Neogaf Mod Amir0x busted for child porn.

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http://www.poconorecord.com/news/20170628/tobyhanna-man-charged-in-child-porn-case

Yep thats right! Amir0x the loudest,most self rightous, pedophile hating (oops hehe)mod on neogaf , just got busted for having naked 4 year old on his PC by the FBI. Neogaf is in something of damage control now deleting his profile and trying to get rid of his past forum post.

Okay?

Perhaps this is just because I usually only read NeoGAF when other people link to it, but who is this guy supposed to be, and why does it warrant making a thread?

I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

shrekfan246:
Okay?

Perhaps this is just because I usually only read NeoGAF when other people link to it, but who is this guy supposed to be, and why does it warrant making a thread?

That was my first reaction as well.

Who is this guy and why should I care, especially prior to this?

And I never read NeoGaf forums.

Can't be! He was anti-Gamergate and as we all know, everyone who was pro Gamergate was literally worse than a Nazi, and all the noble Knights against those Nazis were shining exemplars of nobility, Social Justice, and equality.

Absolutely no way someone anti-Gamergate would be a disgusting hypocrite

Silentpony:
Snippero

Ah, I see, this is another petty grudge thread in the long line of them that have recently been popping up because people are desperately trying to revive that tire fire.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Didn't he say that people who played fanservice games like Senran Kagura were pedophiles? I know a mod on there said that. Glass houses either way...

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Snippero

Ah, I see, this is another petty grudge thread in the long line of them that have recently been popping up because people are desperately trying to revive that tire fire.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You call it a grudge, I call it vindication

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Silentpony:

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Snippero

Ah, I see, this is another petty grudge thread in the long line of them that have recently been popping up because people are desperately trying to revive that tire fire.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You call it a grudge, I call it vindication

"One of those people is bad! This proves that they're all wrong about us, and we're right about all of them!"

That's the takeaway I'm seeing here.

The Rogue Wolf:

Silentpony:

shrekfan246:

Ah, I see, this is another petty grudge thread in the long line of them that have recently been popping up because people are desperately trying to revive that tire fire.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You call it a grudge, I call it vindication

"One of those people is bad! This proves that they're all wrong about us, and we're right about all of them!"

That's the takeaway I'm seeing here.

I'd put it more like 'oh look, another one has committed sex crimes. Jeez, there sure are a lot of male SJWs who are in to kinky stuff, huh? I wonder if its systemic...'

There is great irony in so many of the white knights who screamed bloody murder at Gamergate being so disgustingly anti-woman, and sexist, and horrible, and blah blah blah, and it turns out those same guys are rapists, child molesters, and abusers.
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

Silentpony:
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement". How many people do you actually think know who this mod dude even is?

But hey, if you want to try insinuating stuff, how about we take a nice long look at Milo Yiabababolopolous again, eh? Jeez, there sure are a lot of alt-righters who are into some really kinky stuff, huh? I wonder if it's systemic... fuck, and that's ignoring how practically every talking head that Gators latched onto turned out to be some blowhard who thinks that women, gay people, and trans people don't deserve rights.

EDIT: For fuck's sake, why am I even bothering. Nope, I'm stepping out. Don't bother replying, I'm not going to respond to anything else in this thread.

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement". How many people do you actually think know who this mod dude even is?

But hey, if you want to try insinuating stuff, how about we take a nice long look at Milo Yiabababolopolous again, eh? Jeez, there sure are a lot of alt-righters who are into some really kinky stuff, huh? I wonder if it's systemic... fuck, and that's ignoring how practically every talking head that Gators latched onto turned out to be some blowhard who thinks that women, gay people, and trans people don't deserve rights.

Actually there probably is something systemically wrong with alt-right people. Kinda' like how GOP congressmen who hate gays turn out to be self-hating gays?
And yeah, Milo is really fucked up. Said it at the time too. But I don't recall Boogie or Baldwin ever saying they hated trans people. Maybe I missed it? Pretty sure Mercedes Carrera isn't anti-woman, but who knows?

And I knew who he was. Most people who followed GG know, or at least knew, who he was.

Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused. There are enough of them around that you will have heard of some of them.

Having said that, I dont know this guy or neoguff.

Heh. Not all that surprising.

But, then, I'd say the same if it were somebody from the chans, reddit, youtube, tumblr, msm...etc. etc.

It's just not shocking or new anymore. Kinda like terrorism. Just another thing that happens.

Silentpony:
Snip.

That's kinda reaching, honestly.

Individuals, on any side of any debate or what have you, come for their own reasons, be it to allay personal guilt or because they genuinely believe in the cause...and everything in between.

The same can be said for some folks on "our" side.

Point being: some people are just dicks.

shrekfan246:
... fuck, and that's ignoring how practically every talking head that Gators latched onto turned out to be some blowhard who thinks that women, gay people, and trans people don't deserve rights.

...ok, what?

Who?

It took 5 posts. Nice.

OT...yeah...reading the article it seems he had a bunch of pics of naked kids on the beach that he downloaded. Just goes to show, some people download dodgy shit, and some of those people might have jobs vaguely related to videogames. Really makes you think doesn't it? Or some other bullshit platitude. Whatever you want really. Bacon?

Zykon TheLich:
It took 5 posts. Nice.

OT...yeah...reading the article it seems he had a bunch of pics of naked kids on the beach that he downloaded. Just goes to show, some people download dodgy shit, and some of those people might have jobs vaguely related to videogames. Really makes you think doesn't it? Or some other bullshit platitude. Whatever you want really. Bacon?

Naked kids on the beach? How is that pornographic?

bjj hero:
Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused.

Um, how are kids going nude at the beach being hurt and abused?

Casual Shinji:

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

That makes me wonder what would happen if a preadolescent took pornographic photos and videos of himself and then fapped to them in adulthood. Would he go to prison?

Ezekiel:
Naked kids on the beach? How is that pornographic?

It isn't to most people, but when you go and download a bunch of pictures of naked children on the beach and tell the cops that they are an outlet for your urges, don't expect people to think it was the urge to check for quality lighting and composition in the photographs.

The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

Zykon TheLich:

Ezekiel:
Naked kids on the beach? How is that pornographic?

It isn't to most people, but when you go and download a bunch of pictures of naked children on the beach and tell the cops that they are an outlet for your urges, don't expect people to think it was the urge to check for quality lighting and composition in the photographs.

What a retard. Seems like something that should be pretty simple to deny. Just tell them it's a curiosity, like watching a documentary. Though, I doubt the jury would care. I still think it's BS that Detective Webbe says he had 53 child porn images and a child porn video. From what the article writes, it's not porn. The video of the girl dancing "suggestively" is questionable, but I'd have to see it to judge.

Ezekiel:

Zykon TheLich:
It took 5 posts. Nice.

OT...yeah...reading the article it seems he had a bunch of pics of naked kids on the beach that he downloaded. Just goes to show, some people download dodgy shit, and some of those people might have jobs vaguely related to videogames. Really makes you think doesn't it? Or some other bullshit platitude. Whatever you want really. Bacon?

Naked kids on the beach? How is that pornographic?

bjj hero:
Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused.

Um, how are kids going nude at the beach being hurt and abused?

Casual Shinji:

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

That makes me wonder what would happen if a preadolescent took pornographic photos and videos of himself and then fapped to them in adulthood. Would he go to prison?

Pornography laws in general are pretty poorly conceived, and child porn even moreso.

It tends to come down to a judge or DA subjectively saying "I know pornography when I see it."

Dirty Hipsters:

Pornography laws in general are pretty poorly conceived, and child porn even moreso.

It tends to come down to a judge or DA subjectively saying "I know pornography when I see it."

Which is absurd. I can assure you that most of the porn I enjoy isn't even recognizable as porn to anyone without my weird fetishes.

Silentpony:
Can't be! He was anti-Gamergate and as we all know, everyone who was pro Gamergate was literally worse than a Nazi, and all the noble Knights against those Nazis were shining exemplars of nobility, Social Justice, and equality.

Absolutely no way someone anti-Gamergate would be a disgusting hypocrite

Wow, you really went there. Okay, buddy. Yes, because someone who doesn't care for GG fuckheads turns out to be a pedo that means EVERYONE whoever opposed GG asinine rhetoric and objectives is somehow a hypocrite. Get real.

As for Amir0x, well fuck that guy, I'm pretty sure I got banned by him for something stupid a while back. He's also a thief and a liar which is why he hasn't been a mod on NeoGAF for at least a year. Dude was caught editing other people's posts in order to win an argument, amongst other things. Still, the fact that his ass wasn't permabanned meanwhile other upstanding regular users have been (like Dennis) is the height of bullshit. I'm trying to see now if there has been a statement from Evilore or any other mods.

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

Honestly, it only ever comes up here, on youtube sometimes, and in random articles I read related to internet safety or whatever.

It's in those places 'cause people have a hard time letting go...and you couple that with it being brought up from time to time, then the ball of sadness just keeps rolling.

Hell. GG ended in like 2014-2015. I dunno how some folks are still so into it.

Evilore's (GAF owner) response, a full statement is still being prepared by the whole mod team:

Evilore:
Amir0x hasn't been a moderator here for the better part of a decade and has not had any association with the site other than as a regular member here since then. Most of the current moderators were not even around yet when Amir0x got kicked out, and this was a very long time ago and his real name was not on file. He was originally released after an ethics incident where someone called him out for making some posts arguing about some video game (IIRC), he claimed he didn't, and then went back and deleted the posts in question to try to save face, but not before it was all seen and he was sacked. There have also been troubling circumstances since then, also many years ago now, where he posted a GoFundMe for his sick mother to be able to afford at-home dialysis, and then afterwards claimed publicly to be relieved to have a break from financial burdens related to taking care of her that allowed for him to go on some recreational drug binge with his personal salary instead. He was disgraced for that as well, admitted fault, and reaffirmed that the GoFundMe dialysis funds went directly to his mom and that he did not pocket any of it, just indirectly benefited, which was still absolutely not something to be bragging about, and he claimed to go into rehab afterwards to address his drug problems. The rehab stuff is the main reason he wasn't permanently banned at the time.

The mod team just informed me of the circumstances re: this thread earlier today linking him to an arrest for some heinous stuff; as per standard policy here, the mod team doesn't let unconfirmed allegations and doxxing run wild for an internet witch hunt, whether someone is a member here or not, so the thread got deleted pending further confirmation. Looks like it's been confirmed to be him, however. Again, no one on the moderation team even knew his real name, so it was not something that could be confirmed immediately. His account has been permanently banned in response, but it looks like that'll be the least of his concerns.

That's all. No conspiracy. Thanks.

LostGryphon:

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

Honestly, it only ever comes up here, on youtube sometimes, and in random articles I read related to internet safety or whatever.

It's in those places 'cause people have a hard time letting go...and you couple that with it being brought up from time to time, then the ball of sadness just keeps rolling.

Hell. GG ended in like 2014-2015. I dunno how some folks are still so into it.

You may be correct about the outrage, the somewhat contained phenomenon that was dubbed "GG". It was only the response of one community to a blatantly obvious attack, only one metastatic growth that caused an itch which, in turn, required some scratching.

The underlying causes are still up and running, which is why the struggle is still ongoing.

Do you, or others, ever wonder why this once bustling forum turned into a ghost town? Do you ever wonder why discussion and discourse got replaced by deafening silence? Do you even think one side already "won"?

Our society is being weakened by selective, oftentimes fictional empowerment and alien ideologies that aim at little more than causing division. We cannot possibly move on before this clash of ideologies is resolved one way or another. See you on the other side.

Headdrivehardscrew:

LostGryphon:

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

Honestly, it only ever comes up here, on youtube sometimes, and in random articles I read related to internet safety or whatever.

It's in those places 'cause people have a hard time letting go...and you couple that with it being brought up from time to time, then the ball of sadness just keeps rolling.

Hell. GG ended in like 2014-2015. I dunno how some folks are still so into it.

You may be correct about the outrage, the somewhat contained phenomenon that was dubbed "GG". It was only the response of one community to a blatantly obvious attack, only one metastatic growth that caused an itch which, in turn, required some scratching.

The underlying causes are still up and running, which is why the struggle is still ongoing.

Do you, or others, ever wonder why this once bustling forum turned into a ghost town? Do you ever wonder why discussion and discourse got replaced by deafening silence? Do you even think one side already "won"?

Our society is being weakened by selective, oftentimes fictional empowerment and alien ideologies that aim at little more than causing division. We cannot possibly move on before this clash of ideologies is resolved one way or another. See you on the other side.

Well, okay then. I think you need to spend less time on the internet, my man.

My first reaction was confusion because I didn't know why I should care about some random person on Neogaf and their shitty ways, but now it's becoming clear as to real why to my inquiry.

Grudges man, you GG people should do hold them for silly reasons.

I long for the day when 'GG' means 'Game Grumps' and/or 'Good Game' in various forms of sarcasm.

One day.

Man
and people complain about the mods on this site
also I thought people stopped caring about GG years ago
evidently not

oRevanchisto:
Evilore's (GAF owner) response, a full statement is still being prepared by the whole mod team:

Evilore:
Amir0x hasn't been a moderator here for the better part of a decade and has not had any association with the site other than as a regular member here since then. Most of the current moderators were not even around yet when Amir0x got kicked out, and this was a very long time ago and his real name was not on file. He was originally released after an ethics incident where someone called him out for making some posts arguing about some video game (IIRC), he claimed he didn't, and then went back and deleted the posts in question to try to save face, but not before it was all seen and he was sacked. There have also been troubling circumstances since then, also many years ago now, where he posted a GoFundMe for his sick mother to be able to afford at-home dialysis, and then afterwards claimed publicly to be relieved to have a break from financial burdens related to taking care of her that allowed for him to go on some recreational drug binge with his personal salary instead. He was disgraced for that as well, admitted fault, and reaffirmed that the GoFundMe dialysis funds went directly to his mom and that he did not pocket any of it, just indirectly benefited, which was still absolutely not something to be bragging about, and he claimed to go into rehab afterwards to address his drug problems. The rehab stuff is the main reason he wasn't permanently banned at the time.

The mod team just informed me of the circumstances re: this thread earlier today linking him to an arrest for some heinous stuff; as per standard policy here, the mod team doesn't let unconfirmed allegations and doxxing run wild for an internet witch hunt, whether someone is a member here or not, so the thread got deleted pending further confirmation. Looks like it's been confirmed to be him, however. Again, no one on the moderation team even knew his real name, so it was not something that could be confirmed immediately. His account has been permanently banned in response, but it looks like that'll be the least of his concerns.

That's all. No conspiracy. Thanks.

So I don't post to NeoGAF, but how true is this? Because if it's true the guy hasn't been a mod in almost a decade, then why the fuck is the title calling him a NeoGAF mod? If I get arrested for something like a DUI, nobody is going to describe me by a volunteer position I held almost a decade ago.

Are we really so desperate in the internet oppression Olympics that a guy who was supposedly removed from a position years ago for violating the rules, is still framed as a mod so we can take a cheap shot against a website.

EternallyBored:

Are we really so desperate in the internet oppression Olympics that a guy who was supposedly removed from a position years ago for violating the rules, is still framed as a mod so we can take a cheap shot against a website.

What did you think "It's actually about integrity in games journalism" really meant? Actual stuff related to journalism? Or games?

Fiz_The_Toaster:
My first reaction was confusion because I didn't know why I should care about some random person on Neogaf and their shitty ways, but now it's becoming clear as to real why to my inquiry.

Grudges man, you GG people should do hold them for silly reasons.

I long for the day when 'GG' means 'Game Grumps' and/or 'Good Game' in various forms of sarcasm.

One day.

I went on a huge Game Grumps binge a while ago and re-aquired associating GG with them, which was nice.

Though that also means I get disappointed everytime I open a topic like this and see people talking about 'GG'. 'Oh man, I love those gu- oh, wait. Dammit, just get over that shit already, I want to talk about Dan!'.

Wrex Brogan:

Fiz_The_Toaster:
My first reaction was confusion because I didn't know why I should care about some random person on Neogaf and their shitty ways, but now it's becoming clear as to real why to my inquiry.

Grudges man, you GG people should do hold them for silly reasons.

I long for the day when 'GG' means 'Game Grumps' and/or 'Good Game' in various forms of sarcasm.

One day.

I went on a huge Game Grumps binge a while ago and re-aquired associating GG with them, which was nice.

Though that also means I get disappointed everytime I open a topic like this and see people talking about 'GG'. 'Oh man, I love those gu- oh, wait. Dammit, just get over that shit already, I want to talk about Dan!'.

For a while, I had to tell my brain that this wasn't Game Grumps, and it's about... something else. I honestly can't tell you anymore since the goal posts have moved a million times and I've lost track of everything.

Can't we all just get together and talk about how much sex we want to have with Dan? I mean, come on. His old man voice is just the best.

Fiz_The_Toaster:

Wrex Brogan:

Fiz_The_Toaster:
My first reaction was confusion because I didn't know why I should care about some random person on Neogaf and their shitty ways, but now it's becoming clear as to real why to my inquiry.

Grudges man, you GG people should do hold them for silly reasons.

I long for the day when 'GG' means 'Game Grumps' and/or 'Good Game' in various forms of sarcasm.

One day.

I went on a huge Game Grumps binge a while ago and re-aquired associating GG with them, which was nice.

Though that also means I get disappointed everytime I open a topic like this and see people talking about 'GG'. 'Oh man, I love those gu- oh, wait. Dammit, just get over that shit already, I want to talk about Dan!'.

For a while, I had to tell my brain that this wasn't Game Grumps, and it's about... something else. I honestly can't tell you anymore since the goal posts have moved a million times and I've lost track of everything.

Can't we all just get together and talk about how much sex we want to have with Dan? I mean, come on. His old man voice is just the best.

Fuck you, clearly Arin is the bigger catch.

jademunky:

EternallyBored:

Are we really so desperate in the internet oppression Olympics that a guy who was supposedly removed from a position years ago for violating the rules, is still framed as a mod so we can take a cheap shot against a website.

What did you think "It's actually about integrity in games journalism" really meant? Actual stuff related to journalism? Or games?

The weird part is that the owner of NeoGAF is apparently in complete agreement that the guy was kind of a scum bag even before this arrest. NeoGAF seems to be completely blameless here so why even bring them up? Considering the owner throws him under the bus at the first opportunity they obviously aren't trying to cover anything up, also why would a website cover for a volunteer mod that was fired for misconduct years ago, unless there is some further connection he had with the site beyond just being a poster there.

NeoGAF seems to have responded appropriately, they deleted topics that might have been doxxing or witch hunting to assess if the person arrested was actually the online poster they were accusing him of being, then when confirmed laid out the past connection with him that was terminated years ago, and even terminated his account on the site. That seems like pretty standard and ethical procedure, someone explain to me what they did wrong?

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