Zero Punctuation: Nintendo Switch & Breath of the Wild

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darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:
It really does not have much in the way of games coming soon, the Switch's release schedule looks really dry aside from Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey, both of which are several months away, so I don't expect the console to continue flying off the shelves for the rest of the year.

He was right, nobody was really asking for it, people wanted another like the Gamecube.

Jeez you are such a ridiculous fanboy. Do you write angry emails to Yahtzee like those fools did for his Mailbag Showdown video?

PS4 and Xbox One's launches were FAR better then the Switch's, at least they had actual exclusives that were not available on last-gen consoles.

Switch has a lot of problems, you cannot deny that.

No but I can't deny that the PS4 and Xbone had problems either like you are.

I'm sorry but you weren't asking for Nintendo or anyone for that matter to bring back local multiplayer instead of everything being online multiplayer only? You people are nuts.

And no they really aren't. Quantity wise maybe but practically everything exclusive to those consoles was forgettable garbage (Knack, Ryse, etc.) You had to wait until early '13 for the first decent exclusives to come out and everything else was either ports or 3rd party stuff that was already long on STEAM which was the better deal.

And why would you want Nintendo to make another GameCube? I understand it was an awesome system but guess what? IT DIDN'T SELL! You see how backwards your logic is?

Um did I ever say they didn't have problems? NOOOOOOOOOO, you just assumed I did.

You are nuts, I was never asking for Nintendo to do any such thing. PS4 and XB1 had plenty of good exclusive titles, their launch line-up was far better then Nintendo.

Gamecube did sell well actually, it certainly was not a failure like the Wii U, it just wasn't as big as the PS2 was that gen.

Not everyone plays games on PC, don't assume that they do.

You mean like how you assume everyone wants another GameCube? Double standards much?

And no they did not. They had forgettable garbage. PS4 had to wait until Infamous Second Son and that was average and forgettable. And I'm still waiting for XBone to give me one good exclusive that isn't a compilation disk.

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:
It really does not have much in the way of games coming soon, the Switch's release schedule looks really dry aside from Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey, both of which are several months away, so I don't expect the console to continue flying off the shelves for the rest of the year.

He was right, nobody was really asking for it, people wanted another like the Gamecube.

Jeez you are such a ridiculous fanboy. Do you write angry emails to Yahtzee like those fools did for his Mailbag Showdown video?

PS4 and Xbox One's launches were FAR better then the Switch's, at least they had actual exclusives that were not available on last-gen consoles.

Switch has a lot of problems, you cannot deny that.

No but I can't deny that the PS4 and Xbone had problems either like you are.

I'm sorry but you weren't asking for Nintendo or anyone for that matter to bring back local multiplayer instead of everything being online multiplayer only? You people are nuts.

And no they really aren't. Quantity wise maybe but practically everything exclusive to those consoles was forgettable garbage (Knack, Ryse, etc.) You had to wait until early '13 for the first decent exclusives to come out and everything else was either ports or 3rd party stuff that was already long on STEAM which was the better deal.

And why would you want Nintendo to make another GameCube? I understand it was an awesome system but guess what? IT DIDN'T SELL! You see how backwards your logic is?

Um did I ever say they didn't have problems? NOOOOOOOOOO, you just assumed I did.

You are nuts, I was never asking for Nintendo to do any such thing. PS4 and XB1 had plenty of good exclusive titles, their launch line-up was far better then Nintendo.

Gamecube did sell well actually, it certainly was not a failure like the Wii U, it just wasn't as big as the PS2 was that gen.

Not everyone plays games on PC, don't assume that they do.

Bro, there's no point to debating the guy. He'll keep assuming your opinion on things, making accusations, and genuinely acting like this

darkrage6:
He likes it, but he's not completely orgasming over it like all the other critics are, he's refreshingly honest about admitting that it does indeed have problems and is not a perfect game by any stretch, Jim Sterling is doing the same, admitting that he likes the game but is really frustrated with several of it's design choices(that whole "not being able to climb while it's raining" bullshit is not something I want to deal with).

Even this seems like high praise! I'll check Jim ASAP, thanks for pointing that out. I'm just high on that he has now tried the Switch at all!

And his new book? I love the title, 4/5 at Amazon and available on Audible! I intend to pick it up 4/5/2017 when I get my next subscription credit. Sounds like a hoot.

Hooray I can watch videos again! I wonder what the problem was and why it went away after like 2 months.

*splurges Zelda fanboy milkshake everywhere*

Wait what?? No...I'm just imagining things. Yahtzee wouldn't... would he?...

Combat mechanically is very basic, music doesn't always provide an atmosphere to the area, you can't detail ANY progress on the map manually so its the vision towers or bust (locations of things aren't added but I can't even run off in a random direction and jot out the map from my random wandering) and the climbing can get very tedious be it the rain making you have to stop or just the general fact taking it slow and steady is the stamina appropriate decision, forcing just holding UP for a lot of it. Oh and frame-rate drops, I don't care if they are few or far between there shouldn't be ANY in a game that was delayed for years to be made and ported to the switch. Least give me some graphical tweaking options to have more control over it.

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

No but I can't deny that the PS4 and Xbone had problems either like you are.

I'm sorry but you weren't asking for Nintendo or anyone for that matter to bring back local multiplayer instead of everything being online multiplayer only? You people are nuts.

And no they really aren't. Quantity wise maybe but practically everything exclusive to those consoles was forgettable garbage (Knack, Ryse, etc.) You had to wait until early '13 for the first decent exclusives to come out and everything else was either ports or 3rd party stuff that was already long on STEAM which was the better deal.

And why would you want Nintendo to make another GameCube? I understand it was an awesome system but guess what? IT DIDN'T SELL! You see how backwards your logic is?

Um did I ever say they didn't have problems? NOOOOOOOOOO, you just assumed I did.

You are nuts, I was never asking for Nintendo to do any such thing. PS4 and XB1 had plenty of good exclusive titles, their launch line-up was far better then Nintendo.

Gamecube did sell well actually, it certainly was not a failure like the Wii U, it just wasn't as big as the PS2 was that gen.

Not everyone plays games on PC, don't assume that they do.

You mean like how you assume everyone wants another GameCube? Double standards much?

And no they did not. They had forgettable garbage. PS4 had to wait until Infamous Second Son and that was average and forgettable. And I'm still waiting for XBone to give me one good exclusive that isn't a compilation disk.

You're the only one I see with double-standards here.

They did not have "forgettable garbage" just cause you say so, now repeat after me- "my opinions are NOT indisputable facts".

PS4 also has Killzone, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Bloodborne, Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0, Until Dawn and Horizon Zero Dawn.

Xbox has good exclusives-Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2, Gears 4, Dead Rising 3 and 4, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Halo 5 and Re-Core.

kenu12345:

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

No but I can't deny that the PS4 and Xbone had problems either like you are.

I'm sorry but you weren't asking for Nintendo or anyone for that matter to bring back local multiplayer instead of everything being online multiplayer only? You people are nuts.

And no they really aren't. Quantity wise maybe but practically everything exclusive to those consoles was forgettable garbage (Knack, Ryse, etc.) You had to wait until early '13 for the first decent exclusives to come out and everything else was either ports or 3rd party stuff that was already long on STEAM which was the better deal.

And why would you want Nintendo to make another GameCube? I understand it was an awesome system but guess what? IT DIDN'T SELL! You see how backwards your logic is?

Um did I ever say they didn't have problems? NOOOOOOOOOO, you just assumed I did.

You are nuts, I was never asking for Nintendo to do any such thing. PS4 and XB1 had plenty of good exclusive titles, their launch line-up was far better then Nintendo.

Gamecube did sell well actually, it certainly was not a failure like the Wii U, it just wasn't as big as the PS2 was that gen.

Not everyone plays games on PC, don't assume that they do.

Bro, there's no point to debating the guy. He'll keep assuming your opinion on things, making accusations, and genuinely acting like this

Beats being a Nintendo fanboy like that guy.

In the past few months, Yahtzee has enjoyed a Final Fantasy game, lauded a Resident Evil game, and gotten immersed in a Zelda game.

I am now buying plutonium, because I've apparently slipped into an alternate dimension, and I need a flux capacitor to get home.

Wow...it took 8 responses (well 7 since the first was apparently an ad spam) for the fanboy to pop out? I'm kinda disappointed...one would think it would be sooner.

LordTerminal:

kenu12345:
I spotted the fanboy everyone.

For having a legitimate point? And you people wonder why I'm so anal when this is what I get for bringing up a very obvious fault with that frame of logic.

No, you were called a fanboy for immediately taking an aggressively defensive stance against an innocuous comment: "the game doesn't play better on the Wii U, but since there aren't that many games out for the Switch yet there's no real reason to buy one yet."

Well...that's true, and you can't really argue against that: there are indeed few games currently out on the Switch. You're screaming for people to have patience, yet you're (apparently) demanding that people go out and buy a Switch immediately. Why can't they have patience in buying a Switch until more games come out?

You later bring up "Well the XBox One and PS4 had crappy launches too!" Yeah...and while there was certainly an early rush to buy them at launch - as there is with all consoles, including the Switch - many consumers preferred to wait until there was a decent library of games to play on those systems before actually buying them...just as Yahtzee is advocating to do with the Switch.

So...why is it that you're so pissed off about people not rushing out to immediately buy a Switch? The only faulty logic I've seen in this comment section is your own: condemning everyone for being so impatient that they can't wait a couple months for more games to come out...while at the same time implying that everyone should go out and buy a Switch right now (since the basis of your stance requires that everyone either already has a Switch and thus should be waiting for more games to come to it or that they should pick one up soon and then be patient for more games to come out).

In short: people that don't have a Switch yet but intend to get one - which would be the only people you're arguing with in the first place - already are effectively waiting for more games to come out, displaying the very patience that you're saying they lack. And that is why you were labeled a fanboy: you apparently came in here specifically looking to get irritated by a comment and latched onto the first one you could find...even though all the accusations you hurled at it were completely pointless. :^)

It's a little dark soulsy, a little skyrimy, the difference being a that I like more than both of those games. Play it, it's great.

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:
Um did I ever say they didn't have problems? NOOOOOOOOOO, you just assumed I did.

You are nuts, I was never asking for Nintendo to do any such thing. PS4 and XB1 had plenty of good exclusive titles, their launch line-up was far better then Nintendo.

Gamecube did sell well actually, it certainly was not a failure like the Wii U, it just wasn't as big as the PS2 was that gen.

Not everyone plays games on PC, don't assume that they do.

You mean like how you assume everyone wants another GameCube? Double standards much?

And no they did not. They had forgettable garbage. PS4 had to wait until Infamous Second Son and that was average and forgettable. And I'm still waiting for XBone to give me one good exclusive that isn't a compilation disk.

You're the only one I see with double-standards here.

They did not have "forgettable garbage" just cause you say so, now repeat after me- "my opinions are NOT indisputable facts".

PS4 also has Killzone, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Bloodborne, Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0, Until Dawn and Horizon Zero Dawn.

Xbox has good exclusives-Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2, Gears 4, Dead Rising 3 and 4, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Halo 5 and Re-Core.

Except in this case they ARE actual fact and they ARE forgettable garbage. No one but graphics whores cared about Ryse, Knack ended up being terrible, I doubt the sequel will be any better considering modern Sony's track record, and I can't remember anything about the other launch titles at all. That's how little of an impact these two companies left with their new consoles.

As for everything you listed: Killzone is another "me too" FPS trying to capitalize on the same crowd as Gears and HALO and quite frankly can go fuck itself, Uncharted has never been anything but the video game equivalent of a big budget Hollywood movie and people are only sold on it by spectacle alone. You actually stop and analyze that franchise and you'll see just how it does very little right.

Ratchet and Clank is an insult to the very franchise I bought Sony consoles for in the first place! No one asked for a damn reboot of the series, no one asked for it to also be a tie-in to a shitty movie that was cheaply handled by Sony as evidenced by the fact that they let the hack who directed Dylan Dog direct it as a result, and everything about it says "cynical cashgrab." As a long time R&C fan myself I CANNOT in good consciousness support this game and everything it stands for.

Gravity Rush 2 lost me the minute I heard there were forced stealth sections because they don't belong in this series. I don't care for Yakuza 0 because the series bores me and you have some nerve calling Until Dawn a game to begin with! Nothing that runs on the QuanticDreams school of game design can ever be called a game.

So yeah that just leaves Horizon and Bloodborne as the only things worth getting a PS4 for.

And as for the Xbone:

Sunset Overdrive turned out to be too obnoxious to be worth it judging from the Let's Play I watched of it. HALO wore out its welcome years ago, Gears can bite me, Quantum Break I've heard terrible things about from my circle of friends, Kilelr Instinct and Re-Core I can get on PC which defeats the purpose, and again you invalidate your claims by listing the worst Dead Rising game ever as an example of a "good exclusive." Dead Rising 4 is an insult to the series, even Yahtzee pointed out why.

So no, the only real reason for me to get an XBone is for Rare Replay. That's not enough to justify a purchase.

Throw in the fact that both consoles lack backwards compatibility, (unless you want to count that lame excuse of badly implemented BC the XBone has, I don't) and I am not convinced it's worth $400-$500 to buy any of these consoles trying to be PCs and that the PS4 only sells by pandering and manipulating the consumer.

And take notice how many of the those games you listed have realistic graphics or are in realistic settings? Yeah because that's what I want my video games to be: far more grounded in reality and not explore more creative and unique areas of art direction and game design and thus be completely unimmersive. I play games to escape reality after a hard day's work, not be reminded of it. If all people are going to use this hardware and graphics engines for is dull realistic visuals, bland character designs and shooters then that proves modern gamers and developers have absolutely no imagination.

I'll take Nintendo's bullshit if this how the competition is going to treat me. Especially Sony. I didn't buy a PS2 and a PS3 just for them to be a pandering company that lets mediocrity pass by and Microsoft lost my trust long ago.

darkrage6:

TheScorpion:
Wow, I'm shocked Yahtzee wasn't as negative about this as I thought considering its a Nintendo game.

Though Yahtzee was recommending the WiiU version, I'm still debating on whether or not to get this now on the WiiU(despite it's declining FPS and my lack of attention towards it despite having a big backlog for it) or wait until like my birthday to get this on the Switch alongside this and maybe Super Mario Oddysey. Just hope the Switch won't crash and burn by that time of November though.

EDIT: Funny thing is that I was expecting Yahtzee to target Horizon Zero Dawn first but I guess that one might be next week. I'm mainly curious if that games supposed feminism controversy is meant to cover up that the game isn't very good or not.

It's a total non-troversy and it's not meant to "cover up" anything, such a claim is completely asinine considering that the game received very positive reviews.

Well, that's according to mainstream critics which give positive reviews to almost any mainstream title. Do you really think Yahtzee is going to think the same as them?

demoman_chaos:
Honestly, I give the Switch 6 months before everyone gets utterly bored with the shiny new toy, realizes it is just another load of shit dumped out of the ass of an archaic backwoods hermit who seemingly despises its customers with the fervor only matched by its hatred of emulators (despite them selling downloaded ROMs on their storefront, no I'm not joking: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-18-did-nintendo-download-a-mario-rom-and-sell-it-back-to-us ). After about 6 months the hype will die and everyone will go back to their PS4/XB3/PC Master Race and only ocassionally fire up the Switch when they want to play Mario 64/DS Again, Zelda OoT Returns, Metroid Another One, or Smash Bros Some More while the rest of the Switch library gets clogged to fucking hell with shovelware (most of which will be little more than empty "tech demos" of the gimmick controls released several years after the console).

The Wii was the same, the Wii U was the same, and the Switch will be the same. An outdated brick that doesn't actually seem anymore powerful than the PSVita.

That's how I am with the Wii U. Only ever turn it on when I want to play Monster Hunter.

Sounds interesting, I'll probably buy the Wii U version when the price comes down because I'll be damned if I'm paying 80 fucking dollars.

Calamity Ganon made me think of Calamity Jane too.

I have to be honest, as much as I'm enjoying Zelda I was kind of hoping he'd shit all over it. Purely for entertainment purposes. I'm a wee bit disappointed.

Samael Barghest:
I think Yahtzee is the first critic to say buy it on the Wii U. Everyone is saying to buy it on the Switch.

It runs perfectly fine on the WiiU, so if you already have one and aren't looking to buy a Switch, then get it on the WiiU. I've also heard that in docked mode on the Switch it runs worse than the WiiU, because the Switch isn't actually meant to be a console, it's a mobile gaming device.

That being said, it runs at 30FPS on both, and it does have framerate drops on both systems. They're noticeable, but I don't think they detract from the game that much. I'm really flabbergasted, though, that a console released in 2017 will have FPS drops running at 30FPS on a game that was made for it's predecessor. Breath of the Wild isn't even a next-gen game, it's been a WiiU game since 2014, and it plays fine on the WiiU aside from some framerate issues; I can't even begin to fathom why the Switch should have issues with it. But hey... it's Nintendo. They make great games, but I'm afraid they've forgotten how to make game systems.

The comment about getting it on WiiU seemed to have more to do with the fact that so far the Switch so far has precisely one good game to its name (namely Zelda), while the WiiU has a decent library. In other words, the standard "new consoles suck" jab with the "no backwards compatibility sucks" left hook.

The Ubisoft comparison was pretty obvious, given that it's an open world game with towers, but the comment about the game feeling soulless (or something to that effect) compared to WW seems really silly. NPCs and especially enemies have more personality than in any of the previous games (WW included). I don't see how Ganon being more of a natural disaster to avert rather than a villain to defeat suddenly negates all of that, or how Ganon being portrayed in such a fashion is even inherently bad in the first place.

You're not going to review the other Switch games?

Yeah, that's not any less funny when typed out.

Hang on. Was that an actual positive review? I think it was - albeit grudgingly given.

This game is beautiful. One of the best Zelda games in a while...

LordTerminal:
And take notice how many of the those games you listed have realistic graphics or are in realistic settings? Yeah because that's what I want my video games to be: far more grounded in reality and not explore more creative and unique areas of art direction and game design and thus be completely unimmersive. I play games to escape reality after a hard day's work, not be reminded of it. If all people are going to use this hardware and graphics engines for is dull realistic visuals, bland character designs and shooters then that proves modern gamers and developers have absolutely no imagination.

I've not followed your posts in this thread, btw, but you do concede what I quoted is just entirely subjective, right? That no one can possibly follow up an 'I play games to/because---' statement with an accusation of design bias equating to 'proving' something about modern gamers and devs?

You like colour and fun and whatever else Nintendo provide, I like me some [affected] realism and grit. Both are escapist, both are equal in a spectrum of art/entertainment.

Oh, and regarding what may be immersive or "unimmersive": realism and non-realism are objective states (a tree either looks like a real tree, or it does not), immersion is subjective irrespective of a game's style, e.g. someone can be immersed - or have their immersion broken - in a realistic game as well as a heavily stylised one, depending on taste and design preferences.

ProfMcStevie:
Combat mechanically is very basic, music doesn't always provide an atmosphere to the area, you can't detail ANY progress on the map manually so its the vision towers or bust (locations of things aren't added but I can't even run off in a random direction and jot out the map from my random wandering) and the climbing can get very tedious be it the rain making you have to stop or just the general fact taking it slow and steady is the stamina appropriate decision, forcing just holding UP for a lot of it. Oh and frame-rate drops, I don't care if they are few or far between there shouldn't be ANY in a game that was delayed for years to be made and ported to the switch. Least give me some graphical tweaking options to have more control over it.

I've been using the stamps on the main map to mark locations where I don't have tower sight. You get 100 of them on the main map so it's not that bad. I only really mark gem locations and places with easy to pick up half decent weapons (in case I need to build my arsenal from scratch) . I do wish I could label them though.

-Dragmire-:

ProfMcStevie:
Combat mechanically is very basic, music doesn't always provide an atmosphere to the area, you can't detail ANY progress on the map manually so its the vision towers or bust (locations of things aren't added but I can't even run off in a random direction and jot out the map from my random wandering) and the climbing can get very tedious be it the rain making you have to stop or just the general fact taking it slow and steady is the stamina appropriate decision, forcing just holding UP for a lot of it. Oh and frame-rate drops, I don't care if they are few or far between there shouldn't be ANY in a game that was delayed for years to be made and ported to the switch. Least give me some graphical tweaking options to have more control over it.

I've been using the stamps on the main map to mark locations where I don't have tower sight. You get 100 of them on the main map so it's not that bad. I only really mark gem locations and places with easy to pick up half decent weapons (in case I need to build my arsenal from scratch) . I do wish I could label them though.

I'm cool with the scribbling on a map concept even if it is just stamps and stuff, reminds me of the fun of doodling on the DS Zelda games dungeon maps. I DESPISE that absolutely no information is displayed on the map of somewhere I've been, even Assassins Creed and all it towery goodness let you map slow but eventual progress on maps by just running around the area. At the LEAST I wanna scour the edges of the land just to get that stuff filled in.

The tower to get full area vision (though it doesn't add anything to it, just normal geographical data) is a HUGE misstep for BOTW, it coulda been a far more exploratory game if the towers only purpose was a kickass view and a great glide point, hell maybe throw some sick treasures at the top. It's a huge ass pillar its gonna naturally want to be climbed by the player regardless of use.

I like all the "towers" talk in the Ubisoft segment. Make me chuckle.

Apparently the connection issues are because they put the left controller's antenna right next to a metal box that's interfering with the signal. So I guess if one has some DIY electronics skills it wouldn't be too hard to fix, but it's a really stupid oversight.

Samael Barghest:
That's how I am with the Wii U. Only ever turn it on when I want to play Monster Hunter.

It is how I was with the Wii. As soon as I got a PS3 that thing existed only to play Smash Bros and very rarely Sonic Adventure 2 on. The Wii U looked like it was exactly the same and the Switch looks like it will be exactly the same. The GC had a few more games worth playing, but it too was regulated to being the Smash Bros box.

Real talk, why the hell haven't they put a Monster Hunter game on a console that isn't either portable (because a game where missions take 30-60 minutes to complete is perfect for portable consoles, he lies) or a load of poo (the Wii and Wii U)? Why don't they put one on something with a bit of power so they can make the monsters in HD and have enough power left over to allow the world to be more than just a single section at a time while also allowing 8 or more hunters (if they want) to join in the fray and do so over a much more stable and less annoying to mess with online service? Seriously, there is no reason to go with the shitty underpowered consoles with shitty controls and shitty online services that are in every way just plain shitty when compared to the alternatives. Imagine what crazy mods a PC Monster Hunter game could have.

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

You mean like how you assume everyone wants another GameCube? Double standards much?

And no they did not. They had forgettable garbage. PS4 had to wait until Infamous Second Son and that was average and forgettable. And I'm still waiting for XBone to give me one good exclusive that isn't a compilation disk.

You're the only one I see with double-standards here.

They did not have "forgettable garbage" just cause you say so, now repeat after me- "my opinions are NOT indisputable facts".

PS4 also has Killzone, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Bloodborne, Gravity Rush 2, Yakuza 0, Until Dawn and Horizon Zero Dawn.

Xbox has good exclusives-Sunset Overdrive, Halo Wars 2, Gears 4, Dead Rising 3 and 4, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Halo 5 and Re-Core.

Except in this case they ARE actual fact and they ARE forgettable garbage. No one but graphics whores cared about Ryse, Knack ended up being terrible, I doubt the sequel will be any better considering modern Sony's track record, and I can't remember anything about the other launch titles at all. That's how little of an impact these two companies left with their new consoles.

As for everything you listed: Killzone is another "me too" FPS trying to capitalize on the same crowd as Gears and HALO and quite frankly can go fuck itself, Uncharted has never been anything but the video game equivalent of a big budget Hollywood movie and people are only sold on it by spectacle alone. You actually stop and analyze that franchise and you'll see just how it does very little right.

Ratchet and Clank is an insult to the very franchise I bought Sony consoles for in the first place! No one asked for a damn reboot of the series, no one asked for it to also be a tie-in to a shitty movie that was cheaply handled by Sony as evidenced by the fact that they let the hack who directed Dylan Dog direct it as a result, and everything about it says "cynical cashgrab." As a long time R&C fan myself I CANNOT in good consciousness support this game and everything it stands for.

Gravity Rush 2 lost me the minute I heard there were forced stealth sections because they don't belong in this series. I don't care for Yakuza 0 because the series bores me and you have some nerve calling Until Dawn a game to begin with! Nothing that runs on the QuanticDreams school of game design can ever be called a game.

So yeah that just leaves Horizon and Bloodborne as the only things worth getting a PS4 for.

And as for the Xbone:

Sunset Overdrive turned out to be too obnoxious to be worth it judging from the Let's Play I watched of it. HALO wore out its welcome years ago, Gears can bite me, Quantum Break I've heard terrible things about from my circle of friends, Kilelr Instinct and Re-Core I can get on PC which defeats the purpose, and again you invalidate your claims by listing the worst Dead Rising game ever as an example of a "good exclusive." Dead Rising 4 is an insult to the series, even Yahtzee pointed out why.

So no, the only real reason for me to get an XBone is for Rare Replay. That's not enough to justify a purchase.

Throw in the fact that both consoles lack backwards compatibility, (unless you want to count that lame excuse of badly implemented BC the XBone has, I don't) and I am not convinced it's worth $400-$500 to buy any of these consoles trying to be PCs and that the PS4 only sells by pandering and manipulating the consumer.

And take notice how many of the those games you listed have realistic graphics or are in realistic settings? Yeah because that's what I want my video games to be: far more grounded in reality and not explore more creative and unique areas of art direction and game design and thus be completely unimmersive. I play games to escape reality after a hard day's work, not be reminded of it. If all people are going to use this hardware and graphics engines for is dull realistic visuals, bland character designs and shooters then that proves modern gamers and developers have absolutely no imagination.

I'll take Nintendo's bullshit if this how the competition is going to treat me. Especially Sony. I didn't buy a PS2 and a PS3 just for them to be a pandering company that lets mediocrity pass by and Microsoft lost my trust long ago.

Wow you just confirmed that you ARE a blatant Nintendo shill and fanboy, no it is NOT I repeat is NOT a fact that those games are" forgettable garbage" just because you think your opinion is the only correct one out there.

Xbox One DOES have backwards compatibility, you clearly did not do your research and no it is not "badly implemented" because you don't have to re-buy 360 games or anything like that.

Xbox One and PS4 are actually more like 300 dollars now.

No, not all the games i've listed have "realistic" graphics, now I know you're just being flat out lazy with your arguments, Graivty Rush, Ratchet and Clank and Sunset Overdrive certainly do not have "realistic" graphics style.

Also those games do not have "dull" visuals just cause you say so.

So if someone likes games you don't like, that automatically means they have no imagination? Wow that's some serious mental gymnastics right there, i've never seen someone dig themselves deeper to the extent that you are right now.

Nintendo is treating you FAR worse then Sony and Microsoft are, you're just too naive to realize it.

Sony does not let "mediocrity" pass by, that's just asinine, Microsoft i'll trust far more then Nintendo, at least Microsoft does not stupidity try and take down videos of people actually enjoying their games.

The notion that you cannot escape from reality by playing a game with realistic graphics is one of the dumbest fucking things i've ever heard, i've had hard days at work and I absolutely loved playing games like Far Cry 4 because of how over-the-top they were. So quit assuming everyone else thinks exactly the same way that you do.

Seriously stop being a troll and get lost, you contribute nothing to this site except whining anytime someone dares to criticize Nintendo, all you ever do is attack anyone who does not blindly worship at the altar of Nintendo and it's getting really fucking tiresome.

Killer Instinct and Re-Core might as well be Xbox One exclusive since they're only available on PC through the Windows Store, which many people absolutely hate and refuse to buy from.

Zelda can bite me and go fuck itself.

Until Dawn is a game, you have some nerve saying it is not a game just cause it's not your style.

Ratchet and Clank is not an "insult" that's just stupid beyond words, the movie was actually good.

Interesting how you haven't actually played most of the games yourself, you're just saying "my friends said it was bad", so you really can't judge them without playing them yourself.

DR3 and 4 are not "insults" just cause you say so, QD's games are games, deal with it.

That has to be hands down the most ignorant post i've ever seen on the internet, congradulations!

TheScorpion:

darkrage6:

TheScorpion:
Wow, I'm shocked Yahtzee wasn't as negative about this as I thought considering its a Nintendo game.

Though Yahtzee was recommending the WiiU version, I'm still debating on whether or not to get this now on the WiiU(despite it's declining FPS and my lack of attention towards it despite having a big backlog for it) or wait until like my birthday to get this on the Switch alongside this and maybe Super Mario Oddysey. Just hope the Switch won't crash and burn by that time of November though.

EDIT: Funny thing is that I was expecting Yahtzee to target Horizon Zero Dawn first but I guess that one might be next week. I'm mainly curious if that games supposed feminism controversy is meant to cover up that the game isn't very good or not.

It's a total non-troversy and it's not meant to "cover up" anything, such a claim is completely asinine considering that the game received very positive reviews.

Well, that's according to mainstream critics which give positive reviews to almost any mainstream title. Do you really think Yahtzee is going to think the same as them?

Um did I ever say that he would? NOOOOOOO

darkrage6:

TheScorpion:

darkrage6:
It's a total non-troversy and it's not meant to "cover up" anything, such a claim is completely asinine considering that the game received very positive reviews.

Well, that's according to mainstream critics which give positive reviews to almost any mainstream title. Do you really think Yahtzee is going to think the same as them?

Um did I ever say that he would? NOOOOOOO

EXACTLY! Even if Yahtzee is negative 90% of the time, You gotta admire his brutal honesty with the games flaws that most critics I feel neglect.

darkrage6:

Ratchet and Clank is not an "insult" that's just stupid beyond words, the movie was actually good.

You call ME a shill when you defend that junk? How much is Sony paying you? Yeah you just invalidated everything you said in my eyes with that.

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:

Ratchet and Clank is not an "insult" that's just stupid beyond words, the movie was actually good.

You call ME a shill when you defend that junk? How much is Sony paying you? Yeah you just invalidated everything you said in my eyes with that.

Wow you're such a massive hypocrite, me liking a Sony game makes me a shill but you blindly defending Nintendo no matter does not make you a shill? I did not "completely invalidate" anything, but you sure as fuck did. Again, a game is not "junk" just cause you don't like it, though i'm sure that's a very difficult concept for you to understand.

You are completely insane, you're exactly the kind of fanboy Yahtzee made fun of in this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv04aKBhZ9U

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:

Ratchet and Clank is not an "insult" that's just stupid beyond words, the movie was actually good.

You call ME a shill when you defend that junk? How much is Sony paying you? Yeah you just invalidated everything you said in my eyes with that.

Wow you're such a massive hypocrite, me liking a Sony game makes me a shill but you blindly defending Nintendo no matter does not make you a shill? I did not "completely invalidate" anything, but you sure as fuck did. Again, a game is not "junk" just cause you don't like it, though i'm sure that's a very difficult concept for you to understand.

You are completely insane, you're exactly the kind of fanboy Yahtzee made fun of in this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv04aKBhZ9U

It's not just me who doesn't like it. It's universally disliked by everyone I've talked to. And why shouldn't they hate it? It's directed by a hack. If this is how Sony is going to treat its properties then I'm not going to support them. All you do is show me just how simple minded and hypocritical Sony's fanbase are. Nintendo changes a franchise for the worse, ex: Metroid, everyone is ready to never forgive them or jump to ridiculous conclusions. But Sony changes a franchise for the worse, ex: God of War, everyone just lets them do their thing and claps like trained seals.

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:

LordTerminal:

You call ME a shill when you defend that junk? How much is Sony paying you? Yeah you just invalidated everything you said in my eyes with that.

Wow you're such a massive hypocrite, me liking a Sony game makes me a shill but you blindly defending Nintendo no matter does not make you a shill? I did not "completely invalidate" anything, but you sure as fuck did. Again, a game is not "junk" just cause you don't like it, though i'm sure that's a very difficult concept for you to understand.

You are completely insane, you're exactly the kind of fanboy Yahtzee made fun of in this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv04aKBhZ9U

It's not just me who doesn't like it. It's universally disliked by everyone I've talked to. And why shouldn't they hate it? It's directed by a hack. If this is how Sony is going to treat its properties then I'm not going to support them. All you do is show me just how simple minded and hypocritical Sony's fanbase are. Nintendo changes a franchise for the worse, ex: Metroid, everyone is ready to never forgive them or jump to ridiculous conclusions. But Sony changes a franchise for the worse, ex: God of War, everyone just lets them do their thing and claps like trained seals.

Wait, are you from the future?😱

Last time I checked, all God of War games released up until now were pretty much on-formula, all of them were well received by critics and fans, so you can't be talking about those games, so I'm just going to assume that you are talking about the new God of War set in Norse mythology. It's a bit quick to say that they are changing the franchise for the worse if the game hasn't been released yet and people haven't been able to play it yet, isn't it?

I'm assuming that with Nintendo changing Metroid for the worse, you are talking about Federation Force, a game which is already out, people have played and people have found lacking.

Mind you, I'm making assumptions here, if my assumptions were wrong, would you mind giving examples of both Nintendo and Sony changing said franchises for the worse? So that people can properly respond to what you are saying.

bluegate:

LordTerminal:

darkrage6:
Wow you're such a massive hypocrite, me liking a Sony game makes me a shill but you blindly defending Nintendo no matter does not make you a shill? I did not "completely invalidate" anything, but you sure as fuck did. Again, a game is not "junk" just cause you don't like it, though i'm sure that's a very difficult concept for you to understand.

You are completely insane, you're exactly the kind of fanboy Yahtzee made fun of in this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv04aKBhZ9U

It's not just me who doesn't like it. It's universally disliked by everyone I've talked to. And why shouldn't they hate it? It's directed by a hack. If this is how Sony is going to treat its properties then I'm not going to support them. All you do is show me just how simple minded and hypocritical Sony's fanbase are. Nintendo changes a franchise for the worse, ex: Metroid, everyone is ready to never forgive them or jump to ridiculous conclusions. But Sony changes a franchise for the worse, ex: God of War, everyone just lets them do their thing and claps like trained seals.

Wait, are you from the future?😱

Last time I checked, all God of War games released up until now were pretty much on-formula, all of them were well received by critics and fans, so you can't be talking about those games, so I'm just going to assume that you are talking about the new God of War set in Norse mythology. It's a bit quick to say that they are changing the franchise for the worse if the game hasn't been released yet and people haven't been able to play it yet, isn't it?

I'm assuming that with Nintendo changing Metroid for the worse, you are talking about Federation Force, a game which is already out, people have played and people have found lacking.

Mind you, I'm making assumptions here, if my assumptions were wrong, would you mind giving examples of both Nintendo and Sony changing said franchises for the worse? So that people can properly respond to what you are saying.

Were you and I watching the same gameplay demo at E3 last year? You can tell by the combat that it's trying so hard to rebrand the franchise as a Witcher clone. I can already tell you right now that it is going to suck but you're all going to love it anyway because it has God of War slapped on it. I've seen this before.

Also, how am I to take that comment about people saying Federation Force is lacking seriously when everyone has hated it since day 1? For all I know, you're all just saying that simply because it's not the Metroid you wanted.

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