Judging By The Cover: Judging Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Judging Star Wars: The Force Awakens

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away...

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Best JbtC so far. A masterpiece that justifies the whole somewhat lackluster series.

Fucking amazing, sold as well.

Yeah I do agreed why that alien next to R2 D2 got in but not Luke? Also the cutting the poster in half made so much sense now!

As someone actively trying to avoid the whole movie hype, I have to ask: Do you think they're going to address that big iron thing Chewbacca has dangling from his bowcaster? It can't serve any practical purpose, unless it's his front door key and he chained it to his weapon so he wouldn't lose it. Or maybe instead of rabbit's feet, Wookies carry around railroad spikes for good luck.

Thunderous Cacophony:
As someone actively trying to avoid the whole movie hype, I have to ask: Do you think they're going to address that big iron thing Chewbacca has dangling from his bowcaster? It can't serve any practical purpose, unless it's his front door key and he chained it to his weapon so he wouldn't lose it. Or maybe instead of rabbit's feet, Wookies carry around railroad spikes for good luck.

You mean the thing that looks like the sling he uses to hang the weapon over his back?

Good video!

Is there ANY chance the reason Luke didn't get in is because he's the guy in the mask?

Random nitpick: that chrome Stormtrooper leader is a woman.

Tohron:
Random nitpick: that chrome Stormtrooper leader is a woman.

Yeah but how are you suppose to know unless she talks or her name is thrown at you? Unless you're a die hard fan who's been following Force Awakens since it was announced, very unlikely you'd know that the character is a woman.

"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Jadak:

Thunderous Cacophony:
As someone actively trying to avoid the whole movie hype, I have to ask: Do you think they're going to address that big iron thing Chewbacca has dangling from his bowcaster? It can't serve any practical purpose, unless it's his front door key and he chained it to his weapon so he wouldn't lose it. Or maybe instead of rabbit's feet, Wookies carry around railroad spikes for good luck.

You mean the thing that looks like the sling he uses to hang the weapon over his back?

...

I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

Johnny Novgorod:
Good video!

Is there ANY chance the reason Luke didn't get in is because he's the guy in the mask?

I thought that was Jar Jar.

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:
I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

There's almost certainly some kind of twist about Luke's identity. I don't see any other reason why they would beat us over the head with nostalgia for the rest of the cast, but completely conceal Luke. Something's up, and it had better not be anything as predictable as him being Kylo Ren.

Johnny Novgorod:
Good video!

Is there ANY chance the reason Luke didn't get in is because he's the guy in the mask?

I'm convinced he is somewhere in the poster - more likely options currently are guy in the mask, or shiny stormtrooper at the bottom. I have no concept of how that would work but I figure it's more likely than him just not being in the poster. Clearly his presence in the film will be a twist of some kind.

Unless... any chance it's the rebel pilot next to Han? I don't recognise him and it's hard to tell with the helmet.

FirstNameLastName:

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:
I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

There's almost certainly some kind of twist about Luke's identity. I don't see any other reason why they would beat us over the head with nostalgia for the rest of the cast, but completely conceal Luke. Something's up, and it had better not be anything as predictable as him being Kylo Ren.

Rewatching the trailer, I'm convinced he is. With the bit about carrying on Vader's legacy, and with Han saying "all the stories are true." Heck, I just realized the red light saber is probably a really stupid symbol about Luke being Jesus, or something. There's also the possibility that Luke is preparing to fight some secret threat that nobody knows about. Maybe Vader (and the Emperor) knew something everyone else didn't. Like Paul, from the Dune series.

This isn't increasing my confidence.

Auron225:

Johnny Novgorod:
Good video!

Is there ANY chance the reason Luke didn't get in is because he's the guy in the mask?

I'm convinced he is somewhere in the poster - more likely options currently are guy in the mask, or shiny stormtrooper at the bottom. I have no concept of how that would work but I figure it's more likely than him just not being in the poster. Clearly his presence in the film will be a twist of some kind.

Unless... any chance it's the rebel pilot next to Han? I don't recognise him and it's hard to tell with the helmet.

obviously luke got into an accident and was transformed into the hellspawned abomination that Yahtzee pointed out.

Fox12:

FirstNameLastName:

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:
I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

There's almost certainly some kind of twist about Luke's identity. I don't see any other reason why they would beat us over the head with nostalgia for the rest of the cast, but completely conceal Luke. Something's up, and it had better not be anything as predictable as him being Kylo Ren.

Rewatching the trailer, I'm convinced he is. With the bit about carrying on Vader's legacy, and with Han saying "all the stories are true." Heck, I just realized the red light saber is probably a really stupid symbol about Luke being Jesus, or something. There's also the possibility that Luke is preparing to fight some secret threat that nobody knows about. Maybe Vader (and the Emperor) knew something everyone else didn't. Like Paul, from the Dune series.

This isn't increasing my confidence.

You think we might get a yuhzahn vong movie arc if that is the case? Because, personally, a heavily modified Vong story arc might be exactly what the Star Wars movies need to stay fresh instead of just being jedi v sith all the time.

Fox12:

FirstNameLastName:

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:
I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

There's almost certainly some kind of twist about Luke's identity. I don't see any other reason why they would beat us over the head with nostalgia for the rest of the cast, but completely conceal Luke. Something's up, and it had better not be anything as predictable as him being Kylo Ren.

Rewatching the trailer, I'm convinced he is. With the bit about carrying on Vader's legacy, and with Han saying "all the stories are true." Heck, I just realized the red light saber is probably a really stupid symbol about Luke being Jesus, or something. There's also the possibility that Luke is preparing to fight some secret threat that nobody knows about. Maybe Vader (and the Emperor) knew something everyone else didn't. Like Paul, from the Dune series.

This isn't increasing my confidence.

It could all be a clever red herring, but I'm not sure if I'll give them enough credit for something like that.
I'm aware that in another thread I said that Luke becoming the villain would be a decent story aspect, but not like this. He seems to be no where to be seen from the beginning, so it seems like a decent guess that he's already Kylo Ren before the movie starts, meaning, this could all just be the sake for a shallow twist.

I have to wonder whether they're trying to replicate the "I am your father" moment.

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Auron225:

Johnny Novgorod:
Good video!

Is there ANY chance the reason Luke didn't get in is because he's the guy in the mask?

I'm convinced he is somewhere in the poster - more likely options currently are guy in the mask, or shiny stormtrooper at the bottom. I have no concept of how that would work but I figure it's more likely than him just not being in the poster. Clearly his presence in the film will be a twist of some kind.

Unless... any chance it's the rebel pilot next to Han? I don't recognise him and it's hard to tell with the helmet.

I gather the guy in the Rebel pilot outfit is Poe Dameron, played by Oscar Isaac (he's clearly shown in the first trailer). And I think the shiny stormtrooper is supposed to be a woman (Lupita Nyongo). Also, guy in the black mask is supposedly "Kylo Ren", played by Adam Driver. If there's some iffy twist regarding Luke's identity I guess it would be with this last character but I doubt it.

The green Gremlin looking thingy with the goggles latched to its forehead looks like a Micheal Bay-iesh CGI rendition of Psychonaut's Raz...

Its always Jerry. Jerry is always the source of trouble in these stories.

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

Remember that this film is being directed the same person who thought Star Trek Into Darkness's main twist would be shocking and original...

I hope I'm wrong. I really hope I'm wrong. But Kylo Ren does seem to have a robotic right hand... Like someone else that we know...

And... Oh no. His name. Take the initials, KR, and +1 to each of them. You get LS. *Weeps* (Okay, yeah, that's a really flimsy piece of evidence, but it doesn't mean that I can't see Abrams pulling this...)

"Chewbacca has finally had enough of C-3PO's shit." It was at this point I promptly lost my shit. I love this show.

vallorn:
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FirstNameLastName:

Fox12:
"There's no picture of Luke Skywalker!"

Heh, what if he was the villain in the mask, as a lame twist.

...

Oh God. Oh God, that could actually happen. That could actually be a thing that is real in the world right now.

*Remembers scene in trailer where the villain says he'll finish what Vader started. Starts crying*

Darth_Payn:
I laughed at the Stormtrooper copy-paste bit, and it's really on-point. Copy-pasting is kind of the Empire/First Order's whole thing, enforcing conformity and all that.

And where the deuce is Luke?! Before anyone says, I don't know HOW he could be Kylo Ren, the guy with cigar lighters on his lightsaber.

There's almost certainly some kind of twist about Luke's identity. I don't see any other reason why they would beat us over the head with nostalgia for the rest of the cast, but completely conceal Luke. Something's up, and it had better not be anything as predictable as him being Kylo Ren.

Rewatching the trailer, I'm convinced he is. With the bit about carrying on Vader's legacy, and with Han saying "all the stories are true." Heck, I just realized the red light saber is probably a really stupid symbol about Luke being Jesus, or something. There's also the possibility that Luke is preparing to fight some secret threat that nobody knows about. Maybe Vader (and the Emperor) knew something everyone else didn't. Like Paul, from the Dune series.

This isn't increasing my confidence.[/quote]You think we might get a yuhzahn vong movie arc if that is the case? Because, personally, a heavily modified Vong story arc might be exactly what the Star Wars movies need to stay fresh instead of just being jedi v sith all the time.

I'm hoping it's something along those lines. If Luke just turned to the Dark Side needlessly then I would be very disappointed. A "greater threat" story arc could, at least, be interesting. They really need something to turn this series on its head. Maybe remove the simplicity of the "good vs. evil" dichotomy. If they just rehash A New Hope then I don't even see the point of the new films.

I think there's potential. My only question is how they justify Luke joining The Empire. You'd think he could accomplish the same goals with the Rebel's

The_Darkness:

Remember that this film is being directed the same person who thought Star Trek Into Darkness's main twist would be shocking and original...

And... Oh no. His name. Take the initials, KR, and +1 to each of them. You get LS. *Weeps* (Okay, yeah, that's a really flimsy piece of evidence, but it doesn't mean that I can't see Abrams pulling this...)

This is my main concern. We know Abram's did major rewrites, and one of the original trilogy screen writers left the project after disagreeing with hi. I have faith in a Star Wars project, but I have no faith in Abrams.

The sad thing is that your last post is probably right. That seems like the sort of thing he would think is clever. But maybe we'll get lucky, and it was Kyle Katarn the whole time!

Vasto:
"Chewbacca has finally had enough of C-3PO's shit." It was at this point I promptly lost my shit. I love this show.

Really, that was good but every time he came up with a new description for the little goggled alien blighter I ended up bursting out in giggles. That thing is hideous and I'm still confused as to how it got off the art design department's desk.

We can only hope that the lens flair from his goggles obscures the hideous monstrosity that is the rest of his character design...

A.K.B.:
The green Gremlin looking thingy with the goggles latched to its forehead looks like a Micheal Bay-iesh CGI rendition of Psychonaut's Raz...

Oh god... Now I'm imagining the rest of that movie. Please, make it stop, let this nightmare end!

Flatfrog:
Best JbtC so far. A masterpiece that justifies the whole somewhat lackluster series.

I attribute a bit of that excellence to a culmination of the "copy-paste" moments of the series. As a fan of it all, I only found two or three episodes to be lackluster, perhaps since they were almost all about character designs.

Johnny Novgorod:

I gather the guy in the Rebel pilot outfit is Poe Dameron, played by Oscar Isaac (he's clearly shown in the first trailer). And I think the shiny stormtrooper is supposed to be a woman (Lupita Nyongo). Also, guy in the black mask is supposedly "Kylo Ren", played by Adam Driver. If there's some iffy twist regarding Luke's identity I guess it would be with this last character but I doubt it.

Shiny Stormtrooper (Captain Phasma) is actually Gwendoline Christie, aka Brienne of Tarth from Game of Thrones. Yes, she's got another role where she gets to play a badass in armour, but this time IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE!

As for missing Luke, I've got a thought that its just because he won't end up being in the film much. Like, maybe he'll appear just in the very end scenes to deliver some "and now your fight has only just begun" type dialogue

I logged in after maybe 6 months away from this site just for this thread:

That, ladies and gentlemen, is Kylo Ren.

As for Luke not being in the poster, this is supposedly him:

Sorry, my inner fanboy got the better of me.

You know, Yahtzee's idea for a poster looks a lot better... maybe they could take his advice for the next film's poster? Something different in the posters would be nice, they've been pretty samey for the last few movies.

I wasn't aware these videos existed until 10 minutes ago. Good job.

Scarim Coral:
Yeah I do agreed why that alien next to R2 D2 got in but not Luke? Also the cutting the poster in half made so much sense now!

Well, as soon as Yahtzee pointed out that Luke wasn't on the poster even though Mark Hamill has second billing, it instantly confirmed my #1 suspicion about the film:

A.K.B.:
The green Gremlin looking thingy with the goggles latched to its forehead looks like a Micheal Bay-iesh CGI rendition of Psychonaut's Raz...

My very thought!

Maybe it's Luke, the light side of the force warping his face as the dark side did Palpatine's in Episode 3?

Starforce awakens wars?
I knew that Starforce was bad even for DRM, but was it really that bad?

Never understood the starwars concept, and never watched a single film.

 

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