Zero Punctuation: Metroid Prime Federation Force

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Metroid Prime Federation Force

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Metroid Prime Federation Force.

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Samus O'Ran of MacDroid Prime!

So Yahtzee is what i sound like on Coke.
Is this what Yahtzee sounds like on Coke?

Well, I guess Metroid fans can always just play the Prime trilogy again.

If this game doesn't sell, Nintendo will probably take that as a sign that no one wants Metroid games, and if the game sells they'll take that to mean they want more Metroid games where you don't play as Samus. Either way looks bad for the fans.

I guess Nintendo could take a closer look at criticisms of the game's direction and listen to pleas from fans asking for more regular Metroid games.
However, I should warn those waiting for that that while it is "safe" to hold your breath until that day comes, but make sure you're in a safe place to pass out.

Anyway, thanks for the show. =w= b

So, in others words, replay Metroid Prime 1 or 2 instead (Just started playing Prime 2, actually, friend lent it to me), or just track down AM2R (the fan remake of Metroid 2 that I can confirm is actually pretty damn good) and play that instead of buying Federation Farce. Gotcha.

Seriously, Nintendo, stop mistreating Metroid please? I know you guys want more original ideas instead of straight up sequels, mario style, but this is terrible.

Give us a sequel to Fusion, with Samus on the run from the federation, trying to deal with her new Metroid DNA corrupting her, and with perhaps temporary powerups to your beam gained by draining enemies of energy like an actual Metroid as she explores a derelict research station, hovering around a deadly planet, and maybe with a prison break sequence to start things off. And with Samus taking the piss out of her ship's AI, making fun of how shitty "Adam" was in Other M. like, I dunno, "Scans indicate some parts of this zone are exceedingly cold. Your Varia module is currently compromised. Be cautious" "At least this time you aren't forgetting to authorize me to use it, Adam. I mean, seriously." "Will you EVER let me live that down, Samus?" "Should I?".

Like, 2D or 3D or 2D with Smash Bros 3D graphics, I don't care. Just give us something that actually stays true to the spirit of the Metroid series. Hell, even the DS metroid game was alright, as long as you forgive some of the shitty instant-death platforming bits.

aegix drakan:
And with Samus taking the piss out of her ship's AI, making fun of how shitty "Adam" was in Other M. like, I dunno, "Scans indicate some parts of this zone are exceedingly cold. Your Varia module is currently compromised. Be cautious" "At least this time you aren't forgetting to authorize me to use it, Adam. I mean, seriously." "Will you EVER let me live that down, Samus?" "Should I?".

Adam will never live that down.

Nintendo, you're just making it easier for me to stop buying your games aside from Pokemon.

Yes thank you Yahtzee for shitting all over this terrible excuse for a Metroid game, another bad thing about this game is the graphics look horribly outdated, seriously they look like they could've been on the regular DS(Metroid Prime Hunters looked better)

On a side note, next week Yahtzee is going to be on the Co Optional Podcast with Total Biscuit, cannot fucking wait for that.

Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

darkrage6:

On a side note, next week Yahtzee is going to be on the Co Optional Podcast with Total Biscuit,[..]

Thanks for the heads up!

Imp Emissary:

aegix drakan:
And with Samus taking the piss out of her ship's AI, making fun of how shitty "Adam" was in Other M. like, I dunno, "Scans indicate some parts of this zone are exceedingly cold. Your Varia module is currently compromised. Be cautious" "At least this time you aren't forgetting to authorize me to use it, Adam. I mean, seriously." "Will you EVER let me live that down, Samus?" "Should I?".

Adam will never live that down.

Ummm....

Beardy, bald, hopeless Nintendo Fanboy with glasses, wearing a Mario shirt? I see what you did there, Yahtzee and I like it.

Any chance he's going to play the Attack on Titan game? He would shit on EVERYTHING but he might enjoy the movement somewhat.

darkrage6:
Yes thank you Yahtzee for shitting all over this terrible excuse for a Metroid game, another bad thing about this game is the graphics look horribly outdated, seriously they look like they could've been on the regular DS(Metroid Prime Hunters looked better)

On a side note, next week Yahtzee is going to be on the Co Optional Podcast with Total Biscuit, cannot fucking wait for that.

'Bout damn time those two did something together; I'm legitimately surprise the Escapist hasn't snatched Mr. Bain up by now, although it's very possible that Jim Sterling has warned him not to have anything to do with them.

I was one of the few people who actually kinda had hopes for this game. cuz it looked a bit like a sci-fi monster hunter type deal. Then here comes captain Yahtzee to tell me that the best thing about the game is the dumb football thing that I was going to ignore completely is the best part.

Oh well. Maybe next time Adam will authorize a good game. You know, in the next thirty years.

Enzbe:
Beardy, bald, hopeless Nintendo Fanboy with glasses, wearing a Mario shirt? I see what you did there, Yahtzee and I like it.

Oooooooooh now I get it ;)

Bedinsis:
Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

Blue Shift was a console exclusive alternate story for the Dreamcast version of Half-Life, and that was cancelled a month from release. So, how do you think it was received?

Also, I'm not sure about everyone else, but I've just given up on Nintendo. Half-way through last year, it seems like the company has been very insistent about making sure their customers feel like their money is better spent elsewhere.

Seriously, which moron decided that quality 2d metroid games had to die with the gba and that metroid hunters of all things was the new gold standard for portable metroid games?
Fusion was great, zero mission was great. Nintendo had a great thing going. What's the deal?

Johnny Novgorod:

Enzbe:
Beardy, bald, hopeless Nintendo Fanboy with glasses, wearing a Mario shirt? I see what you did there, Yahtzee and I like it.

Oooooooooh now I get it ;)

What, is he making fun of Boogie or something?

You mean...the thing that metroid and nintendo fans alike said looked like an absolute shit game wearing the metroid franchise name turned out to be an absolute shit game wearing the metroid franchise name? Nah, Nintendo knows what the fans want! I mean look at the Wii-U, What? *incoherent whispering* oh right...*ahem* I mean look at the Nintendo NX! The thing you know nothing about!

Transdude1996:

Bedinsis:
Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

Blue Shift was a console exclusive alternate story for the Dreamcast version of Half-Life, and that was cancelled a month from release. So, how do you think it was received?

Um... It was definitely finished, and it's on Steam right now.

Can someone explain to me how Other M makes the Prime games non-canon? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Transdude1996:

Bedinsis:
Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

Blue Shift was a console exclusive alternate story for the Dreamcast version of Half-Life, and that was cancelled a month from release. So, how do you think it was received?

Also, I'm not sure about everyone else, but I've just given up on Nintendo. Half-way through last year, it seems like the company has been very insistent about making sure their customers feel like their money is better spent elsewhere.

Actually, it was eventually ported to PC. Going by reviews, Opposing Force is regarded as pretty good, and Blue Shift is seen as good enough.

Bedinsis:
Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

As far as I know, op4 eventually gave birth to Counter-Strike, so that's that.

SeaCalMaster:

Transdude1996:

Bedinsis:
Regarding games that do not contain the usual protagonist:

How was Half Life: Opposing Force and Blue Shift received?

Blue Shift was a console exclusive alternate story for the Dreamcast version of Half-Life, and that was cancelled a month from release. So, how do you think it was received?

Um... It was definitely finished, and it's on Steam right now.

Can someone explain to me how Other M makes the Prime games non-canon? That doesn't make any sense at all.

A quick google search says that it's because in Other M, she claims she hasn't take orders from the military or worked with the federation forces since leaving Adam's command.

She's pretty much working nonstop with the Federation army through all of Prime 3. That seems to be it, really.

That and removing the Prime Series lowers the "Ridley slain" counter down from about 4 to just 2, making her freak out moment 1% more believable.

aegix drakan:
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Not sure if that was intentional on Yahtzee's part, but the director of the Prime games, who doesn't work with Retro Studios anymore, released this week his most recent game, ReCore, with the help of none other than Comcept, it went as well as you might expect. Now the fact is that he's gone may have something to do with the Metroid-less Retro Studios.

I think that Metroid is their most experimental series... ever, Nintendo outright refuses to let anyone work on Mario or Zelda because they have memories of the last time they let, and because the Metroid Prime Trilogy were the first Nintendo games developed outside of Japan, without direct interference from Nintendo of Japan [kinda redundant saying that], and after the blunder of Team Ninja and Sakamoto, I don't think Nintendo is going to trust anyone else to work with their franchises as the CDi scars re-opened with the sales and critics of Other M. But FF does appear to set up something, and considering it's a game set just before Metroid II, I think they have plans for Samus.

It's nice to see Yahtzee snorting a line of coke for these. It shows dedication.
Yeah, Metroid has been dead ever since the stroke that was Other M killed the franchise, so this game sounds more like the end of rigor mortis than anything that will revive the franchise. I say kick Sakamoto in the head, give the franchise to Retro Studios and officially declare Other M as in-universe Space Pirate propaganda.

SeaCalMaster:
Can someone explain to me how Other M makes the Prime games non-canon? That doesn't make any sense at all.

It's easy. Yoshio Sakamoto, the former director of the franchise [1], came out and flat out stated that the Prime series was non-canon. Why? I don't know. Probably because he thinks that it doesn't fit with the new "Samus", the amazing armour-clad ovary.

[1] I say former because I trust the fucking janitor of Nintendo more than him now.

And yet it's still less of an utter disappointment/betrayal than Sticker Star.

GrumbleGrump:
officially declare Other M as in-universe Space Pirate propaganda.

I like this idea. XD

You know, I'm still shocked at the people who defended Other M. Seriously, it was preposterous how much context they ignored, and how much actual proof/visuals/text they glossed over when declaring that Other M did a good job with Samus. >_>

Silentpony:

Johnny Novgorod:

Enzbe:
Beardy, bald, hopeless Nintendo Fanboy with glasses, wearing a Mario shirt? I see what you did there, Yahtzee and I like it.

Oooooooooh now I get it ;)

What, is he making fun of Boogie or something?

He's likely referring to moviebob, who used to made videos here before he lost his marbles.

GrumbleGrump:
It's easy. Yoshio Sakamoto, the former director of the franchise [1], came out and flat out stated that the Prime series was non-canon. Why? I don't know. Probably because he thinks that it doesn't fit with the new "Samus", the amazing armour-clad ovary.

Do you have a source for this? I can't find it. The closest I can find is Sakamoto saying that he wasn't directly involved with the story for the Prime games, but that's very different from declaring them non-canon.

[1] I say former because I trust the fucking janitor of Nintendo more than him now.

aegix drakan:
You know, I'm still shocked at the people who defended Other M. Seriously, it was preposterous how much context they ignored, and how much actual proof/visuals/text they glossed over when declaring that Other M did a good job with Samus. >_>

Back in the glory days, when The Escapist had it's own in-house Nintendo fanboy, he used to say that "Samus"[1] was better than Samus because she had a character and that all the characterization that Samus had was invented by fans. Which is weird, considering that Super Metroid alone gives her a few traits before gameplay even starts. This also implies that he thinks no character is automatically worse that having a character, which the Legend of Zelda cartoons and Zelda CD-I games inmediatly disprove.

Ahh, the good old days...

SeaCalMaster:

GrumbleGrump:
It's easy. Yoshio Sakamoto, the former director of the franchise [2], came out and flat out stated that the Prime series was non-canon. Why? I don't know. Probably because he thinks that it doesn't fit with the new "Samus", the amazing armour-clad ovary.

Do you have a source for this? I can't find it. The closest I can find is Sakamoto saying that he wasn't directly involved with the story for the Prime games, but that's very different from declaring them non-canon.

Now that I look for it, apparently it was a mistranlated interview that said it. The actual intention was that it didn't need the Prime games to work or that the Prime games are something like their own thing. Regardless, it still doesn't change the fact that Other M doesn't work with anything, since "Samus" acts completely disconnected from every other Metroid game. In fact it just makes the Ridley scene in MOM way more stupid, since Samus has killed him about 4 times now (5 times in Fusion, after MOM).

[1] Meaning Other M Samus.
[2] I say former because I trust the fucking janitor of Nintendo more than him now.

So the thing that looked like it was a total disgrace to the Metroid franchise turned out to be just that?

And people told me I was jumping to conclusions. Because apparently every single thing about the game spitting in the face of Metroid fans wasn't proof that it would be a bad game. No, instead it turned out to be an AVERAGE game...that spat in the face of Metroid fans.

That'll teach me for being right...

GrumbleGrump:

aegix drakan:
You know, I'm still shocked at the people who defended Other M. Seriously, it was preposterous how much context they ignored, and how much actual proof/visuals/text they glossed over when declaring that Other M did a good job with Samus. >_>

Back in the glory days, when The Escapist had it's own in-house Nintendo fanboy, he used to say that "Samus"[1] was better than Samus because she had a character and that all the characterization that Samus had was invented by fans. Which is weird, considering that Super Metroid alone gives her a few traits before gameplay even starts. This also implies that he thinks no character is automatically worse that having a character, which the Legend of Zelda cartoons and Zelda CD-I games inmediatly disprove.

Ahh, the good old days...

That's just the tip of the problems with his Other M defense.

He also ignored the various points in the Prime series where Samus shows emotion.

Not to mention he ignored the ACTUAL first story driven metroid. Fusion. You know, the game Other M is a prequel to?

Not to mention her soft side, shown at the end of Metroid 2. >_>

Seriously, that's the point for me where he jumped the shark and I couldn't take his game opinions seriously anymore. :s How can you overlook all of THAT and say that the "I am an emotionless emotional robot who is too stupid to ask for Varia suit authorization, and I will crumble in fear at the sight of the nemesis I've slain again and again" version of samus is the better one? -_-

I mean if they wanted to

[1] Meaning Other M Samus.

erttheking:
So the thing that looked like it was a total disgrace to the Metroid franchise turned out to be just that?

And people told me I was jumping to conclusions. Because apparently every single thing about the game spitting in the face of Metroid fans wasn't proof that it would be a bad game. No, instead it turned out to be an AVERAGE game...that spat in the face of Metroid fans.

That'll teach me for being right...

Well, it doesn't help that the game was released on the series' 30th anniversary, and a complete fan remake of Metroid 2 seemed to show more dedication to the series than Nintendo has done since sentencing Retro Studios to remake Donkey Kong.

Actually, now that I think about, a lot of the best "Nintendo" games released in recent years haven't actually been developed by Nintendo. And, it seems quite funny that they take offense to this by proceeding to take out anything new that was good in favor of showing the masses the "superior capabilities" of programmers nearing retirement, or just drop the series all together.

Maybe after all the people being pissed off as how Samus was portrayed in Other M Nintendo just preferred to not show her so no one could complain about that...

Steve the Pocket:

darkrage6:
Yes thank you Yahtzee for shitting all over this terrible excuse for a Metroid game, another bad thing about this game is the graphics look horribly outdated, seriously they look like they could've been on the regular DS(Metroid Prime Hunters looked better)

On a side note, next week Yahtzee is going to be on the Co Optional Podcast with Total Biscuit, cannot fucking wait for that.

'Bout damn time those two did something together; I'm legitimately surprise the Escapist hasn't snatched Mr. Bain up by now, although it's very possible that Jim Sterling has warned him not to have anything to do with them.

Total Biscuit does not want to work for gaming journalism websites as he does not trust them, and considering the Escapist is doing freaking sponsored videos for exploitative mobile garbage like Clash of Kings, I can't blame him, there's just something very wrong about that.

Well, at least there's going to be a Mario game on smartphones later this year...

You know what, fuck Nintendo. I never liked Metroid anyways...

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