Corporate Responsibility Kills Humor

Corporate Responsibility Kills Humor

Corporate Responsibility Kills Humor

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I can't read the last panel because the Escapist's other shit is covering it.

canadamus_prime:
I can't read the last panel because the Escapist's other shit is covering it.

Yup same here, spent a while wondering how a Mortal Kombat advertisement was the punchline. Maybe it was a joke about how Valve allows any old crap ports onto their system?

Anyhoo, just right click on comic and "open image in new tab" (chrome) "View Image" (Firefox) "Arrgle Bargle" (Internet Explorer)

canadamus_prime:
I can't read the last panel because the Escapist's other shit is covering it.

This is fixed. Apologies for the layout error.

Hah, I was actually thinking something similar. Just about every games journalist in the business was writing his articles and recording his podcasts on why Valve should get rid of this system for dozens of reasons...but then Valve pulls it before they even get a chance to publish. Ouch.

On another note, this comic should have been a column. The pictures add nothing to the joke, so instead we've got something between a written piece and a webcomic. That would also give you a chance to elaborate instead of forcing it into the confines of text bubbles. I'm mostly parroting what everyone has said these past few weeks here, but it's still true.

Its funny because most people on The Escapist can't find FFN's Snark.

....

Part of me was hoping the paid game mods thing was permanent so maybe something like GOG could come in & look metaphorically like PS4 compared to Steam's Xbox One.

Since I always complain about "too many words/pictures do not work" whenever I comment here I'll drop the "brevity is the soul of wit" thing in favour of something nicer.

Holding a nerf gun to one's own head, and the STOP BEING REASONABLE sign were decent uses of your visual medium. Try to expand on that for further success.

Well it's nice Valve decided not go along with it.
But i still have to ask, who was insane enough to actually come up with it?

The amount of IP and Copyright issues involved is staggering, even before you start going into people fraudulently uploading other peoples mods as their own.

A week, you say? Make it a month just so that we can clear all of the snark-esque bases over time!

But seriously, imagine if this only lasted for a few hours... The snark would most definitely be focused on how it should have been longer because, at that point, it would seem like they're all talking utter nonsense and shit...

I'm actually beginning to find the constant "too many words" comments to be a part of this webcomic's charm.

OT: I'm honestly glad they pulled it as quickly as it did. The precedent the community set was a good one. For the last 10 years gamers have been bending over to get gratefully reamed by greedy games publishers but for once we actually stood up to them and drew a line in the sand.

I'm just worried that they're planning on pulling a Door in the Face on us in the near future.

The good news is that Valve actually has a system in place to step in and correct egregious behavior.

The bad news is that said system apparently consists entirely of Gabe Newell.

Why not to put it in a what if scenario or an alternate universe?

PS: Great one, man!

This one had me smirk. :-)
Perhaps there's more to these commentary strips (as opposed to the parody ones), after all.

A Nerf Maverick? Get with the times, grandpa. Should have been a Hammershot, or maybe a Doublestrike if you need something concealable.

Anyhoo, yeah, this whole issue was pretty messed up. I don't think the idea of people being able to sell mods is inherently a bad one, but I do think Valve handled it quite badly. So kudos for admitting their mistake, I guess?

The Harkinator:
Since I always complain about "too many words/pictures do not work" whenever I comment here I'll drop the "brevity is the soul of wit" thing in favour of something nicer.

Holding a nerf gun to one's own head, and the STOP BEING REASONABLE sign were decent uses of your visual medium. Try to expand on that for further success.

FFN have been around for a looong time, and have been around for so long because of their clear success and large fanbase. Criticism is always nice - but I sincerely hope that you do not believe that in order for them to be successful, that your current criticism is relevant, as they have already found their success using their own unique style.

Just remember that not everyone shares the same tastes. Many of us really do enjoy textual dry-wit. Hell - look at one of the most popular web-comics out there: xkcd

Don't hold the Nerf Maverick Revolver that close to your head! The dart will jam, and the Rev-6 is the hardest gun of the N-Strike line to unjam. The clip-loading guns make it so much easier.

Sledgimus:
A Nerf Maverick? Get with the times, grandpa. Should have been a Hammershot, or maybe a Doublestrike if you need something concealable.

The mavericks kinda more iconic depending on your fandom given its (A) pretty easily modded into a steampunk themed gun for cosplay and (B) was the basis for a pretty awesome Megatron toy in 2006.

Don't think I'd go as far as saying it was an "awesome" Megatron toy. But then, Megatron never seems to get a figure as good as Prime.

GarouxBloodline:
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I'm under no illusion as to how long FFN has been going on. I know it has been around for a long time and has plenty of fans. That doesn't mean me thinking they have too much text on the panels, and make too little use of all the visual aids a comic provides, is irrelevant at all.

The Harkinator:

GarouxBloodline:
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I'm under no illusion as to how long FFN has been going on. I know it has been around for a long time and has plenty of fans. That doesn't mean me thinking they have too much text on the panels, and make too little use of all the visual aids a comic provides, is irrelevant at all.

Just keep in mind that there is a difference between constructive criticism, and imposing one's own perspective onto others. FFN have always found success by utilizing the humour seen even today in the present, as seen with this comic - you saying that they would be more successful by going an entirely different direction, leans more towards the imposing spectrum of debate.

And I reiterate: this is a popular medium of humour, that will not be for everyone. xkcd is still my go-to example as to how this humour is some of the most popular amongst the web-comic community.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion(s). Personally, I would suggest a different tact, is all, as it is a bit insulting to suggest that they change what they have been doing for years, all because a few people do not understand/appreciate textual dry-wit, and attribute said change(s) to actual success (as if they are not already successful enough).

I wonder what if they started doing this kind of thing just to bait and troll media sites?
"Here's something preposterous that you can rage and snark about"
"Just kidding! All that content you were working on is now irrelevant."

The Harkinator:
Since I always complain about "too many words/pictures do not work" whenever I comment here I'll drop the "brevity is the soul of wit" thing in favour of something nicer.

Holding a nerf gun to one's own head, and the STOP BEING REASONABLE sign were decent uses of your visual medium. Try to expand on that for further success.

FFN's first strip hit the web on 11/29/2001: http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=6 and have published hundreds of strips since.
They also have numerous collected editions of FFN you can purchase. They are already very successful.

Try doing a little research first before commenting. That's what search engines are for.

J.McMillen:

The Harkinator:
Since I always complain about "too many words/pictures do not work" whenever I comment here I'll drop the "brevity is the soul of wit" thing in favour of something nicer.

Holding a nerf gun to one's own head, and the STOP BEING REASONABLE sign were decent uses of your visual medium. Try to expand on that for further success.

FFN's first strip hit the web on 11/29/2001: http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=6 and have published hundreds of strips since.
They also have numerous collected editions of FFN you can purchase. They are already very successful.

Try doing a little research first before commenting. That's what search engines are for.

I think you quoted the wrong post...

Anyway, RE: the quality of this comic.

It could be the most-loved most-popular, most-successful webcomic this side of Penny Arcade, but if WE don't like it, shouldn't it get the heck off the site? WE'RE the audience here. WE'RE the consumer. WE bring the eyeballs, and thus, the money. Whatever fanbase they have is clearly lacking representation here. Whatever critical praise they get is meaningless because if it doesn't justify its own existence with page views, it gets canceled.

So I don't see why bringing up its legacy is relevant.

Houseman:

It could be the most-loved most-popular, most-successful webcomic this side of Penny Arcade, but if WE don't like it, shouldn't it get the heck off the site? WE'RE the audience here. WE'RE the consumer. WE bring the eyeballs, and thus, the money. Whatever fanbase they have is clearly lacking representation here. Whatever critical praise they get is meaningless because if it doesn't justify its own existence with page views, it gets canceled.

So I don't see why bringing up its legacy is relevant.

I'd have to see the page views compared to other things on the escapist before coming to a conclusion on its popularity on the site. Judging by the forum posts, the conclusion is a mixed reception, but I doubt that correlation.

I know I've been a fan of Aaron Williams since he was doing comics for Dragon Magazine, so I find it a treat for him to be featured here.

Houseman:

J.McMillen:

The Harkinator:
Since I always complain about "too many words/pictures do not work" whenever I comment here I'll drop the "brevity is the soul of wit" thing in favour of something nicer.

Holding a nerf gun to one's own head, and the STOP BEING REASONABLE sign were decent uses of your visual medium. Try to expand on that for further success.

FFN's first strip hit the web on 11/29/2001: http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=6 and have published hundreds of strips since.
They also have numerous collected editions of FFN you can purchase. They are already very successful.

Try doing a little research first before commenting. That's what search engines are for.

I think you quoted the wrong post...

Anyway, RE: the quality of this comic.

It could be the most-loved most-popular, most-successful webcomic this side of Penny Arcade, but if WE don't like it, shouldn't it get the heck off the site? WE'RE the audience here. WE'RE the consumer. WE bring the eyeballs, and thus, the money. Whatever fanbase they have is clearly lacking representation here. Whatever critical praise they get is meaningless because if it doesn't justify its own existence with page views, it gets canceled.

So I don't see why bringing up its legacy is relevant.

One should keep in mind that we are in a world made up of billions of people, which leads to International communities such as ours, to become quite diverse in our tastes. A little awareness, instead of tunnel-vision, is all that is needed in discussions such as these. A much better solution, until hard-numbers are presented, instead of presuming to speak for this collective "...we..." that you are referring to in your argumentum ad ignorantiam.

I get that the joke is that you're directly addressing your readers, but what with the wall-'o-texts it always feels like that anyway.

Can I just point something out real quick? "Brevity is the soul of wit" is an ironic quote from a character who thinks he knows something about wit even though it's abundantly clear that he's an unfunny idiot.

The Wooster:
Can I just point something out real quick? "Brevity is the soul of wit" is an ironic quote from a character who thinks he knows something about wit even though it's abundantly clear that he's an unfunny idiot.

And that makes the phrase less accurate how, exactly?

Oh, that's right. It doesn't.

The Wooster:
Can I just point something out real quick? "Brevity is the soul of wit" is an ironic quote from a character who thinks he knows something about wit even though it's abundantly clear that he's an unfunny idiot.

The line "brevity is the soul of wit" occurs in an overlong monologue. The joke is supposed to be that he should take his own advice.

Alma Mare:

The Wooster:
Can I just point something out real quick? "Brevity is the soul of wit" is an ironic quote from a character who thinks he knows something about wit even though it's abundantly clear that he's an unfunny idiot.

And that makes the phrase less accurate how, exactly?

Oh, that's right. It doesn't.

Oh boy, I have to explain context. Well, sonny, it's because the phrase is part of a monologue where the joke is how long the monologue is. It disproves itself, and the people breaking it out as if it's some profound commentary on the nature of comedy are both missing the point and inadvertently likening themselves to a character known for not being funny. Ironically, that is pretty funny.

I would say that it's more true in the case of brevity in the sense of quickness in retort rather than necessarily the length.

The sort of thing where your retort seems less cutting the longer it takes you to think of it/say it. However clever a response you manage to come up with the following night on reflection of events, it cannot be considered witty because you didn't say it at the time.

Houseman:
but if WE don't like it, shouldn't it get the heck off the site? WE'RE the audience here. WE'RE the consumer. WE bring the eyeballs, and thus, the money. Whatever fanbase they have is clearly lacking representation here. Whatever critical praise they get is meaningless because if it doesn't justify its own existence with page views, it gets canceled.

Sorry but I voted for Kodos, not you. I enjoy FFN. Which usually doesn't make me feel the urge to come here and complain about it.

The Wooster:

Alma Mare:

The Wooster:
Can I just point something out real quick? "Brevity is the soul of wit" is an ironic quote from a character who thinks he knows something about wit even though it's abundantly clear that he's an unfunny idiot.

And that makes the phrase less accurate how, exactly?

Oh, that's right. It doesn't.

Oh boy, I have to explain context. Well, sonny, it's because the phrase is part of a monologue where the joke is how long the monologue is. It disproves itself, and the people breaking it out as if it's some profound commentary on the nature of comedy are both missing the point and inadvertently likening themselves to a character known for not being funny. Ironically, that is pretty funny.

Pound on your Shakespeare all you like, "sonny". I know where the phrase comes from. No one missed the point because the point was never about Polonius, it's about a shitty comic having more words in 3 panels than the average rap song. Which defeats the purpose of a medium that is both visual and fast-paced. And the original sentence doesn't disprove itself since Polonius fails to be both witty or succint - this says more about him than the accuracy of the statement.

 

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