8 Examples of DLC that Doesn't Suck

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FYI all, this is something a little new: A Community Gallery of the Day. I saw a thread in Gaming Discussion about all-time favorite DLCs, and I used those suggestions to make up this gallery. I'll be looking for more of these in coming weeks, so stay tuned.

Here's the original thread that spawned the idea:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.869614-Your-all-time-favorite-DLC

I'd say that Lonesome Road is slightly better due to the beefier story(it deconstructs RPG story-telling in a rather compelling manner) since Old World Blues is a bit tedious, but otherwise, it's a pretty damn fine list.

Fall of The Samurai is a pretty good expand-alone to Shogun 2, showing an otherwise unexplored setting in video-games with compelling changes to Shogun 2 mechanics to boot.

Brave New World and Gods & Kings were also pretty sizeable expansions(and if we're talkin' Civ, then Beyond The Sword is a must), though I do agree that Within added much needed variety to the base game, whereas vanilla Civ V wasn't as limited as Enemy Unkown was on release.

Pretty good list, all things considered :P

Sigmund Av Volsung:

Brave New World and Gods & Kings were also pretty sizeable expansions(and if we're talkin' Civ, then Beyond The Sword is a must), though I do agree that Within added much needed variety to the base game, whereas vanilla Civ V wasn't as limited as Enemy Unkown was on release.

Pretty good list, all things considered :P

Man, Brave New World made Civ 5 SOOOOO much better. It completely changed how I looked at that game.

Oh no. No mention of the new COD zombies that used to come with the game but now costs 12 as DLC??

Joking aside, you have just reminded me of that Bioshock Infinite extra. Really really has been on my list for a while.

And that New vegas DLC.

And that Enemy within expansion.

...

Probably should try that Mass Effect 2 stuff also. Ok i'm a DLC-phobe...sorry! ;)

ffronw:

Sigmund Av Volsung:

Brave New World and Gods & Kings were also pretty sizeable expansions(and if we're talkin' Civ, then Beyond The Sword is a must), though I do agree that Within added much needed variety to the base game, whereas vanilla Civ V wasn't as limited as Enemy Unkown was on release.

Pretty good list, all things considered :P

Man, Brave New World made Civ 5 SOOOOO much better. It completely changed how I looked at that game.

Ditto. The trading system and the World Congress mechanics added a much required layer of depth to the game that singled it out from the others in the series as its own, to the point where people are calling Beyond Earth a re-skin of Civ V because of how much personality and intrigue it received out of it's expansions.

I'm glad Borderlands was on there. BL and BL2 are great examples of how to handle your DLC. Combined, the max cost for the campaigns is $40, and you get about as much content as a full expansion from back in the day. I finished the 4th DLC for BL, and I felt like I had finally completed my adventure after the disappointing main campaign ending. I still haven't done all the DLC for BL2, but I can tell that there is plenty to do in each of them.

Now only if TPS actually tried as hard.

If only Enemy Within was actually a DLC on Xbox, that would have been nice instead of having to buy a completely different game, still great though, and Tina's DLC was really good. You did leave out Citadel for ME3 though, while the rest of the game had it's numerous issues (Glitches, ending, crew members that weren't part of the squad, etc...) Citadel was definitely a good DLC, although it really should have been part of the main game.

jab136:
If only Enemy Within was actually a DLC on Xbox, that would have been nice instead of having to buy a completely different game

You get a way better deal with the Xbox verion then the PC one, in the Xbox you only need to buy Enemy Within (comes with Enemy Unknown included) where in the PC you have to buy both. Even if you already own Enemy Unknown for the Xbox the price for Enemy Within is still the same as the PC version so if you dont own Enemy Unknown you get a great deal with just buying Enemy Within and if you already own Enemy Unknown you dont pay more then anyone else anyway even if half of what you are buying is content you already own.

To anyone else who's probably wondering why the article claims Lair of the Shadow Broker is "widely" considered the series's best DLC, based on a thread where more people cited Citadel...

...well, you don't see (much) whining about the ending, do ya?

Ooh, I was mentioned.

Naaaaw, you shouldn't have...

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I would've had ME3's Citadel up there, but all in all, excellent list.

CutesySiren:
To anyone else who's probably wondering why the article claims Lair of the Shadow Broker is "widely" considered the series's best DLC, based on a thread where more people cited Citadel...

...well, you don't see (much) whining about the ending, do ya?

Actually, I chose the Shadow Broker over Citadel for a simple reason: I didn't like the Citadel DLC. At all.

Sure, it was a fun little lark to play through, but it was so out of place in that story. No one really believes that Shepard and his crew would stop on the way to the end of the world for a party, right?

Rather than argue all of this, I'll just link to the story that I agreed with when we wrote it. http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-controversy-the-game-front-primer/

And the ending was a disaster from the get-go.

Edit: Annnnnd I just realized I linked the wrong story above. *SIGH* THe proper link about Citadel is here: http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3s-citadel-bad-for-the-game-maybe-bad-for-the-future/

I maintain that the most impressive DLC I've ever played is The Shivering Isles for Oblivion. Disappointing that it's not mentioned here.

Laggyteabag:
Ooh, I was mentioned.

Naaaaw, you shouldn't have...

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So was I! Joyous day!

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(that's about the only 'yay' reaction gif I have on hand)

But wait, I was mentioned first, and I probably remain the only one to bring up that DLC, so I'm betterer!

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So much betterer.

ffronw:
FYI all, this is something a little new: A Community Gallery of the Day. I saw a thread in Gaming Discussion about all-time favorite DLCs, and I used those suggestions to make up this gallery. I'll be looking for more of these in coming weeks, so stay tuned.

Here's the original thread that spawned the idea:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.869614-Your-all-time-favorite-DLC

Really nice initiative there!

This is "fostering the community" and being such a participating and active part of it can only be lauded and applauded.
Though, sometimes its hard defining the line between pleasing the "echo-chamber" and stirring it up for good measure since everyone's tastes are different. ,)

I see great things in the future. Thank you.

Extragorey:
I maintain that the most impressive DLC I've ever played is The Shivering Isles for Oblivion. Disappointing that it's not mentioned here.

I have to agree with you there. Then again I also have yet to play most of the New Vegas DLC nor have I played Burial at Sea so my opinion might change if I ever bother to play any of those.

LotSB makes it but not Citadel? Madness.

The problem with Firaxis DLC is that they're sort necessary to make the game feel complete, both Civ V and XCOM felt very incomplete without there DLCs. Civ:BE suffers the same problem and practically feels like the game was gutted for the sake of selling DLC later. I'm beginning to wonder if that's Firaxis's strategy, sell an incomplete game, force users to pickup the DLC to fill in sometimes glaring holes.

That being said Tiny Tina's Assault on dragon keep was one of my favorite DLCs. It almost fell into the old category of expansion pack in my eyes.

What ? No mention of Barbarian Invasion for the original Rome : Total war ? Thats the best DLC i have seen ! Its almost big as the core game ! I digress... Great list btw .

ffronw:
FYI all, this is something a little new: A Community Gallery of the Day. I saw a thread in Gaming Discussion about all-time favorite DLCs, and I used those suggestions to make up this gallery. I'll be looking for more of these in coming weeks, so stay tuned.

Here's the original thread that spawned the idea:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.869614-Your-all-time-favorite-DLC

If these become a regular thing, can I suggest getting some badges made for these community galleries? Either for the thread creator or the users mentioned in the piece?

Zombie_Fish:

If these become a regular thing, can I suggest getting some badges made for these community galleries? Either for the thread creator or the users mentioned in the piece?

I'm already investigating the idea of a badge for folks whose threads get used. More to come on that.

Extragorey:
I maintain that the most impressive DLC I've ever played is The Shivering Isles for Oblivion. Disappointing that it's not mentioned here.

You know, I had that one on the list, but then I started arguing with myself about whether Shivering Isles was an actual DLC, or whether it was DLC's older brother, the expansion.

I actually argued myself right out of putting it on there.

Still, Shivering Isles was amazing. No argument here.

Pretty good list. I've played six of the eight (I haven't played the Borderlands or Mass Effect DLC), and most of them were good, especially Old World Blues. Really, all of the New Vegas DLC was fantastic (except for Dead Money, which was pretty meh), and I really liked how the all the DLC for that game had a continuous story running through it. Bethesda games have all had really good DLC in recent years, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Dishonored... they've come a long way since the Horse Armor days.

I've got disagree about two of the entries, though. I didn't think Knothole Island was particularly good, and wasn't long enough to merit the price. There was just nothing memorable about the place. I also thought that Bioshock Infinite: Burial as Sea was more continuity porn than it was cohesive game, and it left me extremely disappointed.

If I had to recommend things to replace them, I'd include Skyrim's "Dragonborn" DLC, and Dead Rising 3's "Super Ultra Dead Rising 3 Arcade Remix Hyper Edition EX Plus Alpha" DLC, which utterly transformed an otherwise vanilla zombie game that had some problems with tonal consistency into an explosive, balls-out over-the-top arcade homage, or maybe the "How the Saints saved Christmas" DLC for Saints Row IV.

What? Where is Oblivion's horse armor dlc? Its clearly the greatest dlc idea ever made.

*don't suck.

It isn't more than a standalone expansion, but Enemy within is too for the consoles. Far cry 3: Blood dragon?

ffronw:

You know, I had that one on the list, but then I started arguing with myself about whether Shivering Isles was an actual DLC, or whether it was DLC's older brother, the expansion.

What would you say decides the difference between DLC and an expansion pack? Is it purely the downloadable nature? Would, say, the Vietnam expansion/DLC for Bad Company 2 be considered DLC or an expansion?

Either way, that one was amazing too. I'm so sad to see it abandoned these days, despite the base game still being quite popular. I could pick up Battlefield: Vietnam but the BC2 came with awesome destruction and all kinds of modern advances I'd really miss.

Also, it's awesome to see this kind of initiative. Involving the community a bit more, I always liked seeing such initiatives over the years that I've spent here and I can only welcome more.

josemlopes:

You get a way better deal with the Xbox verion then the PC one, in the Xbox you only need to buy Enemy Within (comes with Enemy Unknown included) where in the PC you have to buy both. Even if you already own Enemy Unknown for the Xbox the price for Enemy Within is still the same as the PC version so if you dont own Enemy Unknown you get a great deal with just buying Enemy Within and if you already own Enemy Unknown you dont pay more then anyone else anyway even if half of what you are buying is content you already own.

Is this so? I was actually going to get both for the 360 but was wondering why i couldn't find the two sold as a collection.
It all makes sense now.

Xsjadoblayde:

josemlopes:

You get a way better deal with the Xbox verion then the PC one, in the Xbox you only need to buy Enemy Within (comes with Enemy Unknown included) where in the PC you have to buy both. Even if you already own Enemy Unknown for the Xbox the price for Enemy Within is still the same as the PC version so if you dont own Enemy Unknown you get a great deal with just buying Enemy Within and if you already own Enemy Unknown you dont pay more then anyone else anyway even if half of what you are buying is content you already own.

Is this so? I was actually going to get both for the 360 but was wondering why i couldn't find the two sold as a collection.
It all makes sense now.

Yup - I can confirm this. The X360 copy of Enemy Within is a self-contained package - you don't need a copy of Enemy Unknown to play it. This was annoying for those of us who picked up the original, and then they put out an expansion pack at the price of a full-game...

On PC then the expansion pack requires X:EU, but the expansion pack is priced cheaper. Also, you can get the Long War mod on PC, which revamps and adds a LOT to an already awesome game.

Honestly, I am a bit questioning the listing of Enemy Within here as it is officially called an "Expansion Pack" (and in fact needs to be purchased as its own game on the console ports), not DLC.

Xsjadoblayde:
Oh no. No mention of the new COD zombies that used to come with the game but now costs 12 as DLC??

Probably because it's a re-hash DLC, that only screams "Look, us too! We can do it, too!" that adds only one map. Now, Rezurrection for Black Ops 1, that's a good example:
5 Maps for Zombie (four reworked from WaW plus one complete new one) plus the entire soundtrack of Zombies (total of 20 songs, only excluding the three licensed ones) for the normal price... totally worth it.

I saw this this morning but I had to run to work so I didn't get a chance to comment. So here are my thoughts, because I know all of you are dying to hear them :-)

1) Never played Fable II. No opinion.

2) I was actually disappointed in The Last of Us DLC. I felt that it told the wrong story. From the start, we know what is going to happen and that Riley is doomed. It was nice seeing them bond, but I feel the flashback should have focused on what Ellie did after they got infected. I wanted to know how she handled knowing that she survived while she had to watch her friend go insane. Did she kill Riley, or did she leave her? Basically, the flashback ends right where I think it should have started. The current mission was good though, and it was nice to get the bandits and Infected to fight each other.

3) I saw this and it was almost enough to make be buy XCOM again. It sounded like they addressed my main problem with the game, which was the story. Starts off strong, but then is just sort of falls apart and I just kind of lost interest. A blast to play for sure, but I just got bored. It sounded like this expansion added in a good story, but I just couldn't bring myself to buy the game again.

4) Never played.

5) Ah, yes. I did enjoy zombies in the old West. My only issue was that I ended up with way too much ammo. When the DLC started, I had to be precise with my shots and pick my battles. I couldn't just wander into a store and buy ammo, and the undead were endless. I thought the whole game would be like that, but no. After about an hour, maybe less, I was swimming in ammo and the sense of dread went down.

6) I swear I will finish Episode 2 sometime this year! I loved the first Episode and I love II, but other games came out and I got pulled away. But I shall finish it!

7) Damn. Straight. While I prefer The Citadel myself, I am perfectly okay with this one being on the list instead. Both of those things were master strokes. And the look in Liara's eyes and the little gasp she lets out if you romanced her during that scene in your quarters...I just love it.

8) Hey, not fair! You can do two Borderlands DLC but you can't do both the Mass Effect ones? ;-) I enjoyed General Knoxx because it felt more like Borderlands 2, which is the game my friends and I started with. When we did get around to Borderlands, the game felt very quiet and very bland--until we hit this DLC. And then the glimmers of genius that created Borderlands II began to show, but I fear the DLC did not impact me the same way as it did others.
Now Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon's Keep? Oh yes. All of the yes.

Skyrim had some pretty sweet DLC with Dawnguard and Dragonborn I thought, both added some really cool new places to explore, while also trying some bolder more character focused storytelling, even if Skyrim's kinda clunky engine didn't allow for those ideas to be capitalized on fully.

I also really really dug Shivering Isles for Oblivion, that place still gives me fond memories with its awesome awesome locale and wacky characters, though again, nothing is as majestic and clunky at the same time as an Elder Scrolls game, so it is a little tough to revisit.

I just wish I had a better PC, I've played the hell out of pretty much every Bethesda game on the consoles, and tried every single one on my laptop, buuuuut the Skyrim has graphical glitches with distant mountains and the older things get the more unoptimized they are and my frame rate kinda just gets worse when I try to play Oblivion or Morrowind, with pretty annoying frame rate for the Fallout games and Skyrim as well.

I'm normally just a few FPS shy from a steady 30, even with tons of "performance" mods for the various games and it just bums me out how close and yet so far from tasting the majesty of Bethesda games with mods.

I've heard something about "overclocking" PCs? I've never fully understood the concept or how to do it. Would it be possible to squeeze 5 fps more out of those games on my laptop if I overclocked it? Would I kill my laptop if I even tried? Hopefully some fine fellow here could explain the concept a bit more to me.

Cowabungaa:

ffronw:

You know, I had that one on the list, but then I started arguing with myself about whether Shivering Isles was an actual DLC, or whether it was DLC's older brother, the expansion.

What would you say decides the difference between DLC and an expansion pack? Is it purely the downloadable nature? Would, say, the Vietnam expansion/DLC for Bad Company 2 be considered DLC or an expansion?

Honestly? I thought of BFBC2: Vietnam as an expansion, not DLC.

I think the difference for me is that an expansion is a much larger, more complete experience than DLC. Now, I know the Borderlands DLCs come close to that, but let's also remember that those were specifically called DLC at release as well.

Is there some empirical formula? Nah. It's just what felt right.

ninja51:

*snip*

I've heard something about "overclocking" PCs? I've never fully understood the concept or how to do it. Would it be possible to squeeze 5 fps more out of those games on my laptop if I overclocked it? Would I kill my laptop if I even tried? Hopefully some fine fellow here could explain the concept a bit more to me.

I'd avoid overclocking my laptop if you don't have any experience in the process.

In essence, you're basically doing one of two things:

1. Increasing clock speeds

2. Increasing power voltages

Both of these can seriously damage your hardware if something goes wrong, and in a lot of cases, void your warranty too. Now, if you can find someone who's got some experience to help, maybe try it. But I'd be really hesitant with a laptop considering that both of these options usually increase the heat generated, and laptops aren't always well-cooled.

*For more info, start up a thread in the advice forum. I'm sure some folks would be willing to throw some info your way.

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