're not even being considered is pretty shitty, in my view. The Hollywood class loves to pretend like it's the most special liberal snowflakes, so progressive and ahead of its time, but they still couldn't help but slop over Michael fucking Keaton's knob, even if it meant completely snubbing one of the most important movies of our time.

Amaror:

Scow2:
If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

Yeah that section of the video was just stupid. I get that MovieBob really hates 8chan, but he cannot seriously think that false phone calls and a few angry post on a forum somewhere are as far as cyberterrorism could possibly go for anyone.

Agreed

Modern cyber-terrorism and whatnot is likely more akin to the stuff seen in Die Hard 4... though likely a good deal less hammy.

Stealing industrial/corporate trade secrets via hacking, credit card numbers and draining bank accounts, identity theft and fraud that way around...

There are many more ways other than doxxing and empty threats that people on the internet can do harm.

Scow2:
If you think 'doxxing' and harrassment are the 'real' terrors of the net, you don't know ANYTHING about what a real threat on the net is.

It's like saying the real horror of war is the possibility having to wear one set of underwear for a month.

Oh sure. Because we all know that publishing someone's personal information on a forum filled with bitter, angry, and volatile hooligans is not dangerous at all. Also I see you conveniently left out the big one. SWATing is a very real danger on the net. One of these days someone will get someone killed doing that. An itchy trigger finger cop or someone who doesn't exactly do well with authority. One of those will happen and someone will pay the price. That's a more dangerous and palpable AND CONSTANT threat on the web today than the goons from Lizard Squad messing with Sony and Microsoft.

I think it's pretty funny that Blackhat advertising is splashed all over the Escapist and Bob basically gave this movie a negative review. Way to stick to your journalistic integrity Bob.

Side note: I don't think Bob knew that Blackhat would be sponsoring the Escapist at the time he wrote the review. Really, doesn't matter either other way.

hentropy:
It's also worth noting that many (as in, the average) of the people in the Academy are super duper old. So is it totally out of the question that they were snubbed not having anything to do with quality?

Plus, if we want to look at numbers, only twenty out of four hundred twenty seven nominees for the best actor award were black. That's 5%.

While i agree that Bob can draw rather, alarmist conclusions out of many things; this one has numbers to back it up.

The China pandering is scary as fuck. They are not allowed to say bad things about the Chinese government. All of these films that paint the Chinese government in a positive light to make a buck are bad news. I hope this trend dies, it won't cause money talks.

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