Deus Ex Mankind Divided Review - I Definitely Asked for This

Deus Ex Mankind Divided Review - I Definitely Asked for This

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is a thrilling, suspenseful game that holds a mirror up to our own world without losing track of its own.

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Personally never considered for one second using the word "apartheid" was in any way contentious or "edgy" in a work of art, if you want to depict or talk about it you are of course entirely free to do so, but good to see we didn't get this played out to its "one star, morality police say no" conclusion, as has happened in the past. Nice to see the "-ism" hysteria that so gripped the hobby is finding more reasonable expression.

Holy crap! This site still does indepth reviews! There is life in the ole girl yet, now we must nurture this progress carefully.

"Anti-illuminati" Hmm, try saying that ten times in a row really fast while drunk. Well, the drunk part isn't a requirement, it merely numbs the pain of the imminent failure and shame. (Also my phone refused to acknowledge "illuminati" as a word in autocorrect...CONSPIRACIES!!! I'm onto their dirty tricks now!)

One thing that worries me is when you mention the abrupt ending with unanswered question/s. That is reminding me of what Jim Sterling once mentioned from a source that squeenix were planning on splitting up the deus ex storyline into separate games for more juicy profits. It would be interesting if he could update on that at some point. I find Squeenix to be consistently shady.

Now if only it didn't unlock at 18:00 CEST on Steam. Last time I had to endure this crap was with Mass Effect 3 release, all hail the glorious DRM!

Imre Csete:
Now if only it didn't unlock at 18:00 CEST on Steam. Last time I had to endure this crap was with Mass Effect 3 release, all hail the glorious DRM!

I am sitting here... waiting.... it's getting pretty solid reviews across the board, so pre-load it is. 😊

I can't wait to get my hands on this. I spent what little time I had over the weekend replaying DXHR, the Director Cut since I never played it like that. I love it so much, I simply can't wait for more DX freshness.

The bit about Mechanical Apartheid: Based on what we know of the games story, it's appropriate. Just like "Aug Lives Matter" is actually appropriate in this game. I hate this whole culture we have in the west where something is off limits if it also is something that has happened or is happening in real life. It's just BS that race-baiters use to contribute to their narrative about how incredibly racist everyone is. I also have little faith in America's education system. Part of me wonders of some kids aren't going to see something like "mechanical apartheid", wonder what they are talking about, then go and teach themselves about it since the schools do such a shit job at it. Don't get me wrong, US education isn't the bottom of the barrel as it's made out to be (thanks internet, you contribute so much to every conversation), but the fact is there is too much for any school system to teach people. If something gets said that makes people seek out the knowledge on their own, then that cannot be a bad thing. I know for a fact that any knowledge I have sought out rather than had thrust upon me is much better learned.

Xsjadoblayde:
Holy crap! This site still does indepth reviews! There is life in the ole girl yet, now we must nurture this progress carefully.

"Anti-illuminati" Hmm, try saying that ten times in a row really fast while drunk. Well, the drunk part isn't a requirement, it merely numbs the pain of the imminent failure and shame. (Also my phone refused to acknowledge "illuminati" as a word in autocorrect...CONSPIRACIES!!! I'm onto their dirty tricks now!)

One thing that worries me is when you mention the abrupt ending with unanswered question/s. That is reminding me of what Jim Sterling once mentioned from a source that squeenix were planning on splitting up the deus ex storyline into separate games for more juicy profits. It would be interesting if he could update on that at some point. I find Squeenix to be consistently shady.

It's not a conspiracy IF IT'S TRUE!

I hope they aren't breaking it up because I don't think I can wait another 4 years for more of it, haha. I think maybe one of the mentioned Story DLC's will add to it... unless they are going to force another replay because they are someplace in the middle of the game. That would be a dirty trick.

I'm really happy to hear it was good. This is one of the few game series that I replay every couple years.

My question is did they fudge up the PC release?

What would you call a mechanical apartheid, other than a "mechanical apartheid"?

Maybe my vocabulary is just insufficient.

wizzy555:
What would you call a mechanical apartheid, other than a "mechanical apartheid"?

Maybe my vocabulary is just insufficient.

It's essentially a term for segregation used in parts of Africa to sort out those that are inferior. So a number of things similar to terms used commonly in the 50's and 60's when the civil rights movement was really starting to take off.

The Enquirer:
My question is did they fudge up the PC release?

I like to think Our Lord and Master Totalbiscuit would have said something on Twitter about it if something was wrong.

And he has no remarks about performance, just a game breaking geometry bug that will likely be fixed before tomorrow.

The Enquirer:

wizzy555:
What would you call a mechanical apartheid, other than a "mechanical apartheid"?

Maybe my vocabulary is just insufficient.

It's essentially a term for segregation used in parts of Africa to sort out those that are inferior. So a number of things similar to terms used commonly in the 50's and 60's when the civil rights movement was really starting to take off.

Specifically, "apartheid" refers to a situation in which a minority group (based on demographic statistics) rules over a majority group. In the case of South Africa pre-1990s, that meant a relatively small group of white inhabitants (of Dutch and English descent) ruled over the native Africans, who formed a vastly larger percentage of the population.

Segregation, at least in the American sense, is more that a majority unfairly rules over a minority. In the US, white citizens held the power over the minority of black citizens, going so far as to separate people from institutions based on race. The two are related, but it's vital that the power dynamic be realized. In the end, both are about under-represented groups, but it depends on whether the groups that are under-represented are in the majority or minority.

So, the term "mechanical apartheid" pretty clearly means that the people with cybernetic augmentations are a minority overall, but still hold the majority of the power.

Ironman126:

The Enquirer:

wizzy555:
What would you call a mechanical apartheid, other than a "mechanical apartheid"?

Maybe my vocabulary is just insufficient.

It's essentially a term for segregation used in parts of Africa to sort out those that are inferior. So a number of things similar to terms used commonly in the 50's and 60's when the civil rights movement was really starting to take off.

Specifically, "apartheid" refers to a situation in which a minority group (based on demographic statistics) rules over a majority group. In the case of South Africa pre-1990s, that meant a relatively small group of white inhabitants (of Dutch and English descent) ruled over the native Africans, who formed a vastly larger percentage of the population.

Segregation, at least in the American sense, is more that a majority unfairly rules over a minority. In the US, white citizens held the power over the minority of black citizens, going so far as to separate people from institutions based on race. The two are related, but it's vital that the power dynamic be realized. In the end, both are about under-represented groups, but it depends on whether the groups that are under-represented are in the majority or minority.

So, the term "mechanical apartheid" pretty clearly means that the people with cybernetic augmentations are a minority overall, but still hold the majority of the power.

That's a much better description than what I had given. Thanks for that!

The Enquirer:
I'm really happy to hear it was good. This is one of the few game series that I replay every couple years.

My question is did they fudge up the PC release?

Early benchmarks suggest it's very demanding on hardware if you want to crank up the graphics (albeit with pre-release drivers). Don't expect 1080/60 on ultra, even with a GTX1080 (SLI scaling is decent, apparently). If you don't mind lowering a few settings, it should run fine on any recent enthusiast cards.

Bilious Green:

The Enquirer:
I'm really happy to hear it was good. This is one of the few game series that I replay every couple years.

My question is did they fudge up the PC release?

Early benchmarks suggest it's very demanding on hardware if you want to crank up the graphics (albeit with pre-release drivers). Don't expect 1080/60 on ultra, even with a GTX1080 (SLI scaling is decent, apparently). If you don't mind lowering a few settings, it should run fine on any recent enthusiast cards.

I've got a 980ti so I should be pretty good then since it's a decent amount quicker. I was more concerned with them really fucking the game over Arkham Knight style simply because so many games I've wanted to buy recently have had this be the case.

The Enquirer:

Ironman126:
snip.

That's a much better description than what I had given. Thanks for that!

You're quite welcome! Glad I could contribute to the conversation.

i didnt really had any doubt that the game will be bad, but i hold back until a GOTY version is available as they did with the last title. also, the pre order has only a few tracks instead of the full soundtrack, isnt really worth my money. they did this crap with the 2013 tomb raider and in the end i had to buy the entire soundtrack because it was cheaper than buying the missing songs individually.

"Deus Ex: Mankind Divided has a little bit of something for everyone. It's a must-have, must-play masterpiece, marred only by a somewhat unfulfilling finale. The industry feels a little bit better now that this game is a part of it."

Sounds like an overview for the first game, minus "except for the crap boss-fights" lol

All-in-all, pretty excited to play this eventually.

Lizzy Finnegan:
However, after spending hours upon hours in the Mankind Divided world - after being called a "clank" as I walked the streets of Prague, after having to use a separate entrance to board the metro, after being harassed by the police, and after hearing news segment after news segment demonizing augmented humans - I can safely say that no word better describes the setting or events of this game than "apartheid." It's an uncomfortable word, but that's not a bad thing.

In your opinion, is the allegory heavy-handed and singularly devoted to seeing it from the perspective of "aug's" or is there room for interpretation?

I mean, logically the answer is that you're literal walking proof of the fears realized and that we've seen examples in previous games of how devastating a few individuals can be.
Is this one of the unresolved questions that left you feeling conflicted? That the apartheid was in some ways justified and did you maybe realize that you yourself were or became the very reason that people were so afraid?

Bottomline reason that I'm asking is, if the story falls into the trap of oversympathizing and being one-sided, in your opinion?

I will have to attempt to run this game rolling my old GT755M. It did run Doom which has a higher minimum requirement of a 670 over DX's 660..... so my fingers are crossed tight that it's playable for most part.

I have a distinct feeling I won't be able to run this game since I'm still chugging along with an HD6970 video card. Bloody hell I didn't want to have to upgrade my GPU yet but I guess there's bugger all choice.

"I wanted to sneak through the vents, but they gave me a lemon-lime vending machine blocking the exit."

Baresark:
It's not a conspiracy IF IT'S TRUE!

I hope they aren't breaking it up because I don't think I can wait another 4 years for more of it, haha. I think maybe one of the mentioned Story DLC's will add to it... unless they are going to force another replay because they are someplace in the middle of the game. That would be a dirty trick.

that thing you just said is literally parceling off the crucial part of a story and selling it as an add-on, so basically now you've positioned their theoretical ransoming as mercy

The real question: Is super-cyborg Adam Jensen still so squishy that an overweight old man with a 10mm. is a legitimate threat?
If so, then there is no choice. If you leave cover to punch some skulls in you die. You have to play stealth and be miserable because you're playing stealth.

Gordon_4:
I have a distinct feeling I won't be able to run this game since I'm still chugging along with an HD6970 video card. Bloody hell I didn't want to have to upgrade my GPU yet but I guess there's bugger all choice.

I haven't played much, but I can run the game with my GT755M. Some quick googling reveals that it's quite the bit crappier than the HD6970.

There was a benchmark feature and that ran like absolute butts, giving me an average FPS of 19. But I started the game with the settings on mostly Low and I was running around and shooting bullets just fine. No idea what it will be like when I actually meet enemies and get into gunfights. And of course the game looks pretty shit as a result.

I'll see how it goes when I actually get some hours into the game.

Wings012:

Gordon_4:
I have a distinct feeling I won't be able to run this game since I'm still chugging along with an HD6970 video card. Bloody hell I didn't want to have to upgrade my GPU yet but I guess there's bugger all choice.

I haven't played much, but I can run the game with my GT755M. Some quick googling reveals that it's quite the bit crappier than the HD6970.

There was a benchmark feature and that ran like absolute butts, giving me an average FPS of 19. But I started the game with the settings on mostly Low and I was running around and shooting bullets just fine. No idea what it will be like when I actually meet enemies and get into gunfights. And of course the game looks pretty shit as a result.

I'll see how it goes when I actually get some hours into the game.

When I was a child I was happy when I got knights of the old republic running at 15 FPS. I thought 24 was "good". Oh forgive me PC master race.

Wings012:

Gordon_4:
I have a distinct feeling I won't be able to run this game since I'm still chugging along with an HD6970 video card. Bloody hell I didn't want to have to upgrade my GPU yet but I guess there's bugger all choice.

I haven't played much, but I can run the game with my GT755M. Some quick googling reveals that it's quite the bit crappier than the HD6970.

There was a benchmark feature and that ran like absolute butts, giving me an average FPS of 19. But I started the game with the settings on mostly Low and I was running around and shooting bullets just fine. No idea what it will be like when I actually meet enemies and get into gunfights. And of course the game looks pretty shit as a result.

I'll see how it goes when I actually get some hours into the game.

Well, that's interesting to know. Thank you for that :)

I put 4 hours into the game. It is playable, with some tolerance. I'll probably lower the resolution next time I play. It's not the smoothest of experiences. Most notably conversations are sorta... sluggish and it feels like the body animations desync from the speech. They finish talking but the bodies continue miming out a bunch of shrugs and actions with no dialogue and it makes for a surreal experience. There was also a non playable sequence where you walk through a place and talk to some person, and various background characters would visibly just spawn in and I'd walk through them. Made for a goofy scene.

Combat does feel a bit twitchy and unresponsive, though I heard there's some mouse acceleration nonsense to blame.

So well, you can totally go below the minimum specs given(at least down to the GT755M). It's just not the most quality experience.

I'll just put up with it cause I don't plan on getting a new machine for at least another year.

Souplex:
The real question: Is super-cyborg Adam Jensen still so squishy that an overweight old man with a 10mm. is a legitimate threat?
If so, then there is no choice. If you leave cover to punch some skulls in you die. You have to play stealth and be miserable because you're playing stealth.

What? First of all Deus Ex has always encouraged some discretion (and the newer games your only melee attack is the takedown anyway), so if you are looking to play like a fallout NV melee build you might be barking up the wrong tree. OTOH if you grab the right augs and play with the least bit of tactical sense you can shoot your way through most encounters without ever bothering with stealth. But that was true of the first game which I beat on hard while neglecting stealth outside of moments where I felt it would have story consequences (i.e, I wasn't gonna go rambo in the police station).

weirdee:
"I wanted to sneak through the vents, but they gave me a lemon-lime vending machine blocking the exit."

Baresark:
It's not a conspiracy IF IT'S TRUE!

I hope they aren't breaking it up because I don't think I can wait another 4 years for more of it, haha. I think maybe one of the mentioned Story DLC's will add to it... unless they are going to force another replay because they are someplace in the middle of the game. That would be a dirty trick.

that thing you just said is literally parceling off the crucial part of a story and selling it as an add-on, so basically now you've positioned their theoretical ransoming as mercy

I have played and finished my first time through, the ending does feel a tad empty. But given that this game is now trying to match up to a 16 year old game in terms of canon, because you know the fanbase will raise holy hell if they mess it up, I actually don't mind the DLC they are doing.

From what I can tell, it will answer one of two questions, [SPOILER #1] which you uncover once you get to spend the PRAXIS, and [SPOILER #2] which you can find at the end cutscenes (this is a cheat because there are two options here) because of the aforementioned canon-welding they will have to do.

But yeah, I don't think this DLC will be too bad of a thing, but I would like to strangle the person who let you buy PRAXIS irl, for Adam as an idea into this game.

The game definitely has flaws but this is a series that had Invisible War so it's DEFINITELY not the worst of the series, I do miss some of the locations from Human Revolution like Hengshaw, the visuals there were amazing and I loved how it mixed grungy cyberpunk with gleaming futurism. Prague, though nice, isn't as interesting.

vallorn:
The game definitely has flaws but this is a series that had Invisible War so it's DEFINITELY not the worst of the series, I do miss some of the locations from Human Revolution like Hengshaw, the visuals there were amazing and I loved how it mixed grungy cyberpunk with gleaming futurism. Prague, though nice, isn't as interesting.

I agree, I really miss the setting of Human Revolution. Although not as beautiful looking as this game, it had a style that I loved. I suppose this is more fitting with a dirtier looking world, but I miss those gold gleams.

I'm about 20 hours in, I do so enjoy looking into every nook and crevice, and I can safely say I have already felt it's money well spent. Wish it was optimized better and the random shoulder shrugs are a bit weird, but damnit Jenson, I wish I was as cool as you. lol

Imre Csete:
Now if only it didn't unlock at 18:00 CEST on Steam. Last time I had to endure this crap was with Mass Effect 3 release, all hail the glorious DRM!

Oh trust me sequel bait is in FULL effect here there is a major question from the start of the game which you dive through several side missions spread along the plot trying to answer only to come up with we don't know so we'll keep looking as an answer

--edit -- whoops clicked the wrong quote box

major_chaos:
(i.e, I wasn't gonna go rambo in the police station).

I trust you at least amended this in your second playthrough

Ocelano:

Oh trust me sequel bait is in FULL effect here there is a major question from the start of the game which you dive through several side missions spread along the plot trying to answer only to come up with we don't know so we'll keep looking as an answer

--edit -- whoops clicked the wrong quote box

Giving my 2 cents anyway.

I'm loving Prague Subway Simulator 2029 so far, and I didn't mind HR's bleak ending(s), so we'll see. Although it certainly doesn't have the "wow factor" so I'm not devoting every minute of my freetime to it as I usually do with the few day 1 purchases I make every year (The Witcher 3 ruined gaming, shame on you CDPR), but I sill love reading e-mails and beating up people for their poor IT security choices.

 

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